Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen

by Robby1987 on Jan 16, 2009 3:43 PM PST Comment 18 comments

both just got fired from the bucs. do you see ANY way al davis brings him back and do you see anyway that gruden or allen COME back? it worked well before so i got excited even though i kno its unlikely they would return to oakland.

speakin of GM's, i havnt heard anyword of them searching for a GM at all? i thought al wanted to give it a shot with a GM? have you guys heard anything about that at all?

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Al wants to

hire all his coaches first then draft his players then hire a GM and when it doesn’t work out fire the GM.

by Raider76 on Jan 16, 2009 4:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

do you see ANY way al davis brings him back and do you see anyway that gruden or allen COME back

Again when people leave Oakland, it’s never on good terms any more. So Davis won’t hire him back, and he won’t come back.

As for the GM. Well Davis is going to hire a “GM-type” person. But I think that’s another lie. Due to the fact we’ve hired a secondary coach, assistants, and no HC as of yet (all signs say Cable).

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Jan 16, 2009 5:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Watch Gruden

end up in Kansas City.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Jan 16, 2009 8:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

most likely

Silver and Black Pride: Where Bacon hating happens
Fear the Fin: Where Sharks cakes happen
Athletics Nation: Where Billy Bean happens
Pounding the Rock: Where otstanding happens
Rakes of Mallow: Where Brady Quinn happens
S&B Nation: Where lazy people have nothing better to do happens

by KA1Z3R on Jan 17, 2009 6:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

That would not shock me at all

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jan 17, 2009 7:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

The smart money is there

If we get the Herm sloppy seconds, I wouldn’t be surprised either

Play more Conan!

by oaklandSMASH on Jan 18, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I highly doubt

we’ll go after Edwards.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Jan 18, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Now that I think about it

though, KC has a GM and aren’t Gruden and Allen a package deal?

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Jan 17, 2009 3:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Interesting write up if Gruden and/or Allen could return. Apparently, Gruden isn’t upset any more w/ Davis.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Jan 17, 2009 3:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Don't want them back - especially Chucky

This has nothing to do with whether or not he gets along with Davis. Gruden’s problem is that his team have consistently sucked flaming donkey balls during the month of December, when playoffs are made or lost.
Here are Gruden’s December and January regular season records (team overall record):
1998: 1-3 (8-8)
1999: 3-2 (8-8)
2000: 2-2 (12-4) To this day, I want to puke whenever I see Tony Siragusa
2001: 2-4 (10-6) Losing the last three in a row meant the Raiders had to play the Patsies in Foxboro instead of in Oakland, and we all know how well that turned out.
2002: 3-2 (12-4) Won the Superbowl with Dungy’s defense and Callahan’s incompetence (not to mention Barret Robbins)
2003: 2-2 (7-9)
2004: 1-5 (5-11)
2005: 4-1 (11-5) This was Gruden’s only strong late-season showing.
2006: 1-4 (4-12)
2007: 2-3 (9-7)
2008: 0-4 (9-7) FAIL!

Overall last month of the season record for Chucky: 21-32
DO NOT WANT – give me a coach whose teams finish strong.

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Jan 17, 2009 6:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Tom Cable finishes strong!

(ha)

Good stuff, doctork. For a guy who likes to break down the seasons into four quarters, it seems strange that his teams would break down in the “fourth quarter”.

I'm here to talk about the past.

by 67MARQUEZ on Jan 17, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Thx, 67M

I’m still pissed about 2001 – Brady’s Tucking luck would not have happened in Oakland.

"However, at Elias, I think they keep track of the amount of sunflower seeds spit in a dugout each night." - Brad Ziegler, 8/7/08

by doctorK on Jan 18, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Gwen Knapp

reports that John Herrera made it clear that reconciliation was out of the question:

“We’ve been down that road,” he told Chronicle beat writer David White. “That would be reckless speculation to think that that would be any sort of a possibility.”

So, take that how you want, but it seems we won’t see Gruden in Oakland again.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Jan 18, 2009 4:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I don't think

Gruden would even want to come back to Oakland after Al Davis fired him for no apparent/good reason.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til' I die.

by thepunisher00187 on Jan 20, 2009 4:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Al Davis

did not fire him. Gruden wanted more money. He probably deserved it. Davis didn’t want to give him more money. So he traded him to TB for money and draft picks.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Jan 20, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep exactly

He definently deserved it after getting screwed in New England. We should’ve won that game and Tom Brady even admitted it was a fumble. I haven’t heard the “tuck rule” called in a game since that happened.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til' I die.

by thepunisher00187 on Jan 20, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs