A serious and very accurate conspiracy theory here

by iBleedSnB on Oct 28, 2009 1:01 PM PDT Comment 34 comments

Year after year, the Raiders have led the league or been at the top of the list in regards to penalties.

The Raiders have simply been described as an undisciplined team by announcers and analysts. This is what the franchise is known for.

Different players year after year. New coaches and personnel with new and different styles and philosiphies year after year.

For some strange reason though, the yellow flags are thrown against us, and the zebras score points for themselves. How many times can you remember converted 3rd downs called back for some sort of penalty? And on the flip side of that, how many times have you seen the Raiders kill a drive only to have it brought back to life by a ghost pass interfernce or defensive holding call? How many times have we had questionable calls against us? A few examples from this year alone would be the Murphy TD against the Chargers and the pick 6 for Route against the Eagles.

The infamous "TUCK RULE". Never heard of before that "SNOW JOB" game, and never heard or seen since.

A great game, by two very good teams. Fovever known, not for the play on the field. Not even for the droves of snow that fell on the field throughout the game. Fovever etched in our minds for Charles Woodson forcing Tom Brady to FUMBLE the ball and the Raiders recovery. Only to be overturned for the bullshit "tuck rule".

That game was basically over when Greg Biekert fell on top of the ball. The zebras and the NFL couldn't allow it to end that way for the Patriots.

Can anyone remember any kind of major event that had happened only a few months before this game? Think for a second.

9/11

Many of us may easily be able to remember where we were and what we were doing when that all took place. We can also remember everyone coming together, waving their flags in show of their patriotism.

What better way, for america's game (no not baseball), to have this heart warming story of a "Patriots" team winning the Super Bowl. What better way to get America back on track than to have a story like this that everyone, young and old, football fan or not get behind and smile.

NFL'S PATRIOTS WIN SUPER BOWL XXXVI

So you can believe there was no way the Oakland Raiders were gonna be allowed the chance to ruin the NFL's grand scheme.

Sure it is well known that Super Bowl teams don't have the greatest season the following year. But for the Raiders to have the bottom complete fall out like this. Years of 11 plus losses. Can there really be more to this story?

Now try to stay with me on this one. When was the last time you read or heard some kind of national report of any kind of good news regarding the Oakland Raiders? Probably never.

No matter what moves the Raiders make, it's all bad. Even when we traded for Richard Seymour, it was portrayed as all bad. He was a Super Bowl Champ we acquired for his leadership and tremendous skills. Two things the media said this team lacked. We got traded away some draft picks, which the media said we don't use very well anyway. So we basically got something great for something we had that we didn't use great. Sounds like we did something good right?

Not by the media standards. It was basically a dumb move by Al Davis. He gave away to much. He was said to be the Patriots idiot step brother for continually giving the Patriots quality for close to nothing. The media jumped all over the fact that Richard didn't immediately report to camp. "Speculation" and spectulation only, had all the reports on ESPN and NFL Network saying he didn't want to come to Oakland, and who could blame him. When he finally did report to the Raiders, he came out and said he had family to worry about and their livelyhood to take care of first before he could just up and leave the east coast for the west coast. Of course the media wouldn't have anyone believe that though. These are the Raiders we're talking about here. Nothing can ever go right there.

So here we have a horrible name put out there in the media 24/7, whether it be tv, radio or the internet, which has everyone and there momma to believe this is the most dysfuntional franchise ever created.

We have ridiculous calls and penalties against us game after game that kills our offensive drives and prolongs opponents clock consumption.

You don't think these two things alone will kill a teams sense of family and self esteem.

Basically being called shit and the outcomes of the games coming out to look like shit.

How would you wake up every morning and put on your suit and tie, hard hat and boots, or whatever you wear to work with this image of yourself everywhere you look?

The sad part about it is now we, THE RAIDER NATION, are now truely buying into this fucking bullshit!!!! Talks of rooting for our second favorite team the rest of the year. Talks of boycotting games. Even talks of going to JR's house to give him a piece of your mind.

WAKE UP and don't let the shit you read,hear, and see continue to pollute your minds. Do any of you bale on your kids when they bring some failing grades home from school?

Here's an article I came across that got me to write this fanpost. Lots to open your eyes to here.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/272717-why-raider-hatred-and-why-they-want-raiders-to-lose

Stay strong RAIDER NATION. Don't be lost by the chaos and confusion the media force feeds you.

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I like blaming everyone but Oakland too...

I do it every game. “Fuck the Refs” I say as the clock winds down. But, you are onto something here. It is wierd how we would trade Randy Moss, a future hall of famer, for a 4th round pick. Any other team would have given up a 1st rounder for him. But, At the end of the day, its all on the players backs. Their the one out there.

by Remix. on Oct 28, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

......

I don’t know that I agree with that. Moss was 30 years old, had off-the-field problems and played like he didn’t care as he posted this season:

42 catches, 553 yards, 3 TDs.

Nobody wanted him because they thought he’d ask for big money (he didn’t), they thought he’d have off-the-field problems (he hasn’t), they thought he wouldn’t try hard (hasn’t really been an issue) and they thought he was finished (a skinny guy who had been hit hard too many times).

You could argue that you may have gotten a 3rd round pick for him from Dallas, but they already had T.O. Really the only two places Moss would’ve been wanted was Oakland and New England, because those were the only two teams that still thought he had anything left.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John (obviousman) on Oct 29, 2009 3:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great tales need a villain

With the exception of the West, America loves the clean-cut all-American types. Heroes who don’t smoke, drink, or curse. To contrast these stereotypical role-models such as “America’s Team” and, as you suggest, the Patriots) they require a villain. The Raiders serve that role better than any other professional sports franchise. In fact, the role of villain best characterizes them. To this we owe Al Davis our gratitude. So, yes, I do think we are persecuted – it’s the price of exploiting the villain role for decades.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 29, 2009 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The 70s teams were seemed as just as “villainous”, if not moreso.

I think the “tuck rule” was a bad, stupid call that Raiders fans have been obsessing over for far too long. It had nothing to do with 9/11. It had nothing with trying to make the “Patriots” win the super bowl simply because of their name. It was a bad call that the NFL won’t admit to because it taints the history of the league.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John (obviousman) on Oct 29, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, it was a BAD CALL!

And us Raider fans have known for a long time the refs hate the raiders.

This isn’t going away any time soon.

Until the hated owner gives up control, we will be persecuded.

"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "

by RUKidding on Oct 31, 2009 3:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

so you got screwed a few times...so what!

Okay..okay. So the Raiders have been screwed a few times, so what! You cant be serious when you say that this is the reason for a miserable past 7 years….can you? Do you really think that NFL players care what the media says? Its all about talent, scheme, and motivation, and the Raiders have very little of all three. The defense is the one exception, a very talented group, but without the help of ANY offense, they too have begun to look badly. It hard when you offense goes 3 and out, or turns the ball over in your own territory on most possessions. Then you add terrible draft choices and a coaching staff that is powerless in regard to on the field decisions and you end up with an embarrassment of a franchise. I know its easier to bury your head in the sand and keep saying to yourself that its all someone elses fault, but wake up and smell the sh*t that is your team. Its not the penalties that are keeping you from winning, its the organization.

by krock619 on Oct 29, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Decline followed ...

not that having the game taken away from us brought on the decline but it does historically mark the tragic moment when it began. I’m prepared for Raider persecution expecting even home games are rigged to some degree. One thing that hasn’t changed from glory years is leaving the other side strewn all over the field writhing in pain. Last Sunday I saw at least five Jets assisted off the field. Go read their injury report – I wonder if they’ll have enough players for Miami. This type of punishment doesn’t happen with arm tackling – those few Raiders who wuss-out also stand out; this gives the false impression that the Defense is weaker than it really is.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 29, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

BWAAAAAAHHHAHHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

hilarious

MARK IT ZERO!!!!
Dude, this is a league game, this determines who enters the next round robin. Am I wrong? Am I wrong?
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.

by waltersobchakbronco on Oct 29, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

obviously

some of you aren’t even reading the link at the bottom of the post. I had some of my own thoughts at the beginning of this post, but the link has a whole lot more that would make you think twice.

by iBleedSnB on Oct 29, 2009 3:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

That's what made me belly laugh for the past 2 hours!

