Oakland Raiders Postgame Recap: Chiefs 16, Raiders 10
by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 15, 2009 5:10 PM PST
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For the 99th time, the two bitter rivals squared off. [via image3.examiner.com]
Completing the season series were the Raiders and the Chiefs from Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum. Oakland had won the earlier meeting at Arrowhead Stadium, but this time around, it was Kansas City emerging as the victor. It was the seventh straight time the Chiefs had beaten the Raiders in Oakland and the 52nd overall time that it had happened in now what has been the 99th meeting. Blacked out locally, I was forced to watch this game on a stream. Let's see how this one transpired.
Raiders running back Michael Bush finished with 119 yards on just 14 carries. [via a.espncdn.com]
The Raiders started with the ball first and didn't wait around. Michael Bush's 60-yard run set up a Justin Fargas touchdown, putting the Raiders up 7-0 just four plays into the game. The Chiefs, on the very next drive, turned the ball over. It was their first of three turnovers as Matt Cassel was picked off by Chris Johnson. Some punts later, the Chiefs were on the board thanks to a 50-yard field from Ryan Succop. The slow-moving first quarter next saw Sebastian Janikowski connect from 50 yards out as well, and the Raiders maintained a 10-3 lead. That was all the scoring the Raiders would get.
Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles had a career-high 103 yards. [via a.espncdn.com]
The Chiefs were faced with a fourth down at the Oakland 44 and decided to go for it. Instead of a first down, they earned something better. For the first time this season, the Chiefs scored a rushing touchdown. A 44-yard score by Charles tied the game up. The Raiders followed up by punting four more times in the quarter with all four "drives" resulting in four plays run or less. Kansas City tacked on a field goal before halftime down the line in the quarter, and the Raiders trailed 13-10 at the break. The Chiefs' top playmaker, Dwayne Bowe, had 91 yards receiving on the day and had 48 of those in the second quarter. He even drew a pass interference penalty in this quarter on Chris Johnson. Not-so-fun fact: Oakland had lost 18 straight games in which they trailed going into the half.
Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell was finally benched after another porous effort. [via a.espncdn.com]
There wasn't much action in the third quarter, but there were certainly some headlines. JaMarcus Russell was finally benched after going 9-for-24 with 67 yards. A fair share of drops and bad passes contributed to the usually-low completion percentage. Both teams missed field goals and failed to score points in the third quarter. Oakland could not capitalize on a pair of Kansas City turnovers in the quarter. Oakland managed just three points off of three turnovers in the game overall.
The man Chiefs fans love to hate, safety Mike Brown, finally gave them a reason to smile. [via a.espncdn.com]
The Chiefs added a field goal early on in the fourth quarter to give them a 16-10 cushion. Despite the change at quarterback, offensive ineptitude continued for the men in silver and black. They were still, however, in a position to win the game late. Bruce Gradkowski tried to engineer a game-winning drive. After hitting Chaz Schilens and Johnnie Lee Higgins, the Raiders were in pretty decent position to put something together; however, mysterious play-calling and clock management led to the downfall late. Still, a 22-yard pass to Darrius Heyward-Bey -- surprisingly held up by replay -- had the Raiders in business. On the next play, though, a pass intended for Heyward-Bey was picked off by Mike Brown to seal the game.
Will JaMarcus Russell be under center again despite being benched today? [via a.espncdn.com]
A couple of thoughts are in my head after that game. First, it's nice having Chaz Schilens back. He led the team in receiving with 41 yards off of four receptions. Still, the drops are a problem for not only wide receivers but for everyone. Some screens should have been caught by Darren McFadden and Justin Fargas, but they were dropped instead. Secondly, the ground game was really good once again. Bush and Fargas combined for 160 yards on 24 carries. Despite McFadden returning, he had only 11 yards on just four carries. It leads me to question how valuable he is to this offense. Bush clearly looks superior on the ground and should get the bulk of the carries moving forward. Lastly, with an inept passing attack, we still have a very good tight end in Zach Miller. He was virtually non-existent in today's game with just one single catch for nine yards. We saw a little bit too much of Tony Stewart and Brandon Myers and not enough of our top weapon in the aerial aspect of the game.
