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NEWS FLASH!! - Kiffin Gone...Again! *UPDATED*

Updated media  response below, post by: TheRaiderWay on 5/24/2008

 

Yes Raider fans here we go again. In what is now looking like one of our very best off seasons in recent memory, one that is void of all those indiscretions and cheating accusations that are popping up with so many of the other NFL teams, we get this hater rubbish from what at first appeared to be Steve Corkran but now is showing to be Bay Area beat reporter Gary Peterson. (note, if it actually was Steve Corkran I might be concerned):

http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_9352661

Kiffin down for the count with Raiders
Column by Gary Peterson
Article Created: 05/22/2008 08:00:41 PM PDT


ALAMEDA

Does demeanor count for anything? Because Lane Kiffin, future former coach of the Oakland Raiders, watched his future former team at Thursday's minicamp with the appearance of a man marking time.

Certainly he looked nothing like the wide-eyed, fresh-faced kid who blew into town 16 months ago extolling the virtues of exhausting, sweaty, manly physical labor.

"They will play happy," he said then, referring to his future former players, "and they will play hard. The game will become easy to them because practice will be hard."

Kiffin walked the walk last summer. Or, more accurately, he sprinted it. He was a dervish during training camp, clapping his hands, calling out encouragement and instruction, getting his hands all over the product. He worked himself right into a case of mononucleosis.

Does body language count for anything? Because Kiffin spent much of Thursday's session standing apart from the action, arms folded, watching his future former offense scrimmage against his future former defense.

His assistant coaches, one of whom he was forbidden from discharging at the end of last season, interacted with the players. Kiffin didn't interact with much of anyone. He consulted a sheet of paper from time to time, and clapped his hands every now and then.

He looked like a fellow emotionally detaching himself from his job in preparation for the professional
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detachment that is sure to follow.

The difference between last year and this? Simple - when Kiffin took the job, he foolishly believed he was the Head Whistle In Charge. When he tried to exert himself within the organization the way HWICs in other organizations do, he was called to the big office for a rousing game of "I'm Al Davis and You're Not."

Kiffin wanted defensive coordinator Rob Ryan gone. Davis wanted Ryan to stay. Ryan was on the field Thursday, coaching up the defense.

Davis wanted to add James Lofton, whom he had twice interviewed for the job Kiffin now holds, to the Raiders staff. Kiffin had nothing to say about it. Lofton is on staff and ready to serve.

There were reports that Davis requested, in writing, Kiffin's resignation. The Raiders have denied the reports. The Raiders also have denied most of the 1990s.

In any event, it is safe to assume Davis would like Kiffin to leave but doesn't want to pay a coach who isn't on site. And that Kiffin would love to be rid of the Raiders but doesn't want to walk away from the remaining two years and $4 million guaranteed in his contract.

It bears noting that Kiffin, speaking with reporters after practice, still sounded like a head coach - aware, in control, if not particularly enthused. JaMarcus Russell, looking good "... Gibril Wilson allows Michael Huff to play on the flex side some "... another minicamp coming up "...

The anecdotal evidence - sorry, can't name names - suggests the players are hip to what's happening. The Raiders tend to operate in a leadership vacuum anyway. But while they're used to the sight of dead men walking, this appears to be a new twist on the dynamic - a disinterested future former coach watching.

Do logos count for anything? Shortly after his troubles with Davis began, Kiffin (and his staff) coached in the Senior Bowl. While his assistants wore Raiders apparel, Kiffin opted for conspicuously generic gear.

From a distance Thursday, it appeared he had relented in this regard. His black pullover T-shirt seemed to have a small Raiders shield below the front collar.

A closer look after practice, however, revealed not a Raiders logo but a rounded triangle, inside which was written: Equipment NFL.

Does that qualify as looking too closely for signs of the apocalypse? Maybe. After all, it was only last month that Kiffin appeared at the NFL's league meeting wearing a Raiders golf shirt.

Then again, maybe not. At that meeting, Kiffin addressed the situation between himself and Davis. "Where there's smoke, there's fire," he told reporters. "Obviously there was something."

Since then he has addressed the subject by saying he's already addressed the subject. And, assuming this counts for something, by how he acts and what he wears when he's working his future former job.

Contact Gary Peterson at gpeterson@bayareanewsgroup.com.

 

I mean with ONLY positive news out there to report on the Raiders from the OTA's with noticeable improvement from the defense, JaMarcus and Darren to name a few, we get the above crap from this "brilliant" reporter who wants to feed football hungry Raider Nation with old quotes, unsubstantiated rumors, coaches body language and coaches  wardrobes instead of what is going on on the field. I glad he left his email address because I think it will fill up after this trash!

 

RAIDER ON!!

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Yeah, he got destroyed in the comments section at the bottom of the article. Apparently some people think he’s a poor reporter? I’ve never noticed anything horrid come from him, but I don’t really pay much attention to him either.

by passionately objective on May 23, 2008 11:36 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I read the same article in the Review this morning.

