2009 Draft Options
by L.A. Raiders on Apr 13, 2009 12:41 PM PDT
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PrintI was looking at a couple of Mock Drafts and one of them had us taking B.J. Raji in the first, the other had us taking Michael Crabtree and in another it had us taking Brian Orakpo. So I was thinking that depending on who we take in the 1st it could be changing the whole way we approach the rest of the draft.
So I have made a couple of Draft Scenarios where we take either Michael Crabtree, Brian Orakpo, or B.J. Raji in the 1st. I didn't put any thoughts on the how I came up with the mock or how the players are, because you guys should know well about these players, and if you don't do some research on them because they are all good football players and can excell in the NFL.
Personally I would more likely go with the Brian Orakpo Mock Draft, but then again it is so hard to choose because all these players are so good.
So anyways tell what you think by leaving me a comment and also tell me who you would take in the first.
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1. Brian Orakpo
2. Jarron Gilbert
3. Mike Thomas
4. Frantz Joseph
7. Otis Wiley
1. Michael Crabtree
2. Patrick Chung
3. Dorell Scott
4. Frantz Joseph
7. Rulon Davis
1. B.J. Raji
2. Brian Robiskie
3. Clint Sintim
4. Emanuel Cook
7. Rulon Davis
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We know from experience
that 50% of the first ten picks will be major disappointments. This happens every year, teams and fans drool over some player who is a super star in college, then he gets drafted and disappears out of the league in 5 years. Because we are Raider fans we dwell on the busts we have drafted, but every team goes through it, and has the same experience.
That is why I don’t go crazy about all this draft talk because that is what it is, talk.
There is no question that one of the players you mentioned will be a star, but two will fail, the question is which one is the star and which two are the busts. I hope the Raiders are able to trade out of #7 but that is not easy. I think if Crabtree is there at #7, the Raiders will trade with Philly or NE go back several picks, probably pick up another #2 or #3 and be very happy. I know I will be happy. The Raiders need at least another two or three picks in this draft to replenish or fill some weak spots. There are always a few undrafted players that make the team, in many cases become very productive players, I know the Raiders have 4 undrafted players on the roster from last year’s draft.
Doubt we trade out....
Philly doesnt want to give us both #1s. So that wont happen. Ne is always the team that trades down, they dont like spending the top dollars. Not many teams like to trade up in the first anymore because of the crazy signing bonuses.
With KC signing Zach Thomas, do you think they still go after curry?
I personally hope crabtree falls to us at #7. I think the chances of that are 50%. Cleveland may grab him.
I doubt we can trade out
because the signing bonuses are so high. I didn’t say Philly would give us both #1’s, my hope was for a 1 and a 3. The only way this happens is if they want Crabtree and he is still there at #7 but recently a lot of rumors have Cleveland taking Crabtree. I personally think every team in the top 10 would like to trade out of it, but no one above wants to spend that money on rookie flops.
so true
oh well, at least we get Orakpo then =D.
V- "I'm not questioning your powers of observation. I'm merely remarking on the paradox of asking a masked man who he is."
I don't think there's a chance Rak makes it to us
I dont think Crabs or Stafford does either. But Raji is there, and we should take him.
Wr has to be addressed at #40 and I hope DHB is there. I like Bardin, but to me the “go to” reciever has to be a guy who can make quick cuts(like Tim Brown or Santonio Holms).
At #71 it looks like Chris Clemons SS and at #126 Jason Williams LB
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
but DHB is another speedster
he has better hands than any other speedster in the draft (other than Maclin) but is not the possession receiver we need.
V- "I'm not questioning your powers of observation. I'm merely remarking on the paradox of asking a masked man who he is."
wouldnt be any good for us...
Why would we want a late first and a late 3rd? I think we were wanting philly’s 2 firsts.
I hope detroit picks stafford and seattle picks sanchez. That will give us many options at #7.
The latest mock on SD Tribune has us taking maclin over crabtree and crabtree not even in the top 16. I think thats a bunch of crock. If we take maclin over crabtree, im going to cry!
haha...theres no way crabtree
gets past us at 7. any mock that doesn’t have crabtree in the top 10 is a waste of ur time bro..haha
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
Yo Bro
Try to get Ramses into the mock if you can. I like your mock, but Ramses seems nice.
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I actually prefer Kelly in the third
if we’re talking about drafting a receiver there. Kelly is a good possession man, we don’t need another speedster with Thomas. Without Curry, we have no possession WR. Watkins impressed in camp and when in the preseason, but we don’t how he’ll perform in a real game. We need a guy who we know can consistently make catches and get the tough catches other than miller.
V- "I'm not questioning your powers of observation. I'm merely remarking on the paradox of asking a masked man who he is."
are you talkin about Arron Kelly
If so I agree he is a good Possession WR current ACC leader in receptions I believe. But similar to DHB he is a victim of poor QB play as a result hes probably a 4-5 rd guy.
yep
I don’t know, that record might make him a late third round guy. He’s definitely worth reaching for if we don’t Ramses in the second.
V- "I'm not questioning your powers of observation. I'm merely remarking on the paradox of asking a masked man who he is."
I Think Ramses Barden
is one of the best receiver that we will see this year and I hope we don’t spoil that by taking Heyward Bey. How does Al Davis feel about us getting Heyward bay does he want to go defense first.
"We want to Win. The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it,even my organization deserves it. You have to Win and Win with a vision of the Super Bowl. That's our passion here"- Mr. Davis
he's said
that the team needs to be built in the draft and through the lines, that means both sides. Since the O-Line is pretty much secure, look for D-Line to be our top priority of the draft.
However, DHB was in here and from what I’m getting from the rumor mills on “Inside the Oakland Raiders” I’m hearing he definitely liked what he saw.
V- "I'm not questioning your powers of observation. I'm merely remarking on the paradox of asking a masked man who he is."
I Believe
Crabtree will be our choice.
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I am afraid your right
If hes there.
Why wouldn’t STL want a WR who do they have now? Avery and ? Didn’t they release Holt!
Still like Raji Though
the safest pick is crabtree..raji may be good but who knows..the dt right next to him is gunna go in the 2nd…and its dumb to invest that much money in dt..there would be close to 100 million invested just in our dt…look how dorsey turned out and he was a sure thing..if crabtrees not there…raji could be a good pick or i would pick smith..good pass protecter great run blocker..need to protect the qb and use your rb’s their our strength
yes...
dt are another postion that are relatively easy to find. All you need to do is get a big body who can eat up space and double teams. Pass rushing (haynesworth) dts are extremely rare.
crabtree or rak would be fine picks. Even raji would be fine. but i would go with oher over smith. The way smith performed at the combine is a little alarming. he is about to make millions of dollars but he cant stay in shape? its basically his job (before he gets drafted and becomes an nfl player) to stay in shape.
DT
You are right to a point. Big run stuffing DT’s will be available later in the draft which could work along side Kelly. Kelly being the DT to bring pressure while the run stuffer clogs the middle like Brace did for Raji.
The problem is at the 7th pick the only DE rated that high is Orakpo and chances are good he won’t be there. Like wise with Crabtree. Raji might not be there either, but he’s more likely than the other 2.
So we will be left with Raji or one of the top rated OT’s or tryinng to trade down. Still think 7 is to high for DHB (especially with the highest rated DT still on the board)
at the end of the day....
a player should drop to us that we need. I would be fine with Crabtree (my pick), Orakpo, OL, even Raji. One of these guys should drop to us. The only way they dont, is if no top 6 team picks a qb. Then, unfortunately i think we get maclin.
My new thought...
I think I will change my Michael Crabtree Mock to:
1. Michael Crabtree
2. Clint Sintim
3. Dorell Scott
4. Emanuel Cook
7. Rulon Davis
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