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Oakland Raiders Postgame Recap: Raiders 27, Steelers 24

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Was the third time a charm for Bruce Gradkowski in Pittsburgh?
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The Oakland Raiders and the Pittsburgh Steelers renewed their rivalry from the 1970s today at Heinz Field, with the Steelers (6-5) looking to make a playoff push at the expense of our Raiders (3-8). Pittsburgh had lost three straight coming in, and are trying to overcome injuries to stars Ben Roethlisberger and Troy Polamalu. With Roethlisberger back, let's see if the Raiders could stop the potent Steeler attack on the road in a very, very tough and cold environment. It was sure to be a formidable attack for the men dressed in silver and black.

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Ben Roethlisberger was great in return from injury for Pittsburgh. [via a.espncdn.com]

First Quarter: It started off all bad, with Stefan Logan returning the opening kickoff all the way to the 21 yard line. A win for the defense, however, as the Steelers trotted out Jeff Reed to kick a 33-yard field goal. Stanford Routt made a good play on the ball on a pass intended for Santonio Holmes. A good return by Gary Russell put the offense in nice field position, which was at our own 42 yard line. Faced with a fourth down on the first drive, the Raiders went for it and  converted on a play-action pass to Justin Fargas. On the second fourth down situation, needing just a yard, head coach Tom Cable opted for a 48-yard field goal from Sebastian Janikowski. The game was tied, 3-3. On Pittsburgh's next possession, a big run stop by Tommy Kelly set up a long third down. Chris Johnson let the ball slip through his hands, however, but the Steelers had to punt. Starting at our own 36, a play-action pass from Bruce Gradkowski to Johnnie Lee Higgins was a really nice 19-yard play; however, a loss in the backfield and a delay of game penalty cost us nine of those yards and a down. It led to a punt. A big-time 60-yard run, the longest by the Steelers this season, by Rashard Mendenhall had the Steelers in business. Another big play doomed the Raiders. The defense didn't let up, though, and the Steelers were denied on a quarterback sneak on fourth down just about five yards away from the end zone. A couple of Justin Fargas runs and the quarter had expired.

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A big play by the secondary, specifically Hiram Eugene, was a stop we needed to end the half. [via a.espncdn.com]

Second Quarter: The Raiders began the quarter with an important third down. Beating William Gay, a pass intended for Louis Murphy was just a bit too far. Shane Lechler came out to boot his second punt of the game. Two big plays later, a big pass to Hines Ward set up a beautiful touchdown pass to Santonio Holmes. Nnamdi Asomugha hasn't been involved all day up to this point. Pittsburgh is smart, as they take a 10-3 lead early in the second quarter. A questionable holding call on Mario Henderson negated a pretty nice scamper by Gradkowski and a good block by Higgins on the left side of the field. A short gain by Darren McFadden, who at this point has four carries on seven yards if you take away that  six-yard run, set up a very long third down. Another big play from Gradkowski to Higgins converts the third down. A couple anemic plays set up a third down with eight yards needed. A running back pass fell short as Michael Bush overthrew Chaz Schilens. An amazing curveball kick by Janikowski cut the Pittsburgh lead to 10-6. Some penalties and a few not-so-good plays forced the Steelers to punt. A good punt by Daniel Sepulveda forced the Raiders to start from their own five, but a false start on Luke Lawton push Oakland back even further. Three straight runs brought out the punt team once again. Not one of Lechler's best jobs on the punt, Pittsburgh had really good field position at the own 47 with just over three minutes left in the half. Appearing to be heading for the end zone, the Steelers were stopped. Hines Ward was the target in the end zone, but safety Hiram Eugene made an incredible play in the end zone for his first interception of the season. We headed into the half with the Steelers ahead, 10-6, and the Raiders had as many first downs and points as they did penalties.

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Zach Miller and the offense had to take on the physicality of the Pittsburgh Steelers defense. [via a.espncdn.com]

Third Quarter: The Raiders began the half with the ball and looking to move the ball en route to points. A big play to Chaz Schilens set the Raiders up in Steelers territory; however, there was a 16-yard loss on an awkward-looking play that went wide to the right with McFadden and then back to Gradkowski. Nonetheless, it was completely ineffective with James Harrison blowing it up in the backfield. Robert Gallery was also injured on the play, so that's even worse. With Samson Satele out and only two backups available, you can do the math. This is some Golden State Warriors stuff! An incomplete pass set up an impossible third down that went nowhere, basically. A 55-yard boot that skipped into the end zone gave Pittsburgh its first second half possession. The Steelers opened up with a heavy dose of Rashard Mendenhall. Slowing them down, Oakland forced a Pittsburgh punt and out come the Raiders' offense led by Bruce Gradkowski. Pressure got to Gradkowski on that series with two starting linemen out.  A sack, a quick pass induced by the blitz and a pass knocked down due to the corner blitz forced a three-and-out. Pittsburgh had it once again with five minutes to go approaching in the quarter. Unfortunately, Tyvon Branch was helped off the field due to an injury and the Steelers kept on moving the ball into Oakland territory. A big play on third down, though, by Trevor Scott put the brakes on what looked like a promising drive for Pittsburgh. The third quarter was over with the Steelers still leading by the same halftime score, 10-6.

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Rookie Louis Murphy tip-toes down the sidelines for his first of two scores. [via a.espncdn.com]

Fourth Quarter: A field attempt was no good as the quarter began, and the Raiders had some nice field position. They have really had some good field position all day for the most part. We couldn't complain. Three yards on two carries by Fargas had the Raiders needing seven yards on third down on their first fourth quarter drive. Short on third down, a big fourth down conversion for the second time on the day kept the drive moving relatively deep into Steelers territory. A big third down conversion, just the fourth of the day on 14 tries, set up a shocking 17-yard strike from Gradkowski to Schilens. With 8:21 to play in regulation, Oakland had taken its first lead of the day as it was a 13-10 Raiders advantage; however, the lead would last only 68 seconds. A 31-yard return by Logan -- hurting us again -- gave Roethlisberger and the Steelers good field position. I've said "good field position" a lot today. On the first play of the drive, Roethlisberger's laser throw to Santonio Holmes set up a two-yard touchdown run by Mendenhall. The quick-strike offense worked both ways. On just the third play on the drive, a play-action pass from Gradkowski to Louis Murphy was an amazing 75-yard touchdown. It was Murphy's first grab of the day and it couldn't have come at an opportune time. In less than three minutes, we had witnessed three lead changes. Oakland had taken a 20-17 lead. The Raiders defense struggled to stop the Steelers' offensive attack, however, as they marched all the down to the 11 yard line with just two minutes to play in regulation. The first play back from the two-minute warning, Roethlisberger hooked up with Ward for a touchdown pass to give Pittsburgh a 24-20 lead with 1:56 to go. Oakland had one last drive to try to steal this game from Pittsburgh. A big play to Higgins moved the ball to our 29 yard line. Two straight incomplete passes set up a long third down, and Schilens hurt himself on the play. With already Darrius Heyward-Bey out, it's not something we really needed. Todd Watkins moved the chains on a big third down crossing route. An incomplete pass on the next play stopped the clock with just 53 seconds remaining and the Raiders needing 59 yards. Gradkowski found Schilens at the 40 yard line on another big play from Bruce. A very painful injury occurred on the play, however, as William Gay was accidentally hit on the helmet by the helmet of teammate Ryan Mundy. Resuming play with just one timeout, a jump ball came down into the hands of Louis Murphy. A penalty on the Steelers pushed the Raiders to the 11 a few plays later, and then Louis Murphy struck yet again. His second touchdown grab of the day, an 11-yard variety, put the Raiders ahead, 28-24, and ahead for good and for the win.

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"Mom, I did pretty well this time!" [via cdn1.sbnation.com]

The Report Card: I'll give grades to the pass offense, rush offense, pass defense, rush defense and special teams. Of course, you're welcome to give your own grades in the comments.

  • Pass Offense: A -- Wow, really? Yes, really! Bruce Gradkowski was amazing with a career-high 300 yards and three touchdowns. The receivers were catching passes. Zach Miller was reliable. There's really nothing else to say here. The passing offense was superb.
  • Rush Offense: C- -- Justin Fargas ran it pretty well, but Darren McFadden didn't. Overall, a team average of 3.9 yards just won't cut it. The passing game picked up the slack here, but the rushing game started out solid and allowed for the pass game to grow.
  • Pass Defense: D -- The passing defense couldn't stop Roethlisberger, who was 18-for-24 with 278 yards and led two great drives to keep the Steelers in the game the best that he could. It was pretty poor on our part, particularly with the pass rush.
  • Rush Defense: C+ -- Aside from Rashard Mendenhall's 60-yard run, he was mostly kept in check with just 43 yards on 19 carries excluding that monster run. He was able to escape and get into the end zone, and big runs do count. They have to limit the big play.
  • Special Teams: B -- The kick returns were better, there weren't any punt returns, Sebastian Janikowski nailed every kick and Shane Lechler was pretty good as usual. Overall, it was very solid. Room for improvement, sure, but I am not disappointed at all by the effort from special teams.

My Thoughts and Tidbits: Wow, wow, wow! That was an amazing victory. Scoring a season-high 27 points is nothing to sneeze at, and to do it on the road against a great defense is something to be proud of. Let's keep this good feeling going next week against the Washington Redskins, who are locked in a tight battle with the New Orleans Saints as I type. Bruce Gradkowski has a lot of heart. Louis Murphy is a gamer. Murphy was really instrumental in the fourth quarter, with grabs of 75, 29 and 11 yards respectively that included two scores. He gets my vote for player of the game. That guy just works hard every single game and I love his physical swagger. Other wide receivers stepped up, too, totaling 248 yards on 12 grabs. I think that about sums it up for me. Enjoy the win, you guys. We earned it.

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Weekly Recap Poll: Who was the Oakland Raiders player of the game?
Hiram Eugene: 2 passes defended, 1 INT
3 votes
Bruce Gradkowski: 20-for-33, 308 yards, 3 TD
529 votes
Sebastian Janikowski: 2-for-2 field goals, 3-for-3 XP
3 votes
Louis Murphy: 4 receptions, 128 yards, 2 TD
133 votes
Other
2 votes

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Good recap, RRS

We’re lucky to have your dedicated work.

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by worldblee on Dec 6, 2009 1:29 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks

I appreciate it.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a feeling we'll be missing some guys next week

After the physical game and the headhunting hits by the Steelers.

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by worldblee on Dec 6, 2009 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

Hopefully Gallery was just a spasm

and Higgins is just a bump to the head.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Dec 6, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I deleted the Raiders Need a GM Banner:

Today is about VICTORY!!!

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

Great Recap again RRS

I thought Bruce was player of the game as good as Murphy was, bruce took over in the last quarter and would not let us lose. He really is the leader we have been looking for.

"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell

"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour

Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'

by Ozraider on Dec 6, 2009 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

I gave it to Murphy

Simple because it was the first time all year a WR had really shown up.

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by worldblee on Dec 6, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

i cant agrue with that either

"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell

"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour

Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'

by Ozraider on Dec 6, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too, but I'd say this is the fourth time he's shown up this year

That kid almost makes up for all the bad picks this year. Love me some Louis Murphy, and this group of young kids.

by brhynno on Dec 6, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

This was his 3rd time as a starter in pittsburgh

he wanted this win.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Dec 6, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Bush needs the ball more

But other than that good victory.Bruce was amazing

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Dec 6, 2009 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

Louis Murphy and Team

This kid is shing with a competent QB at the helm. 128 YDS with only 4 receptions. Thats pure awesomeness. That leaping catch near the end nearly made me shit brix. That final drive was a blessing from, and thats coming from an athiest. GO BRUCE, GO LOUIS, GO EVRYONE, GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Remix. on Dec 6, 2009 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

That's right, God. Prayer helps a lot.

There was no way Pittsburgh was going to loose three straight, and we still beat them at their most prepared.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

For the offense to play as well as it did, I do believe this:

Darrius Heywad-Bey being OUT was actually one of the BEST Things that could have happened to us.

by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Dec 6, 2009 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

I know I'm gonna watch Game Day final

One of the best parts of winning is media monday. I’m gonna watch espn all day tomorrow( sportscenter in the morning, first and 10, pti etc). i’m gonna wake up at 5 am to listen to Murph and mack.

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by gametime_gsw on Dec 6, 2009 6:39 PM PST up reply actions  

KNBR

I don’t really like Murph, Mac, Ralph, Tom, Fitz or Brooks. Well, Rod is funny. I love Gary Radnich, though, and Damon Bruce. Everyone else, well, they’re just alright.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

To me it it between

The MVP’s are Louis Murphy or Bruce Gradkowski. To me it is Bruce but Louis was fucking playin like a Pro Bowler.

Wake me up if we win

by nishal26 on Dec 6, 2009 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

Candidates

It’s definitely down to Gradkowski and Murphy. I just like to be consistent, so there’s four options up there as usual with the fifth being the “other” choice. I chose Murphy. He came down with a great jump ball and caught two touchdown passes.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Bruce had ice in his veins

But Murphy was the difference maker, at least three times in that game. Honorable mention to Chaz and Miller for some clutch ones on key downs to move the chains too.

Defense and Eugene were awesome when we needed them too.

by brhynno on Dec 6, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

I totally agree with you there they were both awesome

by Crazy! on Dec 11, 2009 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Great work on da recap

Besides that gator vs bama game yesterday this had to been the second best game I’ve seen all season

by Suleku on Dec 6, 2009 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

Florida-Alabama

That game wasn’t even that great. Alabama totally took that game over. It wasn’t competitive in the fourth quarter.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

True

I didn’t really care who won, though, but the media makes it hard to root for Florida because of their salivating over Tim Tebow.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate gator bandwagon fans sooo yea It was very funny to watch

Tim Tebow isn’t going be all that good anyways…. Gators had it tooo easy this season and looked what happened…

by Suleku on Dec 6, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

College Ball

It only matters in Draft Month…Any other time, I dont really follow. But come the Draft, I know almost evry players name available

by Remix. on Dec 6, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I still got a awful taste in my mouth after our last first rounder

Where was that bust DHB at when Murphy caught that pass lol

by Suleku on Dec 6, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

DHB was out with a foot injury

As opposed to his normal, not ready to play in the NFL problem.

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by worldblee on Dec 6, 2009 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

If DHB doesnt work out

I think Murphy more than makes uop for that pick. Murphy definitely reminded me of a Fitzgerald or a Marshall especially with that catch he had to go up and get.

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by gametime_gsw on Dec 6, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Murphy

For Murphy to make up for Heyward-Bey’s lack of production, he’s going to need to be able to make big-time plays week in and week out. Murphy is going to need to perform at a high level consistently. We’re going to need more games from him in which he gets 80, 90 and 100 yards receiving with a touchdown.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 6:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea

basically give us the production of a first round pick, and be a number one reciever and win us games like he did today.

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by gametime_gsw on Dec 6, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, great recap btw, too. Thanks RRS.

I don’t know how you guys can compile all that stuff as fast as you too, complete with links and the whole nine. We’re fortunate to have the talent on this site that we have. Much appreciated.

by brhynno on Dec 6, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

RAIDER COMMITMENT!

This is what I imagined our season would be like. Except, I thought it would be the QB we started with. We found our QB & WR. LM is a beast. That other guy (I won’t even mention his name) OVERPAID can’t catch. Let’s end the season well Raiders. The Nation will always be committed to this team. Otherwise you’re just a bandwagoner from the days of Marcus Allen!

by DonBui on Dec 6, 2009 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

Bruce had that extta 1/2 second - or he moved around for it - and look at the result!

Imagine, with a revamped 0-line. This guy is another Gannon, no, he is Gradkowski!

