Darren McFadden Has Yet To Deliver As Advertised
The Raiders took McFadden 4th overall in the 2008 draft. 27 games later, the Raiders are still looking for ways to utilize him. The Raiders paid him $26 million guaranteed to be a cornerstone of their offense. On Thursday, McFadden spent most of his time lined up wide as a receiver against the Dallas Cowboys. He caught four passes for 43 yards and rushed six times for 23 yards.
McFadden has been injury prone throughout his 2 year career and still collapses easy when hit. McFadden has had to deal with four injuries during his brief NFL career — turf-toe on each foot and a shoulder problem in 2008, causing him to miss three games, and torn knee cartilage this season. The shoulder and knee injuries required surgery.
Tom Cable says about McFadden:
"My feeling is Darren brings a lot to the table, I feel like we've got to keep moving forward, trying to figure out what is going to help him be at his best."
Perhaps what he brings to the table is a trade agreement. With Bush, if we can ever get him in the line up, and Fargas running like they have been, it seems McFadden may not be a crucial need for us right now.
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i wanna trade him
before he has no value at all … he will never be an impact palyer at this level unless u put him as our returner and third down back or maybe in the slot more and even if he succeeds at that role he will be grossly over paid so if u can trade him i would go as low as a third rounder
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Darren McFadden
I admit that I was in favor of drafting him when we did, but the pick hasn’t worked out. Injuries have been a problem and there is no denying that he hasn’t been as effective as Michael Bush, and perhaps even Justin Fargas.
I would look into trading him, yeah, but but Walker is right. It’s going to be tough to trade him.
I think we’ve learned our lesson and that is taking running backs high is a high-risk, high-reward kind of a thing. It’s worked out well for Adrian Peterson and Chris Johnson, arguably the two best running backs in the league right now. They were both first-round selections; however, there are good running backs that can be drafted in later rounds. Michael Turner was drafted in the fifth round, Darren Sproles was drafted in the fourth round and our very own Michael Bush was taken in round four. Take a look at the Dallas Cowboys’ running back situation. Marion Barber, Felix Jones and Tashard Choice were taken in the later rounds.
With all of that said, I don’t know what to do with Darren McFadden right now. I think with our ineptitude at the wide receiver spot, I’d continue to line him up out there. He’s clearly best-utilized in space so he can use his speed. Bush and Fargas have shown the ability to run the ball well over the past few weeks with a healthy offensive line.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 29, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions
He's Reggie Bush 2.0
Why not let him return? Or reveres? SCREENS??! Ok then lets just go up the gut with him…………..
Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"
I feel the best way for using a guy like him, is getting him on the field as often as possible
and am kind of pleased to see we’re finally doing that. Was watching the game Thanksgiving with my brother, a Cowboys fan (yeah, it was painful) who was unhappy with how his team didn’t use Felix Jones in a similar fashion enough. As a wideout, specifically, and in multiple back sets, and the wild hog, or frog, or cat. He’s big, and it would seem could create a nice blocking mismatch to clear another back on some plays. You see Ronnie Brown lead block for Ricky Williams and vice versa. I’m sure it has everything to do with why they’re among the leads to rushing attack week after week.
It’s true we missed out on most of Darren’s first season due to the turf toe, and his durability has been in question since. We also can’t seem to get the ball to any of our weapons with much success or consistency anyway, so having him out there is a moot point.
On a team executing better, with a more balanced attack, we would see McFadden have some success; his weaknesses wouldn’t be as glaring. Instead, we see him used the wrong ways, with the box stacked, with him trying to the turn the corner when he should be squaring up and trying to run off tackle up the back of the tackle whether the hole is there or not. His poor balance is amplified and teams see all they have to do is hit him while he’s accelerating and before he turns upfield. If he does, all they have to do is touch his legs-anywhere—and he’s tripped up. If we could actually get him squared up against the secondary when its not locked in on the run, he could run some guys over when he’s downhill. We haven’t successfully gotten him downhill a lot this year, be it from injured line, poor execution, bad calls, or a combination of it all.
I agree, thus far, he is unproven, and could turn out, largely, a disappointment for us. He’s still an exciting player, who can be dangerous given opportunities. It’s not his fault he hasn’t been given a lot of opportunities. If indeed he remains a question mark in the durability department, then getting what we can for him now would be the right decision.
For now I think he remains a dangerous compliment to an offense if they can use him right. It’s too bad we have to question if we can do anything right offensively week to week.
It’s not his fault he hasn’t been given a lot of opportunities.
I’m wondering if that’s not cuz he does fall over right away and is hurt a lot. He missed four games this season because of a knee injury he suffered against the Houston Texans on Oct. 4 that required surgery. Last year 2 turf toes.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Heres an Idea..
Give him 20 carries a game and see what happens.
"Carter's 25-game hitting streak isn't any normal streak. He's 46 for 97 (.474 average) during the run, adding 16 walks and compiling 81 total bases in the process. I'm out of superlatives for what he's doing." - Kevin Goldstein
Carries
While he doesn’t get all that much, his career yards per carry average is below both Bush and Fargas.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 30, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Cause....
He only gets 6 Carries a game. Bush and Fargas will get some where between 10-20..And most of than can be stopped at the line, but they get so many opportunities that they tend to brake on for 20-40 yds. Which helps the avg.
Running Backs
Fargas’ longest run of his career is 21 yards, so he’s not ripping off big gains.
Bush’s longest run this year is for 17 yards. He has carried it 12 times in a game just three times.
Yes, McFadden doesn’t carry the ball maybe as much as he should; however, Bush and Fargas have been more successful. When you’re injured too much and other guys play better, stuff happens.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 30, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
Sorry, I was looking at each of their longest receptions.
Bush’s longest run is 60 yards, with only one other run being of more than 10 yards.
Fargas has actually had a run of 20 yards, 22 yards and 35 yards respectively. I guess those long runs have helped Fargas’ average more so than they have helped Bush, and maybe McFadden would be able to rip long gains if he carried the ball more. Still, McFadden’s injuries have hampered his playing time. Also, Cable loves Fargas. Fargas gets the ball more than Bush as well.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 30, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
Also, Cable loves Fargas. Fargas gets the ball more than Bush as well.
I don’t understand this. I’m a huge Fargas fan, but I think Bush is more durable. Fargas does get hurt alot. But he has heart and he runs like he doesn’t care what’s coming after him. McFadden just doesn’t seem to have the durability to be a decent RB or the ability to stay upright. I’ve seen Fargas move a defensive line a foot or 2 before going down, McFadden just drops. It’s almost like he’s play tag football and when he gets touched he’s done.
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Agreed
I think Bush is our most effective runner, and even a better receiver in the passing game than Fargas. McFadden is our best receiver, but probably behind Bush and Fargas in terms of effectiveness running the ball.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 1, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
Ever since USC, because of the way he runs: very violently
he gets hurt a lot. When I attended a game and got a look at how thick Mike Bush is, you understand how he’s more durable than anybody else we have. I don’t think we use any of these guys to our strengths.
I should clarify, I was referring to the style with which Justin runs
then commented on Bush’s size. He literally looked about twice as wide as the guys standing next to him.
I understood
You think McFadden would be more durable if he put on some more padding but kept it toned?
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he sure does fall down instantly, doesn't he
but I think if you don’t get him squared up with the sidelines, he stands no chance at all. I don’t know what you do about Darren’s durability issues. I’m kinda sympathetic about the turf toe thing; I heard that can be debilitating. Remember Charles Woodson’s bouts?
He reminded me of Dickerson in stature; he’s certainly nowhere close in durability.
Since we can’t really use his explosiveness to the best of our abilities, and don’t really, maybe trading him for whatever we can get while we still can is the best option.
don’t get me wrong. I think used correctly, the guy stretches the field every time he comes out, we just haven’t been able to do that yet.
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don’t really know how to look at this situation because the RAIDERS havn’t had the chance to to see what they have in mc fadden with all the injury problems and lets face it it doesn’t look like we will see what we have in bush or mc fadden until we get a coach with a real game plan and tries to utilize them to thier full abilities….hell put d-mac back on kick offs that sorry bunch that returns now hasn’t done a damn thing to help any way and did you guys see him line up wide use a double move on the db then run past him for what should have been a touchdown but grads threw a short ball and the pass was broken up….give him 25 touches a game whether it be returns ,passes or running the ball and see what he does then evaluate but to do so right now is just unfair because 5-10 touches is just not enough….I blame the RAIDERS coaches and the game planning for his lack of production right now give him the ball more and then if he doesn’t produce treat him just like ja’lazy and consider him a bust and move on.
I'm not one to say I told you so but
I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!
Good thing we didn’t trade away Fargus like everyone on here wanted to do. You can mark this down as Al Davis’s 2nd worse draft pick of all time.
by Black and Silver Express on Dec 2, 2009 5:38 PM PST reply actions
He's further back in that line
I assume you’re referring to the first round? Well, Marc Wilson, 1st Round QB is ahead of him and so is Tod Marinovich another 1st round bust. But, I’m not as critical of McFadden as you, his line is worse than he is so it isn’t quite fair to dismiss him from NFL quality until we see him with something better.
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by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2009 6:37 PM PST up reply actions

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