Postgame Impressions and Takes: B-More Beats Us Again
Since "Fat Ass", as he's still known around these parts, Tony Siragusa, flopped on Rich Gannon, it seems that the Ravens have our number.
Today would prove to be no different, as the Raiders, who came to play for the second week in a row, made enough breakdowns against the Ravens to once again get Beat Down by B-Town.
Today it wasn't Shannon Sharpe who juked the safety and took a clinching score to the house, it was the fifth option on a passing play who went uncovered by Gibril Wilson and wasn't even noticed until Joe Flacco had 7 seconds to pass, that scored from 70 yards out.
You'd think that by this reaction I wouldn't have much "good: to say, but, that could not be further from the truth.
The Raiders came out and played conservatively on offense and took some chances on defense from the gate.
The offense was dry and unimaginitive until they ordered JaMarcus to throw the ball, and then they looked a little better. T
The defense was stout, yet could not get to Joe Flacco and allowed over 150 yards on the ground.
There is definitely not a member of this board that expected a win today, and I am sure that we all saw some positives.
- This team is playing for Tom Cable and that is nice to see. When Kiffin was fired I was a bit nervous about whether or not the players would see it as a sign that the season was being cashed in. That hasn't happened.
- DeAngelo Hall is having a fantastic season. After having a career worst day against the Broncos to start the season, DeAngelo has realized that he will actually see a ton of balls. He has adjusted to this and is getting better reads than the receivers on most balls that are thrown his way.
- Gibril Wilson has been a difference maker on our defense. When we signed him, I wondered if he'd be the Bob Sanders type that we needed. I doubt that anyone even cares how much money Al Davis gave HIM. He has brought multiple missing dimensions to our defense. He tackles hard and forces fumbles and both of those functions have been missing in Oakland from a safety for many years.
- Zach Miller is having the kind of season that will look better in a few years. He has been a constant protector in pass coverage and still manages to make a long catch every game.
- Chaz Schilens fought hard for his catches and yards today. It looks like last season's draft could have just been the 1st and 7th rounds. When the passing offense FINALLY finds a rhythm, Chaz will break out.
I do have to also point out the things that drove me crazy!!!
- I hated seeing Tom Cable waste the final seconds of the First Half. The Raiders should have had 35-40 seconds left on the clock and had the ball on their own 35. I would have liked to see the passing offense try and get into Janikowski FG Range.
- Jay Richardson had the worst game that I've seen him have in a long time. He missed a key tackle on the 97 yard drive that would have forced a punt from the Baltimore end zone.
- I have to give Morrison and Gibril a pass on their whiffs on Ray Rice because they definitely make those plays MUCH more often than not.
- The offensive line did a formidable job on most downs, but when they got blown up, it all happened at once. The Mario Henderson at Left Tackle Campaign may get a full bown wind in it's sails this week. we shall see.
Well, S&BP, what are your impressions and takes?
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If by stout you mean bad, then you're right when describing the defense.
Otherwise, you seem to have a limitless amount of kool-aid at home considering the Ravens went into the game averaging 17.5 points and hadn’t scored more that 28 points in a single contest.
Also, Raiders rank 26th in the leagure in total defense down (or up) from last year’s 25th ranking so I’m not sure how much Wilson has hda an effect (unless it’s negative).
by Bacon on Oct 26, 2008 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's like Lane knew something
when he wanted a new D-coordinator
by RaiderPete on Oct 26, 2008 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The result was no real surprise.
The manner in which we arrived at it, yeah. I was surprised to see our defense allow a young QB like Flacco a chance to find his rhythm. You need to put some pressure on him, force him into making a mistake or two.
Field position favored them big time, but I would have liked to see the Raiders think pass from the start. Just give up on the run completely, and go for broke. Especially with McFadden on the bench.
Clock management has long been an issue for this team, and I agree that an opportunity was lost at the end of the first half. You need to treat your scoring chances- especially against Baltimore, on the road- for what they are: gold. A field-goal at the half does two things: 1) gives you a little momentum heading to the break, and 2) changes your strategy if you do happen to get closer, which we did. Not saying we would have made a field goal, but you at least have to give the offense a shot to get within Jano’s range.
