How are the Oakland Raiders 10.5 Point Dawgs?
by saint
on Dec 6, 2007 5:47 PM PST
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The word out of Green Bay is that Brett Favre will start and that Rodgers is OUT.
They had to go out and sign Craig Nall just so that Donald Driver wouldn't have to be the back-up QB.
Nall - "Hey Coach, Can you see any splinters?"
Coach - "Nah Craig, your head's in the way!"
You may not know Nall because he hasn't taken a snap in the NFL since 2004.
This does not bode well for the Packers. The way I see it, Favre is their franchise and they already have a playoff spot locked up. IF he is not at least 90%, I don't expect him to last more than two series.
That brings us to Craig Nall. Nall was signed on December 1st...That's right, DECEMBER 1st!!!
Sure, anything can happen in Lambeau on a snowy day, but I have to believe that this 10.5 point spread is easy pickings for any of you bettors in the Nation.
This is a game that we MAY win, and 10.5 is the biggest give away I have seen all year.
Go Raiders!!!
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I am very surprised the spread is so high
The Raiders could so easily have 9 wins by now, 8 for sure. It bodes well for next year with Russell at QB, and one more year under Kiffin.
by chinabob on
Dec 6, 2007 7:34 PM PST
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You're Kidding, Right?
Do you really think Favre will sit? He needs a 400 yard game just to get his arm back in shape. And the Raiders are the team to give it to him. You don't think the Packers can stop the run? Ask Adrian Peterson (the best back in the game) what he thinks. Why 10.5 pt spread? It's 7 degrees here. 14" of snow on the ground. It's Lambeau in December. You're a bunch of California Candy-asses. And most of all, the Packers are a better team.
Lastly, look at your team. Silver and Black Pride? Silver and Black Pride is on the South side of Chicago, not Oakland anymore. You have the worst run team in professional sports. Your senile, geezer owner is stuck in 1969. Fight the Power, Man! Get those cast-offs! Vertical offense! How's that going for ya? He fires anyone that might lead them to success (Chuckie)because they have to do it differently than he wants it done in order to win. Step into the next century old man.
Good luck Sunday, but take the Pack and the points.
by packfan on
Dec 7, 2007 7:42 AM PST
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So, you stop one back once:
Keep dreaming cheese boy.
If you didn't read your own coaches comments about the Raiders, here they are:
"We're worried about the Oakland Raiders. We had a chance to spend the day correcting things, self-scout wise. We're all about the Oakland Raiders right now. This will be a challenge for our football team. They're playing their best football of the year. To me, I view them very similar to where we were last year. That's what I told the team this morning. If you remember where we were at this time last year, we were 4-8, and were able to make a run at the end of the season. It was the foundation of what we've been able to build off of for this season. That's how we view this team coming in here. We need to be ready to go."
Believe you me, the 10.5 is a gimme. Your third highest scoring team in the League has forced teams to pass in the third and fourth quarter. Points will be at a premium with Brett Favre out there tarnishing his image by making a "Ripken-Like" courtesy start so that his streak won't be broken. Or is it just that 10% of Favre is better than 100% of that washed up scrub Craig Nall. I'm surprised you guys didn't give Bart Starr a call to see if he was available to take the 2nd snap of the game.
Here is how it will play out:
Farve takes the snap and dives to the ground letting the DE have an easy sack. Sound familiar cheese boy?
Then #4 will grasp his hand and leave to the raucous cheers of the Fondue Faithful.
The Raiders will rush for 150 yards and win 24-10.
by saint on
Dec 7, 2007 8:18 AM PST
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Hell, I hope Brett stays in
by Raybin on
Dec 7, 2007 9:33 AM PST
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I said it over in your diary and I'll say it here.
Hey, how'd that work out, anyway?
by Raybin on
Dec 7, 2007 9:37 AM PST
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Apparently you cannot read
I fully expect Favre to start, what other choice does GB have? If his arm is in fact bothering him I fully expect GB to run a lot, something that teams have been able to do against Oakland every other game, time will tell if they succeed.
Just to help you a bit with history on Gruden, he wanted to go to TB to be close to his parents, he wasn't fired. Or maybe you are one of those guys who believes everything you read in the papers, wait a minute there is a question whether you can read or not.
by chinabob on
Dec 7, 2007 4:49 PM PST
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NIce One CB:
At least he cannot read the signs on the wall that say, "Green Bay Should NOT be Favored By Ten".
