Oakland Raiders News: ESPN the Mag Got The "Tuck Rule" Right:
So, Raider Nation, it appears that over a half decade later there are fans on the East Coast that admit how royally screwed the Silver and Black got on that snowy night in New England.
The impact of that game led to the Patriots dynasty.
Just like I'll never forget where I was for the Loma Prietta Earthquake (Laying on my waterbed waiting for the World series to start), I will never forget where I was when the Oakland Raiders were "Tucked" by the refs. (At a Pizza Parlor on my way to Nor Cal to play a Show)
For years New Englanders have reveled in the fact that their team got over on us. I mean, maybe we get Junior Seau and Rodney Harrison IF we win that game...Maybe when we land Randy Moss he goes on to break all of Jerry Rice's records in an Oakland Uniform?
I appreciate the fact that a portion of the East Coast is finally admitting that they owe part of their success to a "Snow Job" against the Raiders.
The entire list is pretty spot on and it's an entertaining read.
Thank you Ted Bauer for letting everyone out there know what we within the Raider Nation have been saying for years.
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I can't
remember where I was watching that game because I try to keep it out of my mind! I do remember watching the play over, and over and over and over and over in utter disbelief. I still can’t believe it.
I live, breath and breed Silver and Black!
by sabp on Jul 2, 2008 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I Did A Champions For Children Event Four Years Ago:
The First one had Vida Blue and a couple of Earthquake players with the MLS Cup. The second one which never happened, and it’s probably a good thing, would have had Tom Brady, Andrew Firestone and Others at Ricky’s in San Leandro. I have a feeling that we may have had to move it to the Chophouse in SF.
Pride And Poise!!!
by saint on Jul 2, 2008 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was
at home with friends and I remember I was pissed the rest of the day. I remember I broke my remote I was so pissed. Still am. Damn why did you have to bring it up?
by Raider76 on Jul 2, 2008 3:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry About That:
I was on my way to play at a peace and love show in Willits and was listening to the game on my car radio. When it was 13-3 I pulled over at a pizza parlor. When the game was over, I wanted to break the damn big screen…I was SOOOOOOO Pissed.
I am glad that at least someone from the East Coast is admitting that it was bunk and that it effected the course of BOTH franchises.
I still can’t watch that game or the Super Bowl against Tampa, they are too painful.
Pride And Poise!!!
by saint on Jul 2, 2008 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got it. Watch it. Hate it.
Still have a VHS copy of this game I recorded as it happened. If you can get your hands on one, check out the last seconds before the final OT field goal (if you have the stomach) The camera settles on the scoreboard just long enough for the world to see the score at Raiders 13 Patriots 16 BEFORE THE KICK!! IN OT!! IMPOSSIBLE, but it happened!
by Black n Silver Bleeder on Jul 2, 2008 3:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No way...
why did you have to print that? WTF! No way! ...I’ll be back, I have to puke!
Ok, I feel better now. I’ll chase down video on that. My dad was a master conspiracy theorist for this sort of thing. In the spirit of my father I’ll give you what would have been his take on this (god rest his soul) The game was played in 2002 for the 2001 -2002 season. 911 happened in September 2001. The goverment picked the Patriots to win because they are the PATRIOTS. They would never let a team go to the super bowl that half the country hates. Raiders and Pirates = rape, pillage and plunder. Everyone can rally behind Patriots = Red White and Blue.
Now next year, I’ll discuss how it is my dad could also predict wich state will win the Miss America pagent based on who is president and general political climate of the country. LOL
I live, breath and breed Silver and Black!
by sabp on Jul 2, 2008 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are You My Brother?
My dad calls the same stuff!!!
Pride And Poise!!!
by saint on Jul 2, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rob Lytle
Though I agree that the “Snow Job” is #1, the Rob Lytle “fumble” should have made the top 5.
In the 1978 AFC Championship, back before instant replay, the Bronco’s Rob Lytle was ruled to have scored the go-ahead touchdown even though replays clearly showed he lost the ball before crossing the goal line with the Raiders’ Mike McCoy recovering and sprinting to the other end zone for a would be Raider touchdown! .
I will always hate that game and that non-call for robbing the Raiders of another Super Bowl.
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
by TheRaiderWay on Jul 3, 2008 1:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dynasty?!?!?!?!
Look you can’t deny these clowns got 3 SB rings… But dynasty?
You need at least 4 in a 10 year span and you also need to dominate it… So son, if you ain’t got 4 then your “Dynasty’s” out the door!
If NE would have beat the Giants then they would be in that class but 3 ain’t enough. Besides the 3 wins these Bozos have were by no more than a field goal’s difference.
ADD the CHEATING and these 3 wins suddenly don’t look so dominating and the word ASTERISK is suddenly more apperant.
Besides, everyone knows that 1st SB was not won by the Patri-CHEATS, It was awarded to them by the NFL & their crowny Colman. We couldn’t have the Raiders Beat the PATRIOTS??! Not after 9-11…
No I’m not into conspiracy’s but this one is real fishy!!!
So please dynasty? Only if you go get the DVD collection of that 80’s show. Otherwise, EEEEECCCHHHKKKK, Wrong answer, thanks for playin!!!
by Snoopy on Jul 3, 2008 5:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At This Point:
The Pate-Cheats are will be the team of the first decade of the 21st Century…That team COULD have been the Raiders. Dynasty? Probably…Not Definitely. Clouded Dynasty? Definitely.
Pride And Poise!!!
by saint on Jul 3, 2008 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tuck Rule
I am a lifelong Razorback fan and Raider fan. When that call was made, I was watching on tv and screaming at Walt Coleman, the referee (who happens to be from Arkansas, too). I saw his father that fall and told him to tell Walt that he blew it…I was watching on that “TD” that Rob Lytle didn’t score. I almost had a stroke over that one, too. Lester Hayes is my favorite former Raider…I remember his record setting year in interceptions….and he had 3 called back in Denver. I always knew that the Silver and Black would never get a fair shot with the officials, especially in Denver or KC. Hope all the Raider Nation will enjoy D-Mac as much as Razorback fans have for the last 3 years.
by Hogmary on Jul 3, 2008 7:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lester is my favorite too:
After they beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl, all I did in school for the next few days was draw pictures of Kenny King and Lester Hayes.
Pride And Poise!!!
by saint on Jul 3, 2008 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NE
Since the %uck Game I have called the Patsies…. Patrirefs. When ‘The Scandal’ broke on the Patrirefs I started calling them… Cheatrirefs. The thing all Raider fans have to keep in mind is that when the Raider’s win, we have and will again, it isn’t only against the other team it is against the Refs and the NFL. That is one of the many reasons I pull for the Silver and Black and have since a 7 year old watched a up and coming team play GB in SB II. God Bless You Al Davis.
Oakland Raider's Till I Die... And Then Some.
by rebraider on Jul 3, 2008 9:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fortunately I was living in China at the time
and missed the game, the play, just saw the final score and was depressed naturally. Only in the following days did I see some highlights etc. At the time in China, internet connections were difficult at best so never really got to see the play clearly. It is nothing new that the Raiders would get screwed by a referee call. Because of my situation at the time it doesn’t hurt as much since I didn’t see it, or live it.
I was in Thailand when the Raiders lost to the Bucs in the Super Bowl, so that doesn’t hurt as much either. But now I am home for good, it is time to get serious. By the way, was listening to Gigantino on KNBR this morning , he doesn’t think Russell will be a top flight QB, for our sakes we have to hope he is wrong.
by Laoren on Jul 3, 2008 10:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What Does Gigantinao Know?
I met him at the KNBR event last year and he asked me what everyone was complaing about now. I let him know that we were pretty happy except for the fact that Bush was not activated so we wouldn’t know whether or not we should take Mcfadden with our first round pick. His response was, “McFadden won’t be there when we pick”. Great knowledge Artie!!!
