Raiders to release DeAngelo Hall

by Bud Light on Nov 4, 2008 6:27 PM PST Comment 41 comments

http://blogs.nfl.com/2008/11/04/raiders-to-release-cb-hall/

Unbelievable if it happens. The Raiders are truly in a state of dysfunctionality.

If they perge the roster that is fine but giving up a 2nd rounder plus basically giving away Washington makes zero sense. I would guess Javon is next.

Hopefully it means Chaz and big Mario get reps to see what we got to figure out our 2009 pick.

THEY BETTER SIGN NMANDI WITH THE $$$$$ SAVED

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Worst run organization is all of sports.

"With 16-year-old Dominican righty Michel Inoa in tow, Gio Gonzalez improving at Triple-A and lefty Brett Anderson carving up Double-Abatters along with Simmons and Trevor Cahill, Oakland’s pitching depthis officially the envy of baseball." - BaseballAmerica.com

by Syphon on Nov 4, 2008 7:43 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

Time to break out the bag heads!

Play more Conan!

by oaklandSMASH on Nov 5, 2008 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

what a debacle

better late than never i guess
…..man its tough putting on the silver and black every sunday…..

who would of thought there would be a day that we just dream of being 8 and 8 and not a laughing stock……

Ellis to the rim.

by warriorsscore110 on Nov 4, 2008 8:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Damn you!

You posted before me. According to article, Walker could be next.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 4, 2008 8:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Enema time

I said right after the Atlanta game that this roster needed to be flushed except for 12 players that are worthy. This is a good start and needs to be done. Sometimes you have to “shock and awe” to completely change directions and correct the huge mistakes that were made.

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by TheRaiderWay on Nov 4, 2008 10:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Did some googling

Tommy Kelly is supposedly on the list too. Rumored to be total of 15.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 4, 2008 9:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I'm hearing Bacon is on the list, too.

Is that good? I’m not sure.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 4, 2008 9:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Good riddance

Now, if the Raiders could just release Al Davis…

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Nov 4, 2008 9:53 PM PST reply actions 3 recs

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

by Syphon on Nov 4, 2008 10:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Some more googling

and it seems this is to throw some $ at a long-term deal w/ Nnamdi Asomugha

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 4, 2008 9:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

That's good - I'd prefer the Raiders throw money at somebody who can actually play

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Nov 4, 2008 10:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

and plays with heart

by Raider76 on Nov 5, 2008 12:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It sounds bad

but it might be a good thing. take all these big money punk bitches out who can’t play. keep nnamdi. keep J-mac. Keep D-mac. Take Javon Walker out. Tommy Kelly Out. Maybe this is what we need

Wack To Mack With The General and The Back. (J-Mac and D-Mac)

by Rayder K on Nov 4, 2008 10:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully Al see's that he can't

do it alone. He needs a GM. He now realizes the decisions that he made where really bad ones.

by Raider76 on Nov 5, 2008 12:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I'm just wondering

if those who supported Al when he fired Kiffin can see whats really going on here. I mean this is an absolute joke. This is unfreakinbelieveable. I really think that raider fans should boycott a game. Shit watch it on tv, maybe if absolutely no one shows up it will send Al a message. THIS TEAM SUCKS!!! worse run organization in all of sports is an understatement.

by Agent Zero on Nov 5, 2008 12:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

100% agree. Until Raider fans stop putting their hard earned cash into Al's pocket, Al will

continue to ruin this once great franchise. A complete boycott of the games and buying the paraphernalia will force Al into selling, which is the only way to get this ship turned.

by Bacon on Nov 5, 2008 5:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Pretty much my first thought was Kiffin/Al dispute

Wasn’t one of the big issues the fact that Kiffin was complaining about some of the players Al brought in, most specifically J Walker? And didn’t Al convince Walker not to retire during preseason, instead convincing Walker to keep the money and stick with the team? And isn’t Al now, in effect, admitting that Cable can’t be expected to win with the very same players Kiffin was expected to win with? Wanna bet this all makes it into Kiffin’s complaint to the league to get his salary paid. Actually, paying Kiffin his salary will just put him in the same category as Hall and Walker: a bad personnel choice and financial decision made by Al.