My first instinct was to write a blistering letter but then I thought that would only make him happy, he could go to the editor and tell him of his response which means he would write another “hit piece”. So I reasoned ignoring him was the best thing to do. If the Raiders win then all of this is meaningless.
I have seen 3 different Kiffin interviews on Raiders.com. In the first one he did seem somewhat distant and I wrote about that here on another thread. But the last two that I have seen he seemed pretty much like last year. Remember that these are rookie camps, and OST’s and nothing is really happening, what is there to get excited about, the first game is still a couple of months away, nobody is hitting anybody, and it is not the place for the Head coach to be interacting alone with the players, that is the job of the assistant coaches. In any event, when it is all said and done this article amounts to nothing and commenting about something that happened in January is “old news”.
In the most recent interviews Kiffin is wearing his Raider visor, just like last year.
On the other hand it has been almost 3 weeks without any Raider “negative hit pieces” so a sportswriter somewhere had to put at least one in the paper. The surprising thing is that David Wright didn’t do it. In fact, Wright has almost been positive in his articles lately. For some reason the writers are having trouble “dissing” the Raiders for drafting McFadden. Finally, if you look closely at the article it is mostly about things that happened months ago, and is filled with “we must assume” or “we all know that” when in fact we don’t know anything. Kiffin has been quoted as saying he didn’t want Ryan fired, is that true? Hell, I don’t know but neither does anyone else except Davis and Kiffin.
I am repeating myself for the 100th time but Kiffin is at fault for the entire episode, it was he or his agent that floated the “Arkansas job”, not Davis. Davis reacted as he should have, telling the ingrate if he didn’t want to coach here all he has to do is sign a paper. Kiffin blinked, Davis didn’t. Big Al never blinks.

by Laoren on May 23, 2008 11:44 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just curious...

how do you know it was Kiffin or his agent that floated the “Arkansas job”?

by passionately objective on May 23, 2008 3:41 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is a good point

I don’t know that, but Kiffin could have quelled the rumors immediately if they were not true and he has never once said that, so logic says it must have been accurate. Look at it this way, if Davis didn’t like the job Kiffin was doing then he would simply fire him, like he did with Shell, or before that Shanahan. The one thing about Al is he doesn’t let money stand in the way of doing what he wants. It has always been difficult with the Raiders because they are so tight lipped, so you never know if a rumor is true or false, never have, never will as long as Big Al is in charge.

by Laoren on May 23, 2008 7:25 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

UPDATE - Real Reporting

This from Jerry McDonald’s blog lays out a very realistic and objective report about Kiffin and the situation from yesterday. What makes this so great is that Jerry publicly calls out a fellow columnist, (Gary Peterson – calling him a journalist would be a major reach) and sets the record straight. This is a good read and it is nice to see such a quick response:

http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/2008/05/23/low-key-lane/

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It was about 30 minutes or so into the Raiders’ practice Thursday at the so-called organized team activity when someone asked, "Where’s Kiffin?"

I had no idea. Hadn’t heard him, seen him or even looked for him while checking off roster numbers to get an idea of who showed up and who didn’t to the voluntary workout.

I looked harder, and there he was, standing alone, taking it all in, no more noticeable than than a member of the support staff charged with making sure there was a constant supply of footballs.

Which brings us to the column in today’s Oakland Tribune and Contra Costa Times written by Gary Peterson (misidentified initially on the Internet as having been authored by Steve Corkran).

As you probably already know, Peterson came to practice Thursday, watched low-key Lane’s act and surmised the coach knows he is on the clock and is simply awaiting the offer of a cigarette and blindfold.

Bringing up much of the tumultuous offseason as a backdrop _ the non-firing of Rob Ryan, the hiring of James Lofton, the wardrobe selection at the Senior Bowl, etc., etc., etc. _ Peterson used his license as a columnist to reach his conclusions.

I can state with certainty that less than three months ago, Kiffin really didn’t know if he would be the Raiders coach in 2008. As to what Al Davis was thinking, I would be far less certain, but can give at least an educated guess.

The owner probably thought the kid coach was being pretty ungrateful for having been given the opportunity of a lifetime, responding with a 4-12 record, and then telling the boss the best way to go about fixing his sorry franchise.

Probably not Kiffin’s best move, in retrospect.

But Kiffin, rather than quit in anger, dug in his heels and kept coming to work. He accepted his medicine, gave his input, and watched as Davis went on a spending spree to remake a roster Kiffin has said publicly was short on talent.

How much Davis listened to Kiffin, only he knows. And he’s not saying. Whether Kiffin agreed with every move, only he knows. And he’s not saying.

But there is no denying Kiffin has much more talent at his disposal, not to mention a far less daunting schedule.

He is continuing to run the offense he wants, a zone-blocking running game combined rollouts and safe passes designed to build passing percentage, before layering in the deep strikes Davis loves.

Kiffin’s on-field demeanor has been a topic of discussion among those of us who have been at the rookie minicamp and OTAs. I’m not ready to think it’s overly significant for a few reasons.

First, Kiffin wasn’t exactly a fireball last season until training camp hit. He was similar to what we’ve seen so far _ wandering from position to group to position group, supervising rather than dominating, allowing his assistants to do their work. The practice tempo hasn’t changed.

Whether Kiffin will appear more authoritative when the Raiders adjourn to Napa is anybody’s guess. He might not feel he needs to come on as strong with a program already in place. And while I may be in the minority here, I thought at times last year his enthusiasm looked forced, almost contrived, as if he were trying to resurrect Jon Gruden.

Kiffin and Steve Sarkisian used to journey to Tampa each year to study offense with Gruden, and there were times it seemed as if Lane was operating straight out of the Chucky handbook.

The problem is, Kiffin is not Gruden in terms of personality. Having done extensive background on Kiffin when he was hired, talking to old high school coaches, former teammates, coaching colleagues and family members, he is more to the Tony Dungy or Bill Belichick side of the scale than Gruden.

What Peterson sees as Kiffin "marking time" could be the coach simply showing more of his true self.

I didn’t even notice Kiffin wasn’t wearing a Raiders emblem Thursday, and while I have no doubt he was sending a message not wearing the shield during the Senior Bowl, he has worn Raiders gear publicly in recent weeks.

For now, the worst is over and everyone seems to have moved on and is concentrating on 2008.

It is going to be all about how the Raiders perform, whether they can stop the run and at the same time get an efficient performance from a quarterback in his first full season as a starter.

A poor start, and Kiffin could be shown the door before midseason, because the players will be out for themselves, knowing the coach is a short-timer. Kiffin is the only Raiders coach under Davis to survive a 12-loss season. He won’t do it a second time.

A good start and a winning season, and Davis will at some point make a public appearance and tell everyone how good he is at identifying young coaching talent.

by TheRaiderWay on May 24, 2008 1:49 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

f>&% Lame Kiffin,

If he doesnt want to be our coach, well F him. That just shows that he’s not a true RAIDER we need a coach that is going to be passionate about coaching the RAIDERS. He has to understand that Al build this team and he is the CHIEF RAIDER here,Yeah they all might just be rumors or someone might be leaking some of Lame Kiffin’s emotions, but this is the NFL and you are coaching the greatest franchise in the history of the NFL. So this message is for you LAME, GET YOUR SHIT STRAIGHT OR GET THE F@%$ OUT OF OUR TEAM AND STOP WASTING OUR TIME AND MONEY, WE THE RAIDER NATION AREN’T GOING TO SUPPORT A CRY BABY COACH, WE WANT A REAL COACH THAT BLEEDS SILVER AND BLACK AND WILL STICK WITH OUR TEAM AND OUR PHILOSOPHY THROUGH GOOD AND BAD TIMES.

"THE RAIDERS DON'T REBUILD THEY RELOAD"

by raiderlalo81 on May 24, 2008 10:00 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

go

away

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on May 26, 2008 10:40 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks The Raider Way

The article by McDonald pretty much parallels what I felt about the situation. A lot of nothing about nothing. As I noted earlier I saw 3 interviews of Kiffin and in each he was wearing the Raider logo so I knew that was just a silly comment. All the other stuff was just supposition by a quack writer. Let the season begin, I have a good feeling about this season, and for Kiffin’s sake it better be. Al didn’t spend all the money to fail.

by Laoren on May 24, 2008 7:29 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Old News.

If Kiffin was going to get fired it would have happened around the senior bowl when all this stuff broke. Thank god someone stopped Al from running him out of town, he’s one of the bright spots on this team.

by RaiderPete on May 24, 2008 10:22 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTF?!?!

when did this happend?
F#@$! If Kiffin’s gone..who’s gonna be our coach?

Wear the Silver,Wear the Black, Never Retreat, Always Attack!!!

by Jagjivan on May 25, 2008 9:31 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

controversy

It seems that Kiffin is having a rough time day to day because of his age. He is an underestimated coach that will get better in years to come and will lead the raiders back to their winning ways. These rumors about him leaving are just to stir up some media drama because he’s more of a silent leader. With McFadden added to his offensive arsenal he will not even consider taking up any other coaching jobs because the Raiders are a young team now and will only get better. Lane will develop along the side of Jamarcus Russell and will turn our offense not only into a top 5 rushing team but also a top 5 passing team. Now if we can just do something to stop the run…Hopefully Sapp puts on 40 pounds and comes back to us to play defensive tackle! :)

by thepunisher00187 on May 25, 2008 11:48 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I Don't Give A Whoo

No more. I love Kiffin as our coach. My favorite coach next to Gruden. I ‘Am behind every decision he makes.

Wack To Mack With The General and The Back. (J-Mac and D-Mac)

by Rayder K on May 25, 2008 1:52 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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