Next week, these Kansas City Chiefs (2-7) will be hosting the Pittsburgh Steelers (6-3). The Oakland Raiders, now at an abysmal 2-7, will be playing at home again and taking on the shocking 7-2 Cincinnati Bengals at 1:15 p.m. Pacific. It's sure to be another blackout.
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Nice recap RR
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
by Ozraider on Nov 15, 2009 5:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
It would’ve been better with a win, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 15, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Game Raidas!
I thought I saw a deja vu for a second…Yall marched down the field like you were the Patriots…
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Nov 15, 2009 5:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Laughable
Two passes and a draw up the middle for no gain before the final positive play on the drive is hardly like New England.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 15, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
With the upcoming schedule, I see Oakland winning one more game. The week 16 Browns. Im wierdly glad. Maybe we can get another Top 5 Pick. And do something special with it. Colt McCoy!!!
by Remix. on Nov 15, 2009 5:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Winnable Games
We have Washington at home in a little bit and that’s a winnable game. Yeah, Cleveland is a winnable game even if it is on the road. Cincinnati could be primed for getting upset, though. They’re coming off of their biggest win of the year, so there’s a letdown factor. They’re coming all the way out to California and playing on the road for the second straight week. They’re 1-2 this year as favorites as opposed to being 6-0 as underdogs.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 15, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're dreaming RRS
but I’m happy for you that you still have hope. Good recap on the Fanpost I rec’d it and I encourage others to do the same.
by sirbed on Nov 15, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
I appreciate it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 15, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't worry
When I get to play for the Oakland Raiders I won’t let this happen, unfortunately it won’t be until 6 years so let’s just hold on lol ( ;
Wake me up if we win
by nishal26 on Nov 15, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You Bring IT Son!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by saint on Nov 16, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradford...
The foundational Western philosophical quote; "I think, therefore I am..." applies to everyone except Booby "the joke" Crozby
by MMunoz33 on Nov 16, 2009 8:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
With nothing to lose ...
Cable should consider starting Gradkowski next week, employ heavy blitzing, and predominate ground game w/ Bush and Fargas competing for 100+ games. Murphy’s willingness and Bey’s getting open don’t matter if they drop it. The defense needs to loosen up and go hard, cf. Phili, the coaches need to think outside the conventional box.
NB. As long as Russell is QB, Cable’s game strategy is out of sink with reality – the passing game doomed.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 15, 2009 5:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
This team is going to drive me to drink
I’d have to look it up but have there been three worse 1st round picks in a row than JaMarcus Russell,Darren McFadden and Darrius Heyward-Bey?
Darrius Heyward-Bey plays like he’s never been on a football field before. Darren McFadden can’t stay healthy or make more than one cut and Russell well at this point is there anything left to say other than the man is a complete loser.
As we close in on 26 years since the last Super Bowl win I think the only left to say is that Rich Gannon was right this team needs to be blown up because they’re a complete mess.
by sirbed on Nov 15, 2009 5:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Being a Raider Fan is definately not for the weak
and drinking is one of the coping mechanisms that has helped the Sons of Blanda too. Something else that seems to work is focusing on the next game and blotting out the last one. Maybe this is the attitude to have for everything.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 15, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah you have to really love the game
to watch this rubbish every week for 6 years.
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
by Ozraider on Nov 15, 2009 6:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think the defensive play is rubbish. Do you?
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 15, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no defense has been good
tha fact they are on the field so much is rubbish
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
by Ozraider on Nov 15, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Raiders are quickly becoming the next Detroit Lions
Hey, I bet Millen is available to lead this team.
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
by doctorK on Nov 15, 2009 8:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Millen
He’s a pretty solid commentator. He does college football and even did the Thursday night game between the Bears and 49ers.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 15, 2009 8:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
+1,000,000,000,000
The foundational Western philosophical quote; "I think, therefore I am..." applies to everyone except Booby "the joke" Crozby
by MMunoz33 on Nov 16, 2009 8:06 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so so sorry, Raiders Nation.
JaMarcus is just absolutely awful. For whatever reason, they showed the game in SW Florida today—it was the first time I’ve seen the Raiders all year—Russell is soooo bad.
And it’s a shame, too, because the defense looks like they care. I think you got at least an 8-8 team with anyone else as your QB. Should’ve signed Vick.
Sock puppets have never been able to successfully attack castles. -Nevermoor
by Leopold Bloom on Nov 15, 2009 7:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Almost anyone else.
Michael Vick isn’t much of a quarterback. A great athelete, yes, but a quarterback, no. Wait, let me think about this: great athelete, not much of a player. You’re right, Vick is the perfect Raider!
by guapobob on Nov 15, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Vick
At least he wins games, you know. I think he could’ve made it work over here.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 15, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Vick winning in Oakland
With our run based O..He could easily fit in..He’s smart. And knows when to throw and when not to. I feel so much for remorse for Zach Miller. If he were to play for any team with even a feeble QB…He would easily be a Pro Bowl nod
by Remix. on Nov 15, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you get to see them next week, at least you'll get to see a good team win
Even if their best player has a stupid bogus name.
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
by doctorK on Nov 15, 2009 8:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute Bloom
you watched the Raiders game? So it was your fault we lost!
Congrats on your Bengals that was the early game we watched at my place and that team looks damn good.
by sirbed on Nov 15, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta make a correction (added in bold italic)
On the next play, though, a pass hit Heyward-Bey in the worst possible place – his hands. He managed to box it up into the air, allowing Mike Brown to seal the game.
Otherwise, good write up. I figure the Bungholes will beat the RaiDURRS by at least three touchdowns next Sunday.
Hey Al, just go away, baby.
by doctorK on Nov 15, 2009 8:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We need ( In My Opinion) Stability
1.) Tom Cable to be here for the next few years.
2) Hire a GM
3.) Keep Jamarcus Russell
You guys all saw how DHB dropped that pass it was horrible I could have caught it a million times but I saw him at the bench looking at the floor shacking his head which tells me one thing… He Cares that’s what it means if it dosen’t hurt than you don’t care. Next week we have the Bengals here dam looks like a blow out to me I doubt it not saying we are gonna win but at least one positive I have to say about the Raiders is that I didn’t turn the game off in the 3rd Q it was down to the last play/drive thing. We need to learn to finish games. We ain’t gonna be in the playoffs in 2010 so what Experience is the best Coach you can have.
Things are hard I leave everyone with this:
“The fastest was out of a storm is to head to the eye of the storm”
Wake me up if we win
by nishal26 on Nov 15, 2009 9:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
Tom Cable needs to be the first one out the door. I also think we should spend our first pick on a quarterback depending upon who is available.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 15, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So that's gonna be
JR’s 5th new play caller in 3 years but wait he wouldn’t be there right. If we let everyone go who is doing bad than we will bring in a new squad then what we go 4-12 hire a new HC and get a new QB then we go 5-11 New HC and new QB. Anybody see a pattern here?
Wake me up if we win
by nishal26 on Nov 15, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
It wouldn’t be another play-caller for Russell. It would be an actual offensive coordinator or someone with credibility calling the plays for a new quarterback. Besides, with Al Davis still around, I don’t even think it matters.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 15, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I sorta agree with you.
I agree we need a new GM and I actually agree on keeping Cable. The raiders need stability in coaching, cable may not be the best but he loves this team and cares about this organization. It’s better than having a coach who might be a bit better but doesn’t love the team. I say keep Tom Cable. It takes a bit for a coach to set up a scent team.
I don’t agree with keeping Jamarcus. He doesn’t care about this team, just the money they pay him. He’s not a leader, he can’t pass, and he has no passion for the game or team. BUT I do NOT wanna see another QB drafted. HELL NO.! and if we try and draft Tim Tebow Ima call Al Davis myself. We need a proven player or a player with real potential in succes, not just talent.
For our receivers man that’s just way too many drops. You got a QB who can’t make simple throws when he actually makes a good pass they drop it.?! I like both DHB and Murphy. Thought I was upset about that last drop by DHB which made us loose the game I’m happy it happened. He was really upset and the whole team knew it. He cares and I think he will work really hard in making that his last drop this season. I don’t think they’re both ready to start and should start Schilenz for sure and play Walker.! He’s healed now alright.! He’s been to the pro bowl, yes that was a while ago but he’s got experience and he has proven himself before. We don’t need speed, we need experience and someone who can catch.
by ButtMunch on Nov 16, 2009 12:24 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was the Chiefs.
Of course we were still in it by the 3rd Quarter. The Bengals are a whole different story. They love to run the ball and we hate to have it ran at us. Benson’s injury is only minor. So he’ll be playing. If we start Bruce Gradkowski and use Bush, Fargas and McFadden right. Like. Bush mostly, McFadden on swings and Short passes. And Fargas on 3rd down and every other 1st. If our D can continue to improve, I can forsee an upset
by Remix. on Nov 15, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The most idiotic blog
A voice crying out for stability. By all means, let’s be complacent being with the dregs of the league and keep the means to continue the trend. This advice to keep JR and Cable must be a joke, and your admonition to the team “we must finish the game” while you can’t bear watching the games during the second half …. abysmally weak.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 16, 2009 9:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Should have benched the receivers instead.
If I’m Tom Cable, at this point I don’t really have anything left to lose, so I would spend all week making backs and receivers do push-ups for dropped passes and QBs do push-ups for bad passes.
Yes, Russell had some misfires, but that number is dwarfed by the number of catchable balls that hit the turf today. Backs dropping screens and checkdowns like it was their job, and everyone else seemingly allergic to the ball today.
Benching Russell cannot cure these ills, as evidenced by Gradkowski’s to INTs off tipped balls.
Prevent John Marshall from running the prevent defense!
by LiveAdam on Nov 15, 2009 9:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
2-14 this year..
Maybe 4-12 next year… Bottom line is there is just no talent on this team. And not much is going to change next year…. same WR core( all a joke!) same RB’s…basically only Bush is worth anything. Seymore is gonna bolt. Run D is gonna be just as bad. Same QB (Biggest bust in NFL history! ) ..it will never change until Alzheimer Al is dead… this whole organization is so irrelevant it’s ridiculous! Why would anyone get excited about us having a top pick? All they do is pick Busts!!
by G M on Nov 15, 2009 10:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Talent
There’s talent on this team. We have talented players by the names of Michael Bush, Chaz Schilens, Zach Miller, Mario Henderson, Robert Gallery, Richard Seymour, Tommy Kelly, Kirk Morrison, Thomas Howard, Nnamdi Asomugha, Tyvon Branch, Sebastian Janikowski, Shane Lechler and possibly a few others.
..it will never change until Alzheimer Al is dead…
Unfortunately, that might be the sad truth. Until Al Davis is somehow gone, we really don’t have a reason to think it will turn around. I’m not rooting for this death, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 15, 2009 10:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn right
We’ve got defensive and special teams talent; even the “offense” has some people who are worthy – what we lack is coaching leadership and a passing game. So, spare me this talk of “TIME” for those liability creatures to develop or achieve anything good.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 16, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Win Some Lose Some
Al Davis does make some dumb mistakes like Aaron Brooks, Geoff George, and Larry Brown. But he also brought in Seymour, Gannon, Garner, and Rod Woodson.
He will pull the trigger and try to make the team better which is more than a lot of teams (A’s) do.
What I don’t like to see is when real Raider fans start bashing on Al Davis just because the Haters do.
I’m glad he is firing people and not paying them, because we’ll need the money for the next draft pick. It’s going to be high.
by Sbay on Nov 16, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Laughable
- Richard Seymour was a bad trade. He’ll walk and we’ll be out our first pick in 2011.
- Rich Gannon, Charlie Garner and Rod Woodson were many years ago. That argument doesn’t hold any water. Look at what he’s done recently with first-round busts like Russell, Heyward-Bey and even Fabian Washington. Michael Huff will never live up to his draft status as well.
- Don’t even start with the A’s. They’ve been the most successful major Bay Area sports team in this decade. They’ve made the playoffs more teams in the years 2000-2009 than the Giants, 49ers, Warriors and Raiders. I know I’m missing the Sharks, but that’s why I said major sports team.
- Al Davis haters are smart. When you have the worst record in the last six-plus years overall in the NFL, you’ve earned the right to be considered the worst general manager of the decade in not only the NFL but perhaps in all of sports.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 16, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Huff got benched
and that lit a fire under him and then he came on the field this year and had some nice plays and picks. He took it upon himself to work w/ Aso to get better.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Nov 16, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Huff
I actually like him moving forward and everything, but he’s never going to live up to that number six overall status.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 16, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
come on man
most receivers take time to become good in this league
give heyward bey i chance, he cares about this team
i dont think hes a rusell
by raiderfan4life on Nov 16, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Heyward-Bey
He can’t even catch the simplest of balls.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 16, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think if he works on the drops
he could be okay. It’s to early to call him a bust. It’s only his rookie year and a bad QB.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Nov 17, 2009 4:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
How are Crabtree, Maclin and Harvin doing when it comes to drops?
I think that’s the point. I’m glad he cares but it is slightly important for him to catch the ball. His first year should be adjusting to the speed of the game, the tenacity of the defenders etc.
by Rusty23 on Nov 17, 2009 7:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
those guys also arent being asked to be the number 1 guy on their team
or have received the scrutiny and pressure that DHB did from the second he was drafted.
I dont care what anyone says and I know they are pro athletes but the are also young guys trying to find their way in the league, drops are a confidence thing generally but he has been playing hard and blocking very well.
Harvin also has Farve (look at Sidney Rice since Farve), Maclin has McNabb even Crabtree has Alex Smith who has come out of nowhere.
DHB will be fine. Why do we alsways turn on our rookies so quickly maybe the fact their own fans turn on them after half a season is part of the problem. Historically 90% of rookie receivers and QB’s have taken a number of seasons to become quality players yet we always compare to the minority or examples where players are ready made.
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
by Ozraider on Nov 17, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why do we alsways turn on our rookies so quickly maybe the fact their own fans turn on them after half a season is part of the problem
.
Let me tell you if they start caring what the fans think and get all bent out of shape, they should not be in the NFL.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Nov 17, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He had bad hands coming out of college.
We knew that and still picked him. That is the problem! The others could already catch the ball. We pick projects. The NFL doesn’t allow enough time for projects anymore.
by Rusty23 on Nov 18, 2009 7:08 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
full of hate not reason
1. Richard Seymour can’t walk away from a franchise tag. Raiders can give up a first round for him.
2. The point is not first round busts, it’s the fact that AL Davis signs free agents to help the team win. Anyway, Huff, Washington are both starters, Gallery is a good left guard. The worst picks are Mcfadden and Russell, but instead we have gems like Bush, Murphy, Myers that were picked in later rounds. Chaz Schilens was a 7th rounder, Trevor Scott a 6th rounder.
3. You say that the 2002 Super Bowl was too long ago, then you bring up the A’s who were last in the playoffs in 2001! That doesn’t make any sense.
4. Hater vision is not smart. It’s the opposite, especially when it can’t be backed up by reason.
by Sbay on Nov 18, 2009 12:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
11 punts? You should never have more punts than completed passes. Welcome to the Raiders, I guess.
I think Tom Cable and Jamarcus should go. You don’t have a losing record at a poor division-1 college and find success in the pros. It just doesn’t work that way.
They should draft another QB, but in the 3rd round. They need help on the line for the first picks. Then they should hire a veteran to come in and battle with that newly drafted pick for the starting position. Like say, the Raiders draft Lefevour in the 3rd or 4th round and they sign a Michael Vick, or Sage Rosenfels and then let them battle it out.
We should have started Jeff Garcia this season.
The more you try to erase me, the more that I appear.
by clarkpojo on Nov 16, 2009 5:07 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
yes...
The foundational Western philosophical quote; "I think, therefore I am..." applies to everyone except Booby "the joke" Crozby
by MMunoz33 on Nov 16, 2009 8:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Garcia is finished as well
missed a lot of pre season and was out played easily imo by Gradkowski and Frye in preseason.
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
by Ozraider on Nov 17, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for my misunderstanding...
I was refering to;
"11 punts? You should never have more punts than completed passes. Welcome to the Raiders, I guess.
I think Tom Cable and Jamarcus should go. You don’t have a losing record at a poor division-1 college and find success in the pros. It just doesn’t work that way.
They should draft another QB, but in the 3rd round. They need help on the line for the first picks. Then they should hire a veteran to come in and battle with that newly drafted pick for the starting position. Like say, the Raiders draft Lefevour in the 3rd or 4th round and they sign a Michael Vick, or Sage Rosenfels and then let them battle it out."
The foundational Western philosophical quote; "I think, therefore I am..." applies to everyone except Booby "the joke" Crozby
by MMunoz33 on Nov 17, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why Cable
I think Cable is doing decent. Russell and McFadden should be cut.
NO VICK, PLEASE NOOOOOO
tyler thigpen or andrew luck or whatever from stanford
by Sbay on Nov 18, 2009 12:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well while I don't really want Vick
he is familiar w/ Cable since Cable was the O-line coach in Atlanta.
Is Cable doing decent? I waffle on my opinion here because I don’t know exactly how much control he has over the team and plays. Articles are saying Davis has no say in who starts as QB this Sunday…and I find that hard to believe giving how much we know of Al. So..hmm… Cable is a Raider to heart. I would like to see him be HC and HC only and be the HC/Offense Coordinator/O-line coach. I’m not sure he can multitask real well.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Nov 18, 2009 4:39 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Half right
What standards, what times! O tempores, O mores!
Do you think JaBlob determines whether or not he starts? No, Cable does … and he’s started him every week. Cable insists on throwing the ball even when the run is working – why? Then, when the D-line holds, Cable insists on running plays that failed earlier in the game. Then, there are the obvious draws that fool no one and lose yards. I haven’t seen anything remarkable in play calling from Cable – he lacks any imagination (fine if you have a great line – which isn’t the case). We should meet him with shoes (as the Mesopotamians say).
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 18, 2009 12:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Basically yes to everything buit the Garcia reference...
The foundational Western philosophical quote; "I think, therefore I am..." applies to everyone except Booby "the joke" Crozby
by MMunoz33 on Nov 17, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
russell
23 passes, 5 bad throws, 8 drops that were right in the hands, and russell is the problem.
by tc2lb on Nov 16, 2009 6:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Were they all "right in their hands" as you say?
Nope. I agree that these guys have to catch the ball but Jamarcus is a terrible QB and rarely puts the ball where he is supposed to. How is he as a leader? Does he show at any time that he IS THE LEADER on the field? Show me one instance of this, would you please? How hard is he working off the field? Loved his answers about the bye-week. He should have been thorwing and watching film every damn day. He has his money, why would he work for it now?
by Rusty23 on Nov 16, 2009 7:05 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
RUSSELL
just plain sucks…..doesn’t care….. did anyone see him laughing and joking on the bench after he got pulled ……was not paying attention to the game while on the sideline…..and lets all be honest with ourselves he will never be anything more than a stupid backwoods country bunkin who has gotten by on raw talent to get to this point and now that the talent in the nfl is all evened up his dumbass can’t compete….cut his sorry ass and start over with someone who might give a damn….
by TRURAIDA on Nov 16, 2009 7:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Who was the Oakland Raider player of the game?
Other; DHB
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by MMunoz33 on Nov 16, 2009 8:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Heyward-Bey
He really shined with his one whole catch.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 16, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His ONE catch was even out of bounds!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by saint on Nov 16, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember Greg Papa say
" And it’s DHB with the catch the biggest of his career" Of course which is followed by his worst play in his career.
Wake me up if we win
by nishal26 on Nov 16, 2009 3:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Russell Sucks.
That is all.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
by Syphon on Nov 16, 2009 1:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Definitely DHB
Player Targets Rec. Rec. Pct. Yards
1. Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oakland 26 5 19.2 74
2. Michael Clayton, Tampa Bay 37 12 32.4 192
3. Louis Murphy, Oakland 47 16 34.0 232
4. Chris Chambers, SD/KC 35 12 34.2 192
5. Mohamed Massaquoi, Cleveland 49 19 38.8 328
6. Bryant Johnson, Detroit 50 20 40.0 276
7. Roy Williams, Dallas 44 19 43.18 324
8. Antonio Bryant, Tampa Bay 37 16 43.24 229
9. Ted Ginn Jr., Miami 43 19 44.2 218
10. Justin Gage, Tennessee 49 22 44.9 302
by Mullester on Nov 16, 2009 5:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nnamdi Asomugha
I forgot to include this in the recap, but there was a graphic up during the game concerning Asomugha. He has been thrown against 11 times this year going into yesterday’s game, which was the fewest in the league. The next closest cornerback was Antoine Winfield who has been thrown against 27 times. Winfield has even missed time with an injury. It’s just amazing how few times Asomugha is targeted. He’s reached the realm of the great Deion Sanders.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 16, 2009 9:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
KC really went at him though and had some success
Nnamdi still the best cover QB in the league to be thrown at 11 times in 8 games is unheard of and I know we get on Chris Johnson I would like to see how many times he has been targeted because I think for the amount he has been pretty good as well esp since he has also been carrying an injury.
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
by Ozraider on Nov 17, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Asomugha
Yeah, the Chiefs targeted him a few times. Bowe actually caught one on him and they even drew a penalty on him as well. I think it was his worst game of the season.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 18, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I CAN THROW FOR 67 YARDS TOO!
WHEN YOU HAVE A RUNNING GAME GOING FOR YOU ,STICK WITH IT. TRYING TO THROW IT AND NOT CONNECTING WELL YOU ARE DUM! THE QB/HEAD COACH/O COORDINTAOR SHOULD BE FINED OR FIRED. THAT WAS A GAME WE SHOULD HAVE WON. SHANE PUNTED THE BALL 11 TIMES FOR 531 YARDS, THATS MORE THAN RUSSELL HAS THROWN IN ANY RAIDER. WHERES GEORGE BLANDA
by sports with steve on Nov 16, 2009 10:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fined? By who? For what?
And could you freaking please stop using all caps.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
by mikesd1981 on Nov 17, 2009 4:34 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd like to see you try throw for 67 yards against an NFL defense
a defensive tackle followed by an End and a Linebacker could possibly knock some sense into you.
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
by Ozraider on Nov 17, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Let DHB and McFadden return Punts, and Kickoffs together!!!
The foundational Western philosophical quote; "I think, therefore I am..." applies to everyone except Booby "the joke" Crozby
by MMunoz33 on Nov 17, 2009 6:16 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Forget Russell at qb, how about McFadden and Fargas and Bush running the
WILDCAT or WISHBONE???
:0)
The foundational Western philosophical quote; "I think, therefore I am..." applies to everyone except Booby "the joke" Crozby
by MMunoz33 on Nov 17, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
DHB Drops hella Balls
Here’s my take, video, and inspirational attire on that horrendous game. It was all J-Russ’s fault this time around.
http://hubpages.com/hub/Black-Hole-Adventures-Darrius-Heyward-Bay-aka-DHB-Drops-Hella-Balls
by SteveAngeles on Nov 19, 2009 12:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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