by guapobob on Nov 5, 2008 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't

think that’s fair about Kiffin. The players were really buying into his strategy. And it WAS working. Slowly, maybe. But Kiffin knew he was sunk from the word go in the offseason when he had no say in personnel at all.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 5, 2008 9:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

exactly

think about it. weeks 1-4 our team had some decent promise. then cable comes in and we just compeltly enter the shitter. kiffin was our new john gruden. he was a smart coach doing w/e he could to keep us in the game. to go as far as we did wih this team is a true testament to lane kiffin. with kiffin we where maybe another season away from being a contender. if kffin had all control we coudl have been a real good team real soon. but Al’s jealousy ruined us again. good job al good job

by Raiders19494 on Nov 5, 2008 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

wow

i cant believe they gave this guy that big of a contract with that much guranteed money and are just gonan cut him like that. i understand hes gettin burned, but shit wth has javon walker done? wtf has tommy kelly done? if u wanna save money get a GM. in the long run its gonna help this team out. when i saw this story break i was shocked. still am. at this point id be happy with matt millen as our gm. no lie…wow i cant believe i just said that :(

by Raiders19494 on Nov 5, 2008 3:45 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

I actaully kind of liked Hall

who’s going to fill in for next year, he was the best option to play opposite Nnamdi that’s available and should be available.

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by KA1Z3R on Nov 5, 2008 4:02 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

yeah

me too kaizer. i dont know of a better corner on our team. doesnt make sense. if ne one should go its javon walker ronald curry and tommy kelly

by Raiders19494 on Nov 5, 2008 4:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

This is just sad...

Raiders fans are some of the best fans in all of sports, any sport, and to see what is happening to this franchise, and indirectly you guys and gals as a result, simply sucks. No other way to put it. As was said before, remember that you the fans do have the power.

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by John Bena (aka TheSportsGuru) on Nov 5, 2008 5:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Just what we need, sympathy from a Bronco fan

No knock on you, Guru. I appreciate the sentiment. But this is what we, the fans, have sunk to. At one time the Raiders ruled this division and the cry of “lock up your daughters, the Raiders are coming to town” wasn’t just said in jest. Now we’re reduced to an object of pity, which we are, because we stand by this team through thick and thin, hoping they’ll turn it around. I wish I didn’t care so much about this team, and that I hadn’t discovered football back in the early 70’s so it wouldn’t hurt so much to remember how great they once were.

by guapobob on Nov 5, 2008 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

oh boy

well said bob. i remember the good ol days well…the good ol days for me was back with rich gannon. im not that old. lol. but man i miss those times where we would go into every game KNOWING they didnt have a shot at beating us

by Raiders19494 on Nov 5, 2008 9:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Boycott

Might take some incredible planning, but it could work. This week is out, and the next two games are against the Chiefs and Patriots. Might be a hard sell even though KC sucks, and Brady is hurt. Ah, but the last game of the season against Houston; there’s our opportunity.

And let me speak for the record that “admitting your mistakes” and/or “sending messages” by releasing players is not a bad thing. I also think that Hall should not be one of those guys.

Anyways, if you are all serious about a boycott- and remember some of us have already paid hard-earned money for these tickets- let me know. I remember in 1980 when the fans protested the move to LA by not going into the game until five minutes in. This season is bound to get worse as it moves along, so waiting until the last game to boycott wouldn’t necessarily kill the moment of the current mood.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 5, 2008 6:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

"Momentum" not "moment" in that last sentence.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 5, 2008 6:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

boycott?

I just checked the TV listings and I see that this weekends game is not blacked out in the bay area, doesn’t that mean it is a sell out? After the worst spanking in I don’t know how long the Raiders still have a sell out? Raiders fans are too die hard to boucott anything.

The crowd is going to be pissed this weekend though. I just hope that something changes soon.

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by sabp on Nov 5, 2008 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

We’re gluttons for punishment, that’s for certain.