Nowhere does it say that the Raiders will win...Or does it...hmmm?
24-10 RRRAAIIDDERRSS!!!!
by saint on
Dec 7, 2007 5:15 PM PST
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Reality Check
- You aint Atlanta. McClown aint Mike Vick.
- Read all the comments through the year. That's the same placating crap he says every week. It's not hard to "play the best football of the season" when you've been as pathetic as the Jokeland Faiders have been.
- No.5 rushing offense, oooo scary. Take a look at what they did to the #1 rushing offense. 34-0 asswhipping of the Vikings. Oh, by the way, the GBP out rushed them.
- As far as Ironman is concerned, he won't need to pass. You have the 30th ranked rush defense. Why would anyone pass? They don't have to.
by packfan on
Dec 7, 2007 2:11 PM PST
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Win or lose
If you choose to act like a classless Donkey fan, then I hope whatever happens on Sunday that you are back here on Monday morning posting about the game.
Honestly, we are not divisional rivals. Heck, we don't even see each other once every few years, so why all the aggression?
It just goes to show you that even your great fanbase has degenerate fans like yourself probably spending more time calling people on other boards out than having anything intellegent to say about your own team on your board.
BTW, if Almighty God came down and gave you the choice to whisk you and your life away from Wisconsin, and deposit you here in California, you would take it.
Like I said before, the Pack have so much to lose and the Raiders have so much to gain.
Me, I'm going to enjoy a grilled cheese sandwich.
by oaklandSMASH on
Dec 7, 2007 2:29 PM PST
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Win or Lose?
-Obidiah Howe
by saint on
Dec 7, 2007 5:19 PM PST
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Packman, Thanks For Showing Up:
Now allow me, if you will, to address your...for lack of a better word...Brashignorantarianism...For a minute OR two...
1. You aint Atlanta. McClown aint Mike Vick.
Fudge Packer-Fan - I knew Mike Vick, and believe me Josh McCown, YOU ARE NO MIKE VICK!!!
Josh McCown - Thank "Gawd", I would hate to be facing 3 years out of the League and losing the few millions I have managed to save!!!
Raider fan to said Packer Fan - And your point is that...Mike Vick single handedly beat the Packers and Josh McCown is not him?
I thought that there were many facets of the game...
A) Special Teams create field position and you saw what we did to Hester. Now THAT is a fact.
B) The Raiders are second in the League in INT's per pass attempt and your QB is the ALL-Time picks leader.
C) B added to the fact that IF the game is withing 2 scores you will be run over in the late third and fourth quarter.
2. Read all the comments through the year. That's the same placating crap he says every week. It's not hard to "play the best football of the season" when you've been as pathetic as the Jokeland Faiders have been.
That could be placated crap, BUT, it does not change the fact that your #1 is hurt and your #2 is out.
It also does NOT change the fact that he did see a lot of the 2006 Packers in the 2007 Raiders. It is a fact. The key here is that you ran the table your Divisional foes at the end of 2006 and the Raider's last two victories have set them up for a 2006-like Packers finish.
So 10.5 points is a bit over the top, imho.
3. No.5 rushing offense, oooo scary. Take a look at what they did to the #1 rushing offense. 34-0 asswhipping of the Vikings. Oh, by the way, the GBP out rushed them.
Okay, "Maroon", here is where you really show your...ahem...knowledge...
AP ran all over you guys in the first game and was averaging 4.1 yards a carry until he got hurt in the 2nd game.
The first game was close and the second was a GB blowout, so of course the Packers ran more in the second game!!! DUH!!!!
4. As far as Ironman is concerned, he won't need to pass. You have the 30th ranked rush defense. Why would anyone pass? They don't have to.
I Love #4, I really do...In Fact, the whole NFL does...BUT, he is hurt enough to make him ineffective...This week MAY be your first REAL glance at Grant...My grandmother could run draws out of the shotgun and average 4 yards a carry...IF #4 is hurt, the defense will pin their ears back and attack the run...Believe me...
This will round out the clean sweep of the AFC Worst. Take the Pack and the Points!!!!!!!!!!
Sweet, so, not ONLY can the Raiders run the AFC WEst, but we can take down the Pack IN the Snow and beat a team that the AFC West has wiffed on all year?
Thanks for stopping by, and I hope to see you on Monday...
by saint on
Dec 7, 2007 4:46 PM PST
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Reality Check Con't
So, you think they have a chance, huh? What kinds of hallucinogens do you mix with your face paint when you go to the Stinking Hole?
by packfan on
Dec 7, 2007 2:21 PM PST
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The only one who needs a defense is:
Here it is:
Once the O-Line started blocking Daunte and McCown both did better.
If you need a refresher, here is what he is capable of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_wfYAGosi4
How can you even try and put Al Davis down? Al Davis is the last remaining member of the original AFL. For a "fan" like you to even try and attack that man is sad and pathetic. he may be a relic in your "Hater" eyes, but who and what he is in the NFL is a living, walking, talking legend and I am proud that he is still alive and the managing general partner of the Raiders.
Love him or hate him, his team has been to the SUPER BOWL more recently than the Cheese Packers.
Lane is 4-8 with a team that was 2-14 last year. How is he terrible?
So, if your, "Wannabe Rome", smack is correct then he has cost us how many wins this year?
Which means that "Talent-wise" our team is better than 4-8?
And how exactly did you SHUT DOWN Adrian Peterson?
by saint on
Dec 7, 2007 4:17 PM PST
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Where to begin
With regards to young phenom Adrian Peterson, 45 yards through 3 quarters IS shutting him down. No points allowed is shutting them down.
Now a little humble pie. I did not realize McCown was the guy who beat the Vikings. Having grown up 10 miles from St.Paul (still in Wi), a Vikings loss is second only to a Packers win. Especially, a loss as demoralizing as that loss. He's offically off the board. I hope he plays 15 great games this year.
No. Chuckie got them to the Super Bowl INSPITE of the Geezer. Note their success before and after Chuckie.
With regards to the '06 Packer '07 Raider comparisons: When Ted Thompson came in in '05 he had a game plan to rebuild this team. Strong defense wins championship. Draft in volume(more picks over the last 2 drafts than any team). Build a strong defense (Walker, Woodson, Pickett, Hawk, Rouse, Harrell all picked up by Thompson). They've kept 11 starting d-linemen on the roster this year. Offense, put the ball in the hands of your best players (not Favre). They have 5 starting wide recievers. All specialize in RAC. Draft "football" guys. Guys who love to play and who work hard with good character. Jones/Jennings aren't 4.2 40 guys. They have great hands and they're football fast. They get yards after the catch. They've gone from one of the oldest teams in the NFL to the youngest. What's the Geezers plan to rebuild the Raiders? What is the systematic proof of a game plan?
With regards to the Packer/Falcon playoff game. It was FIVE YEARS AGO as of January. The GBP have 5 maybe 6 players on the team from that game. Move your thc encrusted brain into '07.
No, your not more talented than a 4-8 team. You are as talented as a 4-8. As evidenced by your record. So were the Packers last year at this time.
"BTW, if Almighty God came down and gave you the choice to whisk you and your life away from Wisconsin, and deposit you here in California, you would take it."
If God came down and did that I would assume I'd died and gone to hell. What does Ca. have that Wi. doesn't? High taxes? Nope got those here. Left wing flakes? You got Berkley we've got Madison (imagine Berkley soaked in beer). You've got Hollywood, San Fran and LA... 'nuf said. I lived in your northern most suburb, Portland Or. The natives were great. Unfortunately, they were out numbered by the immigrants from the south (Ca). Truely, some of the weirdest people I've ever met. Milwaukee and it suburb, Chicago, are comsopolitan. Virtually no traffic.
The fall back for every Californian I've ever talked to is the weather. I would gladly take a little cold and snow over mud slides, fires and earthquakes. You never read stories of people freezing to death here. Every year, it seems, there are stories of natural disasters killing people in Ca.
The one card you can play is being able to ride motorcycle 12 months a year there. It kills me having to put my bike away every year.
P.S.
I do this every week. Go to a site of the opposing team and stir things up. You are by far the most responsive, articulate and knowledgable (albeit wrong) fans in 12 games. Not one f-bomb laden rant (see any Lions page). Well done. Talk to you soon.
by packfan on
Dec 8, 2007 7:51 AM PST
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