Oakland Raider Rumors: Jon Gruden To Receive 5% Of The Team And Take Over For Davis
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 16, 2009 9:41 AM PST
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Let me stress the fact that this is ONLY a rumor, but I am writing it, so that we can discuss it.
On the face of things it looks like a great idea. Think about it. Al Davis needs someone to take over the team that he trusts and that he has respect for. You have to believe that Jon won his respect when he wooped the Raiders in the Super Bowl and then watched his team go into a terrible downward spiral without "Chucky".
Al Davis also said, last year, that he was going to bring in a football person who would surprise everyone. Other than one of the Mikes, Lombardi or Shanahan, who would shock recent fans more than the one who got away.
This may be just a pipe dream, but there have been implications from peopel like John Madden, himself, that Gruden would be the person brought in to run things when Al passes the torch.
With Gruden coming into town and partying with Raider fans at Ricky's in San Leandro last Saturday and then this rumor being tossed about, a Raider can dream can't he?
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I would love for this to happen
but it won’t. It is not in Al’s DNA to give up his club. Of course I can hold out hope that all the losing has finally convinced Al to give up some of the reins. I would love to see Gruden’s fire on the sidelines, I get so tired of hearing Cable tell us we are just a little bit away, allowing players to dog it. I would love to hear Gruden’s thoughts on Russell. One thing is Gruden would rid this team of a lot of underachievers, and bring in hungry players. It is interesting that Gruden wore the Raiders jersey which leads me to believe something might be up, or is it just wishful thinking?
by Laoren on Dec 16, 2009 9:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
for the longest time now
I have told family and close friends Jon Gruden was the only one who could right this sinking ship. At the beginning of this year I predicted a dismal year that would be followed up by a major hiring and shake up of the organization with the re-hiring of Chucky himself.
I’ve had plenty of them laugh out loud, not just lol. Called me crazy even.
Now i’m not saying this rumor makes my prediction concrete or anything, but man, it definately keeps the dream alive.
Chucky still has alot of love for this organization and THE NATION has the love for him right back. He is our MADDEN of this generation.
I honestly believe there is a place in Al’s decaying heart for Jon Gruden. I furthermore believe that if there is one person on the face of this earth Mr. Davis would feel comfortable leaving his franchise in the hands of, it would be Chucky.
AND THE RAIDER NATION SAILS AWAY WITH THE LOMBARDI TROPHY AND ALL THE BOOTY!!!!
by iBleedSnB on Dec 16, 2009 10:16 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
If this comes true, I will NOT replace Football with Meditation on 1/4/10
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 16, 2009 10:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was soooo happy when I read that title....
….but it’s highly unlikely. Oh, and by highly unlikely I mean it’s not going to happen.
…then again Al does do some surprising things sometimes…
Cable Bumaye! Raiders Bumaye!
by SBcitizen on Dec 16, 2009 10:50 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
please let this one come true
Big Al needs to make this a reality rather than have it be just a rumor. Bringing back chucky would not only pump life into our dead team but it would show the fans that Al does care about us and putting his team back on top. And then maybe the Raiders can get out of the finacial hole that there and stop getting blacked out. I live and so cal and Raider games used to dominate the airways now the play mostly charger games I know some of you out there feel my pain. It mad me sad to a yahoosports article on the net say’n the Raiders as a franchise are losing money. Not only would hiring chucky back help inprove the team but would but more fans in the stands thus helping the team get back on top both in the league and in the bank. Please Al if not chucky somebody who’s gonna hire quality coaches and not select a bunch of high price busts and then we wouldn’t have to trade away our 1st round pics for 1 year aging players. Please let this happen.
by bigag on Dec 16, 2009 10:52 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nice first comment, bigag.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 16, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
jon gruden
that would be awesome i wont hold my breath but stranger things have happened al davis is truly a master of confusion just when you think you have it figured it bam it has changed lets hope for the best raidernation needs this
by madstorck on Dec 16, 2009 11:54 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Best Idea Since.....
I can’t even remember. Maybe even since the Chucky days.
by Deuce2 on Dec 16, 2009 11:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Passing the Torch
This is such a great rumor at this stage but it would be the next best thing Al Davis has done. It is time to pass the torch. Al Davis has done allot for The Raiders. I am grateful for all that he has done. But now things need to change. If this rumor becomes to pass, will I know that all of the Raidernation would agree. Thank you Al Davis for all the great years and for keeping the commitment to win, again…What about the rumor that the raiders are moving to Los Angeles ??? (JK)
by R8RBobby on Dec 16, 2009 12:08 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
dare to dream
I was watching “Greatest Games” on ESPN last night, and relived the agony of the Snow Bowl versus NE. But it did remind me that once there was a great deal of pride being a Raider fan, and some very nice seasons with Rich Gannon, Timmy Brown, Jerry Rice, Charlie Garner, and of course Jon Gruden. Competitive ball and playoff appearances to show for it. It’s been too long, and although this rumor is nothing more than a tease and pipe dream, I truly wish SOMETHING happens some day. It’s pathetic that the Raiders are a laughing stock in the AFC West now.
by Peter_NYC on Dec 16, 2009 12:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and as for J Russell
someone needs to have the balls to treat this like a bad pick in basketball or baseball, and can him, eat the contract as a loss, and draft Jimmy Clausen for next year. Enough of these stupid corner backs and d backs picks in the first round every goddam year.
by Peter_NYC on Dec 16, 2009 12:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Dream Job???
This would be great but does anyone really think Darth Lord Davis would make this happen and let Chucky run with the ball ???
by optimus b on Dec 16, 2009 12:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A quality GM with personnel authority would be even better than Chucky
Divesting our part owner Al of personnel and coaching meddling is even more important than who our coach is.
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by worldblee on Dec 16, 2009 12:59 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Buh Bye JaMarcus, Helloooooo Chucky!!!
This would be brilliant. That alone means it won’t happen. :(
…all I want for Christmas is this dream to come true! I’m so tired of horrible draft picks, coaches who are an embarrasment and a number one draft pick that thinks that by being selected first, his work is done.
by R8RGRRL on Dec 16, 2009 1:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm a Gruden fan (except for that one day in January 2003)
but I have a hard time believing this could happen. I was under the impression that he was going to spend at least one more year on Monday Night Football and it’s just hard for me to imagine Davis giving up any football authority but we can all dream I guess.
by sirbed on Dec 16, 2009 1:06 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We all know
Gruden was the one that got away… but to honestly believe that AL would admit this mistake and not only bring him back, but give him an interest in the team…?? Besides, I thought he just inked a longer deal with ESPN…no?
by Joesickness on Dec 16, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Please be true
IF THAT IS TRUE- THAT WOULD BE THE BEST THING EVER TO HIT THE RAIDERS.
CHUCKYS BACK!!! HE WAS THE LAST PERSON THAT BROUGHT BACK RAIDER PRIDE.
THAT WOULD BE A DREAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by stepnick on Dec 16, 2009 1:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
boycott
Send Al Davis a message…..Boycott Raiders games until Chucky is back…
by CoolBreeez on Dec 16, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thorugh the "Grapevine" of Raider fans:
It makes complete sense. Lew Wolfe “In Sheep’s Clothing”, did the same thing for the A’s. In a way, Al wouldn’t lose all power, he’d just be sharing some.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 16, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Billy Beane good call
Curious though. If Gruden takes over as GM I assume he would not be coaching.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
by Ovale Fan on Dec 16, 2009 10:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jon Gruden
Great, give him the other 95 percent and I’ll bust a nut or two!
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 16, 2009 2:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
guys
u know and i know al will own the raiders untail he dies and amy tasek will take over for him at that point
okay i have cereal palsy arhrtis and chronic fatiue as well i have a grea life loveing folks some days are better that other days i got a make a wish in 2001 saw my favorive team the broncos was the trip of the lifetime i wish everyone couild gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that ok but i bleed organ and bule
by j-man on Dec 16, 2009 4:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
you're right, JMan, too many pipe dreamers here. I'll believe this one, after it happens
and not a moment sooner. I hold hope that Al will bring in someone to consult, and that there are other folks alive that can be good consultants, but that too, I will believe when I see it.
by brhynno on Dec 17, 2009 8:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
chucky
Gruden is not the anwser. we need some one to show these young guys a thing or two about raider pride not greed. if mike singletary can turn the 49ers around image what howie long or any other true raiders player from the past could do to bring back raider pride
by bigbobhunt on Dec 16, 2009 5:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
art shell
they tried that with art he didnt do so well remember!
by antspad101 on Dec 16, 2009 5:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WOULD GIVE HIM FULL CONTROL TO GRUDEN AND GIVE HIM 50% OF THE TEAM.
EZE
by RAIDERZEKE on Dec 16, 2009 6:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Would Gruden even WANT to come back?
I’d love for this rumor to be true, and I’ll even take a cautious sip of the Kool Aid and go along with the theory that Al is willing to give up more control, even though that doesn’t seem likely. But with that said why would Gruden himself want to come back? Sure he had a great time visiting with old friends at Ricky’s, but he didn’t he leave on pretty rocky terms with Al? And given Al’s overbearing history with coaches why would he trust him to be any different? Even if Al swears he’s changed I don’t see why Gruden would take him up on it when he’s sure to have plenty of opportunities to coach organizations that don’t have the history of bs that we do…
I don’t want to be a dream killer with this post but I just can’t see it. If anyone can convince me that this is actually possible please believe I’ll be binging on Silver & Black Kool Aid til I pass out.
by soulrise on Dec 16, 2009 7:05 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Gruden as coach and partial owner
The first thing, Mr Davis shouldn’t have gotten rid of Chucky in the first place. We were on the winning track to go to the super bowl. I believe that would be a good match for the Raiders, if they cover all of the basics. The Raider Organization need to use caution in giving Chucky the reigns. We need new bleed in the Raider Nation House.
by louisjjamesjr52 on Dec 16, 2009 8:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A younger version of John Maden...................
I heard that Al was looking for a younger version of John Madden who can get the young players attention. This is only a rumor, but it is possible to discuss the likelihood of Al signing Frank Caliendo.
http://www.tbs.com/video/index/?site=frank#/all-video/shows/frank-tv/behind-the-scenes/125651
by R8rnation on Dec 16, 2009 10:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think I just jizzed in my pants... :\
Waddles to room to change boxers.
by GoldenStateGuerrero on Dec 16, 2009 10:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
oakland raider rumors
the one person i always thought al would bring in was Jimmy Johnson. Dont get me wrong, Jon is a hell of a coach. Jimmy seems to be the one super suprise that is hardly thought of…well see, either way it goes it has to be better than what we have had since tom flores.
by kolbslaw on Dec 17, 2009 2:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Al has said on record that
releaseing Art shell was his bigest mistake as GM
by raidergatoraide on Dec 17, 2009 5:02 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Art was never given a proper shot. But it would've taken a long time, probably most of three years
to implement the kind of blocking scheme he was doing. It would have helped to have some autonomy in personnel decisions, too. I believe Art could be successful given the chance, with the right support staff.
It’s hard to imagine him ever coming back as coach at this point though.
by brhynno on Dec 17, 2009 8:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Lord Raider Dead
Is Lord Raider(Al Davis) Dead? Then It’s all just a dream..!
RAIDER Heart, Soul, Body and Mind
by Raiders B. Bad on Dec 17, 2009 9:03 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Can it B true?
I thought Gruden just agreed to do one more year at MNF? As great as this news would be to the long suffering nation, rumors are just rumors, and I will not get excited over a rumor. I will wait until the season ends for Al Davis to give his “State of the Raider Nation” address.
Raidercitizen
by Raidercitizen on Dec 17, 2009 10:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Davis may dick around too long to get Gruden (another 80 yr old issue)
Things happen fast in the NFL. It looks like Bruce Allen was hired on by B. Allen and the only two names being tossed out there as HC choices for him are The Rat and Gruden. Does any really see Shanahan and Allen working together?
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
by Ovale Fan on Dec 17, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good god I fail
supposed to read " It looks like Bruce Allen was hired by the SKINS"
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
by Ovale Fan on Dec 17, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ONE comment....
Gruden, if y’all remember, did not want Porter as a WR when he came in, after he left, Porter exploded. Gruden, when he went to Tampa, took over an already rising and SB quality team with their defense so he can’t take credit there either! What happened AFTER they won, and Gruden had the controls (or more than he did in Oakland) tells the REAL Gruden, so what happened? Anyone? Anyone want to guess? Absolutely the OPPOSITE of what we want HERE, but what is already going on here! Why bring him in? We know he was a one shot pony (sorry but it’s true). Not sure who this surprise person WILL be, but I sure hope it is NOT ‘CHUCKY’!!!
by WalterTH3rd on Dec 17, 2009 3:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
rising and SB quality team with their defense so he can’t take credit there either
I’ll agree with some of that but he built the Raiders team that made the Super Bowl. About the Bucks, most of the players from that Super Bowl team were aging fast. It was not a rising team but a team on the decline. That team needed to be rebuilt and Gruden unfortunately has terrible timing with that job. They crippled the process by giving away draft picks and had massive salary cap restraints that were never cleared until 2007. Of course by terrible I don’t mean Raiders terrible. They did win a Super Bowl and terrible for Gruden 57-55. I’ll take Gruden terrible over Raiders terrible.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
by Ovale Fan on Dec 17, 2009 4:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Scary Thought
I’m a Chargers fan, though.
Bolts from the Blue // "I have got to be the most boring GM in the league." - A.J. Smith
Bloody Elbow // " looks like your comment violated rule #4. and it’s a heck of a rule, rule #4" - Kid Nate
by Richard Wade on Dec 17, 2009 10:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Jon chucky Gruden
Jon Gruden replacing Al Davis would be the smartest decision that Davis ever made in his life.Go chucky
by Radmopar on Dec 18, 2009 1:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
of course it wont happen
Al is a bitch, and all.
by GsWar510riors on Dec 18, 2009 5:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
If Frye isn't overly excited the 1st quater it will be a surprise
expect overhead throws with a lot of steam and maybe an interception. But after that we’ll see how he settles in. In the Jets game when Bruce finally came off the bench, he was wild the first two or three series; then he settled down and started showing what he could do – can we expect a faster adjustment from Charlie?
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 20, 2009 12:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We need that to be tru….Man i hope that tru.
by DK Vader on Dec 23, 2009 6:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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