MARK IT ZERO!!!!
Dude, this is a league game, this determines who enters the next round robin. Am I wrong? Am I wrong?
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.

by waltersobchakbronco on Oct 29, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didn't need to read it (but did)

The Colorado Boy hasn’t been following Oakland for long or he wouldn’t need to be convinced of this bias. I’ll tell you flat out the Raiders play dirty, always have, but were so good at it they were seldom caught. The refs knew because it was seen later on film, so they, at least, would call equalizing penalties to cover the stuff they missed. As for the conspiracy theory, that it starts with the owner’s of stock in teams that want “the criminal element” out, well, I never thought it was a money consideration but only hatred. If it’s true and money is the consideration then they’re fools b/c the Raiders (when they play well) fill an essential place in the fan-base, as I’ve said before, they are the villains. You can’t have a great story, opera, play, you name it, without a great villain. Thank you.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 29, 2009 4:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't believe there's a conspiracy...

I think the downfall came from the sudden decline of some old players in 2003, bad drafting, and looking for quick-fix solutions. But here’s food for thought…

Say the Raiders win the Tuck Rule game, and go on to beat the Steelers. They beat the Rams in the Super Bowl that year, and Gruden stays on, since not even Al can fire a Super Bowl winning coach. They repeat in 2002 with a new wide-open offense, and without Gruden’s knowledge working against them, they take home the second trophy in two years. Al Davis retires as the greatest owner/GM in football history (after all, he’s said he will after 2 more championships). New blood is brought in to run the team, and after a brief downturn in 2003 as they clean house and start over, the Raiders continue to be the winningest franchise in pro sports.

by peetah on Oct 30, 2009 9:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Whoa!

One too many sipps off of uncle Al’s kool-aid jar!

MARK IT ZERO!!!!
Dude, this is a league game, this determines who enters the next round robin. Am I wrong? Am I wrong?
You mark that frame an 8, and you're entering a world of pain.

by waltersobchakbronco on Oct 30, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Peetah

Had a theory that had nothing to do with “sipping Al’s kool-aid.” Did you actually read it? Do you what drinking Al’s kool-aid atcually means? Not that I agree with Peetah’s theory one bit but if you’re going to be a “good” troll, you’ll have to do better than that.

by Rusty23 on Oct 31, 2009 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The league has it out for us!

Come on now,if you were suing someone,you think there going to do you any favors?heck no!there gonna try their hardest to screw with you in everyway they can! look at how far the nfl has come,money wise. look at how many owners say if it werent for AL they would have never been able to get in the league! flashforward and look whats gonna happen at the end of next year with the player agreement.the teams who bring in the most outside money are gonna be the ones signing the big names! their the ones with all the money to waste! now look at oakland the city,aint alot of money out there! all the fans already go to 49ers games! now go back to before we move back to oakland. Al wanted a new stadium in L.A.,the league wouldnt build it,but yet they came out with the ravens,the jags,the panthers and built the rams one in st.louie! And because of that player agreement I feel that if we cant get into the stadium in L.A.,we wont have the revenue to compete,yet forcing Al into the blackhole of retirement!

by LaRaider on Oct 30, 2009 2:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

The Tuck Rule play

It was called correctly. Read the rule, and watch the replay. Tough rule, tough circumstances, but it was the correct call.

IT is, and it's impossible for IT not to be.
Parmenides (5th Century B. C. Greek)

by bradley on Oct 30, 2009 5:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Is this Bradley or Brady?

iBleedSnB is absolutly correct that the Refs wern’t going to let us win.

"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "

by RUKidding on Oct 31, 2009 3:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe you're right that the Refs...

….weren’t going to let the Raiders win. They made a lot of suspicious calls against the Seahawks in their SB a few years ago.
But Brady’s arm started forward, then he started to pull it back, but hadn’t gotten it all the way back when the ball came out, so it was an incomplete pass, not a fumble. That’s what the rule says, and that’w what the replay showed.

IT is, and it's impossible for IT not to be.
Parmenides (5th Century B. C. Greek)

by bradley on Oct 31, 2009 5:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry

I’ve watched the play a ton and never saw it that way. That said, as much as I want to believe in conspiracy theories, I don’t. If we played better football, none of this crap would matter.

by Rusty23 on Oct 31, 2009 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How did you see the play happening?

IT is, and it's impossible for IT not to be.
Parmenides (5th Century B. C. Greek)

by bradley on Oct 31, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It has been shown on tv from multiple angles in slow motion...

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 31, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But what I'm asking is...

…what did that show? I’m a Broncos fan, but I wanted the Raiders to win that game (AFC West fan) and I watched all the replays and what I saw is what I said above –

But Brady’s arm started forward, then he started to pull it back, but hadn’t gotten it all the way back when the ball came out, so it was an incomplete pass, not a fumble. That’s what the rule says, and that’w what the replay showed.