I'm here to talk about the past.
by 67MARQUEZ on Oct 26, 2008 4:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Some Positives
-JaMarcus and Schilens got some much needed experience against a great defensive team. The Ravens completely took away our strength (running the ball) but they managed to find each other for big gains. Add in Miller and we can expect big things from the Raiders in the future.
-The Raiders played better in the second half. We actually made adjustments at the half. I credit the coaching staff for this one. Too many times this year we would get up in games and go into the second half and the other team makes their adjustments and outplays us. They realized that we couldn’t run the ball and opened up the playbook a little and let JaMarcus play.
-Our penalties where down. I credit this also to the coaching staff. This was the first time the team with the big play killing penalties weren’t the Raiders. They were actually well disciplined.
-We have a very young team. We can be great. Get rid of the dead weight (Walker, Lelie and Curry) and let’s build around these young players. What we need is consistency at the head coach position so we can build around the group we have.
by Raider76 on Oct 26, 2008 6:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
A very disappointing beat down
There were very few good things that happened today, Russell in the 2nd half made some throws that were impressive, the special teams were a disaster. I guess I have to admit finally that the defense is just not very good, we heap all sorts of praise on our linebackers but after watching Lewis and Suggs I realize just how average our linebackers are.
Teams can run at will on the Raiders and that has been the case for quite a few seasons now.
There is only one caveat that I can make and that is that a West coast team traveling East has to play at the equivalent of 10 a.m. in the morning, a significant disadvantage to a West Coast team. I have noticed several times this year that a West Coast team playing in the East gets thrashed in the first half and makes comebacks in the 2nd which leads me to believe that the starting time has something to do with it. But, all Raiders teams past and present have had that same situation, the only difference being former teams won despite that.
The only thing I took out of this game even remotely promising was that Russell looks like he will be very good some day, just hope I live long enough to see it.
by Laoren on Oct 26, 2008 8:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tough Loss
Coming east is tough for you west coast teams, but you did well in Buffalo, almost coming away with a victory. What the Ravens do when they fly west is to go early and adjust to the time difference before they leave Baltimore. That makes it easier to deal with the jet lag issue.
As far as the game, there was no comparison between defenses. I don’t get the positive comments about your CB’s, as these were the Ravens you were playing against and we still made the plays with our relatively average at best offense, including a blown coverage TD pass. Special Teams were horrible for you guys, when I was afraid that it was your strong point. What the hell was Higgins doing running out of bounds on the two yard line on that kickoff!?
At the same time, you do have a young team. JaMarcus is a beast and will get better once he has a line to protect him. McFadden will be great one day and Schilens has great hands and impressed us. Don’t give up, get rid of Al Davis (yeah, right!) and take care of the Chargers and Broncos!
Rexx
by Rexx on Oct 27, 2008 7:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Asomugha is the best corner in the league
if you can’t see that you’re not watching. The bad part about a shut down corner is you can go to the other side of the field, and Hall has not shown he can handle that kind of attention.
by RaiderPete on Oct 27, 2008 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is no comparison between traveling East
as opposed to East teams traveling West. I don’t know of your experience but I spent many years making the treks back and forth and can tell you there is a major difference, not to mention that starting a game with your biological clock reading 10 a.m. for west coast teams as opposed to eastern teams starting with their clock reading 4 p.m. is a major difference. Going one or two days early doesn’t help either, it takes a minimum of one day per time zone to recover so unless they left on a Monday they have problems.
The other problems west coast teams have is that they log twice as many miles traveling as east coast team, not an insurmountable problem but a significant one.
by Laoren on Oct 27, 2008 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did a breakdown
of west coast teams traveling east. I think it was something like 0-8 but it still no excuse. Teams have been playing this way for years it’s just a matter of being a professional and sucking it up and playing.
by Raider76 on Oct 27, 2008 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a depressing game...
