Most Amazing (and revealing) Stat Ever

by RLangford on Oct 26, 2009 12:04 AM PDT Comment 63 comments

Raider fans still out there, I want to ask you a question:

In the 17 losses JaMarcus has been quarterback in the last two-plus years (2 in '07; 10 in '08; 5 this year), how many times has he led us on touchdown drives?

Again, in all his losses how many times has JaMarcus led us on touchdown drives?

Here are some conditions:

1) The drive can't include a 50+ yard touchdown. It has to be a drive of multiple plays with some time off the clock.

2) The drive can't be a short field of less than 30 yards.

3) The drive can't be when the other team has the game on ice (20+ point lead).

All right, given those conditions, how many touchdowns has JaMarcus led us to in our losses? Have an answer yet?

For comparisons sake, Alex Smith led the Niners on 3 such drives today. And in '07 before JaMarcus took over, McCown and Culpepper led us on 9 such drives in ten losses.

How many TD drives has JaMarcus led us on in his 17 losses that weren't short fields or quick strikes or garbage time?

I'll tell you how many:

That's right, in those 17 losses JaMarcus has led us on one touchdown drive that wasn't a short field or a quick strike or in garbage time when we were down by 20+ points. He did it in the second drive of the opener against San Diego this year. Every other touchdown drive has been a long pass, like the ball to Louis Murphy against San Diego; or a short field, like the one-yard drive against K.C. at home last year after a pick; or in garbage time, like the meaningless points we put up against the Broncos in the 4th quarter when they went up 27-0 in last year's opener.

That's probably why when the Raiders got down by 14 today, everybody knew the game was over. He can't lead us on touchdown drives. It's a remarkable statistic. It means that in losses the Raiders are never, ever controlling the ball. They either get lucky or they don't score. That's it.

More than anything, this for me is a reason to bench the guy permanently this year. He's completely incapable of leading a touchdown drive. Give him too many plays and he'll screw it up. Like on the pick in the end zone today.

We need a quarterback who can manage the ball and lead us down the field. JaMarcus so far appears incapable of doing that.

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Good work digging that up, but thinking back my answer would have been 0 because I can’t remember any. The guy is as bad a number 1 overall pick as there has been in the history of the league. In reality he wouldn’t have been worth a pick at all. As horrible as that was and as lame as Al is, he still can find some good ones. JaMarcus would be the worst pick since Marinovich. We will go nowhere with him. Our guts will continue to be torn out, until something drastic happens at the top of this organization. We are screwed.

by neuraider on Oct 26, 2009 12:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

good post

I agree its time to call Jamarcus a bust. I had high hopes for him but the pick was a mistake.

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by RUKidding on Oct 26, 2009 3:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If the QB can't lead the team to a win, bench him.

gradkowski led the team, and it looked like he was a LEADER! i’d like to see how he does in the games.

by patriotguy on Oct 26, 2009 3:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

play gradkowski

i liked what i saw catchable balls the recievers will adjust and if they dont then theyll get beched

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by TheAutumnWind on Oct 26, 2009 4:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Bigger mess than u think

I agree with everyone on how bad Jamarcus Russell is. However, he is not the only reason why they stink. The WR’s suck too! Dropping balls all over the place, not running routes well. They also lack the ability to fight off CB’s and go up and after the ball. The INT JRUSS threw in the endzone yesterday is a good example. Not that it was an easy play by any means, but did you see how Murphy had an absolute lackluster effort to adjust and get that ball, whereas Revis did just the opposite and went up and after the ball? How about the good thows JRUSS has made where he hits the recievers right in the hands or in between the numbers? Guys r dropping everything. One other thing I noticed is that at there are many times where JRUSS is WAY, WAY , WAY off the mark. I’m wondering if mayber he has vision problems. One time yesterday, I saw him pass the ball to a referee who was standing 20 yards down the field. There wasn’t another Raider within another 30 yards of the Ref. It has me wondering if he simply can’t see. Does anyone know if he wears contacts? Maybe it’s time for him to get his eyes checked again. But my point is, the problem is not just him, let’s face it……almost the entire team stinks. We simply can’t compete week in and week out with the players we have. And who’s in charge of that? The Onwer and the front office. Then the coaches, then then to the players. But it all starts at the top. The day John Gruden and Bruce Allen left the team is appearing to turn out to be the darkest day for the Raiders. It didn’t affect us right away, but sure hurts us now……has been hurting, and will continue to hurt with NO END IN SIGHT! I really wish someone could have talked to Al back then and convinced him to extend Gruden’s contract. Woulda, coulda, shoulda Al! Does anyone think AL ever regretted it? He should, he had a good situation with Gruden. Why fix it if it ain’t broken? Now things are beyond fixing. Sorry, I’m so doom and gloom on a Monday morning. I think I’ll go punch my co-worker ( who is a Broncos Fan) in the face this morning. That should make me feel better.