So if you saw something different, I’d like to know. Really, this has been a big play and I’m interested. I have a very good friend who is a lifelong Raider fan, and we talk about it.

IT is, and it's impossible for IT not to be.
Parmenides (5th Century B. C. Greek)

by bradley on Oct 31, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think it was a fumble. I wasn't agreeing w/ him

just pointing out how he saw it.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Oct 31, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Freakin' hilarious!!!

Reading this cracked me up! This is about the funniest thing I’ve ever read!!! Not only is it stupid, but whoever wrote it is a moron, too!!!

C’mon, dude. First of all, try using spell-check before posting. By not using a spell checker, you sound as stupid as the rest of the world thinks raider fan is. Secondly, stop crying about the past! And if you do, at least come up with a half decent argument as to why you’re crying. It makes you sound like a little bitch.

That’s what wrong with you people. All you do is talk about what happened and not about what is happening or what will happen. Freakin’ pathetic!!!

by Al Davis' Nutsack on Oct 31, 2009 2:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Welcome to Silver & Black Pride

As a member of “you people,” I would like to point out that there are very few posts like this on this board. In fact, the vast majority of the folks here, if they do talk about the past, are more likely to discuss the last few drafts (success and failure), where we have been falling short and what we need to do to get better. By the way, your grammar sucks. Before ripping anyone, please review what you want to post before actually posting it. Cute name by the way.

by Rusty23 on Oct 31, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

again

yet another idiot just running his mouth withou reading the article linked to this post. And i’m pretty sure there might be one or two things not spelled correctly. But that would actually make you the moron for having to only depend on spell-check to tell you whether you know how to spell or not.
Glad to see you had no point or argument at all. I guess that would make you the bitch or just as bad as girls who hate on other girls for what they were and look like. Straight Bitchmade!!!!
So let the two braincells you have left that are fighting with each other know that you need some kind of point before you can talk shit. Until then keep your Bitchmade Haterism to yourself

by iBleedSnB on Oct 31, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was for Al Davis' Nutsack

pretty accurate name actually

by iBleedSnB on Oct 31, 2009 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Again, freakin' hilarious!!!

You people never cease to make me laugh! The way you people think, if it weren’t for the refs and “conspiracy theories,” the raiders would never lose! How stupid are you people? Really. If you believe there’s a conspiracy against the raiders, you need to remove the crack pipe from your mouth.

To even think there’s a conspiracy is moronic and just goes to show how “truely” (as you people like to spell it) pathetic you are. What’s next? Are you going to blame the refs for not being able to sell out home games? Are you going to blame the Commissioner for your draft selections? Who are you going to blame next for being unemployed convicts? Who are you going to blame for your parents being siblings? Who are you going to blame for your genetic defects? Blame, blame, blame. That’s all you people do. That’s all you’ll EVER do.

Admit it, raider fan. You watch the raiders on TV…oh, wait, they’re NEVER on TV, locally or nationally…and wait for that one moment in the game where you can blame the refs for changing the game in favor of whoever the raiders are playing. All you people ever do is look for excuses. Well, the truth is the refs don’t lose games for the raiders. The raiders flat out suck! The refs aren’t the ones throwing passes 10 yards out of bounds. The refs aren’t the ones calling the plays. The refs aren’t the ones quitting in the middle of games. The refs aren’t the ones drafting inept players because they’re fast or can throw a ball 80 yards. The refs aren’t the ones living in the past. The refs aren’t the ones brainwashing fans with an “Us v. The World” mentality. The refs aren’t the ones the ones to blame. You are.

by Al Davis' Nutsack on Oct 31, 2009 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

so you still haven't read the link

take a second to read the link, then you can open your bitchmade mouth some more

by iBleedSnB on Nov 1, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

... and closer to Al's ...

hole than the Black one.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 31, 2009 4:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I read the link...

And I can see some of the points.

55/45 Al Davis? You might want to push that ratio up a little more in his favor.

Now, I am a Denver Broncos fan. I hate the Raiders. When they lose it makes me happy. Please see my bias from the beginning, but don’t push me out.

I can see how a “theory” could be out there for the NFL to want to push Mr. Davis out of the league. Why?

Al has been against the “Establishment” from the beginning.

