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The Future of the Raiders D: A Ray of Hope



After watching that debacle of a Thanksgiving game, I found myself scrounging through box scores and highlight videos trying to find some ray of hope.

Other than DHB finally getting a touchdown catch, there wasn't much about the offense I was overly happy about. Play-calling is still questionable as Cable still seems to not want to utilize this running game. Yes it was inconsistent, but it worked better than that horrid pass attack.

 

But then I saw that which shows that this season was not a loss.

 

Our defense gave up big plays, but the defense (primarily the younger guys) played hard from start to finish. They had their low-point, but they never seemed completely demoralized at any point in the game. In a game like this where the offense was in a sheer tailspin and the D was being carved for several big plays, I've been so used to seeing the team just flat-out quit.

 

This defense had energy and had some promising moments, as it has all year. Though buried by some bad plays, this young defense has been getting slowly better as the year has gone on.

 

So just what can the Raiders do to get this D over the hump? Read on to find out.

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Step 1: Do whatever it takes to keep Ellis and Seymour

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With four sacks by Seymour and five for Ellis, these guys have created a dominant pressure unit and have really stiffened the run D to the outside. However, they also bring a winner's mentality and leadership to what was once a very disgruntled D-Line. They bring an energy that I haven't seen on this D-Line in a great many years.

 

But perhaps what they bring more than anything, is mentoring. I'm constantly reading and hearing about how much the young guys like Scott, Richardson, Bryant, and Shaughnessy are being taught by these guys both on and off the field. And it's definitely been showing. But we'll get to that later.

 

Though I would feel bad to do this Seymour, Davis needs to franchise tag him. As for Ellis, he still has a year or two left on his contract I believe. We need this guys for only really about a year more so the young D-Linemen can keep learning from them and eventually take over their roles as starters.

 

Step 2: Rotate the young D-Linemen in more

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These young Raiders D-Linemen have shown a great deal of promise over the past two years or so, despite being later draft picks or even undrafted. from Richardson, to Shaughnessy, to Scott, to Bryant; all of these guys bring something different to the table. However, they all bring something in common as well. Heart and energy.

 

Off the field they're constantly working on their games, competing with each other really; for more playing time. And in the process, have sped up their development processes. This strategy of late-round drafting by Al Davis to find hard working competitors who aren't necessarily good from the get-go has really worked when it comes to D-Linemen.

 

Which is why I think they need more playing time. In a way to help integrate them into starting spots when Seymour and Ellis move on, but to also further their development. Plus they're talented enough that they we wouldn't really lose all that much if they got more snaps.

 

Scott has come a long ways from looking atrocious in preseason to getting 4.5 sacks and making himself a very effective pass rusher whenever Seymour moves inside or there's an injury. While improved, his work in the run game is still pretty shaky.

 

Shaughnessy has seen time starting and is getting really good minutes. He's got 2 sacks and is doing a decent job in the run game. He doesn't really show up on any plays, but that's not always a bad thing. He doesn't make many big plays, but he doesn't allow any big plays either.

 

Richardson is the man closest to being a full-time starter. He's had plenty of starting experience in his career primarily sealing off the run. Though we've seen that pass rush get better and better every year. In far less time than years past, he's still managed two sacks; 1 off from last season's total despite not starting this year.

 

As for Bryant, he reminds me a lot of Warren Sapp. Except he actually works hard and tries. Very small for a DT at only 260, he is however incredibly fast. Like Trevvor Scott fast, maybe even faster. But he's got strong enough legs that he can get that good push in the run game as well. Our primary rotation man at DT, I'm interested to see what he can do next year with possibly some more time and more chances at the QB.

 

I look forward to watching these young D-Linemen grow and mature into what should be very good players in this league.

 

Step 3: Draft or sign a NT

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Though this goes against the Davis code of draft for speed, even he has to admit that his defense is plagued by big runs up the middle. With two pass rushers in Warren and Kelly there in the middle, this is to be expected. If Davis wants to go back to his ways of the old-school, even he should know that he can't do it without a big man built specifically for the run in the middle.

 

Three DT's to me are worthy of the pick, Suh of Nebraska, McCoy (Gerald not Colt) of Oklahoma, and Cody of Alabama. All three are big, physical, and command at least two blockers or else they'll be making plays in the backfield. All three are so big that they can fill up gaps in the middle and force runs to the outside, where the Raiders playmakers at DE would be waiting.

 

My man of preference is definitely Suh. Monstrous, great penetration, fills up gaps, and has a decent pass rush as well. Suh is an immediate contributor and is the best DT I've seen in an NFL draft since I started following the NFL.

 

Next up would be Cody. He'd definitely win the Terdell Sands look-a-like contest, but if they also wanted the contestants to play the same, Cody loses. Cody is a thousand times more dominant a NT than Sands could ever hope to be. Terrance is a freaking mountain in the middle. His strong lower legs coupled with his sheer size make him nearly impossible to move backwards. If you want a guy to redirect run plays and get some occasional penetration, there's no one in the draft better.

 

I don't know much about McCoy though many compare him to Suh but with less penetration capabilities in the running game. Not a bad pick, but with where we're drafting Suh and Cody are the top priorities.

 

With mentoring still available in their rookie years from Seymour and Ellis, there appears to be no better time to draft a NT.

 

Step 4: Get something at SLB

 

I've been calling for Morrison to move to OLB for a long time, but it clearly won't be happening. But it seems Kirk is finally getting a handle on the spot. Though of course there's definitely room for improvement on his part.

 

But that middle of the run defense seems to be greatly effected by the ineptitude of the Alston/Brown/Williams project of Davis. All three are liabilities in the run game, and all three in coverage is an automatic completion by the opposing QB.

 

While I don't know what lies in the draft or in free agency next year at the spot, it must be addressed. We need someone with proper size and tackling ability to be playing the side of the defense that sees the most runs its way.

 

Pass coverage is just an added bonus if this OLB possesses it, the main priority is a run stopper at the spot.

 

Step 5: Cornerback Depth

 

I'm not necessarily ready to cal lit quits on Chris Johnson, but Routt should not be our primary rotation corner nor the nickel back. I still want Routt on this team, but their needs to be somebody ahead of him on the depth chart.

 

As long as they're better than Routt, I don't care who Davis gets to fill the spot.

 

Summary:

 

With Seymour and Ellis still on the team and the development of the young DE's, this line would still seal off outside runs and create a lot of pressure and sacks. Throw in a good NT and a pass rush rotation of Kelly and Bryant in the middle, the defense of inside runs would be improved, but not necessarily solved.

 

Inside runs still falls on Morrison and a new SLB. The linebackers might be affected by poor interior D-Line play, but they still should be doing better than what they are next year. And since the Law Firm is still there, pass coverage should be pretty good.

 

The secondary should do much better if the front-seven manages to stop the run more. They could then expect pass plays instead of being caught off-guard by so many effective play-action plays. CJ, Routt, and the new CB would still need to work on their respective games. However, with enough pressure and what would hopefully a better job of run defense, they should be fine.

 

As for the unmentioned safety spot, Branch should be even better with another year under his belt and a full year starting. Free safety is an enigma based on what happens to the spot. Does Huff stay and maybe start, what of Eugene, or could Mitchell take over the role?

 

The offense still needs to get better so this D can stay fresh, but until then, they might as well build up the D to compensate for that offense.

 

And I see a very very birght future for the Raiders D if they stay on course.

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Agreed

Seymour and Ellis are good, steady veterans that the young linemen can model themselves after. Their veteran leadership is a great intangible. Seymour better be back just for the simple fact that we gave up our first-round pick in 2011 for the guy.

We definitely need a defensive tackle to stop the run. I think I’m leaning towards taking one with our first pick if either Ndamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy are available.

Guys like Ricky Brown, Jon Alston and Sam Williams just won’t cut it at outside linebacker as you have already noted. We are in need of a definite upgrade and have been for years.

We do need to look at cornerback at get something in there with Chris Johnson and Stanford Routt other than Nnamdi Asomugha.

At safety, I’m down with both Tyvon Branch and Michael Huff starting. I think they’ve earned it, really.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 12:29 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Huff showed me something in Dallas I haven't seen from our free safety spot in a long time

decent tackling. He made a couple good ones though he needs to work on his consistency.

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by KA1Z3R on Nov 27, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and can you give me some more info on Gerald McCoy

i hear he’s really good but I don’t much about him.

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by KA1Z3R on Nov 27, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gerald McCoy

Unlike Terrence Cody, he’s a three-down player and not a two-down player. McCoy penetrates well and has good vision. He will find the guy with the ball and bring him down. Another thing I like about McCoy is that he’s durable.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Cody is to an extent a three-down guy

because he can eat up blockers for Kelly or Bryant in the middle to burst through or free up any of the ends in the process.

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by KA1Z3R on Nov 27, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Great post KA1Z3R

I’m in agreement across the board I think. The Raiders have to keep Seymour as you can’t give up a 1st round pick for one year of service.

I’d love to see the Raiders take the biggest dude they can find and stick him in the middle of the D-Line because stopping the run is the Raiders biggest weakness right now on defense.

I’m not a fan of Chris Brown as a starter but I do think Branch and Huff (to my surprise) are guys that should start.

I’d love to see another athletic linebacker added and I’d like to see another CB drafted.

I’ve been thinking about this today and I asked my Dad, Uncle,Girlfriend and a couple other friends who went with me to the game yesterday and the one thing we agree on is that the team played hard yesterday just not smart.

I find myself thinking that Cable hasn’t done a bad job as a motivator but he’s killed himself as a head coach with how bad he is as the offensive cordinator.

I doubt he’ll be back next year but if he is the best thing he could do is fire himself as the OC.

by sirbed on Nov 27, 2009 2:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I meant Chris Johnson

who the heck is Chris Brown?

by sirbed on Nov 27, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Brown

One is a singer, one is a running back for the Houston Texans and one is a running back for the University of Oklahoma.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

hmm I'm 1 for 3 on who those people are

so I’m pretty sure I just screwed up (not the first or last time) as I know the Raiders CB wasn’t the guy who beat up Rhianna.

by sirbed on Nov 27, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rihanna

She’s such a sweet, innocent (and hot) girl.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and the only good thing on the radio

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by KA1Z3R on Nov 27, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Chris B.

really did a number on her face!!!

Ouch…

by MMunoz33 on Nov 28, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gerad Warren should be released

What does he do? He takes up PT from Shaughnessy, Scott, Dez and Jay. And Kelly hould maybe be released. Were very deep on the outside but we need a NT. Our 1sr rounder should be one. Trust me don’t draft a QB. A rookie QB for us won’t be any good and we don’t need another project.

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by dubzfan on Nov 27, 2009 2:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Warren

I’m not so sure that he takes playing time away from Shaughnessy, Scott and Richardson since they’re defensive ends and Warren is a defensive tackle.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The D line is fine

it is and has been the LB that is the problem. The Raiders desperately need a linebacker. Brown, Alston, Williams wouldn’t even play on other teams. The Raiders need a big time backer. Morrison is not a big time MLB, should be moved out and get a horse, a wild man in the middle. When you watch most other teams, the LB’s stick out, watch the Raiders and they are almost non-existent. In the final stats they look ok, a lot of tackles, but what you don’t see is that most of the tackles are 5 or more yards downfield.

by Laoren on Nov 27, 2009 4:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This is why we need a true MLB; a quarterback for the front seven

D backs will know their responsibilities. This is where Kirk is lacking right now. If he’s calling plays for the D, he’s reading the offenses wrong like 80% of the time, and like I read someone mention in the blog today, he’s remaining in the backpedal, having read pass, when clearly the other ten on D have already realized its a run!

Kirk is falling short calling the D. A stud at MLB would be in effect, right about now… He doesn’t even need to be as fast or athletic as Kirk, just more adept at shedding blocks, and getting the guys in the right places at the right times. Kirk is not to the Raiders, what Ray Lewis is to the Ravens. not at all.

by brhynno on Nov 27, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Defensive Line

Uh, it’s not fine when you rank 29th in the league in rush defense and you start Gerard Warren.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 27, 2009 5:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The middle is weak

concentrate on the heart, i.e. tackle(s) and MLB. Move Morrison to the outside or send him on his way – "Captain Kirk?’ I knew James T. Kirk and #52 is no captain Kirk. Frankly, he’s a joke as an NFL MLB. While the Raiders do not have a tradition of MLB’s there have been exceptions like Dalby and Millen – and Oakland was tough during those times. Going back to Big Ben Davidson and others – they were great then too. Oakland’s been a poor team for as many years as Morrison has been with them. This might only be a coincidence, but having him lead the Defense is a travesty. The Raiders have a tradition of leaving people in pain, physical anguish, even when losing on the scoreboard. This tradition has ended with Morrison who hit’s like a pussy when compared to even most of the better college MLBs.

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by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 28, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Morrison can't direct the players accurately, lacks physicality, can't shed blocks--the things that make a middle backer

Beginning to wonder if he’d cut it on the outside; we’ll need solid play from the linebackers against the outside runs too. But we have inconsistent play from the defensive tackles. A true nose tackle would improve the play of the linebackers, but Morrison is sorely lacking in the ability to read, react, and be the general for the front seven.

On plays where the middle of the defensive line makes big plays, the whole D looks different. That still doesn’t excuse Kirk’s lack of instincts at the position.

by brhynno on Nov 28, 2009 11:10 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Very insightful, K. The only NT I want is Suh, which means we'll probably never get him

Definitely need another solid cover corner. Nnamdi’s getting targeted, Routt plain sucks, and CJ getting burned too often for big plays.

Think we need an ILB and to move Morrison to strong side, but another guy for depth is not out of the question. I think they’d take the Sam backer with the earlier pick if a more talented guy was there, then again, we are talking about the Raiders. Anyone heard from that Stryker Sulak or Slade Norris at all, of late? What a waste of picks.

Agreed with RRS about Branch and Huff. They’re getting better all the time. Eugene has some cover skills too, but we don’t yet know how Mitchell will fit into this defense beyond special teams and additional dbacks in coverage sets, but we have yet to see if he’ll fit in as a viable backup to Branch or Huff.

I wonder what kind of heart and soul this defense would have were it not for the acquisitions of Ellis and Seymour. I hope we do what it takes to make them want to finish their careers here; the young corps of guys they’ve made invaluable impressions on can only help in that department.

Agreed we’re seeing more heart and less quit from the team, but the defense gave up way too many big plays—and I’m with Cable on this—it was a result of missed assignments and blown gap coverages on the run plays. We repeatedly had four guys penetrate the backfield immediately off the snap only to have the offense exploit the overpursuit again and again. They have such speed; they just need to learn to stay home and read and react better. D backs are doing great for the most part. Linebackers and some of the young D line locking in on the wrong thing to do before the ball is even snapped.

by brhynno on Nov 27, 2009 4:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

agreed on the blown gap assignments

but there’s still problems with the tackling and play recognition and that comes down to guys like Morrison and Williams.

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by KA1Z3R on Nov 27, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

very good post

I see the defense as being a couple parts away from being very good, We need to draft a tackle, get one linebacker and a nickel corner. All of which is doable in one draft. First pick get a DT, i think that would have the biggest immediate impact. Raji would have been nice last year, but this class is deep at DT

by nateroddick20 on Nov 27, 2009 9:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Doing all this is very doable with the coming class and FA market. A DT is the #1 need in my mind also. But the last time Al took a DL in the 1st was in 2003 . The Pick was also very late in the 1st. 32nd to be exact. Also, its been 12 years since they spent a Top 5 Pick on a DT. Darrel Russell. RIP. But he didnt exaclty work out in Oak. But that doesnt really mean anything. I hope Al does it right this year.

by Remix. on Nov 28, 2009 3:05 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Scratch That

Darrell Russell made 2 Pro Bowls in his first 2 seasons. But had a Steroid Problem

by Remix. on Nov 28, 2009 3:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you that our greatest need is a DT

the situation is worse there than at MLB

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by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Defense,Defense,Defense

I have stated in the past that this defense is not that bad and if we could add strength up the middle it could be very good.After watching Huff play on Thanksgiving I have to scratch my head, where has this guy been?Maybe we should trade him to Dallas because he was clearly motivated by playing in Texas or is it his contract year? whatever the case if he can play like that all the time adding the best available defensive player in the draft should be the call of the day.Mitchell has not shown much so I hope he gets a lot of playing time because if we need a safety this is the year to get a good one.At this point I would say that the off season should be spent on finding linemen on both sides of the ball,a middle linebacker and maybe a safety if Huff goes back to being just another guy.

by bayparkphil on Nov 28, 2009 11:01 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Huff has been showing up this year

When he got benched he started working w/ Nnamdi to get better. It’s shown.

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by mikesd1981 on Nov 28, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He was Glorious in the 1st at Dallas

up until that decisive play when Branch and Scott collided and the ball landed incomplete. Was that an evil omen?

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by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 3, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

do you think that(this will be a stupid question)

mitchell can be an OLB? he just needs to build up to that form.

then again, mitchel needs to learn how to shed blocks. sooooooo, can it happen if he builds himself up?

by patriotguy2 on Nov 28, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mike at OLB

I actually thought of that before. He hits like a phenom, but I dont know if he can play OLB yet. Maybe 20 pounds and 2 years later. Hes not there yet though.

by Remix. on Nov 28, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was at the game and JRusselll seemed to not give 2 shits about

 being demoted. …

During warmups Gradkowski and Frye are going all out and Russell was just trotting around and looking like he was just ready to get on the plane and head home.

Congrats to DHB for his 1st career TD catch!!!!

His momma is ready for her boy to prove his haters wrong. Let’s hope he can, because so far he hasn’t!!!!

by MMunoz33 on Nov 28, 2009 12:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I agree 100%

 This past week I was bloging on nfl.com and alot of us were talking about Suh and McCoy they would be a impact on the team from the get go. S. Routt again I agree with this move he has given up way to many big plays he is not a very good cover man since thats what the raiders run man on man coverage alot.

by soldier32 on Nov 28, 2009 5:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think Routt would be good against the #4 or #5 option

but versus the #3 option or even rotating in for CJ or Nnamdi when they need a breather is not good.

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by KA1Z3R on Nov 28, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Morrison

Kirk shows a lot of heart and pride. He’s simply over his head as a MLB. Fan get confused because he’s in loads of tackles. The problem is tackles 5 to 8 yards away from the line is still killing us. He’s a local player who has done a lot for the community. He can and should play outside. There’s a lot of value MLB in the second rounds. My thought would be the pick up Cody in the first, a MLB in the second, and an experienced QB such as Jason Campbell. I couldn’t take watching another rookie QB learn his stripes for the next 3 years. We are simply horrible at developing QBs. One of the few that I can remember is Steve Beurlein who was solid but not an all star.

by raiders4liffe on Nov 29, 2009 2:33 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

agreed very much so on Campbell

However Morrison should have been OLB all of his career. But Davis just refuses to move him there for some unknown reason. Maybe it’s because they just haven’t had anybody better for the spot (which they haven’t), but they haven’t exactly went out to find anyone for the MLB spot either.

I hope Davis grabs a big MLB in the second, but chances are that pick will go towards the O-Line to further help his precious Russell. I wouldn’t necessarily be upset with an O-Line pick in the second, but if Russell is still to be his QB or even Campbell/Grad; that defense needs to be as good as possible because they’ll be on the field more than anyone else on the team.

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by KA1Z3R on Nov 29, 2009 6:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tackling
The problem is tackles 5 to 8 yards away from the line is still killing us.

Get a defensive tackle to stop the run and there won’t be as much of a problem if at all a problem exists after that.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 29, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

true

but there’s no denying poor tackling on the part of the strongside linebackers, though Morrison is a surprisingly sure tackler.

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by KA1Z3R on Nov 29, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear you there

he falls for basic misdirection plays way too easily.

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by KA1Z3R on Nov 29, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't just get one.

Get two DT’s, 1st and 2nd round.

3rd round, get a linebacker who is good against the run.

4th get a mutant tall wide receiver 6’ 5".

Stop the run cold with a young group coming in together.

