What's After Al Davis?
by Remix. on Nov 12, 2009 2:43 PM PST
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There are many in the Raider Nation calling on Al Davis to sell the team, or at least step aside. There even appeared to be a movement to dethrone the Emperor of the Raiders. There are some who feel that anyone would be preferable to Al, but there is also the saying about the devil you know being better than the devil you don't know.
Al Davis is 80 years old, and it appears that his health is not what it once was. He missed his first game since 1979 when he did not make the trip to Tampa Bay last year for the final game of the season due to a knee injury. He moves with the aid of a walker. Those around him say that he is still sharp as ever, even though he seems less coherent in each of his public appearances. The time is nearing when Davis will no longer be in control of the Raiders, whether by his choice or by his no longer being of this Earth.
From his arrival in 1963, he has become not only the face of the Raiders, but also their heart and soul. He changed the color scheme from the black, white, and gold to the now ubiquitous Silver and Black because he wanted them to have a tougher image. It is his renegade spirit and desire for domination that became the essence of the Raider mystique. There is no other sporting franchise that is so intertwined with its owner. Al Davis and the Raiders are synonymous, and he would have it no other way.
Davis is the last of a dying breed. Unlike any other currently in the NFL, he worked his way up from being an assistant coach, to head coach, to league commissioner to part owner of the team. Granted, he wrestled full ownership away from the other general partners through trickery, but that does not change that he is a football man first. No other owner in the NFL has the football pedigree that Davis built for himself.
Once Al steps aside from the Raiders, there will no longer be a voice in the league that roamed the sidelines. There will no longer be a voice that spent a lifetime dedicated to football. True, Davis has made many mistakes along the way. And even more enemies with his "us against the world" mentality. But, it was that very "us against the world" mentality that was once instilled upon his team that dominated the league.
The word from Alameda is that once Davis either passes away or steps aside the team will go to his son Mark. Until recently, Mark Davis has been out of sight. He was not seen at his dad's side learning the trade of running a football team. There is also the question of whether Mark would be able to keep the team. When Jack Kent Cooke passed away, his children had to sell the team because they could not pay the inheritance tax associated with the value of the Washington Redskins. Even if Mark does keep the team, does he have the same passion for football that Al has? Does Mark have the desire to keep the traditions of the Raiders alive, the very thing that makes the Raiders unlike the other 31 teams? Does he even want to run the team, or does he want to sell it off?
If the Raiders get just another billionaire running the team, will they respect what the Raiders are truly about? It is unlikely that any future owner could have the same passion for the team as Davis. The Raiders could easily be bought by an ownership group that favors the old Bidwell model, which is to make the money through revenue sharing and spend as little as possible because even a losing team is profitable in the NFL. The new ownership group could also want to change the colors and uniforms to attempt to spur sales of new Raiders gear, without respecting the traditions that go along with the Silver and Black.
Davis was a pioneer in the NFL, and it is obvious to all that he needs to bring in help to run the team. His decisions are not what they used to be. If he can bring in some young minds to help him, he can get them ready to take over for him when the inevitable happens. However, when it happens, that doesn't automatically mean things will change for the better for the Raiders as some believe. Davis has made the Raiders his life's work, and he has to be more disappointed than anyone else over the team's current state. God Bless Al Davis and let him go down as the greatest Raider to ever live. And everyone who is hoping for him to die, you all need to shut the hell up. When he does pass it will be a sad sad day in Raider Nation.
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I hardly here of ol marky boy nowadays. Good Post..I hope Al reads this and sheds a tear
RE-Committed To Exellence
by KnockUout on Nov 12, 2009 2:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thank You
I hope Al reads this as well. Ive always wanted to meet him.
by Remix. on Nov 12, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Post
I met Al in San Diego at JC Penneys with my family in Dec 1994. We were playing the Bolts in a Sunday night game. He asked my 2 kids for their address so he could send them a gift for Xmas. They would go to the mail box everyday to see if they had received anything…..needless to say they never received anything and after that year Al moved back to Oakland. Al Davis is a self promotor and is the best. He has built the Raider Nation all by himself and now he is tearing it down and it is so sad. It is his team and he can choose whatever he wants to do with it. ONE NATION….RAIDER NATION
by onecoolrdrfan on Nov 12, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Al
has grown on me. I love him like a father and hate him like a heroin addicted uncle. He’s destroying his Rep. But you still love him cause he is part of the Family.
by Remix. on Nov 12, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Al
Like they say you can’t teach an old horse new tricks. Al is the Raiders and it will be that way forever. It will be sad when he passes. So we are running into some real bad luck these days or is Al pulling the wool over our eyes again. Only Al knows what is going on and that is his right. I hope the Raiders Nation never dies….we are a very special group of fans. LONG LIVE THE RAIDER NATION
by onecoolrdrfan on Nov 12, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
how you mention the personal story of you and your kids, and then you turn a complete 180 and don’t even attack his character. What he did was just wrong, dude. Am i reading it right?
He asked my 2 kids for their address so he could send them a gift for Xmas. They would go to the mail box everyday to see if they had received anything…..needless to say they never received anything and after that year Al moved back to Oakland.
you follow that up with:
Al Davis is a self promotor and is the best.
Wow… just wow… i guess he really is the devil. a devil who had powers to manipulate his fans into loving him unconditionally. Ouch! that must suck big time.
by Waiting4JoshMorgan on Nov 14, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
GOD BLESS AL DAVIS
MAY HE BE KNOWN AS THE TRUE RAIDER
by Vanilla on Nov 12, 2009 2:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly
when Davis passes on the Raiders is to fall into a 3 prong set up. His son and Trask and I forget who the other person would be. I read an article some time ago. In fact had the Shell experiment worked out the 2nd time, he was to become Head of Football Operations after his 2nd tenure of coaching was up.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Nov 12, 2009 3:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Haha.
What’s after Al Davis? Winning records.
by slapchop on Nov 12, 2009 3:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
Dang, it just can’t get any worse right now. We don’t deserve this. I would never wish this upon anybody, probably not even our division rivals.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 12, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd wish this and more on the Broncos
by sirbed on Nov 13, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ehh...
I hate the Chargers more. That whole 12 straight losses thing is pissing me off
by Remix. on Nov 13, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too, and ain't it 13 now???
I hate those bastards; thankfully they remain horrible, and theres little threat of a playoff victory and Norv is on the campaign for coach of the year again!!!! Losers.
Interesting thing about Al is about 50% of the things he does these days end up making him look like a genius. The drafts, free agents, discarded players from elsewhere… The other 50% manifests itself in the team shooting themselves in the foot on Sundays, and the antiquated play calling and scheming and refusal to adjust.
And 50% falls into either category for two or three years and another Nnamdi emerges or the road we took the team down results in dead end and we’re back to square one.
One thing is for sure: A change is not a guarantee for the better, and though I hear the common blues song from Raider Nation that “it can’t get any worse.” It often does, somehow. So I’ll pray some miracle happens, and look forward to that day we see Al, with the assistance of a team of professionals, and the Raiders! hoisting the Lombardi trophy once again. Until then, let us hope Mark Davis, Amy Trask, and whoever else keep the Raider spirit alive, both now, and when the day comes for them to take over the reigns.
by brhynno on Nov 13, 2009 4:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would trade anything
Just to see Al’s face when he has the trophy above his head.
by Remix. on Nov 13, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Post and Very Well Stated!
After all, there are teams out there that have never even sniffed the amount of success that we have, and although it is becoming more challenging to be an elite team in the NFL, it is a different game today then it used to be. Therefore, the things that used to work, are not working at the moment. However, those same things have never always worked and it is not easy to make “quick fix” decisions that work. Nor is it easy to make “long term” decisions that work. Sometimes, both of those things work, one or the other of them work, or maybe neither of them work. And even when both things work, in relation to picking up talented players, either by free agency or draft, there are still many variables involved in being a successful team. But it still involves a lot of trial and error. We’re just going through more error with our trials lately, than in our successful past. It will work again sooner or later. But it’s Al that is running out of time. Not most of us, hopefully!
by WHITEMIKEFROMOAKLAND on Nov 12, 2009 5:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
post al davis
when al davis dies we will have
1) a gm
2) a coach that isnt a no-body looking to collect a check or make a name for himself then take his talents elsewhere
3) a person that isnt drafting players based on how far they can throw a football or how fast they can run the 40. but rather how well they play football. our draft(s) have been a fucking joke. dont even talk about: javon walker, deangleo hall, tommy kelly, richard seymore. who signed off on these retarded acquistions and contracts?
al davis is a senile has been. he has turned the raiders into a un-watchable, circus side show, laughing stock.
lane kiffin begged him not to draft that fat worthless jamarcus and now we are stuck w/ that turd. who is laughing last on that one Al? Tennese paid Kiffin and we got Jamarcus.
