Silver and Black Pride's Post Game Community Poll: The Bloodletting
Everything has been pretty much said on this blog already regarding yesterday's Raiders massacre at the hands of the Giants. So how about just a quick poll of what you think will be the storyline with this team by the time their bye week rolls around.
The Raiders are currently in the midst of the most grueling part of their schedule, and if it can be imagined, they are faring worse than expected. I have a hard time believing that if the Raiders go into their bye week at 1-7 that it will be calm and business as usual. Something's gotta give, either the players stand up and account for themselves, become resilient and get it together, or there will be an implosion wrought with a media and fandom meltdown.
Let it out Nation! What do think is going to be the Raiders storyline(s) come their bye week?
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As bad as Russel as been
It is hard to even evaluate him when our O-Line can’t block and receivers can’t run their routes right. On the rare occasion where those to go right, Russel misses the target or the receiver drops the ball. If we don’t draft offensive line in the first three rounds of the draft this year, there needs to be a sanity check in the front office.
…week 5 and i’m already talking draft…this just sucks.
by markdog333 on Oct 12, 2009 7:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm still holding on to our season.
as much as i hate to admit, i didn’t expect much from us against the giants. top 3 team against a bottom 5 team will probably be not fun too watch.
but i still think we can pull it through! they need chemistry with russel(the WR’s), and we have to play turnover free football. our defense needs to come out of their shell and start playing like san diego. they need to be physical, and have that swagger back!
i don’t want to see them play as if they’re giving up. that’s not how a re-building team should act. bring you talents and win some games!
by patriotguy2 on Oct 12, 2009 8:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Whaaaaat ?
You still think we can “pull it through?” Are you retarded or are you a monkey banging on the keyboard. What game were you watching? The Raiders are gonna get crushed by the Eagles this week by at least 30 points !!!!!! I tell you what I’ll spot you 20 points and ill bet you $500
by RocklinRaiderfan on Oct 12, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SERIOUS
that was the first game i got to see. 1st half only because thank whoever switched the game in the second half. my raiders suck. another long miserable season. i know there are fans on here who were excited about the season. having Cable as teh head coach. wake up. this is not only a bad team but a disaster of a franchise.
by HALO_86 on Oct 12, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just want to throw this out.
i believe mcfadden is a great RB, but i haven’t seen too much plays from him that should be expected of him.
Rankin and russel(gary) seem to have more chemistry looking at the pre-season than mcfadden does, and they seem to have all the tools RB’s need to be great.
what would you guys think if we start rankin and/or russel over mcfadden? McFadden as wildcat option?
i’m probably just being stupid.
by patriotguy2 on Oct 12, 2009 8:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
McFadden
McFadden was a great raw talent….in the hands of a knowledgable and well-disciplined coaching staff he could have been a star….I think Peter King alluded to this a week or 2 ago. If you pick a perfect grape from a vine and know what to do with it you can make an award-winning wine…..or if you don’t know what to do with it, it is just a grape and it will wither and be nothing…..McFadden is the grape, and to his demise, the Raiders are the winemaker.
by whyraiderswhy on Oct 12, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i say trade mcfadden
for some oline help or draft picks i bet that the bengals would love to have DMC and we need the rt that andre smith is going to replace
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."
by TheAutumnWind on Oct 12, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems like a fair trade
but they drafted smith for a reason, and cedric is doing great so far.
by patriotguy on Oct 12, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how you can say McFadden is a great running back
what has he done in the NFL to prove that? He has thin legs,he seems to be injury prone and he doesn’t have either the ability to make more than one cut or great break away speed.
I’ll take Michael Bush at 25 rushes a game over McFadden any day.
by sirbed on Oct 12, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 more thing
McFadden loves to fumble
by RocklinRaiderfan on Oct 12, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McFadden had these same problems in college. You would think he would try to improve his body for he wasn’t injured all the time.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 13, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except that
Rankin is now a Seahawk.
(Who needs to be playing in place of the useless Edgerrin James)
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
Next year's notable Ex-Seahawks:
Walter Jones, Patrick Kerney, Seneca Wallace
by Wayward Llama on Oct 15, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe Rankin is on the
Seahawks roster now, so that is academic. Please explain why Fargas gets 12 carries averaging 1 yd. a carry and Bush gets an equal amount averaging 3 yds. I am starting to believe that Cable is responsible for much of what is going wrong, why is he calling plays? They are presently unwatchable, thank god, this week will be a blackout, as will the following week’s game.
by Laoren on Oct 12, 2009 9:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Red Zone
Even worse, why in the hell would the Raiders ever, ever consider running Fargas in the red zone, especially when you have Bush!?
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
by TheRaiderWay on Oct 12, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazed
I started watching the Oakland Raiders when I was a little guy; thus far into my half century of existance I have never seen this Organization in such a condition. It appears we can’t play, we can’t learn and we can’t coach but the most bothersome issue is we can’t manage, we can’t draft even though there has been exception talent on the board when we pick on more than one occassion. We really need new ownership/management or the team will continue down this path of ineptitude at ALL levels. We have some truly great talent on the squad, just not where confidence rises and sets…in the front office.
"The Secret to Immortality is to have first lived a Life Worth Remembering..." -- Bruce Lee
by Axe on Oct 12, 2009 9:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
True that !!!
It’s like whatever we do just doesnt work. Whoever we get doesnt amount to anything.
by RocklinRaiderfan on Oct 12, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its really hard to point a finger at one person
but “the fish rots from the head on down”… and Al Davis isnt going anywhere unless St. Peter’s calling
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 12, 2009 9:45 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
In only a few words,
You have accurately summed up the Raider’s problems and prognosis. Highly Rec’d.
by guapobob on Oct 12, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time Machine.....it is 2011
In 2011 where is Jamarcus Russell?…..he is exactly where I knew he’d be the day the Raiders drafted him….he is home counting his money and out of football. A horrible horrible pick. If on that fateful day the Raiders found someone, and there were a few teams looking to trade up, to take their pick in exchange for a couple lower picks and a pick the following year, the Raiders would probably be at least competitive now instead of a disgrace beyond what the Lions were last year. I told everyone I knew when the Raiders picked Russell that he would be going the Vince Young route…a bust, a waste of millions….he has no heart, he has no interest in winning….I’ll take a guy with half the supposed talent and a big heart over some lug with none. In August I told everyone I knew “the Raiders are going to smarten up and Jeff Garcia will be their starter, just wait”….then a few days later they cut Garcia and it was at that moment that I knew the Raiders season would just be one embarrassment after another….and so it goes. It is solid proof that Al Davis has lost his mind…..how can he go out in public? how can he wear Raiders garb and have pride? Even the most diehard Raiders fans cringe each week when they wake up on Sunday morning wondering what horrendous embarrasssment awaits the day. I have been a Raiders fan since 1974 but being one has taken all the fun out of watching football the past few years….fortunately I am a fan of the NFL as a whole, so it is okay, but I can’t watch a Raiders game anymore. speaking of 1974, if Ken Stabler or Jim Plunkett are looking for a few extra bucks…..the Raiders have an opening….hopefully soon. Couldn’t be worse.
by whyraiderswhy on Oct 12, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I here ya
The 70’s truly were the golden era for the NFL. That was when the game wasn’t overburdened with rules and most importantly, money was only the 2nd most important thing to the players.
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
by TheRaiderWay on Oct 12, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
admire you
I admire your ability to say “your team is your child” in your signature….I’ve known many fans of teams that stick with them through thick and thin….unfortunately it just seems that there are no rays of hope to help guide fans through the Raiders darkest days…no great young QB that looks like the future of the franchise, no great young coach that is rebuilding his program, no owner committed to making the right moves, not even many hardened veterans giving it their all. Even the most level-headed sports columnists can’t find anything good to say….
by whyraiderswhy on Oct 12, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Golden Era? How so?
imo… Just cause player safety is now becoming a concern doesnt detract from the modern game which this game has evolved from. Football, like many other sports in America evolve once it reaches certain level of popularity, especially when MONEY is involved. Science then takes a very big part into athletes progress whether it be diet, personal or professional gain. Science actually affects sports more then Money, IMO.
I do agree with you, that when you subtract that value of money from sports then the athletes are purely %100 motivated by Winning or %100 afraid if Losing.
Take for example the sport Mixed Martial Arts. Initially, fighters were coming from all shapes and sizes and discipline. Then fighters began to evolve by mixing disciplines, adding diet and the sport began to regulate itself, not because the sport was becoming weak but for the safety of these individuals who participated for pure joy of competition. Still to this day, not all fighters make huge paydays but continue to work towards it one day.
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 12, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Garcia was not the answer, I don’t think peyton could look good on this team. I dont even think they practice it looks as if they just show up to the game on Sunday. Its on thing to lose but to lose the same way every week is like saying I don’t care.
by Micheal Y on Oct 12, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And where will the Raiders be on draft day, 2010?...
…Probably making another horrible, horrible pick (probably a speed-burner who can’t catch).
by GregA on Oct 12, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
“It is solid proof that Al Davis has lost his mind…..how can he go out in public? how can he wear Raiders garb and have pride? "
Al thinks it’s 1977, that’s how.
by GregA on Oct 12, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In 2011
Russell is probably a back up or out of football.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 13, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll still be in Oakland.
He has a 6 year contract.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Oct 14, 2009 4:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope
The Lions are now a competitve team just one year removed from 0-16….The Chiefs show signs of hope with a good young QB and some solid games….the Browns have been competitive in some of their games and beat a team in the Bill sthat some thought were wildcard bound at the start of the season….the Redskins show some sign of hope now and then….the Bucs, they have some stars on a teram that at least knows it has to rebuild….the Raiders?….if they disappeared from the NFL tomorrow a handful of players would land on other teams but they wouldn’t be missed except for a few automatic wins on division opponents schedules….can it get any lower? Can Al Davis see some ray of hope that nobody else can? Was Al Davis watching last night when Trent Dilfer proclaimed the Raiders as the worst team he’s ever seen in all his years watching the NFL? If he was watching, did that upset Al or has his brain lost it’s ability to register? Someone please tell Al Davis, the king, that he is not wearing any clothes. for the past few years the Raiders new slogan was “A Committment to Mediocrity”…now, fans long for the days of mediocrity.
by whyraiderswhy on Oct 12, 2009 10:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
they finally lived up to the Matt Millen mistake, and when they parted ways, they began the road to a new team
Unfortunately for us, the guy that’s the Matt Millen in this organization is the leader, and the one who will continue to take us down this road.
It doesn’t and can’t get any lower or worse. We’re committed to spectacularly shitty. Excellently Bad? Committment to Excellence in being horrible?
There’s no poetic way to say it, A lot of folks will stay home this Sunday. Too many fans invest too much all week long, all offseason, late nights before the games to have their Sundays ruined time and time again.
I’m a die hard fan of the game, but it’s becoming harder and harder to watch. It’s as if the only guys that could save us now are guys with whom Al has burned bridges.
It’s comical when people mention Cowher, Gruden, Dungy. What self respecting coach would take on this team, knowing they will continue to completely ignore needs every draft?
by brhynno on Oct 12, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Youre right
Well I’ll tell you what….i’m staying home for sure. You know in my heart i want to go to a game. But I just cant bring myself to support them right now. It is a bad product and I can’t pay money to see it.
Well I guess I could pay the parking, tailgate just to people watch and then just leave when the game starts.
Wait a minute how much is parking these days……forget it !
by RocklinRaiderfan on Oct 12, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sadly...
…Davis will respond to the pathetic state of his team by firing Cable, and bring in…what?…the 7th coach in 7 seasons, or something like that? Not that Cable probably doesn’t deserve it, but, MR. DAVIS, THE CANCER IN THIS ORGANIZATION IS YOU!
by GregA on Oct 12, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think i is the whole team yesterday I saw a high school team out there. I use to be able to say at least the pass defense is good they sucked too now. I think they need to fire everyone and start over. The defense give you the same look ever time they line up I watched them play man defense on 3 and a mile the d line never uses stunts they just try to beat the man in front of them. Do they even practice during the week no one is even changing the way they play agianst them they just run off tackle and the linebacker over run play. they never rush more than 4. I can’t think of one good thing about them
by Micheal Y on Oct 12, 2009 10:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cable won’t be arrested until the end of the season. Even if he is arrested he can easily get out on bail. Al Davis likes this drama so this won’t be the reason why he is fired or else it would have already happened. Davis may fire him and put Hacket in his place but that is career suicide for Hacket or anyone wishing to coach in the NFL. Oakland is a death sentence to any career as evidence over the last few seasons.
The Raiders will go into their bye week at 1-7, and should finish the season 1-16. If they do manage a win it I think it would only happen against the Browns. KC will get us the next go around as they are starting to show some life. We shouldn’t have beat them anyways because they really outplayed us. My guess is that the Browns will have put something together by then and will pull out with a horrible win. We play the Ravens the last game which might be a good thing because they should have already locked up a playoff spot. But I don’t have faith that we can beat back ups as we proved yesterday with the Giants. Chances are the Ravens will have their starters in anyways because they will be in a playoff fight do to the strength of their division.
I doubt Davis will fire Cable this season because he took a ton of heat last year for the Kiffin experiment. More or less, Davis made himself out to look like a dumbass!
Russell will be benched by the bye week only because the media and fan pressure will be to much. The fans are already on the path of revolting and Russell is booed at every home game. You can only subject a player to this madness for so much before they crack (see Vince Young). Russell is on the road, but I don’t think Russell really cares and Vince Young did.
by Faiders420 on Oct 12, 2009 10:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"More or less, Davis made himself out to look like a dumbass! "
What has changed?
by GregA on Oct 12, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
tom cable
The napa police and the D.A will wait until the Raiders season has ended and that will be within the next few games. Meanwhile Al davis will be bringing in another figure head coach who will open the door fornAL AND GENERALLY CALL THE PLAYS AL SENDS IN. Because there is not anyone in the league with sense that will work for Al Davis, for the sake of the Raider nation and the hard work of so many, Al just RETIRE.
by trusniper on Oct 12, 2009 11:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cable won't be fired
He is as crazy as Al. Al will do another Press Conference to show support to his head coach, which will be worth weeks of entertainment for the rest of the world and source of shame to the Raiders and their fans.
