went wrong last night…. It was all my fears about opening day relived once again…..
I’m thinking that Rob Ryan should have been fired after last season…. I don’t know… I like Kiff, but I’m sick of all the excuses and no fire on his part. Its way more than disappointing…

You guys took some good things away from that game too, though. Jamarcus Russel will be a good quarterback for you guys if he can get some protection, and it would be cool to see him and Jay have some awesome shootouts in the future. McFadden looks like an NFL running back. It didn’t hurt that he was getting 5 yards downfield before he got hit either. He’s got all the tools, and if you keep those two guys together with Zach Miller and pick up some WR depth, you’ll have a high-powered offense that will out up some numbers. Here’s to a rivalry renewed: hope you all bring your A game 11/23!

last night because I could already see cracks during the pre-season. I am just tired of excuses and Al Davis in general. Do not get me wrong, I love the Raiders, have been a fan since ’76, but the past 6 seasons (I am already including this one) have been nothing but HELL!!! I have not followed them except for catching up via the web. I have not even watched a game since 2003. In my opinion, the old bastard needs to exit for good. This franchise has lost EVERYTHING. From being the most feared to the door mats of the NFL is something I just cannot watch. I was thinking about going to see them play here in Miami, but after reading various articles about the game last night, I will not waste my money.

I will follow them from a distance and hope that I am proven wrong.

I do think a few calls were pretty bad that went against the raiders. Nothing to excuse the point spread, but some bad calls none the less.

On the other hand, there were two pretty bad face masks not called on oakland too. It all seems to balance out.

FWIW, as bad as oakland played, I think they have the ingredients to better their record by several games over last year.

Positives: Russel looked somehwat good, but definately needs more coaching and some WR to throw to that can catch.

D. McFadden and Fragus looked decent and obviously have home run ability; however, the ultra conservative game plan shows Kiffin’s lack of trust in the pass offense and until the Raiders can show they can pass the ball, everyone is going to load the box and dare the Raiders to go over the top.

But otherwise, as Denny Green said, “They are who we thought they were!” And raiders, you are now on the clock.

I saw many plays where Oakland O-lineman were tackling the Broncos D-line and the refs kept the flags in their pockets out of mercy for the Raiders, because that score could of easily been 49-0. Hall acted like a fool after getting the Royal treatment, and deserved the penalities.

blame the refs all the time….. that’s pretty much what we do when we lose…. blame the refs. I think Al spent a whole buttload of money this offseason, and until the Raiders start playing like they have been paying, the you can expect another high draft pick this next year…. J-Russ needed some protection, but I basically blame the secondary, the O-line, D-line and WR for this fat loss….. no excuses, they just didn’t play well…

Fire Kiffin? How about throwing him a torchlit parade for not quitting, and standing up to the Corpse? Your defense seems to lack accountability, and Kiffin is on the record as having tried to fire Ryan. The last time the Raiders had any credibility with me was with Gruden as coach… and Kiffin is the closest thing you will see to Gruden for a long time. What credible coach wants any part of that job? The last 25 years have been mostly good for my Broncos… and AL, his staff, and his team have been one of the motivating factors in the Broncos drive, especially since Shannie came to town. We need the Raiders! We have one of the most fabled rivalries in sports and that is a good thing that needs to be maintained… not killed off every year by Al’s schemes and impatient fans. As a Bronco fan, I feel your pain… been there, done that, as you well know = ) I am stoked to see my team turning it around… but the next thing I want to see is our division turn it around and become the powerhouse it has been in the past.
I enjoyed last nights game as much as anyone, but I really hope to see an improved Raider teams come to Invesco… within certain limits, of course. Good luck with KC = )
Oh, yeah… almost forgot…. Good post, Saint. Great perspective, for a Fader fan = )

I think you have the core of a decent team.

The seeds are there and now just need some sun and water and time to grow. Russell really had an okay game and McFadden looked like the real deal. You’ll need a better receiver than anybody on the current roster and that may be a focus of the upcoming draft.

I think it’s important that Kiffen is given the time and discretion necessary to build a successfull football team. Unfortunately, Davis may not have the wisdom or patience to let that happen. If that’s true, the raiders may not be a good football team again until Davis is no longer in the equation.

In response to the posters question about Russel’s fumble: it was either a fumble or a backward pass. Either way it’s Bronco’s ball.

We got beat, bad with that said I started to keep a record of ref screw ups….. here is a list till I threw up watching the Raiders (sic) D play.

1st Qtr

Raider 1st Series
-Raiders first series in Red Zone Hold not called on Bronco even announcers agree.

-Fumble by Russell Bronco jumped offside. Wasn’t his arm going forward?

2nd Qtr

-Raider first punt.. Why didn’t we see the TV replay of the Raiders downing the ball on the 1 yard line? The ball was ‘brought’ to the 20 yard line for the Broncos.

-at 6:37 Cutler sliding is allowed after being touched for a great spot.

-Hall penalty. If you twirl but don’t throw the player down it is a penalty.

-Next ‘late hit’ penalty after Bronco player slides on catch and could get up and run again you can only ‘touch’ him and not hit him to stop the play.

HALF

3rd Qtr

-Raider first series 12:11 Horse Collar tackle not called on Bronco.

I PUKE!!! Stop list….

And why wasn’t the Raider Logo in the Middle of the Field? Thank God it wasn’t for that game. Raider On, Raider Cool!

Weren’t u guys talking Super Bowl last week??.. LUL!
But hey, you may want to save some of those black tears for next week’s BATTLE FOR THE BASEMENT

“Those mean refs didn’t want us to win.(sob) Oh no is my makeup running??” -raitard nation

FYI The raiturds beat themselves in that game. All the “Kiff must go” people are as out of touch as old weird Al himself- who incidentally was the scariest looking fan in that stadium by far. Yikes.. Sounds like u guys deserve eachother.

Well I certainly don’t think coming here requires any bravery, whether its before during or after the game. No worries tho, I think maybe two people post/read here anyway..
I did get thru the entire game IN oak last year and made it out unscathed. Not the smartest idea I ever had, but that takes a little bit of bravery/stupid. I mean all those spikes and scary halloween makeup.. I could’ve easily been poked in the eye. Although it sounds like I prolly would have had a better chance of getting shanked after this year’s game. I do know how much pride u raitards have in your team, I seen it with my own TWO peepers. Last year you guys might as well have won the damn SB the way people were rejoicing after getting a win over a very mediocre Denver team.
Unfortunately (for you) last years game was an anomaly. And this “team” oakland fielded on Monday was destined for embarrassment well before the Broncos won. Deangelo Hall?$24M? srsly? I’m not claiming SB for the Broncos. I am able to objectively look at my team and see where it has certain deficiencies. I also didn’t come here to be a sore winner and rub in your face how bad your team is. So we can politely leave it at that (but I do have a few more cute pics of raiturd fans I’d be glad to share!). I’m merely trying to point out that you should not be ok with all this self-pity, whining about refs, and a bunch of enemy Bronco fans feeling sorry for you and trying to cheer you up. Amirite or AMIRITE?

 Saint, your putting the the blame on Kiffin to the point that you feel he should be the only one fired, and no one else is a sign of loyal blindness, not one of observing.
Did Kiffin look “uninterested”? Or did he have a look of a man that has no control of personal decisions, player and, as of now coaching staff, yet is held accountable for many decisions Al Davis makes?
Davis did it to Shanahan…to Gruden…and he’s doing it to Kiffin.
Saint Davis raised the Raiders to hights that we loved, but it is all in the past. Look at the present and observe. Your perception will change.