Oakland Raiders Postgame Recap: Raiders 7, Cowboys 24
[Originally Posted: Thursday, November 26, 2009: 4:44 p.m. PT]

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For the first time in 39 years, the Oakland Raiders played a football game on Thanksgiving. Coming off of a big win against the Cincinnati Bengals, the Raiders looked to carry their momentum into Dallas on a short week against the struggling Cowboys. It was their second straight game against a team in first place with seven wins; however, this time, Oakland came up short. The Cowboys had a 17-0 lead at one point and the Raiders never quite got back into it and lost the game, 24-7. It was Oakland's first lost in Dallas all-time, falling to 3-1 there. Let's go deeper into the game.

Running back Justin Fargas ran hard and effectively, especially in the first quarter. [via a.espncdn.com]
First Quarter: The first five possessions that the teams combined for featured five punts, three by Oakland's Shane Lechler and two by Dallas' Mat McBriar. The Raiders came out strong with their rushing attack led by Justin Fargas, who had already racked up 56 yards in the first half. We saw lot of Darren McFadden, but not in the backfield. Head coach Tom Cable said he wanted to get McFadden about 20 touches and he was spread out as a wide receiver. The Cowboys got on the board led by a long 66-yard run by Tashard Choice. A Nick Folk field goal gave them a 3-0 lead. The Raiders couldn't sustain a drive of 30 yards despite good success on the ground. Bruce Gradkowski struggled early on. The Cowboys did a great job of bringing pressure.

Wide receiver Miles Austin did a lot of running in that second quarter. [via a.espncdn.com]
Second Quarter: On their first drive, Oakland had to punt yet again. It was already their sixth of the game in six possessions. In case you're wondering, no, Shane Lechler didn't hit the video board just yet. Dallas was able to get into the end zone, capping off a great 89-yard drive on a big-time 46-yard touchdown run by Felix Jones. Surprisingly, Marion Barber was the most ineffective running back in the first half. As the quarter went on, the less successful the Raiders offense became. A three-and-out punt gave the ball back to the Cowboys, but this time, Nick Folk couldn't hit a 49-yard field goal. A sack by Trevor Scott on third down apparently put Folk just out of range; however, they wouldn't be denied the next time they got the ball. Miles Austin, who had 130 yards in the first half alone, finished scorching the Raiders in the first half with a touchdown to give Dallas a big 17-0 lead heading into the half. The passing "attack" was very poor in the first half, thanks to a great Cowboys pass rush. Gradkowski was 5-for-15 and Louis Murphy made the lone catch among the wide receiver group, and it came with four seconds to go before the half. Just to note, the group Daughtry was the halftime show. My mom likes them.

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Third Quarter: The defense came out and got us a stop, thanks in part to Trevor Scott once again and Richard Seymour getting into the action. Then, the Raiders marched down the field in their best drive of the day. Initially using Michael Bush, Darren McFadden and Zach Miller to get into Dallas territory, Oakland was able to get into the end zone. Out of a shot gun, Gradkowski found Darrius Heyward-Bey on a four-yard touchdown pass. For Heyward-Bey, it was his first career touchdown reception. The drive wasn't easy, though, as Robert Gallery was called for a chop block on a sweet made by Louis Murphy. Nonetheless, the lead was cut to 17-7 with 5:37 to play in the third quarter. It was an impressive 11-play, 88-yard touchdown drive by the Raiders. The defense was able to force a punt after a sweet third down tackle by linebacker Kirk Morrison on Jason Witten. Another special teams penalty, though, forced Oakland to start their drive at around the five yard line. Three plays later, the punting unit was on the field as the quarter came to a close.