Do you wonder why Seymour kicked and screamed about going to Raiders? The Raiders are run by Jack Skellington, and coach by a truck driver.
Roger Goodell would do the NFL a favor by taking Operational Control away from Al, sort of like what happened to Marge Schott and the Reds.
The sun will shine in '69
by gaclaudy on Oct 12, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh...
I’ve been a Raider fan for 27 years, and this might be the lowest I’ve felt. I thought we might have a chance of proving everyone wrong after a good showing against the Chargers and a narrow win against the Chiefs, but we are awful. I love Al Davis, he has changed the game of football and is a Hall of Famer, but he is just killing this team now. It makes me mad that across the bay the Niners have an awesome Coach who is changing the losing culture and is motivating his players to overachieve. I know that it won’t happen in Oakland because Davis wouldn’t allow it to happen. Can you imagine if Singletary was our coach? He would have whooped Jamarcus into shape or kicked him out. Look at what he did with Vernon Davis…
I tried to justify the Heyward-Bey pick, but what does another raw talent guy give us at this point? We suck, and we’ll probably mess up this coming years draft. Is it bad that I’m already envisioning Colt McCoy as our future QB?
I think I have been one of the most optimistic Raider fans, but at this point I see no hope. Something needs to change, i.e. Al Davis needs to give up the reigns. If he doesn’t we won’t be able to get a high profile coach because no one wants to work under him.
We can’t pass the ball, which means we are 1 dimensional and teams are loading up the box, which takes away our ability to run. We can’t stop the run, We can’t stop the pass, and can we get a freaking Coach who will stop us from getting STUPID PENALTIES! My whole life I feel like we have been shooting ourselves in the foot with penalties.
We need a new QB, an experienced WR, a more tough OL, and more depth at DL. That is way too much to fix….sigh
by BoJackson on Oct 12, 2009 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't even be mad at the Niners. I'm stoked for 'em
and love whenver a legend like Singletary blesses the league with his presence and makes it better.
You’re totally right about him jettisoning useless cargo, and guys would either improve or be released. But he wouldn’t coach under Al because Al wouldn’t relinquish that kind of control.
by brhynno on Oct 12, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone watching
cables presser?
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 12, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No what happened?
The sun will shine in '69
by gaclaudy on Oct 12, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
injury update
chaz day to day.. DMC is out … gallery day to day… henderson is fine…
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 12, 2009 2:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
cable says
“we need to practice better”
excuses!?!
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 12, 2009 2:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he's using
last week’s game against the Texans as an example of good defense… who care about last weeks game you idiot!!
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 12, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
god he was terrible
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by gametime_gsw on Oct 12, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Double Sigh...
I have lived life as a Raider fan for 30 some odd years now and have watched all the trials and tribulations throughout. I have never been and never will be a “band wagon jumper”, my wife always says “how can you stick with them when they are so bad, why not just get a new team?” I have always told her, they’ll get better, they’ll get better. I gotta tell you it is getting harder and harder to maintain this thought.
We have so many issues right now, things like: (in no particular order)
1. Al Davis
2. Coaching
3. Offense
4. Defense
5. Special teams
6. Water boys
Seriously, I will never, ever leave the Raider Nation, but it sure is hard to hold my head up very high right now. Its hard to look your friends in the eye and always say “yea, but think about the great draft pick we’ll have next year….”, like it is a sign of success.
Raiders Forever
by BleedssilverandBlack on Oct 12, 2009 2:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do I feel like its something I'm being punished for?
Am I the only one? 30+ years too, and I think week after week that at least it can’t get worse, yet somehow it does, and things look ever more bleak for the future.
It’s like being a Raider fan is a character flaw now, something I’m feeling ashamed of or something. I could never jump on a bandwagon, or stop being a fan either, but watching games has become seriously painful.
A newcomer to the site yesterday asked, “is anyone else crying inside?” I’m ready to straight up cry! Seriously, what could really happen now that will right the ship, and how realistic are those options? I love the league, but don’t even really have a second favorite team. I respect a lot of them, though.
by brhynno on Oct 12, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Being a Raider fan isn't much fun at the moment but
I’ve been a fan since birth basically and I couldn’t stop being a fan even if I wanted to.
Yesterday’s game against the Giants didn’t make me go crazy because to be honest I’ve lost any hope that this team can win this year.
Al Davis loves his phrases and one of them is how he claims the Raiders have the best players and the best coaches and I think we all know this is nowhere near being true.
JaMarcus Russell is the worst starting quarterback in the NFL. Tom Cable was an 11-35 head coach in college who wouldn’t be hired by any NFL or Div 1 college to be a head coach.
John Marshall is an old journeyman coach as is Paul Hackett and Ted Tollener. The offensive line is beyond awful and the reveivers outside of Miller are the worst in football.
When you add it all up the Raiders are maybe the biggest mess in the NFL and as long as our 80 year old owner refuses to bring in good football people to help him the future is not bright.
by sirbed on Oct 12, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come talk to me after 100 years
I’m a Cub fan.
The sun will shine in '69
by gaclaudy on Oct 12, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Play fantasy football
It doesnt make you a non-raiderfan. It just makes the season fun when hope is gone by week 4
by RocklinRaiderfan on Oct 12, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can deal with good players not playing well. I'll stick with them.
I can deal with bad players who try their best. I’ll stick with them. I can even deal with talentless malcontents who stink up the field all season. I’ll stick with them.
But when the owner/general manager refuses to make any changes, throwing out 1970’s ideas and hoping they’ll stick, I get frustrated. When the product on the field is overshadowed by all of the ridiculous antics that go on in the front office, making us the laughingstock of the league, I run out of excuses. And when the management spends a decade making unbelievably boneheaded moves, where literally every front office action leaves me yelling at my TV, I stop caring.
Congratulations, Al Davis. I love the Raiders. But I just don’t think I can do this anymore.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
by danmerqury on Oct 12, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
1970's ideas?
I don’t know I was thinking more like 1967.
by sirbed on Oct 12, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok fellas first to dispell the Non-sense, you Keep McFadden, Bush and Rankin
now that we have that out of the way. The Raiders will not have a chance to win a game until we take J-Russ out of the line of fire until he is ready. I may have said that before…Ohh Bench DHB…He is NOT ready either.. Lets see, other than that, lets play football, there are no other changes to make at this time.
by Rodney Sacramento on Oct 12, 2009 3:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Javon Walker should be playing over DHB every week
@worldblee on Twitter.
by worldblee on Oct 12, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah but he has been BLACKBALLED!!!
I guess Al and the coaching staff were REALLY pissed off about that knee surgery thing! Dont expect Javon to ever see the field as a Raider again… Marcus Allen anyone?
by Oaktizzle on Oct 16, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
al davis
ive been a raider fan for 30 plus years and will always be but i have to say mr davis was a great leader at one time now i dont think he has a clue how to run this team anymore, there is no magic salution to the raiders problems this year and im tired of watching our team perform on such a low level in almost every area with the exception of the kickers wich by the way was the only good draft pick in the last ten or so years by mr davis. we have very good talent on this team but its like anything in life without disipline or structure you fail.
by FISHERS on Oct 12, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kickers weren't the only good draft picks
In fact, they were a stretch because taking Sebastian in the first round was unwarranted; he would have been available in the next round. Nnamdi has actually been our best 1st round pick by far, and we’ve gotten other good players like Brandon Myers, Justin Miller, Michael Bush, Chaz Schillens, etc. in later rounds. Most of our first round picks are horrible, though, I agree. And that includes JR.
@worldblee on Twitter.
by worldblee on Oct 12, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just loving making a killing betting against them! EVERYONE covers the spread against the Raiders! This is easy money!!
by G M on Oct 12, 2009 3:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard that
I’m betting against them too. Shiit the eagles should win by at minimum 20 points. We might as well make some money to take the sting away.
by RocklinRaiderfan on Oct 12, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FBI arrests man posing as Al Davis
The FBI shows up at Raiders headquarters and arrests an imposter who’s been posing as Al Davis the past six years. At a press conference an FBI spokesman tells the stunned audience Al Davis had actually passed away in 2003 and this imposter has been using his indentity ever since. FBI also reveals Tom Cable was in on the scam.
by Older_than_Moses_Shaq on Oct 12, 2009 4:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
as a fan of the raiders, i hate to see them lose game to game
i go into the game thinking that the raiders will have a chance to win it. but being a raider fan has been tiring over the last few years is hard. right now, i’m not comfortable with how our team is offensively, and some defensively. the talent we’ve been getting has not been helping over the last few years, and we can’t rely on the first rounders to get us a winning team. which leads to some draft talk.
first, our offense already has above average running backs, but that’s it. we need to get some draft picks for next year, and start drafting team needs that revolve around what the offense is trying to accomplish.
1) RT or LT: we need someone to protect russel’s blind side against elite pass rushers. get a tackle who has size and footwork with a great attitude to build chemistry with the other lineman
2) WR: I didn’t expect hey-bey to be great ever since we drafted him. when i heard he had trouble with his routes and hands, i thought he didn’t fill the need for an elite receiver for russel. ALL he has is speed. we need someone who is a great route runner, and has GREAT hands, and someone russel ca depend on. murphy and schilens has that, but i see murphy in the slot, and we need someone who can be elite opposite of schilens who can make the catches.