Then give Russell one or two tall dudes to chuck it to besides the usual suspects who will be around.

by xville on Dec 1, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If it were guaranteed that two good DTs and a MLB were coming soon

half my worries would be over; I could suffer more patiently.

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by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, the DT's that

are in the upcoming draft are some of the best.

I wouldn’t mind losing the rest of the season to get them. The earlier we get, the better the DT. More in the 1st round than so much so in the 2nd. But the earlier the better.

Our linebacker situation needs better coaching, and possibly a dedicated run stopper if we can get one in 3rd or 4th round.

Why not try Desmond Bryant out in the position.

by xville on Dec 3, 2009 8:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Definately start Desmond Bryant and see how he does with Pittsburgh

Tom may be intimidated by Kelly, Warren, or Seymour or at least timid about making changes till there’s a crisis.
Many of the best college DTs still have a year to go – unless they go for it. (e.g. McCoy at Oklahoma and Suh at Nebraska) But Alabama has Cody and his LB teammate McClain … if we could bring that duo here! I’ll take McClain over Spikes – very football savvy, run’s the defensive at Bama.

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by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 3, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What about our O-Line?

I would address that before taking 2 d-linemen.

by Rusty23 on Dec 3, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know.

The O-line needs depth, which we’ve seen this year with all the sacks, and the injuries.

But, our run defense is God awful, and we don’t just need a patch, we need a real presence.

However, there’s a chance the Ciron Black will be available early second round, and if he is, that’s our man.
But if he’s not available I’d go for that DT.

2nd round DT’s: Tyson Alualu, P’ Anthony Smith.

3rd round ILB: Pat Angerer, Darryl Sharpton, Jamaar Chaney

If we get Cody in the first, then I’d use the 2nd round pick for the best offensive lineman still available, and pick up Cam Thomas in a later round as a constant rotation option for the big man.

I’d like us to get one or two of the tallest WR’s available in the 4th or 6th round:
Riley Cooper, Danario Alexander, David Nelson, Carl Moore,

by xville on Dec 3, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think our offensive line needs...

an offensive line! Our d-line needs help but it would be nice if our LB’s maintained their gap responsibilities.

by Rusty23 on Dec 3, 2009 7:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This might be a textbook case of the trickle-down effect

Not to say the LBs are good, but the DEs are worse

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 4, 2009 12:04 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Woe! I meant to say DTs

For the record, I am content with the Oakland Raiders Defensive Ends.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 4, 2009 12:06 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for clarifying!

I agree on our DT’s but I’m not as hard on Seymour as you are. I think he’ better when left at DE. Our LB’s could help by staying in their gaps though (I’m talking to you especially Capt Kirk).

by Rusty23 on Dec 4, 2009 6:31 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I only started keying on Seymour during the Dallas game

so he might have just had a bad day. But it would help any MLB to have someone anchoring that line. I was impressed with Cincinnati’s nose tackle, I think he’s a Samoan w/ orange hair. The idea of switching to a 3-4 defense is interesting and would allow more last moment adjustment and pass rushing. The personnel, however, are not quite there to run it.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 4, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

DEFENSE

“You can score alot of points and you might win, but if you do not allow any, you can’t lose”
Winning begins and ends with the defense, shit defense, shit record hence the last 15 out of 20 years.

by john2260 on Nov 29, 2009 9:49 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

the scheme

of john marshal is a lil different though, he LIKES to use a kind of hybrid defense with a 5-2- 4 stack. scott has been that other man on the line causing pressure and bailling out into zones the last couple of weeks like how JM used hill over in seattle. anyways this defense calls for faster and more agile LB’s to make plays. anyone rememeber lofa tatupu?? if you watch his early games in seattle (which i have being from the rainy side) it was actually pretty effective but like we all know likeing ur scheme and being able to do it are two different things. anyways i think drafting a big man in the middle is prolly the best way to go HOWEVER… if we were to get lets say… a brandon spikes… well i can say this raider fan wouldnt be to upset about it.
the downside to all of this is that thomas howards playing time is being downsized a bit.

by frank7da2tank on Dec 2, 2009 12:20 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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