Tony Romo improved to 35-15 as a starter. [via d.yimg.com]
Fourth Quarter: A rare not-so-good punt by Shane Lechler kicked off the fourth quarter, and it put the Cowboys in good field position. It's not like they needed it. A big play by Jason Witten, who I benched in one of my fantasy football leagues because you care so much, put the Cowboys at the Raiders' eight yard line. A play fake to Marion Barber set up Roy Williams for his first touchdown grab of the day. Chris Johnson was trying to cover him, but it didn't appear as though he had much help on the play. Down 24-7, the Raiders had to dig themselves out of a seemingly impossible hole with just over 13 minutes to go in regulation. The offense couldn't get going yet again, and Shane Lechler was back out there. A booming punt gave Dallas the ball back and a chance to seriously put the nail in the coffin. The Cowboys had to punt after taking some minutes off the clock. The Raiders got the ball back with a chance to become the first team since 1998 to score a fourth quarter touchdown against the Cowboys on Thanksgiving. Gradkowski moved the ball down the field, particularly finding Zach Miller, Chaz Schilens and Darren McFadden. The drive, however, stalled as the Raiders failed to convert on fourth down. That effectively officially ended the game. Unlike the six-man Warriors in Dallas on Tuesday night against the Mavericks, the Raiders could not come away with a win against the Cowboys. Your final score is Dallas, 24-7.

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The Report Card: I'll give grades to the pass offense, rush offense, pass defense, rush defense and special teams. Of course, you're welcome to give your own grades in the comments.
- Pass Offense: D -- The passing offense struggled early and never really found much of a rhythm until the second half, particularly in that final drive of the game when the game was already decided. The protection was below average, for one, and the ball just wasn't getting into the hands of any targets. Gradkowski completed just 53 percent of his passes while throwing for an even 200 yards with a touchdown and no picks. It could've been a lot better early on when the game was competitive with a good rushing attack, but it wasn't and thus the "D" grade.
- Rush Offense: C+ -- The rushing game was there early with Justin Fargas and even Darren McFadden had a somewhat decent day in a small sample size. I wrestled between "C+" and "B-" for this aspect, but I think the solidness would have continued throughout the day with that 5.2 yards per carry average had it been for a more balanced attack. With that said, Gradkowski did have 30 yards himself. I'll go with "C+" over here. No one fumbled the ball on the ground this week (I'm looking at you, Michael Bush), so that's good.
- Pass Defense: D+ -- Tony Romo had 304 yards for a pair of scores. Miles Austin had a huge day, Roy Williams caught a touchdown pass and Jason Witten broke in the second half. Marion Barber even caught a 42-yard pass. The pressure was there on Romo sometimes even if we didn't get to him, so it went from "D" to "D+" for that effort. Still, it pretty much wasn't good at all.
- Rush Defense: D -- Take away a few big runs, the rush defense wasn't that bad. Still, the big plays count and you have to limit those against a pretty good offense. Felix Jones and Tashard Choice only carried it 10 times, but they ran for a wild 135 yards and each of their big runs set up points. Later on in the fourth quarter, Marion Barber ripped off a huge run of this own.
- Special Teams: D+ -- Shane Lechler was, as usual, great except for the punt to start the fourth quarter and Sebastian Janikowski never even attempted a field goal. The team did a pretty decent job limiting Patrick Crayton. On returns, the kick returns were bad and the punt returns weren't a whole lot better. Plus, committing a lot of penalties doesn't help. I have to go with "D+" with this category, making the report card full of the letter "D" and that's not good nor is it even average.
My Thoughts and Tidbits: I change my mind. I don't want to play on Thanksgiving ever again. I just don't. I don't really have much to say, but I can't say I'm surprised by the outcome. In 10 days, we have the 6-4 Pittsburgh Steelers at Heinz Field after they take on the Baltimore Ravens this Sunday. It's sure to be another tough road game for our guys. I hope this game didn't ruin your Thanksgiving. Enjoy the rest of your day and all of the football action yet to come during this long four-day holiday. Be safe and have a good one, guys.
Postgame Links:
- San Francisco Chronicle: No country for these men [David White]
- San Francisco Chronicle: Return to Dallas doesn't satisfy [David White]
- Inside Bay Area: Oakland Raiders get stuffed by Cowboys, 24-7 [Steve Corkran]
- Inside Bay Area: Raiders victimized by big plays in loss to Cowboys [Steve Corkran]
- Inside Bay Area: Jerry McDonald: Raiders' shortcoming on full display [Jerry McDonald]
- Inside Bay Area: Raiders notebook: Trevor Scott excels against Cowboys in his new position [Steve Corkran]
- ESPN: Cowboys roll up Raiders, grab sixth win in last seven games [Jaime Aron]
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Good work R
I voted other for DHB. He almost looked like he belonged on the field today! And that is all the thanksgiving miracle we could hope for.
Only dull people are brilliant at breakfast.
The kid did okay
The jury has reasonable doubt and is hung (I’m pulling for him).
While Bey comes around we have Zack (thank God) Miller. I love him. We need to throw more to McFadden – damn he’s fast once he gets some running room!
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 26, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions
eh
that dropped ball takes points away and he tends to fall down easily. But I’ll agree w/ his speed.
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The jury has reasonable doubt
and this is actually an improvement for Bey!
Only dull people are brilliant at breakfast.
by Rich Langford on Nov 26, 2009 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
Reasonable assessment
though too critical of Gradkowski. Yes, he had some early errant throws but after that our line was caving most of the time under the onslaught of attackers. #5 scrambled well for yardage and took care of the ball, except once. I wish he had just started running himself.
Defensively, where does one start? The middle is weak. The rush anemic. Assignments blown.
Coaching wise, WTF, Cable withheld the blitz, WHY?! He looked a little odd too, like scared, was he intimidated in Dallas?
Son-of-Blanda
See I wonder about this
cuz the games we won (aside from KC…KC just lost that one) we blitzed like crazy. So I’m wondering what stops him? Is it that Davis doesn’t like it and won’t let him? Or is it he sees something different on the field? I don’t get it. Kiffin wanted to blitz more too when he was our coach and it worked til we went into prevent D. And I wonder if Ryan blew the games on purpose, but that’s my opinion and my opinion only.
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We should have at least tried
I don’t know why he balked. It makes no sense. Does he think Romo is just too sharp? Cable gets a D- from me.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 26, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
we should have tried.
I don’t understand why we didn’t. We’re obviously effective at it.
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Nice write up.
And ohhh I wanted to pick Gradkowski for the player of the week HOWEVER I went w/ Fargas.
I wanted to go w/ Gradkowski only because throughout the pressure on him he did not lose the ball, he did make the good decisions to run when he had to and it wasn’t for his life it was for yardage. Gradkowski was not spectacular but he’s managing the game. I wish you would have put a coach grade up too because that would have been a F.
Our defense plays were just bad letting huge plays that never should have happened. That’s what cost us the game. And the lack of getting a pass rhythm in the first half of the game was due to calling rushing plays alot. But the Dallas defense caught on and then started to stuff us.
if you look @ the TD drive we had:
6 pass plays.
5 rush plays.
We mixed it up and kept the D guessing and we marched down field.
Pass opens rush and rush opens pass.
Check out the play by play here. I’d post it but the format doesn’t stick. Whoever writes the tools for this site should look into that.
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my thoughts on the opening drive of the second half
that drive is the model that we need to be striving for.. it is what this team is capable of with gradkowski in the driver seat… i like his mobility and i also like no fumbles and no picks either…does anyone think if Russel was in there he wouldnt have completey impolded under that kind of pressure it would have the Giants game all over again…by the way congrats DHB ur gettin there we all knew he was gonna be a project and he will hopefully become a bernard berrain type player
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."
Bernard Berrian
Yeah, I hope players drafted seventh overall turn out as good as the great Bernard Berrian.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 26, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
i think thats a reasonable expectation
no one thinks he should have gone seventh but its time to be realistic about who and what he is … i think ive done that in my projecting him to be a par with Bernard Berrian
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by TheAutumnWind on Nov 27, 2009 5:07 AM PST up reply actions
Bill Romanowski
He thinks JaMarcus Russell is the answer at the quarterback position. At least Tony Bruno was there to keep Romanowski in check.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 26, 2009 6:59 PM PST reply actions
he's not the long term
but Russell is not ready right now.
The way that pocket was collapsing. No way. I agree w/ Bruno.
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my god he still uses the
rookie WR excuse. And it may be part of the problem, but Gradkowki found Murphy and DHB both weeks.
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I'm so tired of that! And rookies or not, it's not as if they haven't been playing a position in football, all of their lives
where in the job is to CATCH the ball. Novel concept. Lot’s of rookies are catching balls throughout the league.
