Oakland Raiders Game Thread 11-23-08: Oakland at Denver
Is this our Super Bowl? Will today be the day that this team snaps out of a 6 year hangover?
I don't have the answers to either of those questions, but, I do have hope.
I HOPE that JaMarcus steps up and that the defense will continue to give the offense a chance to win the game.
There has been talk that Shanahan will not go after Nnamdi, by the Rat himself, then that just says to the Raiders that the Broncos may go directly after him. Personally, I'd like to see that. I'd like to see Cutler, Marshall and Royal take it to Nnamdi 8-10 times today. Then I'd also like to see a pick or two and 5-6 passes defensed. They can get a couple catches on him, but he'd win the War. Once again, I'd like to see someone go after Nnamdi. I mean, let the kid play! This is NOT unlike the pitchers NOT pitching to Bonds when he was on a tear. I just want to scream, "Pitch to Nnamdi!!!".
Anybody who can make Nnamdi Asomugha a household name must be one damn good Football player, we just don't really get to see him play.
I also HOPE that Darren McFadden is healthy. If he is healthy, then he should be a large part of the offense today.
Who else here would like to see a little Wild Hawg today? Show of hands?
I HOPE that the Raiders win today...Will they? According to recent history...Probably NOT...But they CAN....
GO RAIDERS!!!!
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Even though this has been a P-ainful year:
I am still excited for the game!!! RRAAAIIDDEERRSS!!!!!
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 12:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fargas off the left:
2 yards
2nd and 8
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 1:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I guess they are NOT stopping the run yet
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 1:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
FFFUUMMBLLEE!!!!!!!!
I love that look on Rat-a-Han’s FACE!@!
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 1:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
yup
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
no red flag?
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
fargas sucks right now
"Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of themselves without that law is both. For a wounded man shall say to his assailant, 'If I live, I will kill you. If I die, You are forgiven.' Such is the rule of honor." Omerta by Lamb of God
by KA1Z3R on Nov 23, 2008 1:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm impressed
JaBust Russell threw to Fargas
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
NICE
Interception
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
not really
farking refs
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Holding
Fucking idiots
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
FAIL
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 1:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wide
right. nice
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
RRAAIIDDERRSSSS
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 1:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Knock-knock-knockin' on Heaven's door
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 1:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You would think
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's DO THIS!!!!!
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 1:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Rush it!
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Stop giving the ball to Fargas.
I am soo sick of him being bad. The future is Bush/McFadden. Five them the fucking ball!
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Nov 23, 2008 1:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why are you calling
Fargas bad?
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cause he is.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Nov 23, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh wow Fargas for -1.
What a surprise.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Nov 23, 2008 1:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why are you knocking
him today?
Usually Fargas is power down hill runner.
McFadden is the one that fumbled, and trips, and usually gets stuffed. And Bush…well I can’t say cuz he never plays.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fargas 3.6 yards per carry
are awesome.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Nov 23, 2008 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a good
running back.
Better than a 1 legger that won’t ever play for us and we should trade and McFadden.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Give DMac 20 carries and
see how much better he is than Fargas.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Nov 23, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dmac will trip
cuz he sucks. and he fumbled more than any other RB we have.
Yeah, he was a great pick in the draft.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah ok. Whatever you say.
DMac and his 5.1 yard per carry isnt as good as only had one decent year and gets hurt all the time Fargas.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Nov 23, 2008 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
if he got stuffed ALL THE TIME last week and other weeks after Fargas got them down field.
so whatever. you like the fumbler good for you.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hes fumbled 2 times this year.
Fargas has once. So whatever you say.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Nov 23, 2008 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess
you like JuBust Russell too?
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You dont?
Hes got plenty of potential. Cable just needs to take the training wheels off.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Nov 23, 2008 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
we tried that. Remember when Knapp was calling play and we came out passing? how long are you gonna rely on the training wheels analogy?
And he SUCKS. He can’t do a short pass. He ALWAYS overthrows. He never gets rid of the ball and takes the sack.
Come on. He’s played long enough that we can’t call him a rookie any more and there are things he just needs to learn. He’s a 68 million dollar bust. Fuck. Walter had the same amount of offense yardage in the 1st 1/4 of the Carolina game as Russell did all game in Atl. Russell is not a good QB or a good leader.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah give up on him 14 games or so into his career
where hes has no offensive help. Good idea. Took Eli Manning 3-4 years become what he is. Knee Jerk much?