Thanks for the cool aid Saint. Keep it coming. Wilson is everywhere on the field. I am impressed. No, the defense isn’t ranked at good as last year (so far) but exactly what would it be without Wilson? Hall is coming along too. We all expected him to be great from the start…think about how many balls are coming his way as a Raider versus last year. He is going to get better and better as he settles in and gets used to it. If he could just hold on to a few of those potential picks he will be a game changer. Can anbody say “stick em?”
I live, breath and breed Silver and Black!
by sabp on Oct 27, 2008 11:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Postgame Notes
Raiders @ Ravens 10/26
Let’s face it, the Ravens are a better team than us. They have surrounded their rookie QB with a bone-crushing defense and just enough talent on offense to keep it interesting. Given all that though, yesterday’s game was about execution and desire rather than talent, and the Ravens beat us thoroughly in those departments as well.
The "Barely" Good
JaMarcus Russell
The guy was getting hammered in the first half and made a poor decision that led to a safety. He also airmailed JLH on his interception. Still, he bounced back and managed to get 228 yards and a TD, highlighted by the beautiful Schilens catch. Something makes me think that the Raiders don’t practice mid to long passes enough and that’s why JaMarcus isn’t as accurate on them as we’d like.
The Not So Good
Raiders Defense
Raiders Pass Defense
On a typical day holding QBs to 13/25, 183 yards, and 1 TD would put this squarely in the "Good" category, but the mistakes were big mistakes, highlighted by the 70 yard touchdown throw where the D-line got absolutely no pressure on Flacco and Gibril Wilson decided that Demetrius Williams wasn’t worth covering. Even worse, it seemed like the Ravens converted a lot of long 3rd downs on check down throws where missed tackles led to first downs. Morrison and Howard led the team in tackles, but they were far away from the line of scrimmage.
Raiders Run Defense
192 yards and a 4.2 yard average. The Ravens offensive line pushed the Raiders D-Line around all day. The secondary also missed a lot of tackles against the run. Is it too soon to discuss moving Morrison to SLB and bringing in a bigger MLB via free agency or the draft? (Jasper Brinkley from South Carolina is a BEAST)
Raiders Offensive Line (In the First Half)
Yikes, it was not pretty in that first half. It looked like Cornell Green had the worst day of anyone on the line, followed by Harris. Still, there’s no way Mario Henderson would have been an upgrade in that situation. As for the run game, everyone knew that the Ravens were going to stop it, but the Raiders tried, in delusional fashion, to establish it anyway. This game confirms what we’ve all known about the Raiders O-line the past 2 years: above average in run blocking, below average in pass blocking. Don’t look now Kwame, John Abraham and Julius Peppers are coming to town.
Red Zone/Goal To Go Efficiency
Once again, 1 for 3 in the red zone and 1 for 2 in "goal to go" situations. The missed opportunity in the 3rd quarter was really the end of the game for the Raiders, settling for 3 points after the long bomb to Chaz Schilens. Credit the Ravens defense for keeping us out of the end zone.
Final Notes
The momentum of the Jets win is gone, but the Raiders get two home games in a row to get some love from the fans to help them out a bit. This game showed where the upgrades in the Raiders roster need to come, and its with the big guys. We simply need more talent on the O-line and D-line.
"I love being here. I love these players. I'm loyal to these players and this team, all right? I'm on the side of the players and the Raiders. And anybody who isn't on the side of the Raiders, then I'm not with them." - Randy Hanson, DB coach.
by LiveAdam on Oct 27, 2008 11:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In preseason
Kiffin noted several times that JaMarcus needed accuracy on those mid to long range passes. I agree with your final notes. Next years draft we need to focus on building our O-line. We have a franchise quarterback and running back behind a nickle and dime O-line. The main problem with our D-line is not that they lack talent but that we are not deep at that position. We are rotating three players in Warren, Sands and Kelly. These are big boys who after being methodically ran on needs to be fresh.
by Raider76 on Oct 27, 2008 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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