So maybe we get ‘em all to go in late. What’s a little extra tailgate time on the last game of the season? The other problem is, too many Raider fans are just as loyal to Al as they are to the team itself. Maybe the numbers have gone down, judging from what I’ve been reading here, but he is still held in fairly high standing. I think it’s high time the loyal, paying customers speak out in some fashion or another.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 5, 2008 11:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Nothing better

than a purge and house cleaning. Al is not the only owner who has fallen into the free agent trap. It doesn’t work because guys who are satisfied don’t play as hard as hungry guys. The average career in the NFL is 4 years and rosters change dramatically over that period of time. Al went crazy this year throwing out huge amounts of money and got in return a bunch of satisfied players not willing to lay it out on the line. If Al gives Cable the go ahead to purge this roster then we have finally turned the corner with this franchise.
It means Al sees what the coaches see, guys who are not performing and unwilling to sacrifice to win, time will tell.

by Laoren on Nov 5, 2008 6:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

It has been done.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Nov 5, 2008 12:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Shouldn't the GM go too?

Or is that Al? This move makes no sense at all. You just signed the guy this past off-season. If hall was a bad signing and there are 12-15 other players that also should be cut loose then its more a reflection of the GM than anyone else. If the GM is Al then all he is saying is that he should fire himself or at least hire a replacement.

Does he think he is sending a message to the rest of the team? How is that going to work? bewildering to say the least

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by Jaxon on Nov 5, 2008 1:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I think

he just won’t admit Kiffin was right.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 5, 2008 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The 2008-2009 Season. It's a wrap!

This is what the a few of the players had to say:

"I’ve never been in a situation where you cut one of the best players," said safety Gibril Wilson, another of the team’s offseason acquisitions. "That’s strange to me. It’s almost like we’re throwing in the towel."

"I’m obviously disappointed," Asomugha said. "I don’t agree with what happened. I don’t agree with what’s going on. But I am just a player so I can’t speak on it. I don’t make the decisions. All I can do is play but I don’t agree with what happened at all."

"There’s been some things that have been going on, some shakeups, that I haven’t agreed with," Asomugha said. "Like I said, I’m not allowed to speak on it because we’re just supposed to shut up and play. But you ask me if I agree with it? I don’t agree with it."

This speaks volumes in the fact that the Raider’s would like to keep Nnmadi. After this I don’t think he will return next season. This is a huge blow to the lockerroom. I’m afraid to see the effort they put forward this sunday.

by Raider76 on Nov 5, 2008 5:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Maybe

now the NFL can step in and take the franchise from Al?

And I do think Asomugha will sign.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 5, 2008 9:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

asomugha

will not sign. no way in hell man. hes too good a player to be stuck on this team. i love the guy hes been a true raider playing with his whole heart every week. im sure he has aspirations to win too. cutting hall just shows him the raiders wont be winning ne time soon. hopfully we can do like what the redskins did and trade the great corner for a good offensive player a la clinton portis. theres no point in having one shut down corner if there just ognna fart all over stanford routt all game

by Raiders19494 on Nov 5, 2008 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Franchise Tag

The Raiders can place the franchise tag on Nnandi for 2 more seasons. Nnamdi isn’t going anywhere, at least not for free.

Also from the same article Nnamdi said:

As the team captain, Asomugha said he was informed by Cable of the decision but wasn’t given a reason. He said he told Cable what he thought and intends to seek a meeting with Al Davis. Asomugha also isn’t happy with the Ronald Curry or Michael Huff benchings and how they were handled.

"I haven’t spoken to him yet. I’m sure I’ll be speaking to him soon," Asomugha said. "Just about the nature of what’s going on. I think I’ve been here long enough that we can have that discussion, how this thing can get better."</blockquote

When he meets with Al, Al will clear the air and convince him to sign long-term while informing him of the changes that will take place including the hiring of a General Manager.

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by TheRaiderWay on Nov 6, 2008 2:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not that optimistic

that Al can convince Nnamdi to stay. Al’s handling of the team this year has fractured the locker room. The writing is on the wall. We had a good thing going at the beginning of the year to try and build off of but with the firing of Kiffin and the release of Hall this season is over and I don’t see any sensible free agent coming here any time soon. We will have to try and acquire talent thru the draft which we all know hasn’t really worked out for us too well.

by Raider76 on Nov 6, 2008 9:39 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs