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As I Look For Hope: I See None: The Oakland Raiders Are Terrible


Tom Cable can say that he is seeing improvement until he is blue in the face, I am NOT buying what he is selling anymore.

He talks about Gradkowski's passes being a foot here or there away from being complations as if that is some great thing. The reality is that his starting quarterback is missing throws at least a foot, when good-great quarterback miss, if at all by inches.

After this last loss he said that the big plays were JUST some players missing their assignments. JUST SOME PLAYERS MISSING THEIR ASSIGNMENTS!?!?! Does Ray Lewis miss assignments? How about Patrick Willis?

I am sick and TIRED of the bar being held so low that a quadrapalegic with hydraulics on his wheelchair could leap it 9 times out of 10!!!

THIS IS THE NFL!!! Either perform or get to the bench!!! PERIOD!!!

Darren McFadden is NOT as bad as his numbers and we all know that Michael Bush is a 1,000 yard back on nearly ANY other team, yet, neither will even sniff their potential in the current Oakland Raider system.

How is it, TOM, that you pass more than you run? Even when you have the lead?

There is NO accountability for Tom Cable's dumb play calls. NONE!!!

Some will argue that teams are stacking the box, or that we need to pass to set up the run. I say, BALLDERDASH!!! What if the Cleveland Browns were scared of an 8 man front so they only gave the ball to Jim Brown 7 times a game!?!?! GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

This franchise is completely broken. The mystique is still there, but the winning has left the building!

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This line coach can't get a decent game out of his own line

His defense, which has good overall personnel, has been negligently left in the hands of a clueless grasshopper – in fact, our middle is an object for mockery and attack. If Cable doesn’t change something this week, Pittsburgh is going to kill us down the middle. Dixon, a rookie, will exploit our vulnerability and the world will see our naked asses if Cable continues his folly.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 30, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

These players

are so great, they’d start elsewhere? Who drafted/signed these guys?

by Rusty23 on Nov 30, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Most likely Davis signed them

Moss isn’t having doing badly.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 30, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude..

This is a total shot of reality. It hurts, but its so true. I believe we have the right personel with Bruce in. He moves the ball, and most importantly,he doesnt turn the ball over. The losses are coming from the play calling.

by Remix. on Nov 30, 2009 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

Tom Cable

Simply put, Cable has to go. He went from offensive line coach to interim head coach and play-caller? Like you’ve already pointed out, he isn’t a good play-caller. I’d rather have Al Davis himself call the plays. Then again, for all we know, he could already be.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 30, 2009 6:20 PM PST reply actions  

Was Davis calling the plays against Cincinnatii and Philadelphia too?

Did you give him credit then? Even if Davis was calling them down that doesn’t excuse Cable whose greatest achievement this season was benching Russell. Something is seriously wrong with Oakland’s preparation and game strategy. Where was the defense in Dallas? Did Al order Cable not to blitz Romo after ordering him to blitz McNabb and Palmer? Was Cable ordered to cause our defensive line to fold and our offensive line to collapse? I laugh at you for deflecting the blame from Cable to Al.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 30, 2009 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Glad I made you laugh your eminence

Al is almost entirely at fault for this team. Is Cable the best coach we could possibly have? No. Davis hired him. Is Cable running the offese that Davis wants to run? Certainly. What was John Marshall’s quote after the Eagle’s game? “I hope I don’t get into too much trouble for that (the blitzing).” By the way, who assembled this group of players? Al Davis. You will get your wish and there will be a new coach next year who will fail just as miserably as Cable, Kiffin, etc. Have you listened to any player that has left the Raiders? Al is in charge of discipline, therefore, when it comes to the players there is no discipline. I laugh at you because you blame Cable for the mess that Al has created.

by Rusty23 on Nov 30, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rusty is right

The Billboard on 880 says it all… Until Al turns over control of our team we are sentenced to years of" more of the same". No coach with any other NFL options will come to Oakland. I fear the only way Al turns over the team is if he’s turning over in his grave.

by rambis64 on Dec 5, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Without the employment of a real GM

Someone with the gravitas of Bill Parcels, there likely won’t be much different with ths Raiders team.

Our options are severely limited: The Raiders will either be retaining Cable with Al stripping him of his play calling duties and giving play calling to Ted Tollner, Paul Hackett, Jim Fassel or to some young-to-be-determined-college wunderkind. Or, Cable will be relieved as head coach and either Tollner, Hackett, Fassell or Kevin Gilbride will be named as head coach. While the latter might bring some moderate improvement over Cable, what real difference will it make when your QB choices will be Russell, Gradkowski, Campbell or Edwards?

Al Davis does not need to be “gone”, but he needs a direct right-hand man and new blood in the scouting dept., especially with regards the the 1st round pick.

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Dec 1, 2009 4:33 AM PST up reply actions  

This ain't 1972

We need FOOTBALL PLAYERS, NOT great athelets, We need a new offensive sysytem and an aggressive defense. We need a coach that will hold EVERYBODY accountable, Cable keeps saying week after week that guys were not lining up properly or the are not communicating, christ on a crutch man these guys are suppose to be professional football players if they do not know by now how to play cut their asses.
I thank the good Lord that he gave me enough brains not to have bought a “SINGLE” ticket in the last 8 years, the product that Davis puts out on the field is horrible and the people who keep paying to see it are not the brightest bulbs in the garden.

by john2260 on Nov 30, 2009 9:20 PM PST reply actions  

Don't put this mess on Cable

I’m not calling him a great head coach by any means, but the man needs players to compete. You can talk all you want about Gradkowski missing passes, but just about every throw he made he was made with a defensive player’s hand on him, over him or in front of him. He was throwing from wierd arm angles on the run, and it was almost impressive that he was able to get the throws off and near the receiver. Peyton Manning could not have done much better than Gradkowski last week.

Gallery seems to have turned out to be a solid guard, but the rest of that offensive line is H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E!!! Not one of them was able to even slow down their man last week.

I don’t even think it is safe to call Russel given that he hasn’t even been surrounded by mediocre talent up to this point in his career.

by markdog333 on Dec 1, 2009 8:36 AM PST reply actions  

One would expect a former lineman and line coach

to at least have a prepared and disciplined o-line and to know its strengths and weaknesses and make adjustments (like keeping a FB around to support the pocket or set it up where Grad can rollout to buy time) to get the most he could out of them. No such adjustments are being made. On Sunday he’s an ox, on Monday he chews cud.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 1, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll put it this way

Any left handed QB wouldn’t survive the half.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 1, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

it's not just the right side of the line though

the center is in the QBs lap within 2 seconds. The pocket does consistantly get collapsed from the right side. It is not like the guys are in the wrong place. They just can’t stop or even slow down their man.

I do think Henderson does a decent job. He covers the inside and forces his man up field. Normally, that would not be a problem, but our QB can’t step up into the pocket.

I guess what I am saying is, the scheme would work of the O-line could block. Coach could make adjustments like keep 2 TE in and keep a FB in for protection. Maybe they could hold on for 3 seconds then, but all of the receivers would be seeing double coverage. And we all see how hard it is for these rookies separate from protection.

by markdog333 on Dec 2, 2009 6:26 AM PST up reply actions  

To Sum it Up

A team needs both a good scheme and talent to be successful. If you look at all of the elite teams in the NFL, there is one common denominator. They are all solid across the O-line. That used to be a Raiders trademark too. The old man seems to have neglected that area since the superbowl.

by markdog333 on Dec 2, 2009 6:31 AM PST up reply actions  

If they go into double coverage we audible run

I like the idea of beefing the line, keep one TE to block along with the FB and send Zack out. Grad will have more time but not enough to look at more than 3 receivers anyway. He can also rollout more. There are many things Cable hasn’t tried yet.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Terrible considering that Michael Oher, Eugene Monroe and Max Unger were available when we picked:

In the first and second round

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 2, 2009 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I was so peaved that I skipped right over spell check!!!

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 1, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

No prep work at all;

Yes the TEAM has won some games, and I don’t believe that’s any thanks to Cable or Al. Does anyone really believe that play calling won the Cincy game, no.
It’s obvious that there is little to no prep work for the next match up and clearly no adjustments made after one or two series of posessions. I don’t think Cable has the mentality (or permission) to deviate from the set plan. At the very least, like S-O-B said, you would think that a former O-Line coach could at least get that part of the game working and he can’t even do that. Sadly, until there is a GM, things won’t change.

by Joesickness on Dec 1, 2009 2:45 PM PST reply actions  

Love for the Silver and Black

Unfortunately for me, I don’t get a chance to watch my favorite ball club every Sunday. I can’t get Direct TV because of a darn tree in my back yard and living on the East Coast, I can only get Nationally televised games. I got to see a half of the game against the Giants and I watched the entire game against the Cowboys.

I love the team and I understand the philosophy that Mr. Davis is trying to implement. The issues are deeper than we as casual fans might know. A head coachs job is to make sure all of the proverbial i’s are dotted and t’s are crossed when it comes to putting a finished product on the field. Coach Cable is not to blame for the current state of affairs. In order for his stamp to be officially on this team, he would have to be on the same page with the GM or Ownership in regards to player drafts, discipline and trades and I am not 100% certain that Coach Cable has been in position yet to implement any strategic changes in regards to any of those areas.

The real blame here comes from a lack of Player Leadership. A lack of Player Ownership in their Professional Career and a lack of Player Aptitude. Having said all that, it’s not the players fault that this team got old quick. It’s not the players fault that several studs left all at the same time and this severely impacted the teams talent and lastly, it’s not the players fault that there has been so much turn-over in the Coaching ranks that it’s hard to keep up with the new philosophies and game plans that have come with each coach and his staff.

Bottom line, the Oakland Raiders need consistency and stability. Until that happens, this team will continue to flounder.

Time to go from losing franchise to the Cable Cruise Line. Everybody get on Board and let’s get this ship righted. Be patient and All Aboard.

by Thunderholic-75 on Dec 1, 2009 3:17 PM PST reply actions  

Pass the Kool-Aid but I ain't drinking it

I’m for moving in the right direction and am not patient by nature. I want Leslie Fraizer to coach the Raiders. Tom can stay in Dallas, which some would call hell, for coaching the Raiders like he did last Thursday.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 1, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

much in agreement that we let the competitive ship sail, about six seasons ago

we’ve since been unable to consistently compete with anyone in this league. Win a game, then back to the NFL scrapheap.

Something needs to be done. Too much is broke to say what needs to be fixed first, but though I wanted to believe Cable could be our guy, I never really did have a lot of faith in him, and I’m with Saint, I’m not buying that we’re that close to being good either.

You either get W’s or you don’t. Watch the Patriots after that loss last night, and what they do with the rest of their season. I’d venture to say if they met the Saints in the Super Bowl, they’ll win, and I could argue they are lacking the personnel to go deep into the playoffs.

Hats off to Payton, Brees, the NO defense for a great game plan and execution yesterday. The biggest difference on that team is the defensive identity. I was pleased with the defensive identity our team was taking on, but it was knocked back down to reality with a horrible showing against a mediocre Cowboys team that did nothing new and still we had no answers.

The sad thing is, there aren’t many takers for our coach position, and we’re in for a lot of the same BS as long as Al is around. One thing is for sure, Cable is not working, and though I’m glad Lane Kiffin is gone, he arguably had the team headed in a better direction, and was looking to be competitive in the bigger picture. No coach ever gets a real shot to leave his impression on this team, and until we can produce a situation where one can, we’ll continue to be a horrible football team.

by brhynno on Dec 1, 2009 5:09 PM PST reply actions  

Did you say..

the “mystique” is there?? LMAO!!! What mystique?? We are the joke of the league! Teams can’t wait to play us bcuz they know it’s an automatic W!! Mystique??? hahahaha.. that’s a good one!

by G_M on Dec 2, 2009 1:40 AM PST reply actions  

The mystique of Raider teams past:

And Al Davis’ place in NFL History. The logo and the colors, all of that.