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

This is the 2nd time in row

we beat the Steelers after they won a superbowl.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Dec 6, 2009 1:51 PM PST reply actions  

that's right!

awesome victory. I believe you were calling this one too, if I’m not mistaken.

I have to admit I wasn’t as confident.

by brhynno on Dec 6, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that Rated R has earned a promotion to the Front Page:

What do you guys think?

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 1:54 PM PST reply actions  

definately

good hard work displayed on this one

by iBleedSnB on Dec 6, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow

That would be great!

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It's Done; Now GET TO WORK!!! ;)

Just kidding..I’ll send you an e-mail with some tips for formatting and broadcasting your entries on SBN.

Cheers and Welcome

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

I appreciate it.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Looking at our draft picks this year:

Rd 1, Pick 7 (7) Heyward-Bey, Darrius WR
Rd 2, Pick 15 (47) Mitchell, Mike SS
Rd 3, Pick 7 (71) Shaughnessy, Matt DE
Rd 4, Pick 24 (124) Murphy, Louis WR
Rd 4, Pick 26 (126) Norris, Slade DE
Rd 6, Pick 26 (199) Sulak, Stryker DE
Rd 6, Pick 29 (202) Myers, Brandon TE

Murphy has been excellent and I think Myers will be great with playing time. The rest? Haven’t seen anything that excited me. But I love our fourth round pick right now.

@worldblee on Twitter.

by worldblee on Dec 6, 2009 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

Considering who we could have had...No it isn't

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Draft Picks

Murphy has been decent, yeah, but we only needed to take one wide receiver and his name was Michael Crabtree.

I disagree with taking Mitchell, Norris and Sulak.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

What I’m saying is that Murphy was a good pick in the 4th, Myers is nice, and the rest…nothing. Especially that first round pick, obviously.

@worldblee on Twitter.

by worldblee on Dec 6, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm, you may have a point there

I haven’t paid much attention to him.

@worldblee on Twitter.

by worldblee on Dec 6, 2009 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

+1 - Shaughnessy

has been excellent

"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell

"I'll be the guy on top of the Quarterback" - Richard Seymour

Here they come baby, Just win baby, Feel the storm of the cold autum wind baby
Its the Oakland Raiders, Get your mouthpiece
You in the black hole, With the black beast! - Ice Cube 'Raider Nation'

by Ozraider on Dec 6, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Kelly played well too today and Morrison stepped it up

poo poo pants (#92), however, played like he did in Dallas

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Disagree with pass rush grade

Safeties, Branch and Huff were studly all the way and our corners played well too. So the D on pass rush can’t be directed against those four heroes. “D” isn’t justified.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2009 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

Pass Defense

It earned a “D” because Ben Roethlisberger totally killed us and there was a touchdown each for Santonio Holmes and Hines Ward. Plus, he was able to lead two late scoring drives. They even scored quickly. I didn’t grade the pass rush. I graded the overall pass defense.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Then consider breaking it up

Because our Safeties and Corners are Great. The D line needs help with the pass rush. That’s all there is to it. You give Roethlisberger that much time and he’ll connect. Imagine what numbers Bruce would put up if he had as much time to throw?!

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Pass Rush

It’s not all on them. I don’t think our cornerbacks are great other than Asomugha. Our safeties are pretty good, though, I do agree there.

Still, I don’t want to give a separate grade to the pass rush. I prefer to grade each unit and I think that’s good enough. If not, I think we’d be nitpicking too much at the grades.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

This "D" grade assessment for the performance of our Corners and Safeties is unjust.

I realize that LBs go hybrid in passing downs, but DEs and DTs always rush in passing situations [except inexplicably in the Raider’s case when they only send 3 of those 4]. Ben had too much time to throw and that is something the DBs have no control over. They also had to make a disproportionate amount of the tackles because our middle is weak. The grasshopper wasn’t bad (5 tackles) but still moved out of position by any blocker, e.g. 60 yarder up the gut. Meanwhile, expatriot, PoopooPants had 0 tackles and played as poorly as he did in Dallas. So the DBs were super heroes today doing double duty and end up getting a “D” for their efforts. Please consider evaluating DBs separately from the ‘Pass Rush’ in your next Game Grades Rpt.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Defensive Backs

They did not get a “D” for their efforts. The entire pass defense as a whole earned a “D” for getting picked apart by Ben Roethlisberger, especially on their final two drives that resulted in touchdowns.

Also, our secondary isn’t all that. Nnamdi Asomugha is amazing, yeah, but Chris Johnson and Stanford Routt are very average at best. Tyvon Branch is pretty solid and Michael Huff is decent. Let’s not label them superheroes with or without a great pass rush.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup, CJ is a liability capable of the occasional play, and Routt needs to go, yesterday

Other than that, Safeties are developing nicely and I’m happy with the position. Some capable cover corners and nickel backs that can return would be nice.

Gary Russell? What’s up with that?

by brhynno on Dec 6, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Today is what is being graded

If you are a little more liberal with your grading it does not indicate that they are always A or B graders, but that they were today. You underestimated them today, all of them, even the bench, e.g. Eugene Hiram. They should have been given at least a B+ even as a footnote separating them from their inferior teammates.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Today

Yes, I graded on today. Today, Ben Roethlisberger was 18-for-24 with 278 yards and a pair of touchdowns. He led two scoring drives, massively through the air, late in the fourth quarter.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 11:58 PM PST up reply actions  

so does this win allow Cable

to come back as the HC next year or does he still need to finish strong?

by iBleedSnB on Dec 6, 2009 2:15 PM PST reply actions  

It's Week to Week: We still need a GM

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I like how he stuck with the run and then opened it up in the second half

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

that was easily the key to this victory

sticking with the run early. it wore down their D and opened up the play action which was big for us today. the nice drives gave our D a much needed rest down the stretch

by iBleedSnB on Dec 6, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

he should stay

if u look at the past 6 years we havent been doing good, we revamp our coaching staff each year. i think we need to hire a gm to make good draft decisions, and an offensive cordinator, but from watching the game today, the announcers were talking about how tom cable is extremely proud how his guys have been playing, and that the players love him.

by raiderfan4life on Dec 6, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Tom Cable

If we go 6-10, I think his chances of coming back are actually pretty decent.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

So 2 of 4

Nothing’s for sure but we should win 3 of 4. But, the way Cable’s been coaching, he may well go conservative next week, etc. then what will you say? Will you want him as coach?
He did show us more today, though.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

His QB just threw for 330 yards:

His young receivers stepped up…he has to attack next week…HAS TOOO!!!!

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Did he after Philadelphia? or Cincnnati? No

is he a low achiever? Is his comfort zone too low for what we want?

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

7-9

We have Denver, Baltimore and Clevland left. All very winnable games, ecspecially afer this win. I feel bad for those sorry suckers in Clevland. If we win at Denver and they come rolling into town, I dont want to say it, but I can see a blowout.lol.

by Remix. on Dec 6, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Redskins

Don’t forget about them, as Washington is next on the schedule at home.

I think we’re going 6-10.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Mistake

I knew I made one. I kept thinking If I was forgetting a team, darn my laziness to google the schedule. But Washington really shouldnt pose as much of a challenge afer sunday. But you think were only gonna beat Washniton and Clevland. I can see another upset agaisnt Baltimore.

by Remix. on Dec 7, 2009 4:55 AM PST up reply actions  

LOl

I thinkn it’s ok for us as fans to look down the road. i think the whole one game at a time is more for the coaches and the players that have to play the game.

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by gametime_gsw on Dec 6, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Bruce, Sr. choking up

on the Fifth Quarter.

I never considered taking him out. I had a commitment to his heart. - Johnny King

by lynnzgal on Dec 6, 2009 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

I choked up too

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

anybody got a link to that?

I love to watch stuff like that. Was listening to NFL radio talk about the great football bloodline he comes from.

by brhynno on Dec 6, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Penalties

After committing six in the first half, we only committed three in the second half.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 2:29 PM PST reply actions  

And Zero back breakers that wiped away scoring plays

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Turnovers

They’re also costly and we didn’t turn it over.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

It's almost boggling

Beat the best teams in the league, and those horrible losses.

I’m banking on two in a row this time. We need to feed off this one, big time.

by brhynno on Dec 6, 2009 2:33 PM PST reply actions  

No, we need to feed off the Dallas loss

We’ve tried the other method (feeding off victories) …

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

great point

That was a dismal showing too. Good to see where and what made us play so horribly, and not repeat those things.

by brhynno on Dec 6, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Recap

I only got to watch the first half before I had to go get an X-mas tree. When I got home I check the score on three different sites cause I couldn’t believe it. I wish I could have seen that fourth quarter.

Cable Bumaye! Raiders Bumaye!

by SBcitizen on Dec 6, 2009 2:46 PM PST reply actions  

umm...

why did you all even draft mcfadden? best back ive seen ever in college football and he does what with you? 5 or 6 carries for 30-40 yds a game? am i missing something? is he a bust or do the raiders not know how to use their talent? give him the f@#$ing ball!!!!

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Dec 6, 2009 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

Darren McFadden
why did you all even draft mcfadden?

Basically, anyone would have taken McFadden in our position. He had great speed and played against top competition in college football. Some people even rated him as the top prospect of the 2008 class.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

hes basically reggie bush

over hyped but still effective

Rookie: "Why did you bench me?"
Nellie: "You're a rookie"

by dubzfan on Dec 6, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Point

He’s the future Reggie Bush. More effective in the passing game than running

by Remix. on Dec 6, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

holy cow

well maybe you are right, but i watched d-mac on a week to week basis up close and personal and i saw what he could do against top competition, as rated r mentioned and i just have a hard time believing that he is just another reggie bush. he’s an every down back, explosive, fast, and to me…reminds me of eric dickerson but i guess until he puts up the numbers and proves it…..hes nothing more than hype, huh? thats why i said give him the damn ball.

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Dec 6, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

looks like Dickerson in stature and style

Nowhere near Eric, yet, in durability. And Eric played the game consistently as long as almost any back ever. He never missed as many consecutive games as Darren has already. Even in his first year.

Used correctly, he’s a weapon for which defense have few answers.

by brhynno on Dec 6, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

yes...i just want him to succeed

even though i am originally from kansas and a lifelong chiefs fan. lived in fayetteville for the last 3 yrs and saw him play up close, sideline view for 2 yrs. being from little rock he has some questionable running mates and i wish the best for him. besides that….i have an autographed SI and ESPN the mag of him. :P anyway, i hope he lives up to his hype and more importantly…his potential.

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Dec 6, 2009 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

To me: (On D-Mac)

The difference between Darren and Eric, both, as Al Davis would be quick to point out, have been Raiders, is that Eric ran the ’Play", Darren just bolts into the line.

Darren has to learn patience. he has to wait for the play to develop and then run into daylight as opposed to just trying to run into a wall and bounce off of it.

IF Darren reaches that level, he can be special, until then, give me Fargas and Bush.

It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09

by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Dec 6, 2009 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

probably so...

but you can pick out negatives with anyone. if he was getting all the carries and a hundred a game….nobody would say anything. maybe he doesnt get the carries for the reasons you mentioned. you watch him, i dont. all i know is that as a feature back he is special. fargas? lol he is no d-mac…….

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Dec 6, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

true, but Fargas is a violent runner, who is a freak in the weight room

a solid blocker of guys often much bigger than him, and unleashes punishment on tacklers despite being a leaner back and not a big bruiser type like Bush. Also elusive.

Unfortunately his running style gets him hurt almost as often as he hurts defenders. And as of now, Saint is correct on DMac not understanding when to hit the hole, allowing the play to develop, setting up blocking and such at this level, and Fargas is currently better there, and though not ever going to be capable of the big strikes like DMac, he’ll get you five more times when DMac will cost you the play.

Then again, Fargas, like most young backs, struggled at first with this.

by brhynno on Dec 6, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Steelers...

As an avid steeler fan, I have to say that was a terrible game (on the part of the steelers and mainly their defense), but I most certainly have to give credit to the Oakland Raiders, who played their hearts out this week. I only live about 1 hour or so away from Oakland so Im going to be hearing a lot of smack talk from raider nation for weeks to come. The Steelers definitely need to work on their secondary and the raiders need to keep playing that kind of an offense because it sure did work.

by Disparity on Dec 6, 2009 3:56 PM PST reply actions  

Thank you, that's gracious of you

But our secondary is actually quite good. The problem is our pass rush; what you saw today was its third best performance of the season which wasn’t very good.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Secondary

He was talking about Pittsburgh’s, not ours.

The Steelers definitely need to work on their secondary …

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

On that point, even if what he says is true, not even Revis or Nnamdi

could’ve done much to effectively stop our youth today. Some great calls to get guys in the right places at the right times, and execution from our qb. He did it all with very little time too.

Most plays effectively got guys open right away, where Bruce could get a good look at keeping the ball where only our guy could make the best plays on the ball, and for a change, they did!

by brhynno on Dec 6, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. And the gamesmanship of Bruce.

That pump fake and move upfield was cool. And when he used martial arts on the linebacker and brushed him aside! Pride & Poise AL.

Son-of-Blanda

by Sons-of-Blanda on Dec 6, 2009 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Fourth Quarter

Bruce Gradkowski had 188 yards on 10-for-16 passing with a trio of touchdowns in the fourth quarter.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

a near perferct qb rating for the quarter

ok, somebody discovered the qb rating calculator today!

All of a sudden, it’s fun plugging our qb’s numbers in.

Funny how that works, eh?

by brhynno on Dec 6, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Stats

Those numbers are a lot better than saying JaMarcus Russell went 9-for-21 with 101 yards and a pick without a score.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 6, 2009 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely. I'll take those numbers any day.

At first I kinda thought Gradkowski was like Garcia, but after today, it was almost like watching Rich again. I don’t know if he was trying to do it to squeeze balls through passing lanes, or if I just never noticed, but his delivery is totally like Rich’s was, for which he was always criticized, and why he was drafted as a defensive back, and not given the chance to start at qb for years.

That 3/4 sidearm thing. Once again, I could care less how they come out, if they’re complete for touchdowns that often. In the clutch, against a formidable d.

by brhynno on Dec 6, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I do hope

He’ll put a little less air under his passes. That one where he threw it up, and it seemed more like a punt before Murphy hauled it in, was the stuff heart attacks are made of.

by rightnasty on Dec 11, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Either way it was a heart attack

whether it was miss, pick, or TD.

Even though incomplete would have just been a palpitation maybe.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Dec 11, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

A list of 10 great things in the game.

My favorite:

1. Gradkowski jawing off with Steelers cornerback Ike Taylor, who gave him a big shove out of bounds on an 18-yard scramble.

The Steelers hit hard and often. They want to intimidate. Gradkowski let Taylor and the Steel Curtain know it wasn’t happening, not in his hometown.

“I like getting dirty out there,” Gradkowski said. “I like to be considered a football player and not just a quarterback. I get into the game and I just told him ‘Hey, I’m planning all night, 60 minutes.’”

Now, that’s a quarterback. That’s a team leader. If Taylor thought that was mean, he should have heard what Gradkowski told his own left tackle Mario Henderson on the game-winning drive.

“They were showing a play on the score monitor and I was just looking up to see, did I do the right thing or not, and Bruce was like, ‘Stop (expletive) looking at the thing and get your mind right.’” Henderson said. “I looked at him at first like, ‘You talking to me?’ Then I was like, you know what, I like that, man. He demands attention. That’s what you need as a quarterback in the league.”

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Dec 7, 2009 6:30 AM PST reply actions  

for as much as the NFL makes you’d think they could buy better video servers

but none the less;

Try to watch and listen. I’m pretty sure that’s Eisen getting pumped up.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Dec 8, 2009 5:22 AM PST reply actions  

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