by nyraider on Oct 26, 2009 6:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It was Watkins...

Not Murphy that JaMucus was trying to hit in the endzone.

I was at a HS football game last friday when the QB just lobbed a ball up to avoid a sack. That pass was picked off and returned for a TD and my friend with me at the game asked how stupid would you have to be to make that throw. JR’s pick on the third possession to Zach Miller, at least Miller was the closest Raider, was thrown to where Miller should be if only JR and Miller were on the field. JR can’t just float the ball in the center of the field without looking at where he’s throwing. In JR’s defense, the play as drawn up looked god awful as Miller had 0 chance of running his route without being interferred by his TEAMMATES. That being said there is no way you make that throw.

by sarpar on Oct 26, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're right

Oops sorry about that, you’re right it was Watkins.

by nyraider on Oct 26, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No worries

After the effort he showed on the zach miller TD last week I just didn’t see Murphy not trying for a ball.

by sarpar on Oct 27, 2009 5:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

to anyone about to come in here and blame the O-Line or the receivers

think about this:

How often has Russell held onto the ball way longer than he should have? Or not moved around in the pocket to avoid pressure? How often has Russell thrown the ball so incredibly out there that no one but a defender or the turf can catch it? How often does he make bad reads and throw either a pick or a near pick? How often has he thrown the ball so hard that his receiver’s hands hurt afterwards?

I actually think we should LOSE the rest of the games this year, so we can draft 1st and get Colt McCoy.

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by KA1Z3R on Oct 26, 2009 6:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

but what's to say

that Davis would definitely go for him?

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 26, 2009 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

McCoy

has a strong arm and good accuracy on deep throws. He’s also a fast runner who’ll probably run a great 40 for a QB.

That’s basically Russell for him except McCoy is actually really hard-worker who hates himself after a loss and will work as hard as possible to not have that happen again. Oh yeah, he’s also incredibly accurate on short throws and makes a lot of good reads.

The last paragraph explains what Davis will overlook when drafting him, too awed by his speed and arm strength.

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by KA1Z3R on Oct 26, 2009 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wouldn’t he rather trade for Vick?

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by John (obviousman) on Oct 26, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

you mean a better running Jamarcus???

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by KA1Z3R on Oct 26, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

I feel like Al Davis would fall all over himself for Vick.

“You mean there’s a guy out there that’s just like JaMarcus but faster? That would work!!”

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by John (obviousman) on Oct 26, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

the one reason I don't think he'd take Vick

Is he’s not as strong-armed as Russell and almost as inaccurate.

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by KA1Z3R on Oct 27, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

My sentiments exactly....

having the #1 pick hasn’t been as good as it would seem for the Raiders. Al goes against conventional wisdom (or any wisdom, for that matter), so he’s going to look for the strong armed QB, or the lightning fast receiver.

by tbone64 on Oct 26, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, that's stunning

Even I wouldn’t have guessed that low. Absolutely staggering statistic and kudos on digging it up.

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by Raybin on Oct 26, 2009 6:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

thought it'd be higher too

but I got FG’s confused with TD’s.

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by KA1Z3R on Oct 26, 2009 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Forget the draft

Until we have a scouting dept. that is capable of evalulating talent, JR as a first round pick when every analyst said he was unpolished and only had a strong arm, or DHB…Why get him with alot of other, better recievers out there? Crabtree holds out and plays 1 game and has more receptions than DHB and did you see the TD pass he dropped? Not only did it hit him right in the hands but then he was crying that he wanted a flag, a draft won’t help this team until there is somebody who knows talent that is allowed to make the picks.

by smalljaw on Oct 26, 2009 7:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Scouting

We have Al Davis!

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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 26, 2009 9:14 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs

Like small jaw said...

until we have a scouting dept, we’re going to keep bringing up the rear in the AFC west.

by tbone64 on Oct 26, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sarcasm

It’s hard to detect on the Internet sometimes.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 26, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least DHB owned up on the dropped pass. Read Raiders own up to blame…Except One. That one is no surprise JR.

by Walker Wallace on Oct 26, 2009 9:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Al's comment as he fired Kiffin

I can’t help but think back to one of the comments Al Davis made as ‘cause’ for firing Lane Kiffin. It went something like this…“and he didn’t want to draft JaMarcus Russell. He’s a great player. Get over it.”
Ahhh, the brilliance of Al Davis rears it’s ugly head. Oh, and Al, how’s that Darius Hayward-Bey pick working out for you?
You had a good coach but didn’t realize it because you didn’t want somebody around who knew enough about football that he could go about his business without having to ask you before every decision he made. Now you’re stuck with, by far, the worst head coach in the NFL. How much longer before you work your way out of the Hall Of Fame?

by Older_than_Moses_Shaq on Oct 26, 2009 10:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

No, the coach is just right...

because Al can still pull the puppet strings, no matter how big the Cable guy is.

by tbone64 on Oct 26, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And he took DHB over Crabtree, Maclin, and Harvin!

by SFGiantsD on Oct 26, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The PERFECT QB for us to draft!

Yeah Raider Nation it has to be Sam Bradford from Oklahoma. 1: he’s hurt and out for the season. 2: He doesnt have a “cannon” arm so he would never get picked off on poorly thrown long balls 3: if we don’t take him he goes late 1st or second round. maybe even third. Heres our chance to overpay a lesser talent again! 4: The experts say no QB from Oklahoma has ever taken a snap at the Pro level , so we have to draft him (Mr. Davis could play him to prove to those doubting thomases that he really was a good pick). He has to be our dysfunctional 2010 draft pick!
Nyraider Watch Russell’s feet when he passes. When he misses badly like that you will notice he doesn’t have his rear foot planted and is throwing with his arm only. this is supposed to be something (mechanics) that can be coached out of a player. I guess all he needs is a Coach huh?

by Wyoraider on Oct 26, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

What's his .40 time? Ha ha.

by golfswithglock on Oct 26, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sad but true

Russell is not smart enough to be an NFL QB. I doubt that he can read and process any defense thrown at him, he looks lost out there, throwing balls up for grabs. Couple that with is placid attitude. The most important position on the field is the QB, he has to lead, to fire guys up, to convince them they are going to march down the field. What I see from Russell is a lazy, slumbering guy slowly trudging up to the line, calling a play and throwing in the general direction of somebody. Never a sense of urgency, never any fire.
As sad as it is to say, the Raiders have been set back 10 years with this pick.

by Laoren on Oct 26, 2009 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

He just doesn’t have the personality for the position, it seems. Little leadership, little responsibility, no real clue how to behave during or after a game, minimal ability to compute all that’s coming at him.

That’s what we’ve seen this year—and what we saw much of last year. I was very positive after the Denver, Houston, and Tampa Bay games. I thought he was progressing and would progress still more. But he has regressed to the point where it’s difficult to see how he can and will be a consistently successful quarterback.

But above all it is the personality and demeanor of JaMarcus that makes me think he has no meaningful future in the league.

by RLangford on Oct 26, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

All that said,

I’m still hanging on to the hope that after the brief benching against the Jets—that he responded to in a completely clueless—Jamarcus will come out and show something against the Chargers.

In all honesty, as Monte Poole suggested today, he probably should start, but the game should be seen as a last chance to call the position his.

by RLangford on Oct 26, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Look, I was there...

for the Massacre in the Meadowlands. Me and every other Raider fan was screaming for him to be benched, and he turned the ball over 3 times that day, too!

How many last chances does this guy have to get? It’s been documented that he doesn’t put in the extra effort that the top tier QBs do. He goes to practice like people go to work…do what’s required and go home. He won’t put in extra time with his receivers; he doesn’t try hard enough with his weight; he just doesn’t care. Next time he turns the ball over, watch him siting on the sideline, panting like a big St. Bernard on a hot July afternoon. Just plain sad.

by tbone64 on Oct 26, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

But I also agree with Poole’s point that you give one more after the benching to see. Look, we don’t have anybody backing him up that’s a real option for the future and we have a ton invested in the guy. So we don’t have much choice.

I know he’ll start the rest of the season, though from my point of view, I’d like to see him benched every time he comes out as badly as he did yesterday. Until he shows otherwise, he hasn’t earned the right to stay in the game during a poor performance.

It’s understandable the Raiders will give him nine more games to show if he has anything. I’m feeling like one more might be enough though.

by RLangford on Oct 26, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Had to go to my source (@FakeFatJamarcus) to see what he had to say:

What does JaMarcus have to do to lose my starting job?! Donald Rumsfeld had an easier time trying to get fired.

Also,

@Mark_Sanchez: Hope Coach Cable benches JaMarcus again next game so that I can sit on the sideline and eat some scrumptious all-beef franks.

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by worldblee on Oct 26, 2009 1:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I guess it's Jamarcus's fault too...

..that the Raider defense made the 3rd-string RB of the Jets, Shonn Green, look like a Pro Bowl candidate in his first action?

Other posters have it right. With the revolving door in the coaches office and with bizarre drafts each year, no QB, NONE, would be successful in this organization.

Good luck getting a decent free agent to come out here…a place where careers die.

by TigerPaw on Oct 26, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I think it is partly his fault

That kind of play, those kinds of early deficits with no home of an offense that can come back likely demoralize a defense to the point where the intensity and execution understandably drop off.

by RLangford on Oct 26, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Revolving door in the coaches office is because they suck

Do you honestly think if Tom Cable was allowed to remain the Raiders head coach for a few years the Raiders would progress? He’s a horrible excuse for an NFL head coach. He devises the worst gameplans in the league. His playcalling is pathetic. His offensive line had the most penalties in the league and THAT got him the head gig? He was under .300 at Idaho for four years. He’s only performing up to expectations. He’s proven that he can win less than 3 games out of every ten he coaches. That’s a fact. He is who we thought he was. A loser. You can expect one good game in a month from his teams. Deal with it.

by Older_than_Moses_Shaq on Oct 26, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Never EVER should have drafted a QB from LSU!!!

What a pitiful f***king mess that Jet’s game was..

A couple of weeks ago I was channel surfing through the college games (on Saturday) and I stumbled into the LSU Tigers vs Florida Gators game. So I watched how the Gators suffocated LSU in the second half while LSU made repeated attempts to RUN the ball. But what really caught my attention was the comments coming from the game commentators!!!

One of the game commentators was discussing the (relative) success that LSU has had under coach Les Miles and that how Coach Miles has built the LSU offense “with a reduced reliance on a throwing quarterback”!!! I heard that and it made me spit-out my drink!!!

How can the Raider (scouts??) even consider shopping for a throwing quarterback at a school that runs their offense “with a reduced reliance on a throwing quarterback”. Good GOD! Russell was there to run the option/WildCat and to throw “some” passes.

Ya wonder why he can’t throw??? It’s because he wasn’t drafted out of high-school by LSU for his primarily his ability to throw… Uggghhh. Start Gradkowski and DON’T LOOK BACK. And go shop for a second string THROWING QUARTERBACK this draft.

Go Raiders.

by muchosmanos on Oct 26, 2009 3:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree. But the “experts” said Russell was a legit pick with tremendous upside. The only thing making it easier to stomach not taking Megatron is his constant nagging injuries.

by golfswithglock on Oct 26, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No more drafting

I disagree with getting a QB through the draft at this point. For 2 reasons:
1. We can’t afford another 1st round pick
2. I think our defense is built to win now.
When the defense finds out how to stop the run, an average QB can take us back to excellence. Less offensive turnovers and letting our defense play with a lead would be a great change of pace. What good is having the best defensive player in the league do if teams aren’t forced to throw in the 1st place. I’m sure we can find a veteran player who wants to play. Somebody that won’t shuck responsibility like Russell knowing that the owner of the club will keep starting him no matter what just to save face in the media’s eyes for overpaying the clown in the 1st place. Package next year’s 1st rounder with Micheal Bush or Justin Fargas to snag somebody. Avoid the draft like the plague. Because that’s what it’s been.

by golfswithglock on Oct 26, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Personally I’m sick of all the Russell bashing. There are 5 men on the offensive line, 3 of our starters wouldn’t be back ups on most teams. Anybody see that O-line comparison recently? Most teams have on average at least four seconds to throw the ball. The Raiders line is giving him on average 2.5 seconds to make a throw. The quick slant is the quickest throw you can make and it requires 3 seconds. We’ve got 2 rookie WRs starting who can’t catch a cold in the dead of winter who are routinely running incorrect routes. However, even the great Jerry Rice dropped everything his first year. Our running game doesn’t exist again, because our O-line can’t block anybody. Matt Ryan has a dominating running game behind him. Flacco has a dominating running game behind him. I wouldn’t matter if we had Manning, Brady or Montana they wouldn’t be successful with this team around them. I’m not at all mad about the throw to Watkins that turned into an INT, how many times have you people throw the ball up and give his WR a chance to make a play. Watkins sucked butt on that awful attempt at a catch. I said it before the start of the season when everybody was so excited, some of you even saying playoffs, that they didn’t bring in any talent on the offensive line or in the LBs to expect any success. In fact, we loss talent on the O-line. Everything starts up front. We won’t be any good until we invest in the O-line. And by the way, Morrison is completely overrated. Watch closely and you’ll see just how many plays he misses.

That's whats up

by All Rebel on Oct 26, 2009 5:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I can't believe people are still sticking up for Russell

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 26, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

JR

not just a question of sticking or not sticking up. The main issue is that he was/is not in a position to succeed with this alledged OL, dubious WR, again underwhelming running game, weak play calling, and lack of adjustment coaching. MacD has a bust like direction right now. Is it me or Fargas is the only one on that team that shows ready to play and gives everything he has. Where were the linebackers? With their lack of size, they attempt to compensate with speed and are either manhandled or over pursuit out of lanes. This team is too fragile and can’t get behind 14 points. Cable did the right thing to bench the kid; wake up call worked on McNabb last year and it was an attempt to spark the team from quitting. Didn’t work.

by raiders4liffe on Oct 27, 2009 3:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How does Russell perform when he does have some time?

Throws high, throws low etc. I hope that the wake-up call works.

by Rusty23 on Oct 27, 2009 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

you must be related to russell

because if you honestly think that if we had peyton manning or tom brady we would be as bad as we are now, you’re as dumb as he is. qbs have to work…they have to watch film…they have to look at photos after they throw stupid passes. have you ever seen the lord of the fats look at a photo on the bench? no, he sits on his ass and jokes around on the sideline. look at what manning has done with collie…i’m sure that manning by his example and knowledge of the game has made that rookie receiver much better than he actually is. plus with a threat at qb that can read a defense, check to the right play, dhb and murphy might be able to catch a ball without a defender near them. the offensive line can make blocks better because the qb sees what the defense is doing and adjusts the protections. the running backs are better because they don’t face 9 man fronts with run blitzes. why should these other players try when the most important player on the field doesn’t care? why would i risk my paycheck or my body for the team if the qb doesn’t do the same? everybody says you can’t evaluate russell until we get a better team, i say we can’t evaluate our team until we get rid of russell.

by greasygoat on Oct 26, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's how I've begun to feel

Like I have no idea how good this Raider team is because Russell won’t let me find out. I mean, I know we’re not a top caliber team, but I’m not sure we couldn’t be a 9-7 team without one player tearing the heart out of the team and out of its chances at winning 2-3 times already this season.

Minus Russell, the Raiders might be 4-3 right now. It’s hard to say.

I’ve defended him for a while. But his post-game comments and general behavior this week show that he doesn’t have much of a clue about being a leader or even about his own performance.

by RLangford on Oct 27, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

without Russell

and the momentum of a couple wins, the Raiders could easily be 4-3 if not 5-2. This defense can be scary good if they actually have a reason to play great.

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V- "I'm quite sure they'll say so."
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by KA1Z3R on Oct 27, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How do we expect to win?

Without a real coach & a decent QB.
The Garcia – Vick talk sounds like an old record player.
Count your losses Al & move on.

by Brooklyn75 on Oct 26, 2009 7:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Have to do something with this team.

We can’t just say the problem is everyone including JR, and do nothing. We have to start weeding out problems. The first head to weed out should be JR since it is already identified as one of the problems.

by Chanci on Oct 26, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Al Davis and JaMarcus Russell

These two should be sent to Alcatraz. They deserve each other. Al Davis is a dumb fool who invested $30 MIL in a dumb, lazy, heartless punk. The guy didn’t even care when he was pulled from the game! He’s got less emotion than a corpse. I can’t stand to even look at the fat SOB. There has never been a worse starting QB in the NFL.

by Jraider on Oct 26, 2009 7:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Kiffin was Right

Lane Kiffin knew it was stupid to pick Russell. Do not buy season tickets in 2010 if Al Davis or JaMarcus Russell are anywhere near Napa. Make Al Davis pay for his useless excuse of a # 1 pick.

by Jraider on Oct 26, 2009 7:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Cable cannot call plays

Who in the heck authorized Cable to implement a pass first game plan this season? With an idiot at the QB position, we should be running the ball at least 60% of the time. I’m sorry, but I am slowly losing respect for Cable. If he lets Russell play after the bye week, Cable must go!

by Jraider on Oct 26, 2009 8:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

What makes you think all of this is up to Cable?

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 27, 2009 4:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It has come to it is all Cable's fault time.

Hearing more and more of it and it drives me nuts. I’m with you on this. Is he great? No. Are we going to get a great Coach? No. It’s Al’s team folks.

by Rusty23 on Oct 27, 2009 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Though

benching Russell and growing a set shows there may be some hope for him out there.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 27, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I loved that

and I loved Marshall’s use of blitzing and zone coverages. You put up a Ray RAT post (I usually despise him) that was accurate. As coaches, why not do as you see fit and if you get canned, at this point, at least you tried.

by Rusty23 on Oct 27, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Song Remains the Same

We need a quarterback who can manage the ball and lead us down the field.

Not going to happen. Cable says he is still committed to Russell, who will start Sunday against the Chargers.

by K. Hall on Oct 26, 2009 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Is he commited or is DAVIS commited? (not commitable)

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 27, 2009 4:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

JRussell aka Al Davis

Russell takes no blame for his lousy play, as Al Davis takes no blame for the product he puts out on the field. Both of them think its everybody else’s fault.
Two peas in a POD

by john2260 on Oct 27, 2009 7:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Wait....

hey guys new to the site.. huge raider fan.. surfing the web and came across u guys .. thought id join in.. didnt we have a second string QB in Jeff Garcia.. a proven winner a guy that can lead touchdown drives… how did JR win the battle for QB? i was terrable shocked and ticked off when i heard Garcia was cut.. cut how do u just cut the guy? we have?had how many Qbs of the summer and u cut him.. a proven winner? im not a huge fan of B Grad as our starting QB but wouldnt it been nice to see well.. JR isnt doing so well.. lets put in Garcia .. as like a change of pace a thrower not a runner like JR… who was the idiot that said lets cut Garcia?

by Skyehawk on Oct 28, 2009 4:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Garcia wanted out

and Russell was going to be the starter any way.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 28, 2009 4:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Plus how is it all JR’s fault ?u have to have guys around him to win….. not any one guy can do it alone.. it doesnt matter how good of a QB you are.. right? we have a young team i 100% agree the pick of this years draft DHB .. it wouldnt have been my firest choice but.. thats al for ya.. all bout the speed…. now maybe.. im going out on a limb hre guys so dont jump down my throat.. but maybe in a couple of years.. if we somehow get some talent around JR… keep Mcfadden and DHB and build from that ? i dont know guys.. what do u think?

by Skyehawk on Oct 28, 2009 4:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I think

That Russell has proven he has no desire to improve. He thinks he’s doing just fine. He doesn’t take the blame for his mistakes and tries to pass it on to others. Even with the shaky o-line it doesn’t explain his passes to the moon and the ones that not even a ant could catch they’re so low. His QB coach, his head coach, and Davis himself say he’s not performing up to par.

Yes we have rookie WR’s. But how are they going to develop if the QB doesn’t want to watch film and work hard to improve the fundamentals to get the ball to them? All the talent in the world can’t make a good QB if the QB doesn’t want to work to improve. And as the leader of the Offense, all he’s doing is sending the message he doesn’t care and killing the morale of team. And that is definitely bad.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 28, 2009 4:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs