Jets @ Raiders 2nd-Half Game Thread
by TheRaiderWay on Oct 25, 2009 2:38 PM PDT
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Print24-0 Jets. Can the Raiders do anything to salvage this and keep it from getting any uglier then it is?
If so, it's now up to Bruce Gradkowski to do it.
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Raiders might as well keep the tarp on
They might sell out that way.
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it looks like the receivers are catching the ball
whats going on? is it just russel throwing 2 ints? is the defense giving up the plays that badly?
of course.
ill keep track of the game, and i’ll talk to ya guys when something awesome happens.
is anyone really surprised here?
It’s going to be like this every week for the rest of the season…I expect them to lose every time they take the field…it’s not going to change until Al is dead….
I don’t think last week was a fluke. Turnovers are what’s really killing us and 3 and outs aren’t helping, either.
Johnson is not good enough to play opposite Nnamdi
You’re going to take some heat in that situation, and Chris has shown he can’t handle that task.
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I thought he can be cut at anytime...
it’s just that the payout is guaranteed and counts against the cap. I could be wrong though.
We should not draft a QB
OL and DL yes, but can’t depend on yet another young QB. There are always veterans who can be picked up. We don’t need a superstar. We just need someone who can execute. JR can’t execute consistently, and he’s shown no mental growth.
@worldblee on Twitter.
Not sure, but there are always guys available
The salary cap can make it hard to keep around veteran backups.
@worldblee on Twitter.
u think philly is really gonna keep
mcnabb, kolb and vick. one of them will be available, via trade or something
They should try
to go get get Chase Daniels from the skins… offer a low draft pick for him
Pretty bad 2010 QB free agent crop!
Jason Campbell, Washington Redskins
Kyle Orton, Denver Broncos
Chad Pennington, Miami Dolphins
Charlie Batch, Pittsburgh Steelers (34)
Kyle Boller, St. Louis Rams (28)
David Carr, New York Giants (30)
Kellen Clemens, New York Jets (26)
Daunte Culpepper, Detroit Lions (32)
Jeff Garcia, Oakland Raiders (39)
Rex Grossman, Houston Texans (29)
Joey Harrington, New Orleans Saints (30)
Tarvaris Jackson, Minnesota Vikings (26)
Jon Kitna, Dallas Cowboys (36)
Matt Moore, Carolina Panthers (25) – Restricted FA
Patrick Ramsey, Tennessee Titans (30)
Brett Ratliff, Cleveland Browns (24) – Exclusive Rights FA
Troy Smith, Baltimore Ravens (25) – Restricted FA
David Carr
looks like the best name on that list. but without a strong o-line it doesnt matter who is back there
carr would actually be a good-great pickup
i’ve seen above average potential of him.
in college today who has
leadership abilities, accuracy, and great pocket presence?
Look we need stability at the Head coaching spot not fire guy every year.
I have to agree with the questioning of Tebow as a QB. He might be good in the wildcat.
any young qb
without a doubt needs stability from the head coach. alex smith looked pretty damn good today. and we all know how many coaches he’s gone through
The best thing about today's game...
the uniforms of the refs!!!
Anything is better than ..
listening to Matt Millen!! He led a team to an 0-16 record and they give him a job as an expert commentator!!! Isn’t that like having the down syndrome kid explain calculus??
Its
like having JR teach a kid how to stay healthy and read opponent’s defensive schemes.
by madmavmathews on Oct 25, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I would like Brett Favre
If he didn’t fumble and wasn’t old and thought about retiring every year
Ian Anderson
He's progessing quite nicely
In the weight department. Give the guy credit where credit is due.
@worldblee on Twitter.
Thanks for correcting me on that.
How selfish of me to want to see him progress only on the field. Baby steps.
drafting a qb to me is one of the worst ideas
how many times do qbs pan out with early success? Ryan and Flacco only come along once a blue moon
For all those who want to draft a QB
Remember how much salary cap pain we already have with JaMarcus. If you take a high QB draft pick you’ll be stuck with more guaranteed money that might not pay off.
@worldblee on Twitter.
Lol, old Bruce doing his best JaMarcus impression
Awful lucky the defender dropped that pick.
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let's be real here
we, as the raider nation, have almost the same mentality of Al Davis. None of us has the patience to let a QB develop. we want results now. So why would we be talking about taking another QB in the next draft?
im talkin about getting results from a qb
immediately. JR has had how many different coaches so far? you can just keep changing coaches and qbs and expect results
i'm not saying I want JR
what i am saying is everybody seems to think fuck it let’s just draft a new qb next year. to much of a gamble and if that qb doesnt pan out in a year or two we say fuck him too and we’re right back where we started
I think we've become less patient
because few of us wanted Jabustus drafted and we see other rookies (Sanchez for example) have some success or at least look like they belong on the football field.
that's why i'm saying
lay off drafting a qb because they’re such a gamble and you never know what you’re really gonna get until like 4 or 5 years down the road. so the best way is to get a decent veteran qb via trade or free agency
I like the idea of getting an experience QB. Maybe we can beg Garcia back or bring on Vick(lol)
by Walker Wallace on Oct 25, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn’t think JaMarcus was a wasted draft pick at the time. It’s his work ethic, laziness, and attitude that’s got everyone calling for his head or at least I’m not happy because of those things.
by Walker Wallace on Oct 25, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
and with a different coach
each year, there’s nobody to consistantly keep a fire lit underneath his ass
Fuck AL
Fuck that Old Bastard…Im done watching this team..Im no longer sticking up for them..Fuck Em
Why? I’ve had nothing but patience from Russell. I let every bad performance slide over and over, but how long do you have to wait and see before you can say he’s a dud?
I dont want to draft another QB
You guys might think im crazy but I think we should stick with Gradkowski. He is mobile, accurate and could make big plays
Fear is the Mind Killer
Its alot safer
and we desperately need depth and talent at O-line and D-line.
by madmavmathews on Oct 25, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
win or lose
we need to show the team the stability they need at the head coaching position. how many of us showed our substitute teachers any respect when they filled in for our regular Spanish teacher?
Remember when the cowboy fans wanted Romo
because Drew Bledsoe was so garbage. This is whats happening right now. Gradkowski is our Tony Romo!!!!!
Fear is the Mind Killer
i could see definately
taking someone with great leadership ability more than anything later on like 4th or 5th round. not much risk. plus you get one of these guys from a smaller school who is grateful for the chance to be in the NFL and is gonna work his ass off
Had to check the latest posts from @FakeFatJaMarcus
http://twitter.com/fakefatJamarcus
“One play, one fumble.. solid start for JaMarcus…”
@worldblee on Twitter.
Grads... QB rating of 75...
Jabuster couldn’t even count that high if he had a calculator…
damn.. that is an empty stadium!!
WOW!!… now. who bought all those PSLs??? LOL
JR has been on the sidelines
possibly watching his starting job slip away. Gradko has looked good enough
DHB, you frickin' dropped the ball
Don’t go calling for a flag. You dropped it.
@worldblee on Twitter.
He never even had it to begin with
It went through his hands..
by madmavmathews on Oct 25, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
the one thing that has been seen
is JR has been up and in this game cheering the team on. I mean he really could have just decided to sit on the bench and sob about being taken out
hey, who knows
i know lots of guys were calling for him to be benched earlier in the season. this might get his ass in gear now seeing Gradko in there. that last drive was 80 yards even though we didn’t get any points.
I was one of those guys
And, I hope those are the results. I’m just starting to doubt Jamarcus love of the game and desire to win. He has to want to win more than big earrings, Rolls Royces and funky haircuts. So far he has shown only love for the last 3.
If you are correct... and it really took
this much to get him motivated.. why would you want anyone on your team that is so unmotivated???
Do you think...
…that as Al stares down at the field, he thinks he’s seeing Stabler, Branch, Casper, and each games ends with a Blanda FG for the win…in his delusion-fevered mind?
You obviously never
watched a Maryland game… I’m a big ACC fan…he was mediocre there.. he is garbage here…
At least basketball season is about to be here!
by duballers23 on Oct 25, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
unless you are a Sorriers fan..
then it’s just more of the same…
On the bright side
I like Murphy’s fire and think he’ll learn from his mistakes. Maybe once we have Schilens and Murphy on the field we’ll be able to assess our passing game a little better.
he was supposed to be back at wk 2
now at wk 8, he’ll play.
Cable just said
Jabuster is the starter next week.. “there is no question there”
NFL network just said..
JaBUSTer ..HAS TO BE the future of the team!! LMAO!! ok ass clown..
Here is hoping Hayward Bey
hears nothing but people talking shit about about Crabtree’s 5 CATCHES!!
ok... Sharks on!! A team that can actually
win a game…
This franchise....
…is in a death spiral. You think it’s bad being a Detroit Lions fan? Detroit will win a Super Bowl before the Raiders become a competitive team again.
Al Davis, you were once a genius (about 30 years ago), and we thank you for the memories and past glories, and for your role in bringing success to the old AFL, but you have destroyed this franchise with your insistence upon a style of play that was in vogue in the 70s, and your stubborn insistence that everyone else is wrong, and only you are right. Please, someone in the Davis family, declare Al mentally incompetent and turn the Raiders over to someone else…anyone else.
38-0
Well, at least the Raiders offense and defense are on the same page.
hahaha..
that’s a good one! Listening to his press conference. The guy can’t speak English! I’m assuming he is actually illiterate! He is blaming his WR for not going up and getting the ball! Truly amazing how dumb this guy really is… why would you draft a guy this stupid for the QB position? He sounds like mushmouth from fat albert…
I thought the same thing...
…when I heard JaM-R last week after the win against Philly. I don’t think I’d ever heard him interviewed before, and thought, “Is he just exhausted from the game? Or is he really this inarticulate?” Seems to me, you need someone at QB who’s a leader, and how can someone be a leader when they can’t even form a coherent sentence?
Those Jet throwback unis...
…made them look like the visiting Pittsburgh Steelers. The Raiders played like the football team from Skyline High School.
NO MORE
40 year fan of the RAIDERS and counting born and bred but for the first time I cant watch
This is heresy, but....
…I started following the Raiders while in high school, in 1968. Got bit by the Heidi Bowl, and have been a Raiders fan ever since. But to be a fan requires an investment in heart and emotion (and usually money, if one is attending games, and buying paraphanalia), but the past couple of years, reached the point that I can’t take the horrible state of the Raiders any longer. Their abysmal performances the past 6 or so seasons do not permit me to continue to invest my heart and soul in this franchise. I’m getting older, and my heart can’t take it any longer. Every season I start out with hope that things will be better than the season before. And this year, I was encouraged by the effort against San Diego in Game 1 (Raiders were robbed in that one). But even with a win in Game 2, it was obvious that something was wrong. And by the time of the loss to the Giants, it was obvious this season was going into the dumper like the past 6.
I’ve slowly begun the migration to another team, one that will likely not win their division this season, but they at least put out a quality effort each week. With every Raider loss, I still die a little bit inside, and I’ve just reached the brutal determination that if the owner and organization (one and the same) have totally lost the ability to be a quality organization, I’m not expending another drop of emotion and devotion in the Raiders. I wish them the best, but I don’t think they will ever be a competitive team again until Al Davis, and all of his influence, is flushed from the organization. Considering his health, he’ll likely outlive me. There is no joy in following the Raiders, so why attempt it?
I can't decide if today's game was sad and pathetic
or pathetic and sad. God this team is going to kill me.
Tom Cable
Gawd, if only the NAPA DA could’ve been a Raiders fan. Tom Cable would’ve been arrested, sent to jail, locked up, and the key wou’ve been thrown away. Instead, he must’ve hated the Raiders and their fans, thus wanting to see it’s pathetic demise continue under his, laughable, so called, ‘leadership’. And, I use that term extremely loosely. He’s done nothing of the sort, at least in terms of leading them in the right direction. What a sorry excuse for a NFL head coach. That’s Tom Cable for you. Useless.
by Older_than_Moses_Shaq on Oct 25, 2009 9:27 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah I dunno any more.
I think if he wasn’t in Oakland and has a chance to really coach, then maybe he’s not bad. Look @ last year’s TB game last weeks game….
Maybe Kiffin was right about blitzing last year after all.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
CABLE SAYS RUSSELL STILL THE STARTING QB
That is what is in the news right now…isn’t that wonderful? Russell will be starting Sunday against the Chargers! Good times! I wonder how many interceptions he will throw? How many fumbles will he have? How bad will the score be? We lost 38-0 today, maybe we could lose 52-0 this Sunday!
Scouting Dept.
Maybe if we had a scouting dept. like the rest of the teams have me might be able to get some quality players, DHB was picked before Crabtree and lets see… DHB has 4 receptions in 7 games and dropped a TD pass right in his hands and Crabtree has 5 receptions in one game, yep, we made the right pick!
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