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Nov 23, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You have also proven to me that
you are pretty insane. So its prob not worth my time arguing with you.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Nov 23, 2008 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Having to settle
for 3 again
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
cable got lucky
on another lame ass offense call
by phredex20 on Nov 23, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
FAIL again
Shitahan must’ve thought he could ice the Raiders on third down
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 1:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I can haz a line the blocks, plz?
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 1:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Why are we settling for 3
here? WHY CAN’T OUR O-LINE EVER PROTECT ANYONE AND OPEN ROUTES
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
In this case, they're going for it on 4th down
which means they’re settling for 0.
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
don't go for it here
settle for 3
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fargas sucks again.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Nov 23, 2008 1:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That Play Calling is Obtuse!!!
At Best!!
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 1:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
it was fargas right.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
IT WOULD’VE BEEN FARGAS LEFT IF NOT FOR LAWTON
by BLACK TEARS on Nov 23, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
false start
good job there!
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
it wasn't
kwame harris. Impressive
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 1:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
All aboard the FAILBOAT
At least we got three.
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 1:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow
another fg……yaaaa…i’m so excited…not
by phredex20 on Nov 23, 2008 1:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lawton will be fired tomorrow....
Oh wait, that would mean that Michael bush would have to play FB!!!!
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 1:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Up 3-0 is a much better score than this game could be;
Hell, 10-7, Denver, is what it “Should” be, yet, it is 3-0
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 1:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This is what
is should be. We have the talent. Maybe Cable can finally put it together.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Johnson is Doing VERY Well
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 2:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Stanford Routt is not
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
isn't this why
he got pusehd back to 3rd string or whatrever?
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh shite
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 2:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Stokely Pushed off
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 2:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It would be 7-0 if JaBust
could handle a short pass….or a not overthrow for that matter when it matters.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
or the hold
call
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no
pass interference? wow
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Suprised Routt didn't get called for interference there
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 2:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
At least our
Defense is doing something this game.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Let's Go RRRUUSSEELLL!!!!!!
Put together a 3 minute drive for points that will lead to a half time lead1!!!
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 2:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
this is why
we should be scoring td’s not fg’s
by phredex20 on Nov 23, 2008 2:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
21st false start penalty
this year.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah
fargas sucks. Especially that play.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah one play makes him good.
Not his entire season so far.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Nov 23, 2008 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
whatever.
And last year he hand 1000 yds in like 11 starts. Yeah he’s horrible.
But your boy right there didn’t make the first down. Did he? Fargas up the middle for 12. McFadden can’t go 3.
wow.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok Im donw with you.
You obviously arent smart enough to argue intelligently.
"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com
by Syphon on Nov 23, 2008 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
RRRAAAIIDDEERRSSSSS
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 2:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
And Bush too
can’t get 1 yard.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
ugh
this
team
sucks
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 2:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
how lame is our offense?
how sad can we be, not being able to get one freakin’ yard!
by phredex20 on Nov 23, 2008 2:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
That’s the story of the Raiders.
If we had a good QB that could do a dump pass, we could mix it up a little and keep the Defense honest.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is
Denver so confused that they’re burning time outs?
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:22 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wants to keep it close so they can blow us out in the second half
by phredex20 on Nov 23, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Here is where the men seperate themselves:
From the pretenders…RRAAAIIDDEERRSSSS
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
TOUCHDOWN, rrrrrrRAIDERS!!!!!!
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
YES
GO JLH GO!
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
don't yell
at him for the penalty, cable. Fuck you had the practice that was all about TD dances.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I love the guy
w/ out the helmet helping out too!
That’s true heart.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
jlh
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by thebitb on Nov 23, 2008 2:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
God almighty, what a kickoff!
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 2:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He
has a bionic leg.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The announcers are
afraid about kicking off from the 15. Please. With Janikowski.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Esepcially
at mile high
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought
Cable was working on the penalties?
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
DEFENSE!!!!
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 2:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow
this is getting embarassing w/ flags
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
BS call there
Randy Cross has it right there
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 2:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Terrible hall against Howard!!!
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Nov 23, 2008 2:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
It was
a bad call. If he had his arms open though instead of bear hugging him, it probably would have not been called.
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WIDE
left!
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by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2008 2:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
FAIL
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 2:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
no good!!
i thought for sure tht flag would haunt them later
by thebitb on Nov 23, 2008 2:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Justice was served, seeing that the roughing call was total crap
"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08
by doctorK on Nov 23, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
usually
thats something that comes back and kills them…
by thebitb on Nov 23, 2008 2:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

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