Is It J-Russ or J-Bust? You Be The Judge Raider Nation:
It seems like the only time that we hear about our Raiders through the (East Coast) Main Stream Media, they are harping on JaMarcus Russell's weight, all night partying, inaccuracy, late throws, studiousness (Or Lack thereof), Bling Bling and his taste for mink coats.
In fact, in the eyes of the "Football Nation" outside of Oakland, and even some within our own ranks, JaMarcus is an Akili Smith/Ryan Leaf type bust. He received all of the money and has delivered a sub-Mantle of the Earth's performance on the field, in the classroom and in the locker room.
AND, they have a point...To an extent.
Russell's belly does seem to hang over his pants. He has been known to be out quite late in the Bay Area (And Elsewhere) party scene. His throws have been, at times, the least accurate I have ever seen from a "Starter" in the NFL. According to his Coach, Tom Cable, his study habits have been sub-par, until recently. Wearing his "Bling" on the field drives the entire Nation crazy when he can't complete a pass, yet, flaunts his wealth weekly.And, yes Nation, those mink coats need to be saved for a cold December Day when the team has a 10-2 record and is storming out of the East Coast/Midwest with a win.
Man...Have the (East Coast) Main Stream Media EVER had a bigger target than JaMarcus Russell to spew their Raider/Al Davis Hatred at?
Have you heard about him having three offensive coordinators in three years? Or, how about him being the youngest starting QB in the NFL before this year? How about the fact that he has two rookies and a Tight End in "Bracket Coverage" as targets. How about the loss of an O-Line? And how about the lack of an Offensive Coordinator this season? Or, how about his Head Coach, Offensive play caller and O-Line Coach being the same person. Not to mention that the only time in his life that his head coach had been a Head Coach and offensive coordinator his "College" Team had a sub .300 winning percentage?
Does any of that scream out, "Young QB put in a position to succeed"?
Now, they all want to talk about Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan. And they want to espouse until their hearts are content that JaMarcus is a bust and that Flacco and Ryan (Both older than JaMarcus) are the best young quarterbacks to come out in 10 years.
Unfortunately for us, and for JaMarcus we don't have the O-Line that Atlanta and Baltimore have. We don't have the receivers that they have and we don't have the young QB friendly system that they have. Nope, JaMarcus is expected to work from the shotgun on 80% of his plays, avoid the rush and find an open receiver who is running the wrong route, or at the very least, is running the right route and has not developed a chemistry with him yet.
What do you think Nation? Is he J-Russ or J-Bust?
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Wow another JaMarcus Russell post
maybe this site should change it’s name to the JaMarcus Daily News.
JaMarcus Russell may end up being a good quarterback and yes it would help if he had better players around him but his passes have been so inaccurate that his receivers would have to be 20 feet tall to catch some of them.
He needs to get his stuff together and make a decision on whether or not he’s willing to do what it takes to become a good NFL quarterback.
I’m rooting for him as I’m sure most Raider fans are but I’m low on hope at the moment.
One last thing about the whole oh the media hates the Radiers stuff. If you go back to when the Raiders were last winning earlier this decade they were getting good press all over the place. Gruden was on magazine covers that claimed he was the perfect coach.
The simple truth is the Raiders have been the worst team in the NFL the last 6+ years and the media coverage just reflects that fact. If they win they’ll get good press.
by sirbed on Oct 10, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
JMark is a victim!!!! I feel sorry that his receivers suck, coaches suck, and
media bashes him!! Can’t we all just give him a standing ovation and show all the love and sympathy the next time he rolls into Oaktown?! Please?!!!
by Bacon on Oct 10, 2009 3:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Its J-Russ
4 life. raiders fans back there players even if they suck because they are our players and they play as one and they give it there all. J-Russ is a baller if we could get him some more help on the line it would help! i wont join this bashing of J-Russ i refuse. go raiders!
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by Czheck on Oct 10, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so far i think you have no choice but to say J-Bust
he has done nothing to prove he is going to be a successful National Football League quarterback. Next year is his last year to prove it or we unfortunately are going to have to just move on to another one.
by jv52yankees on Oct 10, 2009 4:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
jr is a bust
jr is the ryan leaf russell , the next 4 games will show it and the raiders could be 1-7.
by sports with steve on Oct 10, 2009 4:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't help but sense you're making excuses for him, but I'll answer honestly regardless, and try not to be influenced by it
First off, all things considered, you can’t fairly call him a bust yet. The coaching changes, the lack of protection, the lack of receiver experience and depth and the ability to work together to help the qb, the drops, and everything tells us that he’s done well in lieu of all of it. Take out the disastrous offensive efforts this year, and he’s played very well, statistically better than some of the guys who are HoFers, like Troy Aikman, and in the future, Tom Brady. For Brady’s first few games he stunk; but he went on to win a SB, so who remembers?