I for one will continue to pray for Al Davis to kick the bucket asap!. F him
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Nov 12, 2009 6:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
People like you
People like you need to stop watching sports, get a life and find a new hobby. Wishing death upon a man because you believe he is the problem to a sports team. Al is a NFL legend. You are nobody. Your opinion means nothing to me because your scum. I don’t want to see your low life piece of shit comments again. The man has a family for goodness sake. Do you have no soul? I dint even know people like you had a computer to waste away your life on. Dont even dare to call yourself a Raider Fan. You don’t deserve to call yourself that.
by Remix. on Nov 12, 2009 10:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No Fan
Don’t worry Remix….he sounds like one of the drunks we run into at the games that do not know anything about football or people. They just go so they will be able to tell people they were there. Must we never forget Al doesn’t play on the field. The players have no drive and that alone is breaking all our hearts. Mr Davis bleeds more that anyother Raider fans. Without Mr Davis we are just another team. We are the Raider Nation because of him.
by onecoolrdrfan on Nov 12, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love the raiders
but i cant even watch football anymore it doesnt interest me. all i seem to care about these days is the lakers
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
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by Czheck on Nov 12, 2009 7:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
?
Is it cause you just not interested or cause were losing now?
by Remix. on Nov 12, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If it's the former
maybe he should go to their blog.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Nov 12, 2009 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
By the Way
Thank you to whoever put this on the Home Page
by Remix. on Nov 12, 2009 9:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Brilliant Post Remix.
Couldn’t agree more with basically everything. If the team IS sold from the Davis family i cannot see them selling to anyone who does not have the Raiders team on the field as the number one priority and they would obviously have total control of who they sell to.
I cannot see really imagine without Mr Davis but i hope when he eventually does move on that Mark would keep the team and hire a GM.
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
by Ozraider on Nov 12, 2009 9:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I would love...
it if they keep the Raiders in the Davis name. You Know..I just Hope mark has his fathers personality. I hope he inherited more than the team from his father.
by Remix. on Nov 12, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Like Father like Son
I’m sure Mark is just like his ole man in alot of ways. We all have some of our Fathers in all of us. If he changed things Al would come out of the grave and kick his butt.
by onecoolrdrfan on Nov 12, 2009 10:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny thing is..
With todays high technology and his amount of money. He may never pass away. He might become a half robot half man thing. haha.jk..had to quote Ricky Bobby.
by Remix. on Nov 12, 2009 10:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
if there is anyone who i would not be suprised if they were the first to try it it would be Al Davis
just because he wouldn’t want to leave the Raiders.
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
by Ozraider on Nov 12, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Chills
I sold a couple of my tickets to a couple from Washington State for the Eagles game. I was next to the lady when The Raiders came out of the tunnel. She poked me in the side and said to me ….look at my goose bumps. She hand googe bumps up and down her arms. Even after a rough few years we still love our Raiders. We will be back and we will not take any band\wagoners.
by onecoolrdrfan on Nov 12, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Post Remix
I’ve been thinking for the last couple of years about the same thing’s but I could never put it into words. I wish all Raiders Fans had the chance to read it. The day is coming and it will be real sad for the whole Raider Nation.
by onecoolrdrfan on Nov 12, 2009 9:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Look at NY
The Boss in New York had his boy’s take over and look what they did. It can happen and lets pray that when that day comes it happens in the same way. Keep the Raider Pride forever
by onecoolrdrfan on Nov 12, 2009 10:00 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
well said, Remix
and it’s true. Be careful what you wish for, because you never know what you’re going to get.
I’ve never been one to hate on Al, but am in agreement he’s in need of help. I’m afraid without the right help most of his well meaning “overseeing” will have to be considered interference with the team’s chance for success, but don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see it! I would also like to see them keep it in the family, and hope his son personnifies what Al has for so many years.
by brhynno on Nov 12, 2009 11:35 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
If you wish Al Davis to die, you are not a true Raider.
