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Oakland Raiders Postgame Recap: Bengals 17, Raiders 20

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To much of the NFL's surprise, the Cincinnati Bengals owned the AFC's number two record at 7-2 coming into today's battle with our 2-7 Oakland Raiders. To even more people's surprise, the Raiders were the ones that walked off the field a victor on Sunday afternoon. Trailing 14-0 early, the Raiders scored 10 points in the final 33 seconds to come away with a shocking 20-17 upset of Cincinnati. Losing in Oakland is nothing new to Cincinnati, as the Bengals fell to 0-10 all-time in Oakland according to commentators Ian Eagle and Solomon Wilcots.

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Look at the intensity shown by Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer.
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First Quarter: The Bengals started the game with the ball and tried to even help the Raiders out on their first drive. A couple of penalties even infuriated quarterback Carson Palmer a little bit, and the running game struggled. Unfortunately for the Raiders, the Bengals marched down the field very successfully with their passing game. In a 14-play, 78-yard touchdown drive, Palmer completed five big passes and ran it into the end zone himself. Chad Ochocinco, finishing the game with just four grabs for 67 yards, looked really good early. On the Raiders' first possession, they actually picked up a first down; however, it'd be their only one of the quarter and Shane Lechler booted it away. The Bengals kept the ball moving as we headed to the second quarter. There was a bit of injury trouble, however. Richard Seymour went to the locker room with a lower back injury and did not return to action.

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"Watch and learn Darrius," says Chaz. [via a.espncdn.com]

Second Quarter: Momentum shifted to the Raiders' side in the second quarter as a fumble had the Raiders in business. It was a bit of wacky play, as Kirk Morrison picked up the fumble at first. Then, he fumbled himself. Thankfully, Greg Ellis was there and gave us the ball. Of course, two plays later, the Raiders committed a turnover of their own. A bad exchange gave the Bengals the ball right back. They would proceed to march down the field in nine plays -- all rushes -- to take a 14-0 lead. After a three-and-out, the Bengals had the ball again. This time, they couldn't pick up a first down. We saw a Larry Johnson appearance as he ran for five yards on a few carries. The Raiders received the ball at their own 29 after the punt and had their most successful drive of the day so far. Bruce Gradkowski capped off a 71-yard drive in less than three minutes with a 10-yard touchdown pass to tight end Zach Miller, our most reliable target. Our defense gave us the ball back and Gradkowski put Pro Bowl candidate Sebastian Janikowski in position for a 57-yard field goal. He just missed it, though, and we went into the locker room with Oakland trailing Cincinnati, 14-7.

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Bruce Gradkowski obviously proved to be a better choice than JaMarcus Russell. [via a.espncdn.com]

Third Quarter: Oakland started out with the ball and on their first third down of the drive, Darrius Heyward-Bey actually caught a pass. I was shocked! At that point, he had been thrown to 31 times on the season. It was his just his seventh grab. The Raiders moved the ball predominantly on the ground with Bush and McFadden before the drive stalled. Janikowski booted through a 52-yard field goal to cut the Bengals lead to 14-10. On their next possession, running back Bernard Scott, who had a career-high 119 yards, ripped off a 61-yard run on the second play of the drive. The Bengals, though, missed a field goal which many would consider a chip shot. The score held, 14-10, with just over five minutes to go in the quarter. The good fortune wouldn't last long. Michael Bush fumbled, defensive end Robert Geathers scooped it up and Chaz Schilens saved a touchdown with a tackle. The Bengals took over at Oakland's 18 thanks to the Raiders' second turnover of the day. The defense, more specifically Stanford Routt, forced the Bengals to settle for just three points for the second consecutive drive. Routt had a big sack on the last possession and a big defended passes on this drive. This time, Shayne Graham makes the chip shot kick from 25 yards out and the Bengals took a 17-10 lead. After a three-and-out punt, the Bengals had the ball at their own 20 following a touchback. On a big third down play to end the quarter, Laveranues Coles made a 40-yard catch.

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That face had a smile on it after the conclusion of this one. [via a.espncdn.com]

Fourth Quarter: The Bengals kept moving the ball and thought they'd be in great position to get some points; however, the Raiders picked a great time to even up the turnover margin. Rookie defensive lineman Desmond Bryant picked up the Jeremi Johnson fumble caused by Sam Williams and the Raiders had it at their own 15 needing a touchdown drive to tie things up. The Raiders had something going, but when they needed a yard, they couldn't get it. With plenty of time left to get a stop, Tom Cable elected to punt it back to the Bengals. Cincinnati was unable to get anything going on their next possession. A pass to Ochocinco was incomplete, a Scott run went backwards and Greg Ellis got in there to sack Palmer. A punt gave Gradkowski and the Raiders a chance to tie the game up once again, with the drive starting at the Bengals' 43 yard line. Disaster struck quickly, however, as Gradkowski was hit as he threw by Jonathan Fanene and that hit caused the wobbly throw to be intercepted by Johnathan Joseph at the Cincinnati 21 yard line. Eventually, the Raiders forced a punt with just over two minutes to play in regulation. It sailed into the end zone. Trailing 17-10 at the 20 yard line with a pair of timeouts and exactly 2:12 to play, Oakland had one last chance. Gradkowski hit the sure-handed Miller for nice big plays putting the team into Cincinnati territory. Four plays later, the Raiders faced a fourth down needing 10 yards with just under a minute left with one timeout. Gradkowski didn't miss Schilens for the third time in a row, as Bruce hit Chaz to move the chains. A spike killed the clock at 41 seconds. Then, on the next play, Gradkowski hit rookie Louis Murphy deep for a big-time touchdown on the left side of the field and a booth review upheld the call. Janikowski's extra point tied the game, 17-17, with 33 seconds left in regulation. On the kickoff, wide receiver Andre Caldwell ran to the right and tried to cut it back toward the middle. He forgot the most important thing: the football. Tight end Brandon Myers recovered the fumble and Janikowski nailed 33-yard field goal. The game is over and the Raiders walk off the field with a stunning 20-17 upset of the Cincinnati Bengals.

My Thoughts and Tidbits: Wow, what a different a competent quarterback makes? If Gradkowski doesn't hit Heyward-Bey last week, maybe we're 4-6 instead of 3-7, Still, let's enjoy the win. Gradkowski did a tremendous job and he earned my vote for player of the game. He plays with heart. Nnamdi Asomugha did a pretty good job on Chad Ochocinco when he covered him. From what I can recall, Chad only caught one pass on Nnamdi. Ochocinco's lone grab in the second half was against Chris Johnson, who had trouble defending others in this one as usual. Without a doubt, this win feels great. It's the sweetest win of the year if you ask me. Next, we have the Dallas Cowboys on Thanksgiving. It'll be on Thursday afternoon, the same time as this one was on CBS. Luckily for us, it won't be blacked out so most of us won't have to catch a stream. With all that said, enjoy the victory, nation. I don't care what they say. We earned it.

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Weekly Recap Poll: Who was the Oakland Raiders player of the game?
Tyvon Branch: 12 tackles (11 solo), 2 passes defended, 1 sack
188 votes
Bruce Gradkowski: 17-for-34, 183 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT
454 votes
Sebastian Janikowski: 2-for-3 field goals, 2-for-2 XP
19 votes
Zach Miller: 5 receptions, 65 yards, 1 TD
36 votes
Other
13 votes

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Greta recap, great game

You know they should make you a mod.

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Nov 22, 2009 4:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Idiots like mike keep that from happening.

by slapchop on Nov 22, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How do I keep it from happeneing

asshole? I’m not a mod.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 22, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Props anyway, Mike

You called it right on Gradkowski a long time ago.

by rightnasty on Nov 22, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If this doesn't fire Russell up

then there is truly no hope.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 22, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It might console

 you that jr waving a towel in the Steeler fashion, unfortunately it was a white towel and the thought occurred that he might be attempting an unauthorized surrender.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he's surrending to

Gradkowski?

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 22, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Just

Hate to see $60 million down the drain.

by rightnasty on Nov 22, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well I've been thinking about that

it’s def 32 million, but the rest of the contract is incentive based…..

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 22, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I understand, so work ethic means

that if you pay someone to do a job that they’re incapable of doing they still have to try to do it and you have to allow them to try even though in vain. Huh, woulda you know, all this time I thought it meant something else.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Where the hell did you get that from my post?

What I meant is it won’t be a full $68 million we’ll pay him in the long run.

But thanks for taking my comment in the most incorrect way possible.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2009 4:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Is it not true

that after the victory you wrote ca 5pm:

“No to Russell going
Maybe this will spark a fire under his ass. …”

This with your other comments an only be interpreted as harboring a deluded unhygienic hope.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 23, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And what does that have to do

with his contract?