I think russel will be more noticed(along with his runners) if he has the correct talent that fits HIS needs. with an arm like his, you NEED someone who can CATCH! and not just have speed. jerry rice ran a 4.50 at his combine after all.
On defense, i think we have the pieces there but we just need that LITTLE something to get it going.
1)DT or DE: we need a BIG playmaker in the middle with kelly, or opposite of seymour. for DT, we need mostly just need a BIG fella who also has speed, like our own wilfork(6’1" 300 something pounds). pressure up the middle is crucial in our(raiders) defense, and is the most devastating. For DE, we need someone who can do both pass rush, and have the vision to stop the run. someone with speed will be nice, but strength is the most important, along with vision.
2) LOLB or CB: i don’t know which is more important; a nickel corner, or a strong-side LB. maybe strong side LB so when someone runs towards the left side, we can have someone who has the vision, speed, and tackling ability to pursue. but being smart is the most key aspect to any LB. i think we can find a nickel corner in FA.
Right now, i think we should try to go for the 3-4 next year. there’s a chance that we might have the personnel next year and if we do, i say go for it. we can disguise blitzes, and teams will have more trouble passing down short-mid range with more LB’s in the middle. not to mention OLB in a 3-4 are supposed to be specialized in pass rushing. I ca see a 3-4 with us. even with someone as smart as kirk morrison might make the transition easily.
our team at the moment has a mess of talent, and i believe the reason why we’re not performing well is because that our talent does not go well together. j-russ has a strong arm, but no receivers have great hands to catch such a strong arm(besides schilens and maybe murphy. Miller if want to count TE’s). neither j-russ or mcfadden have a dependable o-line. they have a running attack, but they cannot establish that well at the moment due to o-line run blocking, and run the whole game. we need to get talent that can compliment another player with talent, that can compliment another player with talent, and so on and so forth. make each talent compliment another, and not have a single talent being displayed on each play.
by patriotguy on Oct 12, 2009 5:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was there....
and it was worse than it looked on TV. I’m trying to figure out how a QB can fumble 3 times and stay in the game. I’m trying to figure why the starting QB is still in when the score was 31-7 at the half. The team has no fire. They don’t play with any passion. Let’s face reality, if some of us haven’t: the season is done. My fiancee (who is a Giants fan) told me that Eli would be sitting by the half. She told me this when we were on our way to the game! Sad, sad, sad. That’s the way this team looked, and that’s what this team is: just plain sad.
by tbone64 on Oct 12, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Did people feel sorry for you or what ? If i was a Giants fan i would have treated you to a beer.
by RocklinRaiderfan on Oct 12, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice pass
Did you see that pass by Sanchez? Russell couldnt do that if his life depended on it. And to think he only has 4 games under his belt.
by RocklinRaiderfan on Oct 12, 2009 7:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The idea...
The idea…. …that Russell is still a green QB, that he needs to be benched and learn by observing for the rest of the season, is a myth that has been exploded the past two weeks by Chad Henne of the Dolphins. Last week, Henne’s first start and full game, he completed 14 of 22 (63.6% completion rate) for 115 yards, one TD, no interceptions, for a QB rating of 92.0. Tonight, on MNF, he was 20 of 26 (76.9%), for 241 yards, two TD, no interceptions, for a rating of 130.4…in his second full game. Here’s a young untested QB coming off the bench, and performing.
This tells me that something is either wrong with Russell that he’s still struggling, or something’s wrong with the coaching on the Raiders, or both. (Or, maybe the offensive line, or lack of one.) But whatever the reason, it’s interesting that a guy can come off the bench in Miami and start winning within two games, and the jury is still out on Russell.
by GregA on Oct 12, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Youre right !
Chad Henne is already better than Russell. Hell even though Mark Sanchez lost he stil put up more points than we will get in a game all year. Well we will see or not see(Blackout) later this year when the jets clown the hell out of us on our own home turf.
Sanchez is gonna have a monster game and Russell should be embarrased !!!
by RocklinRaiderfan on Oct 13, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Post Giants game rant......
How is Cable qualified to call the offensive plays? It’s too much for most head coaches, he ain’t no genius or guru, he looks lost, like he’s making it up as he goes along. The offense is pathetic, predicable, and boring. When I see his idiot face on the tv screen I just want to hit something. How did he get the promotion from offensive line coach to head coach in the first place? I don’t remember having an outstanding offensive line, all I remember is the same stupid penalties year after year.
Fargas, does he even look for holes? It seems like he’s running with his head down and just runs into the first tackler. Not an NFL quality player. What is Cable looking at?
JR is just too bad for words. Why not pull him when you are already down by 28? What have we got to lose? How can we evaluate the offense with one dubious QB? On the sideline JR seems much more concerned that his hat is on just right, rather than talking to other players/coaches. When he went down on a “phantom sack” during the Chiefs game that may have been the sign that his career won’t amount to much. When Jim Everett (Rams) went down like that, with no one touching him, that marked the end of his career.
WR’s we need at least one sure handed veteran, you just can’t go with all rookies, speed isn’t everything, you still need to catch the ball.
On Defense the stupid penalties killed them, twice on the first drive they had the Giants in 3 and long and let them off with the usual offside calls, etc. Every year the hard count fools ’em, I have never seen another team fall for that time after time.
by Oceanside Raider on Oct 12, 2009 8:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
Chad Henne is better than Jamarcus Russell….What a disgrace
by RocklinRaiderfan on Oct 12, 2009 8:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My only hope...
My only hope for this season is a dramatic event (i.e. Al Davis’s private plane crashing into Cable’s house) that injects some passion into our lifeless Raiders. I live in New York so this week has been extremely difficult. I found myself rooting for the Giants defense, hoping they would take him out for the season. Instead we took Eli out by handing out 28 straight points….doesn’t that equal our season total TD’s? As a long time Raiders fan the only ray of light is the ever dependable Janikowski, sadly after week 5 still our leading scorer. Here to hoping Skeletor gets sucked into the Black Hole along with his trophy QB
by silvernblackforever on Oct 12, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The only thing....
that the Raiders organization has going for it are the fans. I don’t think you can find any fans who are more loyal to their team, regardless of how dysfunctional the owner keeps things.
by tbone64 on Oct 13, 2009 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Al Davis is a Cancer
Face reality, Raider Nation. Al Davis is the constant the past 7 years. He has lost touch with the NFL. He has no idea how to pick a QB and no idea how to draft linemen. His downfall began when he had to show Marcus Allen who was boss. What kind of man would do this? A low class snake-in-the-grass. He had the world at his feet, but his reality told him to leave Oakland for LA. It turned out to be a fatal move, and it’s been downhill ever since. Al Davis is the only CANCER in the organization. I hope all Raider fans who have support the TEAM in spite of this bum, stop! I already paid up for this season, but I am finished until a new owner comes in to try to win football games. Not some egotistical jerk that is more interested in lawsuits and messing with people’s minds than winning football games.
by Jraider on Oct 12, 2009 11:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When I went to the Sunday massacre at the Meadowlands...
I had Giants fans offering-no, begging me- to switch teams. They said there’s no shame in it. That was the longest ride home. Me and my girlfriend and her cousin drove up from DC to see this game (they are Giants fans). I would have preferred to ride the Raiders plane back to Oakland than to go through the drive back.
by tbone64 on Oct 13, 2009 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel your pain
I live near Syracuse, NY and have a Giants fan AND an Eagles fan living in my house. Both are very strong supporters of thier teams. Life was rough last week and the traumas continues this week. I now understand the intrinsic connection between lots of beer and football.
by silvernblackforever on Oct 13, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al Davis is a miserable human being
How does one live being the most hated person in his universe? I think only John Madden believes in this old tyrant. Why? What owner would trade his best Head Coach in 20 years for cash? Al Davis. Which owner would trade one of the best receivers in NFL History for a 4th round draft pick? Al Davis. Which owner would blame everybody but himself for bad decisions? Al Davis. Which owner would draft a kid 7th overall that he could have picked up much later? Al Davis. Which owner would draft a kid in the 2nd round that he could have drafted in the 5th round? Al Davis. Which owner would pay Javon Walker a boat load of cash and sit him for no good reason? Al Davis. Notice a pattern fans. Al Davis is a LOSER!
by Jraider on Oct 12, 2009 11:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You're right...
unfortunately, aside from being a five letter word like loser, he’s also another five letter word: OWNER! When does this all end?
by tbone64 on Oct 13, 2009 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully a new QB vs. Eagles
Even though I won’t attend the game, I hope Bruce Gradkowski gets a chance to play. Russell’s career is already over. Look at the 2 kids that played in the Monday Night game. Does anybody with average intelligence believe Russell will ever be that good? Of course not. He was given 30 MIL because he could throw the ball 80 yards from his knees. What an investment! It is already a proven fact that the kid is lazy, has poor eating habits, and has no competitive fire! I know the 30,000 fans that do show up on Sunday will be chanting, Bruce! Bruce! Bruce! I believe Gradkowski would at least make the games competitive.
by Jraider on Oct 12, 2009 11:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
RAIDERS
Yes the WR’s are young and the O-Line needs to play better BUT the main problem with the Offense is J. Russell. I say lets just put in the 2nd string QB and see what happens. I’m sure you will see the Offense play better and they will be able to move the ball down the field. McFadden is a good back but the Raiders need to allow him to move out in the flat and catch more balls while they use bush and Fargas to pound the ball.
by madw01 on Oct 13, 2009 6:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
AL Davis Please Wake Up. Russell is DONE!!! Fire CABLE!!!!! START Gradkowski
Jraider, I agree with your last post.
I wish Al Davis would see as well about J. Russell and letting Gradkowski start. For some reason Cable don’t have the balls enough to bench Russell. Funny Cable talks about execution but he continues to start Russell when its clear that Russell does not have the desire to get better or to even play he has his 30 mil money and he is just going through the motion.
by madw01 on Oct 13, 2009 6:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait Cable Call The Plays?????
WoW, Just Found out that Cable calls the offensive plays.
That could be one of the biggest reason why Russell looks so bad.
now I see why he is sticking with Russell he is calling the plays.
15 pass plays last week when you are down 28 plus points, you would think the raiders would have pass 50 times in that game which they should have.
Cable must go!!!!!!
Bring in a QB coach that can work with Russell on his work ethic.
Start Bruce until Russell gets better during his work with the QB coach.
Defense is ok, just play less man to man coverage.
Offense pound with Bush and Fargas and use McFadden in the flats for passes.
by madw01 on Oct 13, 2009 6:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
Uncle Al wants the Franchise to die with him.
by Darthraiderz on Oct 13, 2009 7:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, just wow!!
If nothing else starting Gradowski might provide some entertainment. When I have a co-worker who says he watches the Raiders games for “comedy relief” I just cringe, but unfortunately he does have a point. So how much worse could Grads., do out there than JRUSS??
by BleedssilverandBlack on Oct 13, 2009 9:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i’m gonna say JaMarshmallow loses the next one, goes home with two buckets of Popeyes, three Taco Bell burrito 10 packs, and is found on the floor of his apartment the next morning, smeared in his own feces & eating his throwing hand. He absolutely should be benched, and fined heavily til he starts really working at being a bottom tier NFL QB. J-russ has had it easy since high school, never had to try at anything, just coasted on ability….. well now he is seeing that ability gets u CRAPPOLA in the bigs, u gotta want it, and u gotta work for it. This game is rough, us as THE RAIDER NATION are rough, and if you wanna be a Raider and be a LEADER, u better get rough, fatboy…. Quit worrying about what effin tattoo ur gonna get this week and watch some effin film of the D thats about to plant you on yer a$$….
by VaderBDCRaider on Oct 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There is no hope
THis year, next year, or any year in the near future. THis is so sad and pathetic that I cannot even watch the games anymore. Cable is the best that a dysfunctional team with meddling management can get as a head coach. No one will come here. No players want to come here except to cash a check.
Russel will start all 16 games unless he injures himself. He will start all 16 games next year as well. Regardless of how bad he plays. Al makes the decisions, word is he even calls a lot of the plays from the booth. This team is dead until further notice. It pains me to say these thing considering I am a season ticket holder and love this team, but what else can we say and do here? Can we walk around with blinders pretending things are ok?
This team will end up in L.A. in the next two years and we will have nothing left to complain about.
Where are the other owners? Al owns 60% right now, why don’t the others step in? Where is Al’s family? SOmeone needs to dethrone this senile old fool.
by Kwester421 on Oct 15, 2009 7:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What will happen by week #8
The Raiders will be 2-6. Al Davis will still be trying to run the team without sucess. J Russel will be the worst QB in the league, and I will still bleed Silver and Black for my Raiders.
by Alfc2 on Oct 16, 2009 9:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The problem is, as I see it is
Al Davis. The Raiders will start winning again when he is gone, however that happens. His overbearing, narcissistic, underwhelming ways have driven this once great franchise into the ground, and I cannot bear to watch this embaresment of a football team. You go and nit pick it all apart, go over films, replay the games, match the x’s and o’s, but the bottom line is at the top of the organization. I am so sad at all of this. I have been a Raider fan as long as I can remember, and that was well before their first super bowl win. They will not get close to another until Al is gone.
by T S1958 on Oct 16, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Then again...
Al Davis dies, the minority owners sell the Raiders to a group of Irish businessmen who move the team to Dublin, and they instantly become the NFL’s first international exspansion franchise. They are renamed the Raiding Leprechauns, and their asses get kicked regularly by street thugs in northern Ireland. Jamarcus Russell throws out his arm by overthrowing a dirtclod at a thug in southern Dublin. And no one cares. The End.
That or Oakland falls into the Bay.
by T S1958 on Oct 16, 2009 11:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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