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 2, 2009 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

The Faiders

     Did anyone think going into the season with Off-the-marcus at QB and no X-factor WR and just a running game that this team had a chance to compete???? Then you must be Darth Not-serious Davis . The past few years have been bonehead drafts, bringing back ART Shell and the poorest scouts in the nfl all equal idiocracy!!! Where the hell is the so called COMMITMENT. HIRE JOHN MADDEN as GM and get Al away from day to day operations until that happens the basement of the nfl is the only place where the faiders will be.

by optimus b on Dec 2, 2009 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

Davis

I have a lot of respect for what Davis has done in the past, but the game has obviously passed him by. Listen to any former player with the stones to tell it like it is and you hear the same thing…Davis is the problem. Remember a few years ago, Davis tried to hir Wisenhut who wound up taking Arizona to the SB later on. Wisenhut declined the Raiders job because he knew (just like all of the other great coaches out there) that the Oakland coach isn’t in charge of the team or the game…the head coach is the scape goat when Al’s plans don’t pan out.

Look, I bleed Silver and Black and it hurts my soul each time they lose, but the losing won’t stop when he fires Cable and installs another “yes-man”. What Oakland needs is REGIME Change and the fans know it. Most of the players are skilled and want to win, but they need a tough leader who won’t tolerate primadona behavior and half-effort. The team (from the top down) needs to relearn the culture of greatness that Raider fans so long for. The last great coah was obviously Gruden and we let him slip away (and incidentally: Gruden is the only NFL head coach to take 2 teams to the superbowl in the same year…The Bucs were able to smoke Oakland because it was Gruden’s own team he was playing against, not Callahans. Gruden was tough, demanding and a perfectionist. He was willing to discipline players. Who knows, if Gruden didn’t have to put up with Davis’ micromanaging, he might still be there and Oakland would likely be the dynasty that New England is/was.

Long story short, you can’t build a great team by trading coaches every one or two years. It takes a couple of years at leat to build a contender. Davis won’t give Cable the time he needs, just like he didn’t for Kiffin and he won’t give the next coach the time or authority needed either…mark my words. Until Davis backs off, Oakland fans will continue to suffer from heartbreak.

by SilverBlack on Dec 2, 2009 7:40 PM PST reply actions  

Permit me to respond by way of analogy

There is a team that loses 3 out of 4 games it plays but manages to win some of the tougher games and loose about half the others by narrow margins. But when you look more closely at this team you find that it isn’t like the other teams, for it is composed of men and women. Yes, on their roster they are playing, by all accounts, the fairer sex. It is a coed team. That is the Raiders, with the men having to play extra hard to make up for the pussys on the field.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 2, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a bad analogy

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 3, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Bill Parcells is the Coach that can help right the ship

Now, I think Cable should be allowed to keep his job for another year.

Having said that, I would love to see Coach Parcells take over the reigns if Coach Cable is not successful next season.

Living in NE, he brought an attitude, a change of culture and the Locker Room Bullies to Foxborough. Trust and Believe, this is sorely needed in Oaktown. You don’t need game changers and play-makers, what is needed are Die-Hard, Rock-Hard, Balls to the Wall for the Coach, Locker Room Bad Assess. Jumbo Elliott, Dave Meggett, Zeke Mowatt and a handful of other ex-Giants accompanied the Coach when he took over the Pats. They were invaluable to his turning around this organization. Simply put, they knew his game-plan, his philosophy and his way of doing things. Now, if Coach Cable is going to succeed, he’s going to need to hand pick a few players, bring them out to dinner, have a “Come to Jesus” talk with them and get them on board with his game-plan and philosophy. Once they are on board, he has to encourage a few closed door, player only meetings to set-up a do as I say mentality. There are too many chiefs and primadonna’s we need Leaders and nothing says leadership like a Bully in the Locker Room. What’s Bill Romanowski’s number again? Does Ronnie Lott still live in the Bay Area? Jumbo, where are you brother, Oakland can use a smash-mouth mauler at the OL meetings. Conrad Dobler may be available, he was in SF, he may want to get back into the game.
Just a thought!

by Thunderholic-75 on Dec 11, 2009 4:29 PM PST reply actions  

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