We’ll see them increase in percentage with more chances that Gradkowski currently gives them, but they need some time and have some work to do. Many plays were very close. Actually fortunate they didn’t go the other way.
The effects of concusions
often appear later. It’s really a shame.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 26, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
Morrison had those 3 open field tackles
But while RBs were packing it across the line, Kirk was still back peddling, his mind still in pass protection mode. Anyone between him and the ball carrier blocked him out of play. He does, however, make politically correct tackles, no one is hurt and everyone has fun and can be friends. He is a very nice young man.
Son-of-Blanda
haha
He doesnt have that Ray Lewis mentality but, he is a voice on the team. I think a switch to 3-4 would help alot with this team
Change
It’s something Al Davis doesn’t believe in.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
Sons-of-Blanda
Your seeing things that aren’t actually happening to prove your “point” now.
Did Kirk Morrison kick your dog or something because your obssesion with him being a bad player isn’t based on facts so it must be something else.
As far as him not having Ray Lewis’ mentality well you’re right Remix he doesn’t act like an ass before games or get involved in homicides and oh and by the way he has 12 more tackles than Lewis does.
Ray Lewis
He may be the best Linebacker to play this game. He is the hardest hitting, most imtimadating player in the NFL. Any coach would choose him over Kirk any day. Oh and by they way, Tackles hardly mean anything in todays game. Those tackles could’ve came in the backfield or secondary. Im just saying, Ray Lewis knows how to play the position better than anyone else.
Ray Lewis is a hall of famer
which is why I was pointing out that Kirk Morrison is better than Blanda thinks he is by comparing his stats to Lewis.
I am confused why tackles “hardly mean anything in today’s game”? Stats don’t lie and they say that Morrison is one of the better tacklers in all of football.
all tackles say is that the raiders defense is on the field way too much
if they werent giving up 10 play drives and forcing three and outs his tackles wouldnt lead the afc
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by TheAutumnWind on Dec 2, 2009 4:28 AM PST up reply actions
Not to mention our weak DT's
Seymour, #92, gives Kirk many opportunities to garner tackles, albeit after 4+ gains.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2009 7:45 AM PST up reply actions
Well..
Most succesful teams in the NFL use the 3-4. Oakland are the only AFC West Team not using the scheme
Defensive Schemes
Some teams are successful with the 4-3 and some are successful with the 3-4. It depends on your coaching philosophy and the personnel you have.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
Defense
I don’t know if we have the right kind of guys for a 3-4 switch and it’s not something I’m really for or against. As of right now, I’m not in total support of it. I mean, I won’t campaign for it or anything; however, if we do switch to a 3-4 defense, I’m alright with that as well. A run-stuffing defensive tackle could go a long way, though, for this defense.
The defense isn’t really the problem. Does it need to improve? Yes, of course it needs to improve. Everything needs to improve. I don’t know if a dramatic scheme switch to a 3-4 is really necessary. It is a thought, though. I still think we can be successful running the 4-3 defense if we blitz and get a run-stuffing defensive tackle.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 12:40 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
Either is fine. Im not trying to say make the switch tomorrow but, maybe install it in the offseason and draft accordingly. NT, LB. And I feel we need to improve the right side of the OL real bad. But, Keep Morrison at ILB along with a Brandon Spikes maybe and have Howard and Scott at OLB. Although I dont know if Hward would be a prototype 3-4 OLB. But he can adjust, as long as he is as fast as he is, he can play anywhere.
2010 NFL Draft
Right now, I’m torn between taking a quarterback, offensive lineman or a defensive lineman. I think those three are our biggest needs before linebacker or cornerback. With our seven picks, I think we need to draft a quarterback, center, right guard, right tackle, defensive tackle, outside linebacker and cornerback. Defensively, I’d target a defensive tackle first for sure. Our biggest problem is stopping the run. Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy and even Terrence Cody come to mind as they are the top three defensive tackles in this draft class.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 12:50 AM PST up reply actions
DL, OL, LB, QB
I believe thats the needs in order. With Bruce improving and playing well(Kinda) and JaMarcus coming back, I think we can find a Project QB somewhere in the 3rd or 4th. Gerald McCoy is a wonderful DT who is smart as well. And Im not real hip on the OL Draft Class. But a weakside Offensive Line man isn’t worth a Top 10 Pick. And Id Love to steal Brandon Spikes somehow, but I doubt Al knows we need a MLB. I love Captain Kirk, but hes not ment tobe the man in the middle.
sans the true nose tackle
No one big enough, or unmovable enough currently to fill the spot. We should draft one.
