Oakland Raiders Football:Game Thread Week 4
by TheRaiderWay on Oct 4, 2009 6:30 AM PDT
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Regular Season Week 4
Television: CBS
Line: Texans by 8.5 points
Week 4 of the regular season has the Raiders traveling to Houston to face the Texans for the 5th time in their relatively young series since 2002. The Texans lead the series 3-1, but the Raiders came a way with a convincing victory last season in Oakland to notch their first win against the Texans, which incidentally was JaMarcus Russell's best start for Oakland.
The Raiders will be facing a Texans team that is giving up a league-high 436.3 yards per game and has allowed an average of 204.7 rush yards per game while garnering just two sacks in 2009 -- both numbers are worst in the NFL.
Well, with that, you'd think or you would hope that Tom Cable's game plan will be to run, run and run some more. But that is what we though the last couple of weeks and what we got was pure disaster from JaMarcus Russell's passing. Certainly, all eyes again will be on Russell to see if he is going to show any sign of an ability to improve from the last two dismal weeks. Then again, when the Raiders have run the ball, the results have been less than inspiring, with McFadden's fumblitis and the Raiders overall lack of commitment to the run game. They will need to commit to a smart and solid offensive game plan in order to keep the defense off the field. The Raiders defense is going to only be able to handle so many more 3 and outs.
For that matter, whether or not the Raiders' offensive woes are the reasons for the Raiders defense to be sliding, the Raiders defense will be tested by Matt Schaub, Andre Johnson & co and will really have to step up today. Getting some pressure of Schaub and forcing some turnovers would be nice too.
The real face of the franchise and team leader, Nnamdi Asomugha has stated that the Raiders are "real close" to turning this around. That would be music to Raider Nation's ears and as Saint stated: The time is now! Sunday is the day!
Enjoy the game...Let's go R-A-I-D-E-R-S!!!
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Oakland Raiders Injury Report
Out:
G Robert Gallery (fibula)
WR Nick Miller (shin)
Doubtful:
WR Chaz Schilens (foot)
Questionable:
S Hiram Eugene (calf)
Probable:
CB Nnamdi Asomugha (wrist)
WR Johnnie Lee Higgins (shoulder)
WR Jonathan Holland (elbow)
S Michael Huff (ribs)
FB Luke Lawton (hamstring)
S Mike Mitchell (thumb)
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 9:12 AM PDT reply actions
damn
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 4, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Houston Texans Injury Report
Out:
CB Antwaun Molden (quadricep)
CB Jacques Reeves (finger)
Doubtful:
TE Anthony Hill (illness)
Questionable:
T Duane Brown (illness)
WR David Anderson (back)
HB Chris Brown (shin)
TE Joel Dreessen (hip)
Probable:
DT Shaun Cody (knee)
LB Brian Cushing (shoulder)
WR Andre Davis (concussion)
DT Amobi Okoye (back)
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 9:15 AM PDT reply actions
Eugene Wilson
Eugene Wilson was not listed on the injury report, but he won’t play today.
Houston safety Eugene Wilson did not feel well Sunday and was inactive against the Oakland Raiders, but the team says he does not have swine flu.
Texans rookie tight end Anthony Hill was hospitalized this week with swine flu in the first confirmed case in an NFL player this season. Hill is the only player on the team believed to have swine flu and other players are being monitored.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I am loving my new phone!
I am posting from my Palm Pre. This is sickJ
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 4, 2009 9:15 AM PDT reply actions
JRuss
Can anybody confirm or deny what CBS is saying about Russell missing meeting and being fined for being over wieght? Please tell me they are just hatin’ on the Raiders!
I live, breath and breed Silver and Black!
False
They were just messing around.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Tom Jackson
On another “messing around” note, Tom Jackson wasn’t sure if the Buccaneers could get a win against the Pac-10. Thanks for the irrational hate on the Pac-10, Tommy.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I Think What he Meant Was...
Well, Nevermind…Screw Tom Jackson!
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 4, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I am Nervous!
A win means that our football season is still alive and well…A loss means we are on life support!
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 4, 2009 9:36 AM PDT reply actions
Disagree
I disagree with the short kick.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:03 AM PDT reply actions
Sacked
That was nice.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:07 AM PDT reply actions
Anyone got a tv link?
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
TV Link
You can try here.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Score Alerts
The Patriots have a 3-0 lead on the Ravens and the Giants have a 7-0 lead on the Chiefs.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions
3 and out sucks
But Russell 2 for 2.
He’s shocking decent when flushed out of the pocket.
Baby steps.
Score Alert
The Buccaneers have a 7-0 lead over the Redskins. Josh Johnson found Antonio Bryant for an eight-yard touchdown.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:14 AM PDT reply actions
Jim Zorn gets fired tomorrow if the Bucs win
Could be wrong, but Daniel Snyder has less patience than Al Davis.
By the way, I heard Papa say that the Texans have a rookie...
…covering DHB.
I know Hey-Bey is a rookie too, but maybe a rookie CB wouldn’t know how to deal with speed like his?
Well, that's about as pleased as I can be from a 3 and out.
Russell looks…good. Well, he made two throws, at least.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
Andre Johnson
The Texans were looking for him on that play.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:15 AM PDT reply actions
Seriously?
How is he left that wide open?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:16 AM PDT reply actions
It was.
Chris thought he read Andre on a post, and tried to pick it off. Andre ran a streak.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
Defense
They did their job in the red zone.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:18 AM PDT reply actions
Take out one (brutal) mistake on Chris Johnson,
And the defense is playing great.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
Coverage
It depends on where Andre Johnson is lined up offensively.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Breast Cancer Awareness
It’s good that the NFL is doing this.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:21 AM PDT reply actions
Cushing
He has more tackles than Ryans.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:21 AM PDT reply actions
Jamarcus is two for two
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 4, 2009 10:22 AM PDT reply actions
Sack
It wasn’t really Russell’s fault. He had basically no time to react.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Getting Rid of the Ball
He was in the pocket.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
He has to have time
Carlisle was in his face by the time he’d finished his drop.
So every sack given up in the league is the QB’s fault? Or just Russell’s?
Dammit, I hate when they throw in the towel like that
I mean, why the hell not have JaMarcus chuck it down the field? This team isn’t very good, so why not call some bold plays?
And we resigned Just Miller
so he can make dumb decisions again?
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Miller
He’s better at returning kicks than Holland and Rankin.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Higgins
He’s returning punts, at least.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
the o line is getting smoked!
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 4, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions
Fumble
It’s on the turf!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:28 AM PDT reply actions
Slaton
He was never touched by a Raider as he lost the ball, so it should be a fumble.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:29 AM PDT reply actions
refs better not screw us outta this one
ground cant cause a fumble, and since he wasnt down by contact it should be a fumble
Russell
That was a really good throw.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:30 AM PDT reply actions
Throw
He hit Miller on the sideline.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Now's about time for McFadden to fumble and kill the momentum
Just like last week!
Sorry, way too cynical
I love that Russell looked upfield and decided NOT to throw into coverage.
And then made a great throw to the sideline.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
Russell
He went to his security blanket.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
False Starts
That’s two straight now, man.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:31 AM PDT reply actions
Can Russell be forced out of the pocket ever ytime?
Seriously, he looks lost in the pocket but outside of it, he actually looks MORE comfortable.
This line is just awful without Gallery out
Mario Henderson is the only other O-lineman who would start on any other team in the league.
nice combo
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 4, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I lost count of how many times already...
….Flores has said “Russell was looking down the field for the home run”
Can we have receivers who run middle routes? Zach Miller is our ONLY mid-range threat.
Goddamn 70’s offense.
Stanford Routt
That was bad containment.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:36 AM PDT reply actions
Seriously, when you have a QB with accuracy issues...
….why do you always have recievers go deep? It makes ZERO sense.
other than the low pass to DHB
i would have to say JR is looking pretty good. thay low pass was catchable, but its gotta be a little higher for the receiver. the penalties really killed that drive
The good thing is
Even thought they gave up a big play the d-fence held and kept them to kicking a pig. If this o-line will stop snorting crack maybe will see this offense be productive today
Hahahahahah, hilarious!
I think the o-line must be on crack. No other explanation.
Well, except that they suck.
The problem is the D
will get tired after the 3rd and then we’re in trouble
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
raider luv
thats why smart coaches run the ball
by Black_lion474 on Oct 4, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Chris Johnson
It looked like he was burned again on the same side of the field.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions
By a different reciever.