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You should know since you'r the one who wrote it

It came non sequiter under my comment so I looked at what you were writing about between 5 and 6 pm and found your delusion expressed again that Russell might be a Raider some day.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 23, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

When the fucking hell

did I say Russell might be a raiders you moron?

Just

Hate to see $60 million down the drain.

by rightnasty on Nov 22, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well I’ve been thinking about that

it’s def 32 million, but the rest of the contract is incentive based…..

I commented that it won’t cost us the total 60 million.
That’s all I commented.

Stop putting words in my mouth. Look at my posts on here and you’ll see I’m one of the most negative towards Russell. Get your facts straight.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

oh and you mean the fire russell up

I don’t Russell back. I’ve been calling him a bust for a long time now. What I meant by that would be he’ll just confirm what I’ve been saying. You should ask me to clarify before you jump all over me like rabid bull dog.

And people think I’m an asshole.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2009 6:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt

Reviewing your statements on this subject over the last week it’s quite clear. You are embarrassed now and that’s a good sign that the truth is entering your thick skull.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 23, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

WHAT THE FUCKING HELL

is wrong with you? You’re talking in fucking circles.

I’m embarrassed about what?

I’m embarrassed I ever started this conversation with you. You truly are where brain cells go when they die.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought that

RRS Was?

Wake me up if we win

by nishal26 on Nov 22, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope you can see them at the bottom of the page

It’s the RaiderWay , LiveAdam, 67MARQUEZ, and KA1Z3R

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Nov 22, 2009 5:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why isnt' Saint listed?

I’ve been wondering about that for a while. Anyone know the answer?

by guapobob on Nov 22, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Cuz he owns and runs the site

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2009 4:30 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I posted this in last weeks recap
I figure the Bungholes will beat the RaiDURRS by at least three touchdowns next Sunday.

I am so happy to have been dead wrong there.

Hey Al, just go away, baby.

by doctorK on Nov 22, 2009 4:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Game Picks

I actually picked the Raiders as my upset special this week. I was 7-3 on those coming in and I just had a feeling about this one. This was a classic letdown game for the Bengals. Look back to my comment last week on the recap.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 4:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Im So Happy...

Im so happy Bruce helped me out with my Second Season Predictions. Some said I was stretching with some ideas. But im right so far…Great Recap again.To slapchop, mike is not an idiot..I respect his opnion more than most on this blog.

by Remix. on Nov 22, 2009 4:48 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

wow i was following game via Blackberry

at my Aunt’s house…what a comeback wow why can’t we play like this all the time…

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

thanks for a great season Rockies!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 22, 2009 5:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Answer
what a comeback wow why can’t we play like this all the time…

Well, Gradkowski wasn’t starting then.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yea i mean Russell wasn't the full problem

but no way does that piece of shit drive us down the field 80 yards in less than 2 mins….Go Bruce…Go silver and black!

we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE

thanks for a great season Rockies!

LETS GO WINGS!

by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 22, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good game guys, we let this one get away

But props to Gradkowski for having enough sense to evade pressure and throw the ball away instead of forcing it. Had J-Russ started, I believe it would have went the other way. Also the rest of your team seems to play better for Bruce. Heyward-Bey made a good catch in man coverage today that I’ve seen him drop before. Beat the stoolers for us like KC did and I’ll call it even.

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 5:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Touchdown Passes

I forgot to include this in the recap, but Russell and Gradkowski have both thrown for two touchdown passes each this season.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 5:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Haha.

Gradkowski in one game matches Russell’s in 9.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 22, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

He might have had three in five quarters had it not been for Heyward-Bey’s mishap last week.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I forgot about that play.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 22, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Disappointment

It’s what they’re dealing with. Their knee-jerk reactions do not surprise me.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

DAMN

jesus christ.! man i thought we were negative… they’re talking about giving up on the season and firing there coach… they’re 7-3.! and the steelers lost too. to Kansas City.! Raiders made the plays Cincy made the crucial mistakes we usually make. sucka.!
GO RAIDERS.!

by ButtMunch on Nov 23, 2009 12:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know they should be happy they're 7-3

last time i checked they were still the Bengals

I'm gametime_gsw, and I approve this message.

by gametime_gsw on Nov 23, 2009 6:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We need a stud at MLB
  1. was the weak link, at least, today.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 5:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Morrison

I think if we draft a defensive tackle and he pans out, Morrison will play better or at least look better.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 5:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

#52

blew coverages over the middle allowing several, at least 3, long 3rd down conversions, Morrison’s pathetically lame shoelace tackles draw involuntary smirks from rivals and revulsion from fans. The Sons-of-Blanda love the Defensive overall what an effort but if we are going to go to the big game next year we won’t be able to do it with that weaklink in the most vital defensive position.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I’m surprised by your comments. It’s hard to blame just one single guy when the opposition converts long third down plays.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A team is made up of individuals

and can only be as strong as the weakest individual

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kirk is a very good player

It doesn’t help a MLB when he has no D line to help

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Nov 22, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But the D-Line was outstanding today

Look, I isolated him with the binoculars and I’m telling you he didn’t look good. It gives me no pleasure to report this. I hope he has a great game against Dallas and I’ve nothing against Morrison personally. But if he plays like a fuckhead your going to hear about it.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kirk Morrison leads the team in tackles

and he was second among the linebackers in tackles today.

Do you have any stats to back up your claims or just what you claim to have seen with your binoculars?

by sirbed on Nov 22, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Morrison had 4 tackles and a fumble (check your stats again))

T. Branch alone had 11 and on it goes. If you look around the league today, as I did a minute ago, e.g. Washington’s MLB, Fletcher had 8 tackles and 5 assists, Bracket, the Colts MLB had 8 and assist,, Foot w/Detroit had 9 tackles.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But, apparently, a tackle/quater average has become acceptable

… tackles, of course, don’t tell the whole story – I much prefer watching a player operate. What did you think of the way Morrison moved around behind the D-line today?

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 7:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

check my stats again huh?

I wrote that Morrison was second among the linebackers in tackles today so my facts weren’t wrong.

Howard led the linebackers with 5 tackles and Morrison had 4.

by sirbed on Nov 22, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

While I didn't think Morrison had a great game

saying the guy who leads the team in tackles is playing like a f**khead is wrong.

I’m not knocking your knowledge of football but you weaken your argument when you call good football players names.

Also you keep saying I’m wrong in my posts but I’m offering up stats that make my point.

by sirbed on Nov 22, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I take it back

I’m a little hypersensitive or frustrated about the complacency I perceive with coaching and the Nation regarding key positions. It’s as if certain players are entitled, get a free pass, regardless of their performance – especially Morrison and Bey. I got carried away.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Heyward-Bey

Most people have been on him since the first day he got here, and now pretty much everyone is on him.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough Sons-of-Blanda

hey we all have things that tick us off when it comes to our Raiders.

One thing we can all agree on is that this was a heck of a win.

by sirbed on Nov 22, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

depends on his role in the defense

sometimes I wonder about kirk but then i remember that he does a great job of lining them up and making the right audible before the snap. Today we had Sam Williams and R. Thomas helping out, and they are big guys expecially Sam Williams. As a group today, they were effective.
I wonder what would have happened with Cedric Benson out there.

by Sbay on Nov 23, 2009 1:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

MLBs are the QBs of D. So, I felt uncomfortable last night and this morning about getting carried away with my criticism of Morrison because he was doing the organizing part well. But, putting field management aside, I’m not taking back any of my assessment of his physicality yesterday. NFL linebackers should be intimidating, their hits painful, their grasp like iron.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 23, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Richardson

Was an animal out there today.

by rightnasty on Nov 22, 2009 5:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

#98 was great and so was

Ellis and Howard, in fact, I saw so much hussle to the ball and good tackling I was almost moved to tears. But Morrison’s play made me angry.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dam

He would have been a force but I’m interested on how Greg Ellis handles playing against the team he was with for like 10 years.

Wake me up if we win

by nishal26 on Nov 22, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ellis will be motivated bigtime

Would love to have Big Sey on the other side because I think he could have a huge day against the rapidly deteriorating Flozell Adams. I think Richardson will do fine though.

"'Tis a bird I love, with its brooding note, And the trembling throb in its mottled throat; There's a human look in its swelling breast, And the gentle curve of its lowly crest; And I often stop with the fear I feel-- He runs so close to the rapid wheel." Nathaniel Parker Willis, "The Belfrey Pigeon"

by Raybin on Nov 23, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Seymour will play ... status of others

Brown, Ricky Ankle – Out
Ekejiuba, Isaiah Ankle – questionable
Ellis, Greg Knee – questionable
Eugene, Hiram Shoulder – probable
Miller, Nick -Out
Walker, Javon Hamstring -Out

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 24, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So I guess

at this point, we’re going to get Nick Miller back for 4 games…maybe. The entire point of keeping him on the roster was to find out if he can handle returns so we know if we need to draft or sign someone next year? What a complete waste of a roster spot.

by Rusty23 on Nov 24, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Richardson's efforts have been underappreciated since he came here

He’s not spectacular, but holds the edge well against the run and provides a decent pass rush. He’s an excellent backup and a servicable starter. Another good pickup Al uncovered in the mid-rounds of the draft. How he can draft well in the mid rounds but keep blowing his first rounders is beyond me.

"'Tis a bird I love, with its brooding note, And the trembling throb in its mottled throat; There's a human look in its swelling breast, And the gentle curve of its lowly crest; And I often stop with the fear I feel-- He runs so close to the rapid wheel." Nathaniel Parker Willis, "The Belfrey Pigeon"

by Raybin on Nov 23, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

moreover,

he was moved out of position one-on-one, totally removed from play and, even worse, his reads took him out of play. Maybe he especially sucked because everyone else played so well by contrast.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Goodness God

Over at the Bengals blog, their acting like the the worlds over. They can’t except the fact they loss to a good team. People on their are predicting them to 8-8 or 7-9 just beacause they lost to the OAKLAND RAIDERAZZZZ……

by Remix. on Nov 22, 2009 5:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I still think we win the division

First Round Bye however is out of the question. 12-4 is still likely, or 11-5

by Danimal, Destroyer of Worlds on Nov 22, 2009 5:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Perception shapes reality

And I perceived a really good Raider team with only two or three weak links. Once they’re addressed – lookout. We are emerging from the meltdown and it’s good to be alive.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Despite difficulties stopping the run

This was our best all around game of the season (oddly, it comes right after the Warriors best game also—addition by subtraction in both cases). With a pro QB and three good running backs, our offense can be competitive. I do not say good, but competitive.

We caught some breaks—Cincy is probably kicking themselves for the turnovers and missed FG—but in previous games, we haven’t been able to convert mistakes into points.

Bruce is a Rich Gannon type QB—quick feet, throws a flat ball, doesn’t have a strong arm for deep throws—but he’s also like Rich in that he studies the game and can think on his feet. He made a lot fewer bonehead plays than JR typically does.

Very fun game to watch after the first two Cincy TDs. Really good effort by the Raiders for most of the game. The defense can play a lot better when they’re not on the field all the time.

@worldblee on Twitter.

by worldblee on Nov 22, 2009 5:59 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Bengals

They had been 6-0 when rushing for 170 yards coming into today, I think.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 6:01 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Skill Level of the Raiders

The Raiders are terrible…HAHAHA im a steeler fan, and thanks for taking it to the bengals. the team is showing some improvement w/o russell. see you guys next week in pit

by Disparity on Nov 22, 2009 6:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Pittsburgh

We’ll be headed there in two weeks, not next week.

By the way, way to blow it in Kansas City today.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 6:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Why show him mercy

when he doesn’t know his own schedule?

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2009 4:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Janikowski

Watch his game-winning field goal over here.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 6:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm pumped

Great game Raiders! Have a great week Nation and see you guys on Turkey Day!!!

"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra

by Ovale Fan on Nov 22, 2009 6:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

no russell

and the whole team seems to play harder HMMMMMM?

by TRURAIDA on Nov 22, 2009 6:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Funny how the o-line

let each RB have at least 4 YPC and no allowed sacks……

I’m just saying it’s an interesting turn of invents against the 10th ranked D.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2009 4:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good recap RRS and a good win for the Raiders

I expect the first part but I’m quite pleased with the second.

This gives me a little more hope as I go to Dallas on Thursday to see our Raiders take on America’s most wanted team.

Gradkowski played better than I thought he would and I couldn’t be happier about being wrong.

My only real complaint is with the play calling as Cable needs to pick one of the backs and let them get into a rythm. This going back and forth between all three backs is hurting the team.

I rec’d this post and I would encourge you to do the same as these are the kind of fanposts we need more of on Silver & Black Pride.

by sirbed on Nov 22, 2009 6:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Can't agree with you more.

Now I can look forward to sitting with the many Cowboy fans in their home field and having a wee bit of HOPE!! I also hope more of the RAIDER NATION will on hand in Dallas????

by Mustang Raider on Nov 23, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Justin Fargus

carried several time in succession. Cable was better than usual today and the defensive stunts with the cornerbacks were effective. I’m not in the mood now to criticize Tom Cable.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 6:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Justin Fargas

what do you consider to be several times in succession? Only twice in the game did Fargas have two runs in a row and he had only 8 rushes for the entire game.

Michael Bush only had 4 carries and McFadden had 6 so no none of the players “carried the ball several times in succession” as you claim.

by sirbed on Nov 22, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"I try to get out and they pull me back in"

Meant two successive carries on separate occasions. But, my wife tells me that “several” is an amount greater than 2. She’s often right.
Btw, she also told me, “Morrison played like a sissy.”

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice recap, RRS!

Nice win, boys! I had zero confidence in that 4th down conversion. Glad to see I was wrong. Then that final turnover, and the place went wild! Despite the turnovers, best game of the year, so far. Could this be a turning point? And who is at quarterback on Thursday?

I never considered taking him out. I had a commitment to his heart. - Johnny King

by lynnzgal on Nov 22, 2009 6:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

lol!

I never considered taking him out. I had a commitment to his heart. - Johnny King

by lynnzgal on Nov 22, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I don't see them going back to JR,

just throwing it out there.

I never considered taking him out. I had a commitment to his heart. - Johnny King

by lynnzgal on Nov 22, 2009 7:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It was the best game of the year lynnzgal

I finally got to talk some smack to my friends today which is always nice.

My Uncle is a big Cowboys fan and we’re going to the game with several other friends and family so hopefully the Raiders will give us a good game on Thursday.

by sirbed on Nov 22, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Bloom

I told him we’d win today.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You totally called it!

Let’s hope they can take all that we saw today (minus the turnovers) to Dallas.

I never considered taking him out. I had a commitment to his heart. - Johnny King

by lynnzgal on Nov 22, 2009 7:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dallas

I hope we knock Tony Romo on his ass a few times (per quarter) with the ball poppin’ loose everywhere.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hell, yes!

Better than a turkey dinner with all the fixin’s (but can I have both, please?)

I never considered taking him out. I had a commitment to his heart. - Johnny King

by lynnzgal on Nov 22, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lets not start talking turning point again

 we said that after philly and look what happened. One week at a time here. If we do good on a short week, then maybe I’ll start mention turning points.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2009 4:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Game was a perfect example

of what can happen if you have a quarterback who can lead you on drives. JaMarcus led us on one actual real touchdown “drive” this year in game 1 vs. San Diego. Everything else was a short field or big play.

Gradkowski led us on two in his first game.

by RLangford on Nov 22, 2009 6:57 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Obvious Chief fan here...

You go Raiders. The underdog pulls through again.

When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

by NJChieffan16 on Nov 22, 2009 7:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

For Bengals fans thinking it's the end of the world

They gotta remember we’ve also beaten the Eagles and nearly beaten the Chargers. We may not be very good most of the time but the Raiders somehow have upset potential.

by GoldenStateGuerrero on Nov 22, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm very proud of the Raiders

They played every down full out and with the old enthusiasm of yester years. A voice of command was heard for a change in the huddle and the defense is almost good enough to take us all the way.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 7:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

I saw confidence and willingness by the entire team for the full 60 minutes today that I have not seen the entire season. It was refreshing.

I never considered taking him out. I had a commitment to his heart. - Johnny King

by lynnzgal on Nov 22, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Refreshing is a good way to describe it

the team hung in there and when the breaks came their way late in the game they did what they needed to do to get the win.

by sirbed on Nov 22, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This was an Un-Believable Victory!!!

Down by 7 with less than a minute left?!?!?!

The they won by 3 IN REGULATION!!!!

To be there was be someWHERE today!!!

RRRRAAAAIIIDDDEERRSS!!!!!!!!!

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by saint on Nov 22, 2009 9:04 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

We almost left after that third down.

So glad we didn’t!

I never considered taking him out. I had a commitment to his heart. - Johnny King

by lynnzgal on Nov 22, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Many who were casual must have become Raider fans today

This was exactly the type of game that made me a Raider fan, coming from behind with clutch plays, game management, hard fought through the last play.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 22, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And many who have been fans for many years,

must have felt renewed. I know I did!

I never considered taking him out. I had a commitment to his heart. - Johnny King

by lynnzgal on Nov 22, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Injury Update

Linebacker Ricky Brown is out for the season after being placed on injured reserve today.