Pride And Poise!!!
by saint on Jul 3, 2008 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grown Man Crying
I was at work listening to the game on Radio. I can’t recall the guys calling the game (on Westwood One, Trumpy I think ) but I can hear his voice in my head as we speak. He said while awaiting the refs in the replay booth “what’s taking the refs so long to see if it was a fumble. It’s clearly a fumble. If the refs call this a fumble, Al Davis will come outta the suite and onto the middle of the field.” At that point I felt at ease with his comments. When the refs finally announced the call, a tear came out of my right eye. I could not believe it. I taped the game and still have the VHS tape. It’s labled 1-19-01 My Last Game. I declared that I would never watch another football game ever. Time heals all wounds and I was watching my Raiders again the next season. But I did not watch the remainder of the playoffs and the Super Bowl. Can you believe a hardcore football fan not watching the Super Bowl? That’s how pissed I was.
by N.O. Raider on Jul 3, 2008 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I Was Blown Away Too:
I’ll never forget the rage and “flaberghastedness” that I felt.
Pride And Poise!!!
by saint on Jul 3, 2008 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad night
I was at one of my wifes friends parties and I talked her into turning on the game for me. Another one of my wife’s friends was from Boston and the whole game we’re going back and forth about the game. After the tuck rule play she didn’t say another word cause I was so pissed off. After the game I went and took a long walk around the apartment complex we were at before I could join the party. Things got worse when I went home. I jumped into my 01 Mustang GT and started driving home I noticed that my head lights didn’t look right and wasn’t really bright. Then when I tried to change lanes my turn signals didn’t work. Well needless when I got home I looked and saw why my lights were so dim. I was running off of my fog lights only because my headlight assemblies were gone. Those things cost $600 each.
by Hayes37 on Jul 3, 2008 8:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Snowblow
I remember where I was….......AT THAT GAME!!!! My son and I had gotten tickets on the day of the game from a local radio station that was auctioning them off to benefit a battered woman shelter (good cause) and I had outbid a Patsy fan. We wore our Raider gear in the midst of all of the cowards and I say that because some coward during the game had poured hot chocolate on the back of my son’s white Jerry Rice jersey during the game and ruined it. It was a good thing that we didn’t see it until after the game because I’m sure that my son had a Jack Tatum type hit that he would have laid on the Patsy coward had he known. The only consolation that I have is that WE can say that we were there and I take comfort in knowing that the Zebra’s helped the Patsy’s out of 40+ years of ineptitude. Something that the Raiders could only attain by losing for another 15+ years. Just don’t see that happening. So the gloating in New England is over and it’s great to see the disappearance of all of the Patsy fans who have crawled back under their wet rocks with the loss to the Giants and it seems as though the “gold standard” has been severely tarnished knowing that they’ve cheated over the years and they just ain’t the fine, upstanding men that they would like to portray themselves to be.
by raiduz77 on Jul 4, 2008 8:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Beantown fans are either
1. Annoying (Red Sux)
2. Myopic (Cheatriots)
or
3. Bandwagoneers (CelDicks)
Honestly, I’m not surprised that one beanfart acted so classlessly to your kid and bolted.
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jul 16, 2008 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
During the Snowjob
I had just arrived in Santa Monica with my family on a trip from San Jose. We were listening to the game on the radio and sat in front of the television to see the rest of the game. All the time, I had my Raiders cap and Rich Gannon jersey on.
I remember feeling like we had the game in the bag when Woodson put that hit that induced the Brady fumble which was scooped up by our defense. I remember feeling invincible ready to celebrate the Super Bowl berth on the streets of Santa Monica. I also remember yelling at the television when the fumble was overturned on a technicality.
After losing the game, my family and I walked around Santa Monica and all we could hear was how we were screwed royally out of the SB.
Now, after all this years, I feel justified that people know the Raiders got screwed, but forever will remember how the Cheatriots and the NFL found a way to steal our superbowl from us.
Green Hulk Fists
by oaklandSMASH on Jul 16, 2008 12:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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