Al’s way. The Raider way. Bad Boys sticking it to league. The examples could go on and on.

You could almost compare him to the main characters in The Matrix Trilogy movies.
Neo and Mr. Smith. Two sides of the same coin.

Except Al isn’t finding different ways to protect his own Raider Nation (Neo) and by always trying to *uck the system up he leaves everything destroyed in his wake (Mr. Smith).

So I could see it being out there. The NFL needs a bad guy. But, Al has asked for it. All of it. And he has gotten it. I can’t buy the “woe is us” junk at all.

For the Raiders to be sucessful at all, ever, he has to give up control.

When he does that, the league will pick on someone else. I can’t think of anyone else right now, but they will.

Redskins maybe…

by precisiontint on Nov 2, 2009 11:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Jesus Christ

This is the type of garbage that makes me ashamed to be a Raider fan and makes the rest of the league think that we are a bunch of mongoloid mouth-breathers. The only thing you really need to do to see that the refs might not be the ones holding the team back is to watch the Raiders play and see Al Davis ridiculous draft picks playing worse than most Pop Warner teams. I agree the tuck-rule was a stupid and infuriating call, but it is a rule in the rule books, not something the refs made up. I cannot believe that you are argueing that the refs called that because of an NFL conspiracy to make the Patriots the world champions because their fucking name is the Patriots and the NFL thought that having a team named that win the title would warm Americas heart after 9/11??? What the fuck? How many people do you think saw that the Patriots won and gave two shits that their name is vaguely patriotic? What possible gain would the NFL get from this? Sure, the refs do call a lot of penalties against the Raiders, and maybe they don’t love us, but we’ve also traditionally had teams that didn’t exactly emphasize following the rules. I guarantee you that if this team got every single call their way this season our record would not be a single game better. In case you’re too blind to see it, the reason we suck is that AL DAVIS IS A SENILE MORON WHO CAN NOT RUN A FOOTBALL TEAM.

by yo on Nov 3, 2009 5:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

i'll chalk you up to another one that didn't read the link

Can you think back to when the Red Sox came back to beat the Yankees back in 2004 when they came back from being down 3-1? They then went on to sweep the Cardinals in the World Series for their first title in 86 years.
I remember going to the bar to watch the games of both series. No one was a Red Sox fan, but yet we were all rooting them on as if they were our own A’s winning. It felt good to see them break out and finally win a world series.
Don’t give me any kind of shit that people don’t feel good inside when something great in sports like that happens. It gives people hope and a feeling of belonging and can take you away from whatever problems you might have in your life.
Why the fuck do you think sports movies are so great and heart warming? Hoosiers, Rudy, Remember the Titans, etc.
You sound like the same person who trusts all cops and don’t think any of them are corrupt or racial profile. Get your head up out of the sand

by iBleedSnB on Nov 4, 2009 9:59 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

You are nuts

Yeah, great sports moments make people feel good. Fortunately the NFL doesn’t really need to fix games to create these, since they happen organically, and if anything leaked about the LEAGUE FIXING GAMES it would DESTROY the NFL. Why the hell would they do this and risk a billion dollar empire just to give the Superbowl to the Patriots, a team which at the time was not popular at all, just because their name sounds patriotic and people might like to hear that after 9/11? Other than the tuck rule game, what evidence is there that they fixed games for the Pats? And how did the NFL fix it so that the Patriots winning would be a “great moment” in sports? Considering that they were double-digit underdogs and considered greatly inferior to the Rams, don’t you think the league would rather have had the Raiders or another powerful team win so that the superbowl wouldn’t have been a blowout like it was expected to be against the Patriots? Since there wasn’t any evidence of league intervention giving the Patriots that win, what happened? Did the NFL computer generate the whole game to make sure that it was a good game and not a blow out? Did the NFL also purposely injure Bledsoe and create a cybernetic Tom Brady robot that they knew would lead them to the title? You give all Raiders’ fans a god damn horrible name by posting shit like this that makes us all look like mentally disabled conspiracy theorists who will go to any lengths to blame everyone for our team being god awful instead of just admitting that we fucking suck because we are a terrible run team. Did the league force us to draft Russel, Hay-Bay, trade away our picks for DeAngelo and then cut them, give massive contracts to people like him and Javon Walker, fire and hire new terrible coaches every year, and generally operate in a manner that makes most people consider us the worst run franchise in sports?

by yo on Nov 19, 2009 2:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs