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PLAYING RAIDERS IS LIKE A SCRIMMAGE!


Antonio Pierce has come out and said that playing the Raiders felt like a srimmage:

"I do not like knocking teams," Pierce said.  "But right now, they're struggling.  We're playing that game the other day and, honestly, it felt like a scrimmage, like a practice.  It felt like we were going against our offense [in a controlled setting] as far as the tempo.

"There was no vibe of trying or effort from the Raiders at all from a defensive standpoint against their offense.  We're getting three-and-outs.  You don't hear nobody [saying], 'Hey, let's go!' trying to pick the guys up, rallying them, getting guys fired up.  There was nothing.  It was quiet.  A guy gets sacked or somebody gets beat, they just get up.  It's not like there's yelling or no kind of [emotion] about the way they were playing.

"It was shocking to be out there in that game and get that kind of feeling."

What the F is going on with this team, seems so far from week one when the showed so much promise., how bad is it when the shining light is a loss?  I've been a big defender for the most part but how can anyone support this? hopefully this will be a spark.........hopefully

Ill never stop supporting the Raiders but this cuts, I think bringing back Gruden is the only option and giving him as much control as he wants, he clearly still has a affinity for the Raiders and would bring the discipline and passion back.

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What would be your first move if you were the boss after the season?
Install Gruden as Head Coach
57 votes
Install Billick as Head Coach
18 votes
Keep Cable on for another year
3 votes
Get Michael Vick
14 votes
Other (Please Comment)
11 votes

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Get Mike Vick

and then hire Gruden

Fear is the Mind Killer

by dubzero23 on Oct 14, 2009 4:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What to do

They should
1) def. Hire Gruden with full control
2) look to get Jason Cambell in the offseason
3) Need a veteran WR worth while not counting out walker just yet I want to see him play since he says he’s a go
4) O-LINE O-LINE O-F***ING Line draft first round and second round if needed

by Still-a-Raider on Oct 14, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt about it

I was at the games when Gruden was here. It was a completely different swag that the team had and even that was going on in the Coliseum. We had the attitude that “we were the RAIDERS so whatcha wanna do about it?” I was at all the regular season games and playoff games during our Super Bowl run. That team was basically running off the fumes left by the team Gruden had created.
He can INSTANTLY bring back that attitude and turn this franchise around.

No doubt about it!!!!

by iBleedSnB on Oct 14, 2009 4:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Al won't let a REAL coach near the building...

until Skeletor dies you are stuck with a puppet coach and Al calling playings in from his oxygen tent booth

The sun will shine in '69

by gaclaudy on Oct 15, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

joking

You must be joking. Gruden is a hack. he takes a team that is already built and for one maybe two years does something with them. When it comes to the third year its all down hill.

by AMP961 on Oct 15, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you wouldn't take

1 or 2 years better than what the fuck we got right now?

by iBleedSnB on Oct 16, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I Was the Owner

The first thing I would do is stop Tom Cable from calling the plays; however, since your question deals with after the season, I’d fire basically the entire coaching staff. After doing that, I’d hire a general manager. I’d let the general manager do his thing and hire a new head coach. Then, from there, we rebuild yet again.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 14, 2009 4:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's a great answer RRS

None of us at the end of the day are anything more than fans so the smart answer is to hire a real football person as GM who knows what the heck they’re doing.

by sirbed on Oct 14, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

gruden is the answer…the only reason they made the super bowl with bill callahan was because gruden left him that team.

by los_raiders on Oct 14, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Marty Schottenheimer

He’s AFC West GOLD.

I’d give him complete control of everything for at least 5 years. If he can’t win in the playoffs, I’d give him front office control and let him find his own coach.

A Schottenheimer led Raiders team would be a terrifying force and would play hard every single week.

I’d also beg Steve DeBerg to come in and work as the QB coach.

by bansky on Oct 14, 2009 5:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There is no chance in hell that Marty Schottenheimer is coming to the Raiders

he hates Al Davis and Al hates him right back. Your DeBerg idea is out of left field to be sure I mean the guy couldn’t cut it in the Arena League.

I think we all know Gruden isn’t coming back either and that’s fine as sequels are hardly ever as good as the original.

I like the Brian Billick idea although he’s doing some solid work as a broadcaster and I wonder if he’d want to come into this mess of a team.

One last thing about Michael Vick, are you guys seeing something that no one else is? He’s a third string quarterback who has played in years. His career accuracy rate is 53.7% which isn’t much better than JaMarcus Russell’s 51.4%. The Raiders can do better at quarterback next season than Michael Vick.

by sirbed on Oct 14, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do a little research

Steve DeBerg is a private QB coach who works with both Pro and top college quaterbacks in the offseason. Many NFL teams have offered him top positions, only to be turned down because he loves what he does.

Two, the question was, “IF YOU WERE THE BOSS” NOT Al Davis.

It’s called reading comprehension. You should look into it.

by bansky on Oct 14, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steve DeBerg

What DeBerg is doing now.

by bansky on Oct 14, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And finally

He’d be a great QB coach

by bansky on Oct 14, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey bansky I'd reply to what you posted but I can't read

oh and Steve DeBerg isn’t in the NFL because he’s a drunk who enjoys picking up DUI’s in his spare time. Go ahead and take four posts to reply to me this time.

by sirbed on Oct 14, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, inbred, you're so clever

such a clever little man. you showed me. you so know how to respond back, you taught me a lesson, such a genius. thanks for putting me in my place, you’re so much smarter. thank god you’re here to jump to conclusions and not being able to back up your arguments. you have such a great football mind!

by bansky on Oct 14, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and it's called

READING COMPREHENSION. it means you CAN read, you just don’t understand what you’re reading.

i have two more to go…

by bansky on Oct 14, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

inbred

please enlighten me as to where it’s proof that because of DeBerg’s DUI that he isn’t in the NFL? has nothing to do with the fact that he makes 5 times what he could be making as an NFL QB coach working as a personal coach hired by GM’s and Agent’s…but of course, inbred, that would require research and knowledge on your part and i’m pretty sure that’s not your cup of tea.

by bansky on Oct 14, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey thanks for thinking I'm so smart bansky

I really appreciate it when a Chiefs fan tells me how smart I am. I’m waiting for your other two posts with bated breath.

by sirbed on Oct 14, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're welcome, inbred!

again, if you could COMPREHEND what i wrote about myself, you would see i’m from KC but i now live in Oakland and have had season tickets since 2000. but again, that would require you to be able to think outside of your ass. i don’t think you can do that. you’re pretty inbred, inbred.

by bansky on Oct 14, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boy I have to say I haven't called you any names

but you sure like to throw out the insults. I have to say if you keep this up I might start to take this personally.

by sirbed on Oct 14, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

you just like to criticize what everyone else thinks without ever posting any original thoughts of your own, telling cats that their posts were almost “well written”, but never writing one of your own, jumping to conclusions and opinions without doing any kind of research before you post.

it’s ok, inbred. keep holding your breath. kill the rest of those brain cells, blue baby.

by bansky on Oct 14, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My advice is don't read what I write

since it’s obviously so bad. It’s fine that you don’t like me but I sure would appreciate it if you’d stop calling me names bansky.

by sirbed on Oct 14, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

how old are you 2?

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 14, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, it's not "bad"

but it’s pointless. you’re critical without using critical thinking.

to tell someone their post was “almost well written” but fell apart in a few paragraphs, but have never contributed anything of your own to educate us with, is arrogant…and to be arrogant without having comprehended what was written, that’s even worse.

i’ll stop calling you names, you’re sensitive, and i don’t want you to feel bad.

by bansky on Oct 14, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did misread your first post bansky

as far as the Schottenheimer thing but I wasn’t critical of you in any personal way and you went way overboard in your response.

Again fine you think I’m arrogant and you don’t like what I have to say and that’s fine we can’t all agree on things but how does calling me names make you look like any less a jerk than you think I am?

by sirbed on Oct 14, 2009 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't care if i look like a jerk

and so you know, i’ve only been an asshole to you. i don’t tell people what they write is lacking, falls apart, or their idea is out of left field. if i disagree with a post or fanshot comment, i leave it alone, i don’t try to make myself look clever by making snide comments. if i disagree with something, i’ll try to figure out why, read about it, learn about it, and by that time, who cares. but to just throw snide comments at someone, that’s bullshit, it does nothing to move the conversation or debate forward, and in the end, your feelings got hurt.

i also proved my point about DeBerg and you have yet to prove anything.

by bansky on Oct 14, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saying an idea is out of left field isn't really an insult

by the way it just means it’s a little different. I guess I should say something snarky or snide here but really why at this point?

I guess you’ve decided you hate me or something which is fine hey we can’t all get along I guess.

As far as my feelings well they’re fine I just thought since I didn’t call you any names it wasn’t cool for you to call me names.

Have a good night bansky.

by sirbed on Oct 14, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keep Cable

I don’t care if we go 1-15 this Organization needs Stability

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on Oct 14, 2009 6:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Stability is a good thing, Cable not so good

There’s a reason Cable has never been given a chance at an NFL head coaching position, and why nobody went after him this past offseason despite the Raiders late season improvement last year. The better answer, I think, is to hire a competent GM and coach and give them at least a 3 or 4 year period of time to show improvement. Don’t panic if the team is still crap after the first or second year, or still not a winner in the third or fourth year. As long as there’s a plan in place and some progress towards the goal, then let ‘em stay. That’s the stability we need.

by guapobob on Oct 15, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'll rec that

cuz I agree with that, even though it won’t ever happen til Davis passes away.

AND NO i’M NOT SAYING i WANT HIM TO DIE PEOPLE

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 15, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All these poll questions aren'r really fair

because we don’t know how the current staff would do if Davis wasn’t there calling the shots.

Looking at the plays being called, it’s obvious Cable has no trust in Russell. I suspect he’d be sitting down. I also think that we would have signed a veteran QB by now to mentor Russell and help us win. A lot of what goes on in Oakland falls on Davis’ shoulders. If the coaching staff were allowed to coach then maybe things would be different.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 14, 2009 7:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Didn't you have a veteran QB signed in the offseason...

why yes it was GARCIA, and Al couldn’t have Garcia making the annotated one looking bad, so they cut him and now you are left with the mess you have.

The sun will shine in '69

by gaclaudy on Oct 15, 2009 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so what's your point?

This is everything we’ve been saying all season. Thanks for summing that up for us. Now go away.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 15, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You stated that you needed to sign a veteran QB, did you not?

Well I responded to your comment. The least of the Raiders problem is a QB. You have an owner/GM who was once great, and made the Raiders the “cream” of the NFL. The issue is the game has passed him by. You have a Head Coach who was not ready for the job, but since he was Al’s guy, he got the job. The NFL need’s to assume day to day operations of the Raiders, for the good of league. It has happened in MLB, Marge Schott and the Reds. Al can still be the owner, but the NFL needs to put a President and GM into the Raiders.

The sun will shine in '69

by gaclaudy on Oct 15, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cable wasn't Al's guy

he was actually Kiffin’s guy. And he did good w/ the o-line. That’s where he belongs. I don’t think he’s a good head coach, but then again it’s not really fair to judge him by that at Oakland.

I don’t think I want the NFL to step in and run the team. I want them to make Davis hire a GM. I don’t like Goddel as commissioner I don’t think I’d want him to say what goes on w/ the team. And I don’t want him picking a GM either.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 15, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Garcia

is washed up. No team wants him. It’s time for him to either get himself an assistant coach’s job or go coach some high school team.

by rightnasty on Oct 15, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And yet he was cut because he out-performed Russell.

I’m not saying he should be a starter for any team, but he could have mentored Russell. The problem is that he outperformed Russell during the preseason and Al couldn’t have that.

The sun will shine in '69

by gaclaudy on Oct 15, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually he was hurt most of preseason.

But yeah, he could have mentored Russell. It’s obvious though that they released him the same reason Philadelphia did the first time. To stop any QB controversy before it happens.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 15, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll buy that.

The sun will shine in '69

by gaclaudy on Oct 15, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For the record

Garcia asked to be cut because he didn’t like what he saw in Oakland. It’s only fans that think he had anything left in the tank. Coaches, GMs around the league know he’s done.

by rightnasty on Oct 15, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

fire Cable

he’s not motivating this team like he did late last year. Hire Gruden, assuming he’d be willing to work here. From there, rebuild this team centering around filling the last two or three gaps in the defense and refining the O-Line so the running game can excel once more. Natural receiver development will take its course but a vet is needed. If Russell can’t manage to win with all this in place, then w plain and simply have to move past him. Actually, I’d release Russell since there’s no cap in 2010 for his bonus to really effect. From there I’d bring in Campbell if released. He’s unpolished, but he’s shown he can win games and manage games much like a Joe Flacco. If not, then draft McCoy with the first round pick.

I’ll probably post a more detailed post over the weekend.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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by KA1Z3R on Oct 15, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

I totally forgot about the uncapped year. That does open some possibilities if we use them properly.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 15, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

next year is the perfect year to rebuild

but I’d much rather we use that lack of cap to build via the draft. Maning, trade some people for as many picks as you can get and use the lack of cap to sign the many draft picks and free agents that will need to be signed to fill the traded spots.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Oct 15, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I woulld normally agree with you

except that until we get a GM, we’ll just fuck up draft again.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 15, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually love Davis's ability to get late-round steals

which is why trading guys like Ricky Brown, Justin Fargas, Jon Alston, Gerard Warren (as much as that would pain me), Cooper Carlisle, even Samson Satele would be great. We could get a lot of thirds, fourths, and fifths for Davis to work his steal pick magic. But seriously, how hard could it be to draft Suh, Spikes, or McCoy with the first rounder.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Oct 15, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

Should be an interesting draft that’s for sure.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 15, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

true that

but in actuality, this team isn’t all that far off from being a possibly playoff team. Just dumb playcalling, poor coaching, and an uncaring QB with what should be a #5 receiver in DHB as his starting receiver.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Oct 15, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel, and it's my opinion only

that some of the poor play calling is directly related to the QB. Cable simply doesn’t trust Russell enough to open the pass, so we’re stuck w/ a one dimensional team.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 15, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

even the run plays are bullshit though

McFadden can’t go up the middle, why is Fargas still running the ball, and why is Bush only just now getting his second touchdown of the season? I know the O-Line has been suspect, but there’s also some shitty playcalling.

And what you put just proves my point as to why Russell MUST be released and that either Campbell needs to be signed or McCoy needs to be drafted.

Also, we really need to not sign Mike Vick. It’s nothing against him as a person, it’s just that he’s more inaccurate than Jason Campbell with less arm strength.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Oct 15, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only + I see in taking Vick

is he knows Cable from being in Atlanta. And yes, I proved your point about Russell, but I’ve been saying this since week 3 when the whole blog wanted to hang me. And then week 4 came out and all of a sudden the majority of us were agreeing. Except for maybe 3 people.

Maybe Cable needs to not wear so many hats. OC, O-line Coach, and Head Coach. I said it last year, he’s a good O-line coach, but I don’t think he can handle more than one job at a time.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 15, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd actually love to see

Cable kept as the O-Line coach because he’s a truly great one. But he knows nothing about the other positions of football.

Dude I’ve felt your Russell pain since Week 1.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Oct 15, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is a good o-line coach

but thats’a bout it

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 15, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since week 1?

But what’s the point? The Raiders have nobody better than Russell. Even if they did, or even if he was coming along nicely, the O-Line sucks and the receivers are unreliable. Even if those two things weren’t the case, we still have half-assed coaching staff.

Yet despite all that, people just want to keep saying over and over again, “Russell sucks!” So do most of the 22 starters (the kickers obviously being exempt) on this team. Isn’t it time we move on to some of the others?

by rightnasty on Oct 16, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He sucks

because he refuses to get better. And he just doesn’t want to lead. You don’t come over to the bench laughing after you just got picked off again. You come over and you shake it off and you get the offense fired up for next time.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 16, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh heh

And Al’s excuse for sticking with Russell…

“Davis invoked historical precendents which suggested Russell could follow the paths of other young quarterbacks such as John Elway, Troy Aikman and Dan Fouts, among others, but conceded "JaMarcus, he’s got to do better," Davis said. "Forget the cast around him. He knows it. But we’ve got to fight through it with him."

by rightnasty on Oct 16, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So in end it's

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 16, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So there you have it

the media, the head coach, the QB coach, and now the owner has said he’s not doing well.

I don’t know what else has to seal it for some of the ppl on this blog.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 16, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so we're ruining a team that actually could be a competitive team

to stick with a guy who might follow the path that 3 QB’s did before him that were on far more stable teams and actually tried.

Davis just admitted he’s an idiot with his head in the past who’s sticking with the worst starting QB in the league because said QB might be a legendary QB like the other 3.

This is like some bad joke. Even a writer of great fiction couldn’t come up with something this truly unbelievable.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Oct 17, 2009 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't escape what has bothered me so much from the beginning:

and what Jarrod Cooper pointed out in that podcast, and what I’ve heard from lots of you all about Jamarcus. Nothing close to what you’d expect from a leader. No fire whatsoever. He waits for people to come to him to talk. What other great QB did you see react that way? No communication with players and coaches on the sideline during the game. What’s practice like? and in the locker room?

No one can argue that these are fair and accurate criticisms of Jamarcus; even though I know many were chastised for pointing anything like that out.

by brhynno on Oct 16, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, it seems only from 2 people on this blog mainly.

But they never offer up any arguments why he’s a good QB.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 16, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

probably because

there aren’t any! at least any reasonable ones.

And don’t anyone come back saying he’s “talented,” or talking about the “physical traits with which he’s blessed.”

For what they’re worth. He’s like the Anti-Gannon; never confers with his coaches on the sidelines. Gannon loved to, and did it often, asking for his own keys to the place, and often getting there first with Gruden. It’s that kind of shit that makes winners.

It was Gruden’s lack of a guy like Gannon in Tampa that was the cause for his inability to get things going there. Gradkowski was a lost cause.

by brhynno on Oct 17, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lost Cause?

Hey that’s no way to be talking about the future of the Raiders lol

by rightnasty on Oct 17, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO ONE

has said that Gradowski is the future, or that he’s gonna turn the boat around.

I guess everyone is taking the benching of Russell and Gradowski going in as saying we think Gradkowski is the savior.

To bench Russell and put Gradkowski OR Frye in would be to light the fire under Russell’s ass and get him to see that his job isn’t safe and he has to earn it.

No where did anyone say that we’d go to the Superbowl or even have a winning season w/ Gradkowski.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 17, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, it was a joke

Meant to lighten the mood around here.

by rightnasty on Oct 17, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

What you guys should be using for your argument is the fact that he was the Number 1 pick in the draft, held out most of his rookie year and has one of the biggest contracts in the league.

by rightnasty on Oct 16, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

so you're explaining to us he's a Ryan Leaf-esque bust?

aren’t you one of his supporters?

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Oct 17, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

I only said it wouldn’t make a difference if we switch to Gradkowski. I did stick up for JaMarcus in the summer when it was looking like he might develop into something, especially after that Tampa Bay game. I assumed he’d get better this year, not worse. Didn’t we all?

by rightnasty on Oct 17, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm I guess some people mean to bench him and end it there

but I wanna bench Russell to light a fire under his ass.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 17, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

likewise

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Oct 17, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

There’s two things about that

1} I get the feeling from Al that Russell won’t be benched until HE gives up on Russell, and once that happens…well, DeAngelo Hall comes to mind.

2) We’re hearing everyday how fat, lazy and stupid the guy is. Couple that with the fact that this team has been voted worst in the league by it’s own fans. If all that is true, then maybe he doesn’t mind sitting on the bench for $31 million. Quite possibly what fire there is to be lit is already burning low. Sounds awfully negative, I realize that. But somebody mentioned Ryan Leaf, so….

by rightnasty on Oct 17, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well that's the problem

Davis doesn’t want to be wrong and give Kiffin the satisfaction.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 17, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to admit, I did

but I don’t anymore. I also defended Al far too long. both of those douchebags continue to prove their critics right, time and time again.

by brhynno on Oct 17, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And with that in mind

For those who are still sleeping, today is the Red River Shoot Out, Oklahoma vs. Texas. One of these guys might be our QB next year.

by rightnasty on Oct 17, 2009 9:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Davis just said

he won’t draft a QB.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 17, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously??

Sooooo I guess we’ll be having somebody like Derek Anderson or Byron Leftwich starting for us next season…

by rightnasty on Oct 17, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going by what he said about Russell

so I expect to see Russell next season as starter again.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 17, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd actually like to Stanzi as a possible QB for us

if he slips to the second or even the third. He can run and his incredibly accurate. Especially checking it down to TE’s and RB’s, something every Oakland QB will have to do.

Evey- "Are you a crazy person?"
V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
V for Vendetta, blowing your mind away since 2005.

by KA1Z3R on Oct 17, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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