A good choice for OC
As a raider fan, the diiappointment I've sxperinced the past 7 seasons has led me to belive we need to find quality coaches.
Looking ahead to 2010, I'm hoping management will address one of our glaring needs, teaching high level consistancy on the offensive side of the ball. Tom Cable has shown the ability to get the team to play inspired football at times. but as we all know his role as the OC has failed miserably. I don't believe we need to change head coaches again. we just need better assistants.
So, my wish is to bring in a college coach that has great potential as an NFL OC. One glaring name to consider is the Universisty of Houston Offensive Coordinator and Quarterbacks Dana Holgorsen(2nd yr).
Houston offense finished second nationally in both total offense (562.8 yards per game) and passing yards (401.6 yards per game) and 10th in scoring (40.6 points per game).
Before that he coached at Texas Tech, where he served as the Red Raiders offensive coordinator for three seasons. Overall, he spent eight seasons in Lubbock. Holgorsen's 2007 offense led the nation in passing (470.31 ypg) and ranked second in total offense (529.62 ypg). The Red Raiders also ranked among the NCAA's top-10 in scoring offense (7th/40.92 ppg) and passing efficiency (5th/156.74).
Good teachers produce good students. If Al Davis is going to continue to be President at Oakland, he would do well to hire good teachers.
Link http://www.uhcougars.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/holgorsen_dana00.html
PS. I couldn't past his picture, the media link to paste the url froze my window.
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If he was good with the Red Raiders he might be good with the Raiders..
"The Silver and Black are Back" -Greg Papa 2002 AFC Championship game
I am starting to lean on keeping Cable myself
but he is NOT an OC. Be the MAN and let someone else run the O (maybe even let Bush carry the ball EVERY week)
you all seem to forget
we have a “Passing Coordiantor”. We don’t have an OC. That’s Davis’ doing because he loves the vertical pass game so much.
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SD also loves the vertical game
it is not working so bad for them. Denver likes the short game, didn’t work very well for them yesterday. The successful teams in this league are going vertical, just watch any game that Philly plays, deep, deep and deeper. Brady is always looking to go deep to Moss. Our problem is we don’t go deep enough which is why Russell is watching from the sidelines.
Looking at Dana Holgorsen's bio ...
he has also been the Quarterbacks, and WR’s coach. In 2007, his offence produced big numbers for Qb Graham Harrell. He led the country in total offense (431.85 ypg), while Michael Crabtree led the NCAA in receptions per game (10.31) and receiving yards per game (150.92) on his way to winning the 2007 Biletnikoff Award
It would be real nice to have an OC with a consistant system that aids player development.
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
Dana Holgorsen
I’m not saying he wouldn’t be a good offensive coordinator, but the personnel he had with Texas Tech and Houston is much different. Over at Texas Tech and Houston, all they do is run the spread offense and throw the ball about 65 times a game.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 21, 2009 6:25 PM PST reply actions
Granted thats true
But , I think from a philosophy standpoint getting rid of the football quickly, opens up the box. Teams like Pittsberg are incorperating the spread offence into there playbook to keep Big Ben Upright.
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
Gradkowski and Frye share OC Duties
They plan together. Whichever is on the field QBing the other is OC. Al saves money and gets integrated intelligent offensive play selections from two guys who know the Raider Offense, the players, and how best to use them. Who better than a QB to call the plays? I respect linement but they are soldiers compared to the QB who is field general. Enough! Tom’s role must be curtailed and Grad, whose input was obvious in Denver, must guide the offense. If Frye’s brain is bruised then Losman should be tested immediately after JMR is given the 1st quarter to succeed or fail.
Son-of-Blanda
two words
charlie weis.
he knows how to run and effective offense with new england and notre dame
if anything happens in the off season, i want that guy at OC
wow a college
OC. yea that is working right now with cable calling shots! yes he was also puting up good offensive numbers in college while an oc. does anybody not understand we have a very capable OC on our sideline? he also happens to be our QB coach. yes paul hackett is his name. look at what he has done at THE PROFESSIONAL LEVEL as assistant head coach and OC under shottenheimer in KC, 5 playoff births in his 6 years and positive offensive stats while coordinating the jets under Herm. and making the playoffs with them. he has 2 SB rings, and is one of the best offensive and QB minds in this league, hence the play of grad after his first 3 nfl years, has something to do with hackett just like gannon gave tressman credit for his success, so does grad of hackett. i like what this team has going, and if cable would surrender to hackett the duties of calling plays, i think we would be in the better off!
Proven OC needed
I agree with rodeo, it should be Hackett or at least someone with a proven NFL track record. Playcalling is also an art form that some people have a natural feel for. Madden had the snake, and he was one of the best ever based on his won loss record with the raiders. Hackett has had success as an OC in several stops and has been around the block. Cable has the team playing hard and competeing, but his playcalling leaves something to be desired. Bush needs more touches and so does McFadden. Commit to the run game and establish the teams identity! All of the smashmouth teams say it’s an attitude more than anything else. Make it a battle of who can punch who in the mouth and start playing with an attitude again. With our uncertainty at QB we need to rely on the run game even more. Were .500 since the bye week, so the team is improving, just dedicate the offense to the one area where it has shown flashes of success. In spot duty(103 carries, 519 yds) Bush is the teams leading rusher. That says it all, give him the damn ball!
The vertical passing attack relies on blocking and a running attack
Many teams are loading the box and blitzing, and a Quarterback needs time to find an open reciever. Many Quarterbacks are getting hurt waiting for a reciever to get open. blocking is not sufficient , and our play calling dosent keep teams guessing.
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
We're addressing the OL - this month we signed a Center, a Guard, and a Tackle
as for the play calling, I totally agree. Cable lacks imagination. But, with Grad or Frye under center the get extra time because they move around and buy it.
Son-of-Blanda
just saying
romeo crennel is a great defensive coach and Charley Weiss is a brilliant offensive coach.
They’re very creative, and great coaches(The raiders have a run first team, which is weiss’s specialty).
man, I don't know about weiss - N.D. fired him for cause - disappointing season
nice work with the Patriots as O-coordinator (4 years or so) … but he is tainted with N.E.ness
Crennel had 3 out of 4 losing seasons at Cleveland’s HC.
We must do better.
I understand your bias for anything ‘Patriot’ but these individuals have no future here.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 24, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
i guess your right
i know crennel had no success as HC, but he might be different as just a DC.
Weiss, i still have confidence in.
Just a thought anyways.
A person can be a bad head coach
but a good offense coordinator. Bill Callahan was a great OC here then when he took over for Gruden, he showed he doesn’t have what it takes to be a head coach. Just because Weiss was was New England doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be good any here. He learned under a good head coach there. The title of this post, after all, is “A good choice for OC”.
Really now let it go that patrioutguy’s a NE fan too. It’s getting old.
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You're right, this post has OC, not HC, theme
I’ll continue to bag on the Patriots though (and it has nothing to do with patriotguy or any other individual), just hate the organization and region, that simple.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 25, 2009 12:51 AM PST up reply actions
Their Wikipedia page still shows them as having the NFL consecutive game record
at 18 even though the Colts broke it 4 weeks ago (22); I tried to edit it but it’s protected.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 25, 2009 1:57 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah
I guess you have to have an account. I happen to have one. So I made the edit.
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mikes1981, New England Does Not Hold That Record
This is how you left Wikipedia
“Patriots have also compiled the longest regular season and playoff winning streak in NFL history, an 21-game streak in 2003-2004”
The Indianapolis Colts hold that record at 22
.
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 25, 2009 8:58 AM PST up reply actions
hmmm
some one reverted it. Fags. And I even referenced it so it wasn’t a bogus fact. This is why wikipedia sucks.
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semantics
Here’s the history page where things were changed. Notice they changed the wording.
- (cur) (prev) 08:32, December 25, 2009 Pats1 (talk | contribs) (26,505 bytes) (correction) (undo)
- (cur) (prev) 08:29, December 25, 2009 Pats1 (talk | contribs) (26,505 bytes) (they do not; that was the Patriots’ 21-game REGULAR SEASON winning streak from 2003-04; the Pats’ 18-game regular season AND playoffs streak still stands – the Colts lost in the playoffs last year) (undo)
- (cur) (prev) 07:16, December 25, 2009 Mikesd (talk | contribs) m (26,807 bytes) (Added that the Colts now have the record for winning streak.) (undo)
I guess a NE fan didn’t like my edit so they reworded it to include the playoffs too.
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haha
the editor that reverted my edits is Pats1 so there you go.
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Thank you.
under the circumstances, I hope the Colts surpass them. (But, w/Oakland out I’m wishing Titans success too)
Son-of-Blanda
by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 25, 2009 9:41 AM PST up reply actions
it didn't seem like he was
is our OC and DC’c contracts up this year?
by patriotguy2 on Dec 26, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
this is the first year for our DC
and we don’t have an OC per se.
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