Game Thread: Oakland Raiders Will Try And Unleash Their Own Hell In Pittsburgh:
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 9:45 AM PST
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Oakland Raiders at Pittsburgh Steelers, Dec 6, 2009 10:00 AM PST
These are the games that the Raiders have been winning this season. The games that nobody gives them a chance to win.
Of their three victories, two have been over the Eagles and Bengals, will Pittsburgh be the next team to fall prey to an unexpected game plan?
The Raider's team leader has been vocal all week about they need to mix up their defensive packages and the team now has an untraditional player playing an untraditional position, Trevor Scott is playing John Marshall's "Elephant" position. That is the role that Julian Peterson filed for the Niners and Seahawks.
More upset mojo will reside with Bruce Gradkowski as he returns home, he grew up in Pittsburgh, to play his hometown Steelers.
This Steeler team is wicked against the run and mediocre against the pass, so this would be the game to try and go deep about, I don't know, maybe 20 times!!! I mean, why not? What do we have to lose? Let's unleash our own heel in Pittsburgh and punch them in the mouth more than they punch us, because this team can't take many more round houses without delivering a few of their own.
Go RRRAAAIIDDEERS!!!!! OOOOAAAKKLLLAAANNDDDD!!!!! RRRAAAIDDDEERSS!!!!!
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It’s pretty quiet in here.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:00 AM PST reply actions
fuck
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
Giving up a FG on opening drive?
That’s practically priceless, thanks to Holmes dropping the ball.
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If our offense scores two touchdowns today
It will be a win for us.
More than ten first downs? That would also qualify as a win.
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well done D
lets hope they are not on the field all day
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour
Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'
Stanford Routt
I give him credit for that. He broke that pass up right on the spot.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:06 AM PST reply actions
Ha
Well, he’s made a few nice plays over the past few weeks.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Gary Russell
He took advantage of the Steelers’ poor kick return coverage.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:08 AM PST reply actions
Steelers
They’ve lost three straight games, so you’d think that this would be the game for them to get back on track.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
Third Down
It’s not something I’d label as manageable, but let’s see.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:10 AM PST reply actions
Fourth Down
We all pretty much agree here. We should go for it. Just go for it, Tom.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:11 AM PST reply actions
Nice
I like that execution.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:12 AM PST reply actions
to watch the play by play scroll through? no
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009120607/2009/REG13/raiders@steelers/track
it’s not a live picture.
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Unfortunate McFadden interior run
Once in a great while, he will break through to secondary and run for a big gain, but most of the time, we’re lucky to get 2 yards
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I concur
the the defense line doesn’t look to good for steelers on the run
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Darren McFadden
That second run was much better.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:13 AM PST reply actions
Damn
This rush defense is first-ranked, you guys. You can’t really run it three straight times.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:14 AM PST reply actions
Sebastian Janikowski
Thank you, sir.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:15 AM PST reply actions
And we're tied.
But hey, the Raiders scored on a first drive, no fumbles (was that a fumble or a drop earlier), no interceptions, no penalites.
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Fox
I am getting the Saints-Redskins game over there.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:16 AM PST reply actions
Yes
If the AFC plays at home against an NFC team, it’s on Fox. If the NFC team plays at home against an AFC team, it’s on CBS.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
way to establish the run
on the first drive like they did. gotta thank that pitt special teamsman for making that tackle also
Touchdown
The Redskins have taken a 7-0 lead over the Saints in the first quarter.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:19 AM PST reply actions
Don't forget Miami
was in the lead for a while too when they played the Saints.
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Dolphins
They gave the Saints a real run for their money. Ricky Williams had an amazing game.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Why does Big Ben
after all these years still have a play book cheat sheet on his arm?
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Almost
That went through his hands!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:21 AM PST reply actions
Definitely
We’ll take it at the 36 every single time.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
we had some decent runs
on the first drive, so that should open up a big play action to Chaz or Miller
Johnnie Lee Higgins
You hung onto the ball!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions
Wow
Tyrone Carter made a great tackle.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:24 AM PST reply actions
god forbid the ref have to run for a ball
it’s not like they don’t get in the way on the field
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every good drive will end in a kick
whether it’s for 3pts, a kickoff after a field goal, or a lechler punt. that’s definately one of our keys to a victory today
a punt ends a good drive?
A good drive ends w/ additional numbers on the board.
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Saints
They’re missing four defensive starters.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
It's like it's a matter of time
Before a missed assignment or missed tackles burn us.
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Short
He didn’t get it!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:34 AM PST reply actions
It is a good quarter.
Some mental break down by Fargas. That bums me out cuz he’s my favorite player, but it’s understandable.
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I wonder if they make Big Ben wear his helmet all the time now on the sidelines
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Louis Murphy
Man, that just sums it up. It isn’t his fault, but man, that’s just painful.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:40 AM PST reply actions
I don't know if I would have punted there
w/ our WR’s able to get 3 yards, but I also wouldn’t want to fuck up and give them even better field position.
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Hines Ward
That’s what he does.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:41 AM PST reply actions
Great Pass
That was right on the money to Holmes from Roethlisberger.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:44 AM PST reply actions
I missed that one:
Which market are you watching from
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
"Nobody Beats the Biz"
You know that!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Branch is human:
And Ben is NOT. CJ needed to bump Holmes at the line, and he didn’t.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:44 AM PST reply actions
Nope: Somewhere Al davis is yelling, I told you SOO!!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Zack Miller!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:48 AM PST reply actions
Zach Miller
We obviously need to look his way a lot.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:48 AM PST reply actions
McFadden's Problem:
In a zone blocking scheme you have to wait for the hole and then explode into it. Darren just explodes into the line. That is why Fargas is a better runner in this scheme.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:49 AM PST reply actions
That's a good
deduction, but he needs to take ques from Fargas.
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Yes 15 Yards!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:50 AM PST reply actions
nice
glad Bruce’s alright, but good penalty right there. And a good job avoiding.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
Let's go for 6 HERE!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:50 AM PST reply actions
Drinking Game
Every time they mention JaMarcus Russell, drink!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:50 AM PST reply actions
Blocking
That was a good block by Higgins, even though there was holding at the line.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:51 AM PST reply actions
definately
my fingers are still crossed that he could get with the program cuz that’s alot of money and time wasted
well if we drop him next year
it’ll cost 9.35 mil or 9.45 I forget exactly, but then it’s done.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
it would almost be good
to let him get into the last 2 games to see if he took this seriously and is showing improvement. i would hate to release him and somebody get him for dirt cheap, fix him and have him come back to beat us at some point
well
he’s ruined. we payed him so much and he doesn’t care. he’s not going to care for less money.
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but if it's really your last and only shot
to stay in the NFL for beans with another team…you just never know
I don't want him in
I don’t want him behind center for the Raiders ever.
And he may be the only Raider that leaves the Raiders and still sucks.
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I just know how it goes
when we get rid of somebody and they come back to fuck us over later. but yeah it would be a stretch for him to come back and get us in the end
The refs will call a hold against the Raiders here:
Although they didn’t call squat against the Steelers on Mendenhall’s run
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:51 AM PST reply actions
That was a terrible call
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by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:51 AM PST reply actions
Nate Hughes
Who in the world is that?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:52 AM PST reply actions
See what I'm saying about McFadden?
he didn’t wait for the line again.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:53 AM PST reply actions
Did McFadden look slow getting up
or did he just get the wind knocked out of him?
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Someone needs to get into his earhole! McFadden's that is
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:53 AM PST reply actions
That's the difference though
Bush and Fargas can at least make a hole.
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Justin Griffith was great at getting Bush to wait for the hole:
Mcfadden just doesn’t get it.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:54 AM PST reply actions
Blitz
It’s coming.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:55 AM PST reply actions
Lookout
There’s Higgins again!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:56 AM PST reply actions
I Love Gradkowski!!!
THAT was a timing play!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:56 AM PST reply actions
Tom Cable
Why is McFadden still in the game?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:56 AM PST reply actions
McFadden had a hole to his right and he DOVE into the line:
Is he dumb?
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:56 AM PST reply actions
There went all of the creativity!!?!?!
GO FOR IT CABLE!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:57 AM PST reply actions
Like the call
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:58 AM PST reply actions
Terrible
That wasn’t a good call, Tom.
Gradkowski hit Higgins the last time.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:58 AM PST reply actions
had it worked
we’d be saying something different.
That was Bush
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Nah
I just don’t think a running back pass, when you need eight yards on third down, was the right call when Gradkowski had just hit Higgins on third down.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
He was going for 6
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
At Least they went for it:
Bad pass by Bush
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:58 AM PST reply actions
Amazing
Janikowski kicked in a curveball!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:59 AM PST reply actions
Brett Anderson
Is that you, big guy?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:59 AM PST reply actions
It was a bit more of a K-Hill Bender from the right side:
Or maybe a Bailey Slider
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
I think that SOMEONE up there is rooting for the Raiders today:
I have never seen a ball field goal kick do that…And go IN!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 10:59 AM PST reply actions
HAHAHA!!! Maybe Al was saying his secret prayer chant under his dark robe!?!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
wow what the fuck
Did they like not see the QB back there?
Holding. Good bring that fucker back
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Mike Wallace
He’s one of the reasons for Jevan Snead’s regression at the University of Mississippi.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:06 AM PST reply actions
looks like we're doing good
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!
Lawrence Timmons
That was a fierce hit.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:10 AM PST reply actions
Conservative
Tom kept it on the ground.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:10 AM PST reply actions
like i said earlier
better for us to punt from there than to have a fumble or int on that side of the field. our D is playing good right now.
sad that we need to be that conservative
but it’s an improvement from what we’ve done earlier in the season.
but that punt wasn't real good
and anything could have happened.
I’m all for conservative but sometiems a chance needs to be taken.
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we're still in this game though
if we were already down by a couple of touchdowns like we have been in the past, i totally agree with you. it wasn’t a great kick by lechler though. a turnover back there would be the difference of being down by 4, or all of a sudden be down by 11 or 2 scores
Michael Huff
That was a good breakup on Heath Miller.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:12 AM PST reply actions
Whoops
Someone left Wallace wide open for that one.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:13 AM PST reply actions
Typical
They’ll march it down the field and score a touchdown at this rate.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Differences
We weren’t in prevent mode then and we look like we are now. A three-man rush won’t cut it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
we need to bring on the pressure
in the 2nd half. Even though we didn’t get a sack in the last blitz, we did cause a holding.
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Jay Richardson
How do you line up in the neutral zone?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:17 AM PST reply actions
Hiram Eugene
That’s the way to make a play, dude!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:20 AM PST reply actions
Hey
What’s up, Lynnzgal?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
Steelers
Logan had a great return.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Timeouts
We should never have called our last one. Pittsburgh had a few and the clock would have run out regardless.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:26 AM PST reply actions
Just got back from taking my neighbor's 235 lb dog to the vet
Missed most of the 2nd quarter.
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Poor fellow couldn't walk, so we had to carry him
It was like carrying JaMarcus Russell.
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Like carrying JaMarcus out of the club at 5AM?
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Well, he peed all over
But he didn’t puke. Don’t know how that compares to JR.
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a vet on a Sunday?
wow. I didn’t think they worked on Sundays.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
They have a short life expectancy...It is sad...
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Crap!!! What kind of dawg is that?
And speaking of CRAP, I could NEVER have a 235 pound dog!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
fuck yeah
they’re small horses. My buddy has one. He loves to lean on you when you pet him so you best be sitting down when you’re petting him or you’re gonna fall like McFadden.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
666
We have six points, six first downs and six penalties.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:27 AM PST reply actions
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here...........
Al Davis si the anti christ?
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Maybe
I don’t even know what I was saying. I just realized the number six appeared three times as I am doing the recap as the game goes along.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Ha;f Time Thread Open
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 11:40 AM PST reply actions
2nd Half Thread Open:
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
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