You're looking live....
Well I think I can describe being at the game live in one word….boring. But I’ll use a few more words I guess.
The stadium is amazing, the Cowboy fans didn’t give me too hard a time when they easily could have and if you get a chance to see a game there my advice would be to do it.
Please no more posts calling Bruce Gradkowski “very accurate” or “accurate” because he’s not.
The defensive line is bad on TV but it’s scrary bad live as the tackles are beyond awful. Chris Johnson is the very definition of weak link in the secondary and is Michael Bush still on the team?
Are you a Cowboys fan?
Cause your kinda being a little harsh on our Raiders dont ya think? I think your a little confused, you belong over at Blogging The Boys..The awkwardly name Blog about Dallas. Stop Hating dude. Keep it postive if your gonna critique OUR team.
I've been a Raider fan longer than you've been alive Remix
I’m sorry what exactly were the positive things coming out a 24-7 loss?
I’m not hating dude I’m being honest about a team that has the worst record in the NFL the last 7 years. If you think being a fan means not being critical of the team you support then you need to grow up.
I’ve been a Raider fan longer than you’ve been alive Remix
I never understood how people can make this comment on here when very few of us know how hold the others are….
And as for positive. We saw DHB get his first TD. Fargas was a beast. Huff was a presence. Gradkowski has legs and know how to use them. He was able to do screen passes w/ the Defense in his face. A Wide Receiver caught a ball.
No, it wasn’t a good game. But there are positives to look at.
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Remix is 16 at least that's what he says he is on his fanpage
so yes I have been a Raider fan a lot longer than he’s been alive.
I don’t see many positives from a 17 point loss mike but I’m glad you were able to find some (and I agree with your points) and maybe I’m just sour because it was such a boring damn game.
I still glad we made the trip to Dallas but when you come away from a game being more excited by the stadium than the game that’s never a good thing.
The biggest problem was the play calling
The defense play calling was horrid at best.
The scoring drive was a mixture of passing and rushing. We proved we can effectively do this, I don’t know why we abandoned that after that. It’s also why I think Gradkoski does a better job of managing the game. The scoring drive was 4 rushes and 5 passes, or the other way around, I don’t remember which had the extra play. It kept the Defense guessing.
Also we had on turnovers on offense. And we would have scored again had McFadden been worth anything as a receiver. But I digress.
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Keep digressing Mike
I’m curious about your thoughts on McFadden. I also agree with you on the play calling.
The offense never seems to find any rythm and some of this is lack of talent but a bigger part is Cable’s play calling in my opinion.
McFadden had that catch
that Gradkowski dropped in his hands. Would have been sweet but he decided he didn’t need to catch the ball. I don’t really like McFadden to begin with and I didn’t want to draft him when we had Rhodes on the roster. He fumbles too much, he’s delicate (injuries), and he’s flimsy (drops when hit). I’m at the point I’d like to see Bush and Fargas trade off and use McFadden for up the side or as an extra WR.
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I don't like taking RB's that high in the draft
and so far McFadden has been a disappointment.
I still think Bush is the best of the bunch for what the Raiders like to do with the running game but what he had 3 rushes yesterday?
Fargas had a very nice 1st quarter but then he seemed to disappear and this goes back to Cable. Have any of the backs had a game where they got 25 carries this season?
Oh and good post RRS
I’m glad you started doing these posts. I know I rec’d it and I hope everyone else is doing the same.
Thanks
I appreciate it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
you know what was the 2 biggest plays of the game
go back to the 2nd quarter when we had them at the 11 yard line…Romo’s pass when off the WR shoulder pad up in the air and Scott ran into Johnson and they both missed it…would of been a pick 6 for Johnson and if not that play 2 plays later when austin fought for the 1st down that gave them big time momentum on that drive.