But otherwise the same.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
If the other side had Nnamdi on it,
I would too.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
CJ, if you're gonna get beat...
….get beat by Andre Johnson. Don’t let Kevin Walter get the better of you.
How does Russell have
only 32 yds?
Don’t get me wrong I’m glad he’s 4/5 but still…..
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Forced to check it down
Because the receivers aren’t doing anything but running straight down the field and getting covered.
1st Q review:
Def. looking strong. 1 penalty by johnson which actually prevented a TD so it really wasn’t a bad penalty. nice sack. a few missed coverages by johnson for big yardage. other than that B+
Off. costly line penalties. JR looking pretty accurate though. gave up one sack. C+ for now.
tie game for now. Defense has been what has kept us in it so far. let’s hope Bush and/or McFadden can get on a roll and give the D a break
Lawton
That’s an easy grab, dude.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions
Miller's Return
He has been bad.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
McFadden's still hasn't rushed for a positive gain.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
With all the attention on JaMarcus
A lot of us have been missing the disturbing fact that McFadden is creeping close to bust status too.
It's the play calling.
He’s the one that scored the winning TD in KC
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Murphy
He must really think that the referees hate him.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:49 AM PDT reply actions
Murphy
He dragged his right foot in bounds. The ball was never bobbled.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions
Wasn't it ruled a catch on the field originally?
Shouldn’t the Texans have had to challenge that it was no catch?
Referees
They changed it late.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
If the ref there on the play calls it a catch...
how can the other refs come in and say no?
Cable Bumaye! Raiders Bumaye!
called catch
reversed, challenged!!!!!!!!! fuck man!!!!!!!!!!!!! we need this right here!!!!!!! it WAS a catch. he totally had control, toe was down. We better get this. this is where we put it in the endzone
The Catch
“I don’t think there’s any question about it,” says the commentator.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions
well I can't watch the game
so I’m listenting to papa and flores and watching on NFL site
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Ridiculous
This is ridiculous.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:53 AM PDT reply actions
Message to the fans of other teams:
I don’t know if the refs are really against the Raiders or not, but this is why a lot of us think so.
Slaton
That was a great run by him.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions
Gotta say, though, Louis Murphy is quickly becoming one of my favorite players on offense.
Up there with Zach Miller.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
Run defense is just awful
Every year too.
I don’t get it.
The personnel changes, but the problems stay the same.
Our momentum killed with a bullshit call
The other team scores.
This game is just about over. If we don’t score and the Texans score again before the half, I’m calling a blowout.
this is a game of momentum
come on JR, need you to rally the troops here and keep it together. offense needs to shake off that BS call and do what we need to do
would be nice to see
some ACCURATE Russell deep ball now.
we know he can do it, if he can just keep it under the stratosphere
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
The Game
It’s in danger of getting out of hand. We can’t play coming from behind. It gets really difficult if we get down by two touchdowns.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions
I really dont know how much more of this I can take.
6 years+ of this has made me hate football.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
I hear you, man.
It’s not just that we have a bad team. It’s horrible. And with all of the Al Davis antics…it’s rough.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
With no positive outlook on the future either,
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
it's not all the D" fault.
they’re running a marathon right now. They already gave the O three chances to do something and what? nothing
But the D allowed those runs and plays
So…um…yeah right now they’re blowing it.
yeah the o-line is sucking too, but we shouldn’t be allowing those plays
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Ugh...Louis.
Shake it off. You’re better than that.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
Russell
He went to Murphy on all three plays on that possession.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions
Drop drop drop drop drop
Say what you will about J-Russ and I have and will continue to. But he’s getting NO HELP.
well that ball was to high
It’s either to high or to low and WHEN Russell does make it, the WR drops it
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Yeah, we really can't fault Russell for this too much.
The team’s playing poorly. The whole team.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
No, it doesn't.
But it’s especially apparent in this game: Russell isn’t the only crippling player we have.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
no
our defense is dying.
What the fuck happened to the D in the KC game?
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Time to go grocery shopping and wash the Honda
I’ve got duty, I can’t waste time on this total shit.
It hurts, like it was said above six years should have been enough to be at least decent.
Tyvon Branch
What the hell was that? He ran right into Slaton.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions
I dont like Russle...
But it wouldnt hurt if we actually had.. ya know.. good receivers.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
3 blown coverages now
Except that touchdown run by Slaton, pratcially the whole Texans offensive production has come from those blown coverages.
“This is just pathetic.”—Tom Flores
we are an awful team
good thing for teams like the Chiefs Rams Browns Bucs…thank god for them that keeps us from being the worst team in the NFL
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
ROCKTOBER HAS BEGUN!
Buccaneers
They might beat the Redskins today.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
sadly enough yea
but then that adds the Skins to teams possibly worse than us because they would have lost to the Lions and Bucs already
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
ROCKTOBER HAS BEGUN!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Oct 4, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Ball Game
The game is over.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Oct 4, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions
with the texans run d the worst in the league and we pass it 3 striaght times what the fuck
MEAT IS MURDER!! mmm tasty bloody murder.
well they're stuffing McFadden
EVERY time (yes litereally every)
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
ouch
MEAT IS MURDER!! mmm tasty bloody murder.
by nationofblack on Oct 5, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm done.....
If the team doesn’t want to put in the effort and care then I won’t care either.
Cable Bumaye! Raiders Bumaye!
Predictions
Russell will be benched within two weeks.
Cable will be fired by midseason.
Nothing will change.
Except for the nothing will change part.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
I'm gonna take a shower, get a snack, take a nap, do some work....
…do about anything else at all.
It’s 20-3 now. It was 20-3 last week and that was one of the worst outings I’ve seen in a long time. This is worse.
I’m calling a 44-10 final score.
Nah, we'll score a meaningless touchdown with 8 minutes left in the game...
…when the Texans have stopped playing.
It's a great help to the opposing offense
that they know exactly what our defense will do on every play. Never change things up. I am hoping for more than 1 win this season but I’m not holding my breath. We are pathetic.
New mojo thred open
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 4, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions
haha new mojo thread for this team??
that works for my baseball team…i doubt it would work with this one
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
ROCKTOBER HAS BEGUN!
by TuLoRocks2008 on Oct 4, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
We didn't pack it in.
We moved to a new thread.
Lay down, black gives way to blue.
Lay down, I'll remember you.
Season Over
Count me out for the rest of the season. Cable is an idiot, JaMarcus is a bum, and Al Davis is s senile SOB! Anybody need tickets to the last 6 home PRESEASON games! 7 years of the worst football in NFL history!
It's official, The Raiders are the worst team in the league
How many negatives does this team have? Way too much. Caution: The G-Men are next, last week Raiders scored 3, today only 6, next week 0 points will be more likely for the these bunch of losers. At least we all get to watch it happen live on T.V. You know that the Eagle game in Oakland and the rest of the home games will be blacked out locally. I ask you Raider fans, Where is the support? How come you don’t attend the home games? I thought they lowered the ticket costs a few years ago, the least you could do is support the worst team in the league. This futile team will continue to set and break records for yet another season like: the lowest points in a season, allowing the most yardage against the opposing running backs, setting a record for the most fired head coaches in a ten year period, a record for the most turnovers in a season, the most Q.B. chages in a decade, the most bust picks in the draft in a decade, and so many more. Let’s see how many of these records Oakland will set this season, so far their on their way to setting the lowest pionts in a season.
Where is the support??? LMAO!!
Someone actually has the nerve to ask WHY people are NOT spending their hard earned money paying for overpriced tickets and jerseys that will be no good next year bcuz they were stupid enough to get the Moss or Jabuster Russell or Seymour or Heyward-GAY (or some other player that is either a complete bust or will not be here next year) jersey they wanted so badlyj which only serves to stuff the bank account of decaying and decomposing owner who only cares about money and does not give a s.hi.t about the fans or winning and has done nothing in the past decade to make this a better team! That is hilarious!! Yeah.. let me write Alzheimer Al a personal check!! It’s one thing to be a “fan”..it’s another to be an idiotic lemming serving as Alzheimer Al’s personal ATM! We will l ALWAYS be complete garbage as long as decomposing Davis is in control. I’m a Raider fan but have been a Davis hater since he first moved the team to LA… and will always hate him…he is human garbage!
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