To take it a step further, I believe he’s a victim of getting too much money, and very few can handle that kind of jack, and the celebrity that goes with being a number 1 pick in the game. Fact is, for the qb position, most experts will argue it is much better for a guy to be in a situation like Brady, being picked in a late round, and all odds being against them, thus making them prove themselves every minute of every day, and with the exception of Brady, to this day, every Patriot is expendable; every one.
The real reason Brady’s job is safe, is because he is the hardest working guy on the team, and among the top in the league. He instills confidence in his team, and provides leadership to the rest, and coaches, teammates, linemen, and skills players alike, even defense, play better because of it.
Which brings me to the things that bother me most about Jamarcus: He’s fat, bottom line. By no means will he ever be mistaken for being one of the hardest working players on the team. The late nights, the lack of dedication to getting better, the flossing the bling: all of these work counter to instilling confidence in teammates, and if that’s the kind of leadership you want on your team, you’ll have a team full of guys resting on their laurels, and not worried about getting better, or perhaps even being the best in the league at their positions.
It’s a fact, receivers have not been where there supposed to be, and have dropped way too many balls, often first down conversions and key plays. It’s also a fact that his line has been mediocre at best; they don’t work as a unit, nor has the WR corps, or the skills players (RB, TE, FB). The play callers for the line, the center have changed as often as the coaches, all of which factor into difficulties for any young qb, especially one who is actually really having his first year in the league, But it’s his fault and his alone that he took bad advice, held out, and missed on the most important aspects in football: dedication to becoming the best players they can be. It’s what separates the Joe Montanas from others. Tom Brady has that. Aaron Rodgers has it somewhat; and if you want to say someone has been put in a position of disadvantage, look at the shoes he had to fill. He was fortunate enough to sit his first years behind one of the best role models in the league—a guy who never missed games, worked his ass off, and reaped the benefits of a team that believed in him and wouldn’t trade him for anyone in Brett Favre.
Rich Gannon had it. All the ire Jamarcus draws from the media is well deserved. If he were working his ass off, at least some of those guys would be protesting in his defense. He doesn’t do what it takes, he responds with less class and bangs blame where you’d prefer he pointed the finger at himself, and actually looked bothered by letting his team down, mostly by not being the best leader he can be.
I feel bad for him because I feel the wealth and notoriety of being a number one pick for one of the most popular teams in the world (how we still are is beyond me!) is really more than most young kids can handle, and throw in all the other extraneous circumstances surrounding the team, the coaches, and almost zero chance of chemistry from a team, and you have a recipe for disaster, which is what we have.
I’m not willing to sell him down the road yet, or label him bust. I honestly believe he protects the ball pretty well. I can’t stand the way he misses guys when they seem the most wide open, putting in question if a winner ever does that. In listening to sound bites on NFL channel, Singletary was blasting Josh Morgan for dropping a sure TD catch entering the end zone. He told him, quite simply, “that is a play a great player makes.” Morgan went on to catch a difficult ball in double coverage in the end zone.
We don’t see that kind of interaction occur between Cable (that’s on him) and Russel. I truly believe under a leader like Singletary, a legendary guy and hard ass worker, We’d have known a long time ago if Jamarcus is a bust or he would ever live up to his potential.
It is a shame for a guy to have talent, and not live up to potential. Talent is a curse, because the Sam Mills, Steve Smiths, Tom Bradys, Mike Singletarys, Mike Ditkas, Walter Paytons, Todd Christiansens, Wes Welkers, Nnamdi Asomughas, Tyvon Branches would never emerge. All of these guys know they must work harder every day and be hungrier than the next guy to be the best at their respective positions.
We’ll all know soon if we can label him a Ryan Leaf or Akili Smith. I’ll wait until I have good reason for that, but I’ll remain critical of JRock for lacking leadership, partying all night, being fat, pointing fingers at teammates, and all the criticisms he so rightly deserves. You’d never find Drew Brees or Tom Brady, or Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco, ever being accused of any of these things.
He’s young, so let’s hope he can mature into possessing the traits that separate the greats from the busts. Adversity and trouble will continue to haunt him on this team, and no fan of the nation will question that, but he can be much better at the things that the greats did—namely lead by example—and can be the guy we paid to lift the performance of the players around him. As for now, it’s arguable if he doesn’t make them perform worse.
by brhynno on Oct 10, 2009 5:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Interesting post brhynno
I don’t agree with all of your points but I give you credit for laying them out in a well thought out manner.
At the end of the day we all hope JaMarcus can be the player we all hoped he would be but the clock is ticking on him and he needs to show some improvement this season.
I just hope that the Raiders can show some signs of life this year as they aren’t just bad right now they’re boring as well and that isn’t a very good combination.
by sirbed on Oct 10, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what don't you agree with? I'm interested
The guy would be a different guy if he put in the work. I’m not sure he does yet, nor if he ever will.
I do remain hopeful that he does. We all know he’s capable of huge plays; when he has a solid support staff, namely line and receivers, it’ll be a different game we see.
What happened to the guy who told the team at halftime against the Bucs last year, that they would win the game? I want that guy back!
I’m still behind Cable, but wonder if he’s the guy we need, and legendary like Singletary.
by brhynno on Oct 10, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with all of your points brhynno…..i heard today that maybe J Rus should be benched…for what who? Gradkowski? Frye? It only takes ONE…one guy to light the fire and it will spread in spite of al davis and his nonsense in the front office…winning cures..i cant believe we looked so great against san diego and have looked like absolute losers the rest of the year…was san diego just playing that poorly that night that we were able to play like we are playing now, but almost squeak out a win??? what happened from week 1 to the rest of the year? I live in Houston and went to the the Texans game and to see it in person is brutal…there is no fire on the sidelines after EACH and every three and out…nobody yelling and screaming, nobody pissed off, nothing…just.. no big deal….You know who shows that they care on this team by their play on the field? Lechler (and I a Texas longhorn fan till I die but Lechler is the man) and Jano…..yes Rus and the offense have issues but hell so does Detroit and at LEAST they are competitive…who gets 44 put on them today while only scoring 7? Russell was given way too much $$ I hated that he held out and it just goes to show that the league throws money at 21 year olds and where is the incentive to work harder? Rodney Harrison said it best that we are a place to come get a good paycheck….until Al loses majority ownership we are in a mire….i said years ago that we were setting ourselves up when we were on the super bowl run with the veterans…and we are still paying for those mistakes 7 years later….Im diehard till I die with my Raiders but it makes me sick to be the laughing stock when we actually have some talent on the team, hell we got Seymour for a steal, but a team that doesnt know how to nor wants to play together. As an avid Texas Longhorn fan, I sure as hell based on the current state of Da Raidahs, want Colt McCoy to get drafted by us…..as a fan I can say we are awful and only a miracle will pull us out of this mire….
by Juggman on Oct 13, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO J BUST
No, he is not J-Bust, but if he puts on anymore weight, then he may need a bra and we can call him J-Busty
I love JaMarcus. I love his character, demeanor, I like his swagger. Itruely hope he succeeds. i think Raider Nation has to develop some patience while he develops with his arsenal
by B.A.Armstrong on Oct 10, 2009 5:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
J-Russ Needs to grow up
Before Russell will ever become any kind of decent NFL qb he needs to grow up. Its so obvious that this guy has gotten way too caught up with the money and fame of being a NFL qb. I dont care what kind of job you have if your head is not in the right place you are not going to exceed. I dont know everything that goes on behind the scenes but I dont think Russell has his head fully in the game. So untill he pulls his head out his #@% and starts caring about his position its hard to say what he can possibly become. I also blame the coaching staff for not being able to get Russell to where he needs to be, physically and mentally.
by SAVAGEMATT on Oct 10, 2009 5:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One More Thing
Screw National Media
by B.A.Armstrong on Oct 10, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
x2
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Oct 10, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the best players, teams, and organizations
go about their business without being affected by media. I say screw ‘em too, but all JRock has to do is start making the plays necessary to win games. I think at the very least we have to give Jamarcus credit for handling criticism; we’ve seen other young players respond worse.
by brhynno on Oct 10, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
J-bust all the way
No doubt about it, he is a huge bust, like I said years ago when they drafted him.
by latin machismo on Oct 10, 2009 6:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
J-RUSS
It is hard for a veteran to throw to receivers when he is running for his life at every passing attempt, and to add to that not one rookie but two. I can understand maybe getting them experienced for next year and calling the cows home on this one. But in order to instill some confidence in himself I do not understand why they do not play the only veteran that they have and are paying a lot of money to Javon Walker. All I know is that he is in the dog house for his off season knee surgery and not letting Big Al know. You know how he did Marcus Allen. Pay him to ride the pine, not one year but a couple. This attitude by Al hurts the team because of his anger at a player that is ready to contribute. JR should have his growth stunted for spite when a veteran can come in and not only help JR’s confidence but be a leader for the rookies.
by darcraider on Oct 10, 2009 8:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Marc Wilson II
Does J-Bust remind R8da’ fans of Marc Wilson or Todd Marinovich? (Jeff George, etc..)
Great Arm, big, tall, etc…. But can’t get the job done in the NFL?
Why does Al limit himself to NFL Combine stats?
Just get some football players who can perform on the field.
PLEASE!
by R8rnation on Oct 10, 2009 8:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cornerstone RT
I think he should gain about 30 lbs are we are looking at our right tackle of the future, albiet an overpaid one.
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by BurtBlaze on Oct 10, 2009 10:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
J-Bust?
I am not sure if a bust can totally be said however all the crap about too many coaches, bad o line, weak receivers bla bla bla does not account for all of his play. if a number 1 pick can not adjust a pass to a receivers rout then i do not believe this is something that will get better. 5 yard passes to flat go into the ground 5 yards in front of the back????
The real confirmed bust is McFallen. I have watched nearly every raider game since he was drafted and i have seen him make only 5 people miss in the open field. he falls down on his own account almost every time he is in the open field trying to make cuts, he goes down with the slightest touch of a defender, and he gets hurt putting on his cleats.
I am a die hard raider fan since 1974 and i know this sounds hard but i call it as i see it. we have a great team in place but they will not gel if they do not feel they have a chance to win on the field and right now with J-Bust? they do not feel they have a chance.
by raidafan on Oct 11, 2009 9:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
J-Bust?
my bad, i think my wanting J-Russ to be successful clouded my vision. 1st 3 series vs Giants. BUST!
by raidafan on Oct 11, 2009 10:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BUST of EPIC Proportions
Al Davis should be removed from ownership. He’s old, can’t walk on his own, can’t judge talented QBs, is an evil human being, sues anybody and everybody, and I know he is getting what he deserves. I won’t attend to watch this low-life crap again, especially with a team with a QB without a brain and a heart. JaMarcus is a useless excuse of an athlete. How can anybody like this guy?
by Jraider on Oct 11, 2009 10:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
B-U-S-T
P. Manning wasn’t put in a position to win, in fact the colts were a bad team when he got there and they built the team around him. How about Stafford, do you think he was in a position to win? I know they only won 1 game but look at his stats, and don’t tell me Matt Ryan was going to a great team, the falcons weren’t good at all but they got a decent running back in Turner and the fact that Ryan could throw accuately opened the door for Turner to be able to run so whats with the Raiders since we have quality RBs? I’ll tell you, its the QB and the fact that he has a hard time even completing a screen pass so teams stop the run and blitz all day because there is no threat of getting beat by the passing game which is why the o-line isn’t playing well. I wouldn’t be on him at all if he even showed a little progress at being able to read a defense and the fact that the Raiders have to dumb down an offense because a 3rd year guy can’t get it, any good organization would have sat him down already and not for a game or two but for the rest of contract because he shows ZERO signs of ever being able to compete at the NFL level and you all can say how things aren’t in place for him to succeed all you want but when you have to run a basic high school/college offense because the main guy, the QB can’t get it, then it’s time to move on a look for someone who at least resembles a QB and can consistantly complete 50% of his passes.
by smalljaw on Oct 11, 2009 5:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
bust or not
it really doesnt matter at this point. the whole team is bad and it starts at the top with mr davis, on down to the coaching staff. they were talking about it on sunday night football in america. coach dungy was talking about how he advised vick not to come here eventhough he could probably start here. every player that comes here turns into a bad player. russell really hasnt been put in a position to win and who knows if he was on a different team (like the patriots) things would be different for him.
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by gametime_gsw on Oct 11, 2009 11:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
PLEASE bench Russell!
What is Cable or Davis thinking, or I forgot…they are not thinking about the team nor the fans…it’s all about them. I have had it….Cable will be gone, not soon enough for me. But then who will we have coach the team? Davis runs off all the GREAT Coach’s and PLAYERS!
Teddi Erwin
by r8der on Oct 12, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
B U S T - Either Get rid of him or all the Raider Nation FANS
What is it going to take before we get our TEAM back? This is not rocket scientist here. This is the same ol’ story of AL DAVIS, and please, somone blogged…Mr. Davis? that would indicate a man of respect!
Teddi Erwin
by r8der on Oct 12, 2009 2:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
QB RATING
Russell is a bust someone has to take the bull by the horn and tell him shape up or ship out lets take the hit money wise now and get someone who wants to play and be a better ball player not one who is there for the money and himself. Id sit him down not even dress him and let himsit out the rest of his time in oakland on the bench maybe if he sees the end of his playing days he might use his head and shape up
by deerfield fan on Oct 13, 2009 7:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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