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
thanks for a great season Rockies!
LETS GO WINGS!
A pick 6 for Tyvon Branch
He and Trever Scott the DE collided and that drive was the Cowboy’s 1st TD drive we could have swung the momentum our way which would have been a pick 6 and the score would have been 7-3.
Wake me up if we win
Finally
Darrius Heyward-Bey caught a pass in the end zone. I feel like it’s right to give him that DHB moniker now.
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Heyward-Bey
It was his only catch of the day, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
For DHB
it was a hell of a game by his standards.
I watched DHB quite a bit during the game and he is fast but he doesn’t run his routes with much precision.
I did come away from the game thinking if I was the Raiders QB (scary thought as we’d be 0-11) I’d throw the ball to Miller quite a bit as well.
Miller got the ball a lot
but the Defense keys on him cuz they know he’s the go to guy. DHB’s precision should get better by next season.
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It does seem like receivers make a big jump in their second season
so let’s hope DHB does get better at running his routes. I do worry about his hands though as that’s the key for him. It doesn’t matter how fast you are or how well you run your routes if you can’t catch the ball.
I still have hope for DHB as I don’t think any player should be judged by what he does in his rookie season.
well I was impressed w/ that TD catch.
He really pulled it in and there as no chance of losing it.
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Sorry
I must have forgotten about a catch late in the game.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
Ball Distribution
Eight different targets caught a pass; however, only four of them caught the ball more than once and for more than just four yards.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 10:49 AM PST reply actions
Whoops
You can scratch that as Heyward-Bey’s late 17-yard reception put an end to that one.
Still, only Miller and McFadden caught more than two passes. Wide receivers did catch a total of six passes between them, though, so that number keeps improving weekly.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
Progress;
That summs it up I think. No- it’s not a win, and with the team missing some key elements (a coach with a solid background, a line that actually blocks, and a defense that doesn’t over-pursue) they aren’t likely to get more than 1 more win this year. I honestly believed they had a chance in this one BEFORE the game. Let’s face it, Gradkowski may not be the answer, but Russell is DEFINITELY not the answer, and until someone in a coaching or management position gives a damn about each players performance, the team will be slow to improve. As much as we bleed Black and Silver, we have to remember that NFL teams are a business and untill you hold the guy getting payed $35,000 or more a game accountable, he’s going to collect his check and go home regardless of a win or loss.
Ryan Mallett
Joe, I see that you’re an Arkansas fan. Right now, I fear that Al Davis will fall in love with Mallett’s big arm.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
What do people think about Trent Edwards for next year?
I still don’t like the idea of going with another rookie quarteback as like I’ve posted before the Raiders have only drafted and groomed one successful QB in their entire history.
Looking at the stats I’d say Jason Campbell is better than Edwards and if they’re both available I’d go with Campbell but Edwards has played better than David Carr has and he’s younger.
Quarterbacks
I don’t know about Edwards. I think if Campbell is there, we should go with him. I think it depends on how well Gradkowski plays, though. Whether or not we draft a quarterback, I don’t know. Instead of drafting a quarterback early on, I’d sign Campbell and maybe draft a quarterback in the later rounds.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
List
- Sign Jason Campbell.
- Keep Bruce Gradkowski if he performs well enough.
- If neither Campbell nor Gradkowski are options, look at a guy like Trent Edwards.
- Draft a quarterback in the later rounds.
- Get rid of JaMarcus Russell if you can without any cap penalties. Remember, with next year possibly being uncapped, this could be a viable option.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
I'm curious how much of a cap hit
Russell really will be. Alot of his contract is incentive based.
i did some quick research on Edwards, and I think I’d take him over Campbell, but I agree with your list.
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A lot of this will depend on whose available next season
if next season does end up being uncapped then it might be football armageddon and there could be some interesting names out there that might look good in silver and black.
Yeah- but I hope not.
Mallett’s good and can pick apart defenses, but not under pressure. Al needs to work on his O and D line. But that’s probably not exciting enough for him.
by Joesickness on Nov 27, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
That 1 more win this year?