Al is the Raiders. The heart and soul, he was our true begining. yes he’s made his share of bad mistakes but he is a master mind of football. Do you know what he has done to change this sport.? He is old now, you can expect him to be a mastermind forever. I have been angry about his decision but doesn’t mean people should wish death upon him. If you are one of those people who wish Al Davis would die already…. You are not a true Raider… Plain and simple… You might as well be rooting for the Chiefs this Saturday because The raiders wouldn’t be the Raiders if it weren’t for Al Davis… Just hope the Raiders can bring a Super Bowl ring to him before his time comes…
by ButtMunch on Nov 13, 2009 12:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think it would mean so much to everyone
to see Al Davis lift the trophy one more time……………or at least see the playoffs.
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
by Ozraider on Nov 13, 2009 12:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Al Said himself..
The only way he leaves the Raiders are if he passes or he wins two more titles. Id love to see him lift that trophy once more. That would be a moment ment to shed tears. Two is unlikely seeing I see him having 2-3 years left.
by Remix. on Nov 13, 2009 3:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He brags his mom
lived to 106 or something.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Nov 13, 2009 8:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The way things are going I'll be a 106
before the Raiders win two more Super Bowls.
by sirbed on Nov 13, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
bubbly foam at the mouth
I see Al going at least another year and half. Al is already planning who his number 1 will be other than JM and Darell and Bey. Al collects number ones if you see the pattern now.
by JethroMayham on Nov 16, 2009 1:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Al won a wheelchair race?
Somebody dropped a line that Al beat JM in a downhill race because JM lost controll and flipped over. Not to wory because both wore helmets (Raider helmets).
by JethroMayham on Nov 16, 2009 1:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My guess about Raiders post A.D.
is that within a few years Mark Davis will sell or at least become a minority owner. I base this only on what I’ve read as he had very little to do with the team for years and he doesn’t have any major personal wealth not linked to the Raiders.
The Raiders have revenue problems and were one of two teams that lost money last year. The Raiders are one of the least valuable franchises in the NFL according to Forbes at somewhere around $760 million so it’s not going to be an easy situation for Mark Davis to step into.
Whatever happens post Al I hope the Raiders are run in a more professional way with a real GM and a coaching staff not filled with coaches too green or too stale.
We’ll see but I think Al is going to be around for awhile yet I just hope he comes to realize he needs the kind of help he had in his 40’s and 50’s (aka Ron Wolf) now that he’s in his 80’s.
by sirbed on Nov 13, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
to wish someone to lose thier life isnt fair.
Yes Al has made some odd decisions, and yes some of those decisions dont pay off on the field, but he is the personification of Raider Nation. He is the penultimate consummate Raider. He is not to be blamed entirely on all our problems, but he is responsible for his fair share. Does the fact that our team has hit a squall and floundered for a few years sentence the man to deathwishes? He has bled silver and black longer than any other. Maybe some of these bandwagoneers that are calling for his ousting and death should go find another team. The raiders and Their Nation protect our own, we do not bite the hand thats feeds, nor do we chant for a Coup De Grace…. He will be our head Raider till he dies, and we will miss his energy and intelligence and overall enthusiasm for all things RRRAAAIIIDDDUUUHHHHSSSS. He is the avatar of “JUST WIN BABY”, and always held everyone under him to one mandate, THE COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE. its not the old dogs fault the youngbucks flat dick it on the field. Thats laid at the feet of a very UNINSPIRING revolving head coaching scheme. BIG AL wants a coach that bleeds silver and black. He wants players that will sacrifice their bodies to JUST WIN BABY. WHATTYA SAY BOYS? CAN WE MAKE A DYING OLD PATRIARCH HAPPY AND JUST FUCKIN WIN, BABY? CAN WE GIVE A DYING OLD MAN ONE LAST WISH TO HOIST THE LOMBARDI AND THEN FADE INTO THE SUNSET, WHERE ALL GROUNDBREAKERS AND HEROES GO WHEN THEIR JOBS DONE? Wishing for an eighty year old man to die is cowardly, and selfish. you got alotta years yet to enjoy DA RAIDUHS… let an old man go gracefully. not with catcalls and boos. have some notion of humanity when you say his name. not anger. Feel blessed he has given us so many memories of the greatest team ever. not the cowgirls. not the queefs, not the superchokers. not even the squeelers. think of that as you pray the old man dies. then look into your mirror, and try to lie to urself. you know you cant, you small minded, shitty hearted no good bandwagoneers.
by VaderBDCRaider on Nov 13, 2009 2:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
let's be real tho
I’m not wishing any thing to happen to the old man but I think Raider Nation and Al Davis Soul already died out after Superbowl 37 against the bucs. Now the silver and black colors are nothing but a shadow of them former selves…. Most of the True Raider fans have either given up on the team or jump ships if you go to the coliseum now you’ll either find Al Davis loyalties ((Not true fans cause they don’t know wtf they’re talking about)) , or wish bone fans still hoping that Jamarcus russell will bring the raiders back to glory .. I know you guys love traditions and all ,but that old 80’s playbook isn’t going help you win games in the 2009!!! era isn’t it Al……..
by Suleku on Nov 13, 2009 2:36 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A true Raiders fan...
Wull never leaves the teams side. WIN,LOSE OR TIE,,RIADERS TILL I DIE!!!
by Remix. on Nov 13, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
80's playbook?
I wish it’s more like a playbook from 1967. I really don’t take anyone wishing for Al to die seriously but I also am not going to act like he’s “The Dear Leader” and you can’t be critical of him.
Let’s be honest here for the last 7 years the Raiders have been one of the worst teams in NFL history. They already set the dubious record of 6 consecutive seasons with 11 or more loses and despite Chris Johnson thinking they’re going to go 8-0 (maybe flip that) the rest of the way they are very likely to extend that record to a seventh season.
The Raiders bandwagon has lost all of it’s wheels and living in the past and all this tough talk about being a true Raider or whatever is kind of odd.
None of us on this site are Raiders we’re Raider fans and while calling for Davis to die is too much it’s also too much to not view this team with a critical eye.
by sirbed on Nov 13, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
when a team loses
It is only natural to make fun of Al cause he is part of the problem. So the commentors naturally think if he is gone, the problem will become vapor. Very simple. Very direct.
So adding some fun to the comments makes the team enjoyable. Get it?
Go Al Go! Go Raiders Go! Can’t Al just take the team elsewhere or sell it?
by JethroMayham on Nov 16, 2009 1:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't relate to this post ...
I go to games and hold neither hope for JR becoming even a mediocre player or excessive sentiment for Al Davis. The Raiders are my team because they inspired me for years – your references indicate a brief history with them. The blogs on this post are as gooey as it gets. But, not all fans fit your stereotype or that of the moist eyed members of the Nation.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 15, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
previous post directed to Suleku's
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 15, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Davis needs to retire and get the heck out of Oakland
Boy Please I been a Raider Fan since they came back to Oaktown baby lol @ sirbed. I’ve been watching this team since I was a rug rat in the Jon Gruden era ,and of course looking into the past is all I can ever do right now since the silver and black colors are now the joke of the league. The Raiders in their current state is nothing but trash lookin’ for a pay check off of Al Davis. It’s not about winning games anymore tho it’s all a drama fest going on with our team I mean come on I can’t see how we got a woman abuser as our Coach…. Next thing you know nhami asomugha will turn into the next Stephen Jackson ((GS Warriors player)) , and talk about leaving this garage dump.
by Suleku on Nov 13, 2009 5:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Tough time to become a fan
Since you’re so young Suleku you’ve never gotten the chance to see the Raiders be the best team in the league of course since it was 25 years ago you’re not alone in that.
As frustrated as I get watching this team right now I still have some hope for the future of course I did get dropped on my head as a child so it’s possible that’s the brain damage talking.
by sirbed on Nov 13, 2009 5:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Its a very hard time being a fan..
At times I wish it was easier. But I always have to remember that it is only a sport. Take it serious when you play it. Not rot for it
by Remix. on Nov 13, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I only allow myself to be mad for 5 minutes after a Raider loss*
otherwise you can go crazy over something that is at the end of the day just entertainment.
*Super Bowl losses hurt forever
by sirbed on Nov 13, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Our last SuperBowl...
That was my first SuperBowl I ever watched. I was just a little guy with dreams and aspirations. Excited for my new found love, Football, and the Oakland Raiders. Man, I was I greatly dissapointed. Im still suprised I don’t mainly root for the Vikings. My dad liked them alot more, And Usuallly you’ll agree with you dad when your that young. But, for some reason the Raiders drew me in,.
by Remix. on Nov 13, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep my Dad brainwashed me into becoming a Raider fan long ago
hopefully you’ll get to see the Raiders win a Super Bowl one of these days (decades?) as their win on January 22,1984 in Super Bowl XVIII is the last game I truly enjoyed and I was only 10 so it’d be nice to have that feeling again as an adult.
by sirbed on Nov 14, 2009 9:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
think positive
Don’t be mad just laugh when they lose. Be happy. When they win, just scratch your head and laugh.
by JethroMayham on Nov 16, 2009 2:00 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
some of us aren't wired to "just laught when they lose"
maybe that’s the price for getting so high when they play well. Either one is committed and on fire or detached and lukewarm. The former suffer but also experience some ecstasies, the latter … who knows.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 16, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
AL DAVIS
great article,i’ve been a Raider fan sense 1964 and i’ll die a Raider fan,AL made the AFL and brought a brand of football that made it exciting to watch.as far as Post al davis by Rat,the name fits you you sound like some one that comes out at night and feeds on garbage,you little b-tch
by wopp22 on Nov 13, 2009 8:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Is this Gino?
Brother, I thought you hated computers. But, your opinion must be heard – and when its about football, it’s rarely wrong. Long live Blanda, Banaszak, Casper, Hendricks, Willie Brown and the legacy that followed.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 18, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
life after al davis
mark davis will not get control of the team.
ive done a bit of reading myself on this very question, if anybody in the raider orgnization that embodies the mind and spirit of the oakland raiders, that person is amy trask. the word is that amy trask is al davis with a split tail. when we made it to the super bowl in 2002, mr. davis was talkin of stepping aside. unfortunately we did not win that game. therefore mr davis has been trying to get the right combination of players together; and as a result he has been rolling snake eyes.
if anything changes hands in oakland, it will not be mark davis who ends up with the team. i really hate to say it, but the death watch is on in oakland.
as much as i love the raiders and everything they stand for, no one has the right to take the team away fm mr davis until he is good and ready to let go, or he has departed this world.
by darkknight_13us on Nov 13, 2009 10:49 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bravo Al!
Bring aboard Sarah Palin, Rush, Lou Dobbs, Larry Ellison, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, and the Terminator.
by JethroMayham on Nov 16, 2009 2:10 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
AD is a great owner
Just a poor GM. AD can’t walk away from the Raiders at any price, hence, your wish to kill him off. I disagree that it’s a good wish. He’s has clearly proven over the last 3 years that he will spend to win. Not that many owners are willing to step up the way he has. He is a fantastic owner steeped in tradition, pride, and believe it or not, hunger to win. He has lost his touch as a GM and game strategist. He needs to delegate and allow a GM to formulate a strategy and game plan, allow the GM to get the right players and to manage the cap, and lastly, allow the coaches to coach. AD’s draft strategy is to find diamonds in the rough with players with exceptional talent – HDB and wishful JR. MCD was in theory a sure thing. The problem with that strategy, as we have seen, is the amount of pressure on both the players and the coaching staff to develop the rookies. It has backfired largely with the wrong mental attitude and coaching structure. Moreover, we have brought in disasters – Hall and J Walker. That is pure scouting and understanding your team’s dynamic. AD needs to evaluate his record as a GM over the last 5 years, be honest, and step aside by delegating all GM duties. AD is the greatest owner ever; that’s his strength, stay there for the team.
by raiders4liffe on Nov 14, 2009 6:14 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Raiders, Raiders, Raiders, Raiders...
The foundational Western philosophical quote; "I think, therefore I am..." applies to everyone except Booby "the joke" Crozby
by MMunoz33 on Nov 14, 2009 6:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE
FOR YEARS I HAVE BEEN A RAIDER FAN ALL THE WAY BACK TO WHEN THERE TRAINING CAMP WAS IN SANTA ROSA.
COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE WILL BEGIN WHEN DAVIS HIRES A COACH HE WILL LET RUN THE TEAM.
HE HAS DONE THIS ONLY 3 TIMES.
THE ONLY COACHES THAT HAVE GOT THE RAIDERS TO THE SUPER BOWL.
I SAY FIRE CABLE AND GO AFTER BILL COWHER. HE WOULD BE PERFECT.
by capt redeye on Nov 14, 2009 1:01 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE
JOHN MADDEN TOM FLORES BILL CALLAHAN
by capt redeye on Nov 14, 2009 1:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Callhan
is an offensive genius, but not a very good head coach.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Nov 14, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Larry Ellison will buy the team
He has always wanted a sports team, and will pay WHATEVER it costs.
by Bud Light on Nov 14, 2009 3:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Good point
Rush + Larry = Super Bowl
by JethroMayham on Nov 16, 2009 2:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There is no other owner in football that I would rather go to war with than Al.
by John Will on Nov 14, 2009 6:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
big al
is the fuckin man, dont be talkin down. a true raider fan wouldnt say shit about our faerless leader.
by nick dog on Nov 14, 2009 8:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Again
it’s not bad if you criticize the team for what’s obvious wrong. Some people would follow Davis into the path of a run away freight train. Others can see that the light is a train.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Nov 14, 2009 8:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Al is pasty looking.
Is it age or a health issue? Go Al Go!
by JethroMayham on Nov 16, 2009 2:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Save the Nation
All I know is I’m getting one of these and wearing it to the game tomorrow!
http://evoltees.com/savethenation.html
by Stabler2Branch on Nov 14, 2009 10:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Bumper Sticker
That’s free with the purchase of three or more items, but there’s only two items on the page!
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 19, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad that sad day wasn't yesterday
You know what? All good things must come to an end. The good things Al did with the Raiders ended long ago. If someone can’t realize they’re the reason why the bad keeps happenning, it’s time for somebody else to show them. No GM in the league would’ve been ignorant enough to take on longterm projects with their 1st & 2nd round draft picks. The Raiders have become a joke. Al’s stubborness is the reason. He’s more concerned about fighting court battles with ex-coaches so he won’t have to pay them what he contracted with them for, than he is turning the Raiders into a winner again. He needs to step down and let somebody who understands 21st century football run the organization. Al’s a dinosaur trapped in the past.
by Older_than_Moses_Shaq on Nov 15, 2009 10:12 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Put Gruden in as head of football operations
wow the comment that nobody could keep the Raider tradition alive. What I know a number of fans that are very well capable of keeping the Raider tradition alive my mood on sundays hing on the Raiders gameplay and all the negetive comments coming from all other fans around the league really fuel the fire Im a Raider till the end. On A MORE REALISTIC OPTION GRUDEN WOULD COME BACK .
by lee22raider on Nov 15, 2009 11:04 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
He had his chance, buddy.
No, once gone it is policy not to let them back. Raider Nation!
by JethroMayham on Nov 16, 2009 2:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What about Shell?
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Nov 16, 2009 4:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Al Davis
Look we all know what Al Davis represents to the Raiders and the legacy that he has created for this franchise and we all do greatly appreciate and love him for that, HOWEVER, it is just as important to make a good lasting impression as it is important to make a good first impression, and right now all Al Davis has worked so hard and so long to build up he is by his own doing destroying that great reputation that is the Silver & Black. Because this younger generation does not know or remember when we were once great and dominate. So it would have been better for Al to leave when we were at the top then to leave us down in the bottom! And we now have a new legacy of something not so great anymore!!
by Maria McGee on Nov 15, 2009 4:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
it was a sad day when Al went away
Damn skippy it will be a great loss when the ineveitable happens. This is something that should be being addressed while Al is in a cognative state. I doubt the renegade image would be dismissed( it’s one of the reasons I’m a member,along with the talent), it’s an image and a revenue stream. If you will allways be a Raider, A.D., leave the team with some stability while perserveing your legacy. The respected franchises have excellent leadership “at the top”, we were once Great. Leave on a high-note, it’s the Raider Way.
by bigbabyjp on Nov 17, 2009 10:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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