O' Neal and Carter loss hurts Raiders in Monday Night Debacle
by KA1Z3R
on Sep 11, 2008 6:13 PM PDT
You can blame whoever you want for our loss on monday, but names not mentioned are Drew Carter and Oren O'Neal. In reality, if these two had played on Monday, our offense would have been much better. Here's why:
Oren O'Neal- Oren was supposed to have an even better year than his great rookie campaign. With improved receiving ability and better rushing strength, there was talk of him beating out Griffith for the starting job. Instead, he takes an unfortunate turn down injury road. If he had been in on monday, this offense could have been far better. With Denver sending blitz after blitz (or just beating us with the front four) and extra blocker would have been nice. Don't get me wrong, Griffith can block okay, but O'Neal is practically another O-Lineman. With Russell under less pressure than usual, he could have hit Lelie or Curry. Not only that, runs by Fargas and McFadden could have gone even farther. O'Neal's blocking was greatly missed and would have really helped us.
Drew Carter- I'm honestly amazed that Carter's name isn't in the discussion for reasons why we were blown out. Carter was one of the few players able to get any separation. He was also a rather reliable catcher. If carter was in there, his speed would have been nice for Russell to get a deep pass off to. Plus, with Carter bringing a speed threat, Denver wouldn't have doubled Miller as much. Carter is a bigger loss than people give him credit for. With as much speed, maybe even more, as Lelie and far better hands, there's no telling how much better the passing offense could have been. Carter also had a chemistry with Russell, so there's no telling how lethal a combo they could have been.
So, we can point fingers at Ryan, Hall, and Harris, but in reality, they didn't have much of an offense that was capable of scoring. O'Neal and Carter were going to be surprise players this year, but instead, we're going to be wishing they never got injured through the entire season. The reasons detailed above will continue through the year and cost us some games. Raiders go 6-10.
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I agree they would have helped but
The Raiders got their Arse handed to them in every facet of the game. Blaming 2 injured players for a complete ass whooping isn’t fair to them. Every player and coach needs to take a long look in the mirror cause the blame lies with everyone of them.
by Bud Light on Sep 11, 2008 9:27 PM PDT 0 recs
We signed
Lelie to replace Carter. Lelie is better than Carter so the loss of Carter made no difference at all in this game because we obviously weren’t throwing deep anyways.
O’neal is a good blocker but Griffith is a former pro bowler and made a big catch in the game that was badly needed. O’neal probably wouldn’t of made that catch. Not because of talent because I like O’neal, but, he isn’t a proven route runner.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til' I die.
by thepunisher00187 on Sep 11, 2008 9:33 PM PDT 0 recs
I don't think Carter is better than Lelie
just my opinion. And O’ Neal’s blocking may have prevented Russell’s fumble.
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 12, 2008 3:52 AM PDT 0 recs
Missing players
Well, if that argument is used, the Broncos were without their best receiver. The Pats were without Brady and still won.
But I think Javon Walker might have helped out more than Carter.
But no excuses, right.
Tuck Rule my ass!
by Raidah on Sep 12, 2008 12:45 PM PDT 0 recs
O'Neal could've helped a little
but I’m not convinced of Carter. I didn’t see much separation from him in the preseason. Plus their where too many holes in our gameplan to say it would’ve made a big difference. We might’ve only lost 34-14.
by Raider76 on Sep 12, 2008 5:08 PM PDT 0 recs
With Walker in the lineup
the Broncos would’ve been looking to shut him down no matter what to make a statement. This would’ve opened up better passing options on single coverage plays since they would double Walker.
Both teams, the Raiders and the Broncos, played without their best receiver. If we would’ve blitzed more than 3 times we might have won the game.
Carter never did anything in Carolina, and isn’t going to do anything here in Oakland. The signing of Ashley Lelie is the best thing that could’ve happened to us before the season started because he’s got speed and talent.
Let’s rock the Chiefs tomorrow Raiders!
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til' I die.
by thepunisher00187 on Sep 13, 2008 10:13 PM PDT 0 recs
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