OAKLAND — Starting linebacker Ricky Brown has been shut down for the rest of the season. His right ankle injury just didn’t heal soon enough for him to play the rest of the season.

The Raiders signed undrafted linebacker David Nixon from their practice squad and added him to their 53-man roster. Nixon is from Brigham Young and also is versatile enough to help out on special teams.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 22, 2009 9:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Look forward to his full recovery

he provides a spark to the D. And lights a fire under Kirk’s ass too, and let’s him know his job isn’t a sure thing.

by brhynno on Nov 22, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Kirk's job could be a sure thing for the next 8 years...

…if they would just put him at the damn SLB position. All his weaknesses are masked there and his strengths are magnified.

Moving Kirk to SLB and drafting Brandon Spikes or Rolando McClain makes so much sense that we know Al won’t do it.

"'Tis a bird I love, with its brooding note, And the trembling throb in its mottled throat; There's a human look in its swelling breast, And the gentle curve of its lowly crest; And I often stop with the fear I feel-- He runs so close to the rapid wheel." Nathaniel Parker Willis, "The Belfrey Pigeon"

by Raybin on Nov 23, 2009 9:53 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm with you 100% on that

Definitely need a true Mike backer.

by brhynno on Nov 23, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I liked what I was hearing about Nixon out of camp

Granted, he’ll probably never be much more than a Sam Williams/Ekejiuba 3rd-string-special teams ace type, but that’s really all we need right now. I think a guy hungry for his shot will cover well.

"'Tis a bird I love, with its brooding note, And the trembling throb in its mottled throat; There's a human look in its swelling breast, And the gentle curve of its lowly crest; And I often stop with the fear I feel-- He runs so close to the rapid wheel." Nathaniel Parker Willis, "The Belfrey Pigeon"

by Raybin on Nov 23, 2009 9:52 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That hit on Grad had me worried

Saw he was in pain, and all I could think about was Russell putting on his helmet and taking the field again. Had that sinking “here we go again” feeling until he actually went out there on the next possession.

by rightnasty on Nov 22, 2009 10:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the recap RRS

this is the first game I have missed all season I cant believe I missed it!
What a great win though obviously had everything and if that is not the kind of win that breeds confidence then nothing is.

Seems like the first time that i can remember in forever the luck went our way, what a game for Tyvonn (my official new fav player) and from what I saw Schillens really showed why he is so important, all we need is for the quarterback to do is be steady to be competitive and seems like Bruce was all that and more today.

i HIGHLY recommend watching the press conference on Raiders.com if you havent already, Tom Cable is great, Murphy talks of his pride in the team and Gradkowski asks questions like he actually played in the game which is another big improvement at the position (Bruce was actually very impressive) so check it out.

This team has enough talent to win the young guys just need to learn consistency

"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell

"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour

Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'

by Ozraider on Nov 23, 2009 3:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

sorry 'bruce ANSWERS questions'

"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell

"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour

Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'

by Ozraider on Nov 23, 2009 3:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

             I don’t care what they say. We earned it

Thats exactlt right we earned it, and we did it against a good team. what can the haters say now? WHAT CAN YOU SAY NOW?

I'm gametime_gsw, and I approve this message.

by gametime_gsw on Nov 23, 2009 6:54 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

This game makes you wonder...

…if the team can play decently with an extremely medicore career journeyman/backup like Gradkowski, what could they do with a real franchise under center?

God, I hope next year is uncapped so Al can cut his losses with JaMarcus and not suffer any cap penalties. If the Raiders can finish even at .500 in the last 8 games (1-1 right now), I think the old man might have his eyes opened to just how much Russell is NOT the answer.

Strong ending to the season + uncapped year = Goodbye Russell, hello Jake Locker.

"'Tis a bird I love, with its brooding note, And the trembling throb in its mottled throat; There's a human look in its swelling breast, And the gentle curve of its lowly crest; And I often stop with the fear I feel-- He runs so close to the rapid wheel." Nathaniel Parker Willis, "The Belfrey Pigeon"

by Raybin on Nov 23, 2009 9:59 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's a total reflection of Tollner's influence on a guy who can execute it

Have you seen the sparkle in his eye these days? Hackett too. Let’s hope we can finish strong, and some guys will be drooling at the opportunity to run this offense under center.

by brhynno on Nov 23, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gruden believed in Gadkowski

and so do I. He’s similar to Gannon, complements the current line which provides minimal time to throw. His mind and body are so integrated that he just reacts, he’s decisive and really accurate – once settled in. We need smart brute players more than skilled players right now.
I want a MLB who intimidates runners and puts receivers in dread, who covers the middle and strikes like a heat-seeking missile.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 23, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone heading to the Raider/Cowboy Game?

I am going to be traveling with a load of Cowboy fans to the game and hope to see much more Silver and BlacK!

by Mustang Raider on Nov 23, 2009 1:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sirbed

He’ll be going.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 23, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Poll Question

This is the poll question for the Oakland Tribune site.

Will JaMarcus Russell develop into a good quarterback some day for the Raiders?
Yes7%
No 93%
Total votes: 265

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 23, 2009 2:58 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Attendance

According to Gary Radnich of KNBR, yesterday’s attendance was the lowest for a Raiders game since 1967.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 23, 2009 3:51 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad Bruce saved the day!

But this game would’nt have been close with out Tyvon Branch’s ball’n game

"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "

by RUKidding on Nov 23, 2009 6:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Without a doubt

or Defense came up big. 11 tackles for – yardage. And Asmo getting that pick at the end just to seal it off.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 23, 2009 6:54 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

any bets?

that ja’passthecornbread russell still doesn’t care unless his check doesn’t show up in his account this week.

by TRURAIDA on Nov 23, 2009 8:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ski Cap

Send him one and all is well, right?

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 23, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone know why

Shaughnessy didn’t play at all?

by Rusty23 on Nov 24, 2009 8:21 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Raider Fans...

First off, props on the terms and conditions, much better than a few of the NFC East teams.

More importantly, No Dallas stories yet???? The game is two days away! Let’s talk some Raiders/ Cowboys.

"I’m ready to go here, all right? It’s like R. Kelly at recess."
"You will come back stronger then ever. Like Lance Armstrong. But with two balls."

-Ari Gold

by Young Wiz on Nov 24, 2009 10:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Skittles

They’ve been endorsed by the great JaMarcus Russell. Look for a red pouch around the waist area.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 12:54 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

OMG

That can’t be real

Wake me up if we win

by nishal26 on Nov 27, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno I zoomed in as much as i could

and I can’t tell exactly what it is.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 27, 2009 5:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously I don't think that is Skittles

I am not saying that J-Russ is skinny but this is the NFL I doubt the coaches and personnel would even let him do that. I don’t know how Sanchez got a hot dog on the bench but I don’t think that Cable would sit back and watch his former starting QB sit there and eat himself to death.

Wake me up if we win

by nishal26 on Nov 27, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sanchez got the hotdog

cuz he was sick w/ the flu all week and didn’t eat real well and he needed some nourishment of some type at the moment. At least that’s what the media was reporting. It’s not like he eats at every game or anything like that. Just extenuating circumstances there.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 27, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Proof

It’s here. He was eating Skittles. There’s a bigger picture within the link of the link.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

All I see even w/ the bigger picture

is something red folded over and in his belt. Could be a play book. Could be skittles. Could be anything.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 27, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A Mystery

Well, I’m convinced! It’s Skittles!

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Im pretty sure

Its sun flower seeds. Very common in most sports. I actually think I saw him spitting seeds that game too.

by Remix. on Nov 28, 2009 3:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That would make sense.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Nov 28, 2009 7:18 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

OK so what

Have you ever eaten skittles? Well if you have then you are fat because this is exactly where the conversation will lead to, someone will say" He dosen’t care about football just eating Skittles on the sidelines" how would you feel if someone like every time you were about to eat something someone called you fat. The guy is human he needed something to eat and ate it deal done it won’t make his accuracy better or worse which is what we should be talking about Jamarcus not if he is eating Skittles or not. It dose look like Skittles though.

Wake me up if we win

by nishal26 on Nov 27, 2009 7:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Whoa

I’m not calling him fat. In fact, that didn’t even cross my mind. It’s just funny. I’ve never seen anyone eat candy on the sidelines before.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh

I though you were implying it. There are probably alot of things that go on around the sidelines like players talking to sex phone operators when they pick up the phones.

Wake me up if we win

by nishal26 on Nov 27, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

That’d be something.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We need that to get some hype

Back on the field you see DHB drop a pass, go to the sidelines, come back and Catch a one handed catch over Troy Paulamalu and Ed Reed. IDK how but both at the same time.

Wake me up if we win

by nishal26 on Nov 27, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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