Washington or at Cleveland look like the best bets at this point. I’ll be an optimist and say the Raiders win both of them.
5-11
That would tie our best record over the past seven seasons.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions
Well I think that alot of this season
was stubbornness from Davis to keep Russell in.
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I don't know.
I think our record would be better if we had put Gradowski in earlier.
A lot of people think Garcia would have been a savior. But he had shin problems most of the off season so I don’t know…..
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I have to agree we'd have won at least two more with Gradkowski
I remember the problems Garcia had, too. It’s arguable that a couple games we won, the rest of the team overcame the deficit that was Jamarcus to win the game.
reality
raiders are a shame. go ahead and relocate no one pays attention to you anyway
Thanks for sharing Chiefs fan
are you trying to say the Raiders are a sham? or that it’s a shame that the Raiders won their game at Arrowhead again this year?
Funny
This is coming from a guy who’s a fan of a team with the same record, right?
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I Don't know about you guys but stats mean nothing unless you win games
Sooo what DHB made a touchdown lol, All I know is that the silver and lost nation hasn’t been to the playoffs since the 2002 season. Sirbed was right about one thing tho that dallas vs raiders game was sooooo boring you could fall a sleep (( which is something I did in the second half )). The raiders defense looked pretty horrible out there trying to man to man Miles austin while our run defense was ripped a new ass hole. As long as the playcalling is under the control of Al Davis no coach will ever be successful here in oaktown. These young players are garage and haven’t done a thing. Hell and I should know since the warriors are pretty much doing the same thing like the raiders.
Heyward-Bey
Sooo what DHB made a touchdown lol
It’s better than him not making a touchdown.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
It's also a confidence booster
for him to keep trying and get better and not get dejected.
They say the team is one, but it’s also one person that can destroy it. He got a taste of it now and now he’ll want it again.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Stats don't lie but people distort and mis-interpret raw data
Wetbed, for example, puts his trust in stats. I think he missed the post-modern revolution re data and it’s interpretation.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 27, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Wetbed huh?
that’s not bad. I’m curious was I distorting data when you admitted in an earlier post that you couldn’t refute what I wrote about star players?
Oh and you still haven’t answered who the “great” middle linebackers of Raiders lore are.
You are right (congrats) I did miss “the post-modern revolution re data and it’s interpretation” because I have no idea what that means but hey I’m sure you’ll tell me.
I enjoy your posts Sons-of-Blanda (I mean that) as you have a passion for the Raiders but while you may think I mis-interpret stats at least I try and use stats and facts and not just opinion or what you think you see with your eyes.
Because I admit to being persuaded means I'm stronger not weaker
I’ll surrender my opinion if persuaded b/c I want to be closer to reality, i.e. truth.
You continue to distort what I wrote. Since you don’t value truth, let me do it. I wrote, “If Morrison plays like a fuckhead then you will hear about it.” That’s not the same as calling him a fuckhead, sport. And above I said that “The Tradition of MLB … is as great.” You leave out the word “as” and distort what I said. Stick with numbers but approach language with caution till you’re ready to write more responsibly.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 27, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
Suleku;
You seem to be pretty f-ing negative. The Raiders have been beaten and have looked FAR worse this year. Why don’t you dial it back a notch. They aren’t winning, but you know that before you turned the T.V. on yesterday.
I'd actually go with
JUST QUIT BABY for Al. I will take whatever sparse tid bits of happiness there are available, but in the end I think this team will have to be sold to someone that will run it as a business rather than their own Midevil Serf system.
by Joesickness on Nov 27, 2009 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Totally agreed man
I like the idea of Al Davis quitting however I hope the new owner doesn’t talk about moving the raiders to the south pole now o.o!
Big Plays
David White takes a look back at the 10 plays the Cowboys gained a total of 384 yards on in yesterday’s game.
But, 10 plays for 384 yards allowed, 494 total yards allowed, and another one-touchdown game on offense despite 305 yards of work? Horrible stuff.
Here are the bottom 10 plays in order of occurence, those 10 huge plays allowed aside.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 12:40 PM PST reply actions

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