Oakland Raiders 2009 NFL Draft: Did the Empire "Stryker" Back Or Did Al Get Struck?
As I begin to recap this draft I am looking up and the Colts just drafted Zack Follett out of Cal with the 236th pick of the draft.
I am a bit disappointed that he didn't make the cut, but, the more that I learn about Styker Sulan, out of Mizzou, I can cut ties with Zack.
This entire draft has forced me to cut ties with players that I'd hoped would don the Silver and Black, BUT, each pick is intriguing enough for me to give this draft a chance, before I completely blast it.
I have digested the First Day and am very happy with the choices. In terms of needs assessment and being able to trade down and still get your guy and two more picks in the second round. I like it.
My problem may be with the 2nd Day. All the Raiders had to do was follow us on this board and they would have selected Barden, Kropog, Brinkley and Zack Follett with the 4th and 6th Rounders and that would have made this draft a MUCH better VALUE Draft.
Of course, being the Raiders, they didn't and have chosen the Raider types that previous coaches have tried to talk Al out of.
It is almost like the Raiders use NO outside info, only what they see on tape. This will, eventually, become more of a problem as teams lean on technology to get info from every info source possible while the Raiders are still calling names from Al's Rolodex. I love you Al, but you have to really explain to me how you can justify a bunch of tweeners over players like Brinkley, Robinson and Follett.
This draft /COULD/SHOULD have went like this:
Darrius Heyward-Bey - A rocket to run under JaMarcuss's passes and an incredible burst of energy from the slot and on short passes. I'll have more on him in a bit because I am seeing, much more clearly, why he is the perfect choice for this team.
Mike Mitchell - He may be the next Tatum, and I'll leave it at that for now. That should mean a ton to all of the faithfull.
With the 3rd pick, we were all a bit punch drunk and then knocked out when Michael Johnson almost fell in our laps. But, when the Bengals took him it seemed to throw the Raider's game off because Matt Shaugnessy was a HUGE reach over players like Ramses Barden, if you wanted another receiver, and Chase Coffman, if you wanted a Tight End.
The Steelers traded up with Denver to get my selection, Craig Urbick. Urbick will be one heckuva Right Guard in this League and he would have set us up for years to come.
The Fourth Round just turned weird. Nevermind that we could have probably packaged one of them with our third rounder and picked up Gilbert or Michael Johnson, we still could have selected Lawrence Sidbury and Tony Kropog or Jasper Brinkley. In stead we got another wide receiver that is similar to Bey and JLH and a Special Teams Linebacker, Norris Slade, that was NOT ranked higher than Zach Follett and had about half the career in the same Division.
If not for the Stryker Sulak pick, an actual value pick, the entire draft would have been a reach
Here is what the NFL Draft Board Says About Him:
A three-time All-Big 12 honoree, Sulak has the production and burst upfield to generate interest from every NFL team. He shared freshman of the year honors with tight end Chase Coffman of the Tigers, starting the final seven games of that season for Missouri and finishing with 38 tackles, 6.5 tackles for loss and four sacks. Sulak's production increased as he gained experience, topping out with eye-popping numbers as a senior -- 55 tackles, 15.5 tackles for loss, 10.5 sacks and an NCAA-leading six forced fumbles. With opposing offenses focusing much of their attention upon Missouri's other defenders, Sulak's production was inflated. Without the bulk to remain at defensive end full time in the NFL, he'll have to show he has the athleticism to make the transition to linebacker to avoid the "tweener" label.
Here is a glimpse into how the NFL sees our draft:
I'll start breaking down each player a bit later, but for now, it looks like The Raiders are getting players that play the game the Raider way. They have speed and can get to the Quarterback. Well, except for our 3rd Round pick, Shaugnessy.
Even the Tight End, Brandon Myers, fills a position. He is a blocking tight end. Now, maybe we can release Zack Miller more.
Time will tell, but for now, Did we Strike or get struck?
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I voted a "D"
because Mitchell is the only guy I like. After reading that the Bears might’ve taken him, I don’t care that the Raiders may have reached for him. Even if the Bears weren’t really in the hunt, as others have stated, you take the guy you think is going to help you. I wish that could be said about DHB, but that was just a stupid pick that can’t be justified. If the Raiders didn’t want Crabtree, they should’’ve traded down. Better yet, they should’ve taken someone else, like Raji. I’m tired of seeing other teams just run the ball down our throats game after game.
by guapobob on Apr 26, 2009 5:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It was an “F” and nothing but it. We reached on Heyward-Bey, really reached on Mitchell, thought DeAndre Levy would’ve a better choice than Shaughnessy, don’t like Slade Norris from Oregon State at all and thought that we should’ve taken Jean-Francois over Sulak.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 26, 2009 5:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted D...
I didn’t like none of our picks but I didn’t give our draft an F just for the wait and see factor.
by kawelu on Apr 27, 2009 1:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I give it an B-
You can say DHB would have been there later but we got him, and thats all that counts.
Mitchell was a great choice becase I think the big board is just a tool and not gospel
he plays with size and athletesisim that we need, and he’s hungry.
Shaughnessy I think will be a little better against the tackles than Johnson, but we should have traded up for him(Johnson)
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
by RUKidding on Apr 26, 2009 6:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
F
RUKidding, that is a ridiculous justification. He would have probably still been there in our second round pick, and worst case scenario I guarantee there is a team in 15-30 that would have done some sort of trade so we would have DHB and another pick. Sure Crabtree didn’t really want to play here, but he still can play. If we wanted speed, Maclin is going to be a stud. And he didn’t even go until 20. This is the most infuriating move the Raiders have made since passing up Fitty. That alone gives this draft an F, but the other reaches really fucked this all up.
bring back rickey
by yo on Apr 26, 2009 7:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Crabtree's position on playing for the Raiders was "no comment"
How proffessonal was that! As for DHB Cable said this is the guy we’ve been targeting for some time.
This is who the Raiders felt will give us the best Chance of success. Would you risk waitng another year for a player that you had the chance to get, but the team ahead of you got him? No other reciever had the combination of working in a “pro style offence”, excellent rout running abillities, speed, and character that Darrius has.
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
by RUKidding on Apr 26, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
C
RUKidding I agree with you
I wouldn’t rate our draft higher than a C because instead of getting the reciever with our 4th round pick.
We could have got Jasper Brinkley, who IS a Run Stopping LInebacker
I like the Safety we got Micheal Mitchell
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by Jagjivan on Apr 26, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
uhh
Saying “no comment” isn’t that unprofessional. It’s actually what being professional is. Not showing your opinions on a team one way or another before the draft is what most players should do.
This is nothing against DHB. He is a quality kid and if we took him in the second round I would be glad to have drafted him and I’m happy we have him on the team. But we’re not drafting a track team, and his speed is the only really field relevant skill he had over the other players. Sure, he worked in a pro style offense, but that doesn’t mean shit considering hes a hell of a lot more of a project than Crabtree or Maclin are going to be since he has stone hands. Time will tell, but I would be SHOCKED if DHB had half as many yards as Crabtree does next year. And if we really didn’t want Crabtree, there were so many other quality players we could have taken there. I hate Mel and the draft experts, but theres a reason no one other than Davis would have taken DHB at seven. If we traded to fifteen-twenty there’s a 99% chance either him or Maclin would have been there. Maclin was considered a hell of a lot better than him and he didn’t go until twenty.
bring back rickey
by yo on Apr 27, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maclin was considered better by who?
ESPN and NFL Network?- since when are these guys the draft scouting gods that they pretend to be and everyone follows their opinion.
Crabtree only wouldve said no comment because he would have known the raiders were not going to take him ages ago and he wanted to keep his ego in tact by trying it make it look like he didnt want to come here.
You could tell by the look on his face he was not happy about not being the no.1 reciever and then the Jags who probably need a reciever worse than we do passed as well that has to tell you something.
by Ozraider on Apr 27, 2009 4:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what reciever doesnt have an ego?
crabtrees production was unparalleled considering he’s double and triple teamed. Texas game anyone? Look he’s not a burner, but he catches EVERYTHING and can get open, knows how to get seperation and catch in tight spots. After watching raiders not have a guy u can count on to catch a 3rd down pass since tim brown, i simply dont see how u can pass on Crabtree. I mean in all honesty they could have traded up w/ there second rounder to late first to get DHB too. I guess best way to put it is, raiders made a ridiculous DHB to randy moss comparison, but also to cliff branch. Crabtree at worst strikes me as anquan boldin, and thats worst case scenerio. So i guess, do u prefer 55-60 catches for 900-100 and 6-8 tds. Or 90ish catches for 1100-1200 yards for 10 tds? BTW on the td production thing, about DHB being a burner….. he didnt catch many in the endzone… :-/
Crabtree was clearly upset when he got passed on btw. If u saw him, he was on verge of tears. That bugged me. Clearly the guy loves football and if i remember correctly he said positives about potential of being w/ jamarcus and mcfadden.
by tafkasam on Apr 27, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crabtree was good
but look at the guys we have. We already have similar, hear me similar, not as good as Crabby, but almost the same body type. DHB, who is 6’3 and run a 4.3 on our receiver set? None. Who can get up like DHB? Don’t say Walker cause you know he didn’t prove nothing. I think this pick was very a very educated pick by the Raiders, just like most of the other picks we have.
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by Rayder K on Apr 27, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
by RUKidding on Apr 27, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
couldnt say it better K
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
by Ozraider on Apr 28, 2009 3:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Adam's Post-Draft Thoughts
Looking at scouting reports for our 2009 draft picks shows a common theme among them: High motor, leadership qualities, and hard working. Tom Cable went into this draft with a plan, and probably came away pretty happy with the overall product. There are a lot of “blue collar” players in this group with something to prove. Let’s analyze them by round:
Round 1: Darrius Heyward-Bey – WR – Maryland
Mike Lombardi, Mike Mayock, and others can pat themselves on the back for having this one right, but their analysis may have been incomplete. While they relied solely on the fact DHB was the fastest receiver available, Tom Cable also stressed the fact that DHB came from a pro-style offense, which makes him more NFL ready than Michael Crabtree or Jeremy Maclin. The talking heads are criticizing the “long ball” attitude of the Raiders, but speed kills anyway you use it, so DHB should get plenty of opportunities to use those wheels for some serious YAC on shorter routes as well. I understand he may not be the most popular pick here, but for now I trust Cable and the rest of the scouting department that he’s what the Raiders needed. I do believe Cable when he says DHB makes the guys around him better – he’s going to open spaces in defenses simply because someone is going to have to try and keep up with him, and if they don’t JRuss will absolutely bomb it over their heads for 6. I’m guessing the Raiders were hoping Mark Sanchez fell to them so they could trade down and still get DHB, but once the trade occurred in front of them there wasn’t really any hope of doing that. Risky pick, but what else would you expect from the Raiders?
Round 2: Mike Mitchell – S – Ohio
Coming into this weekend I thought the Raiders had Chip Vaughn as the #1 safety on their board and targeted him in the 3rd round. I also believed that Mike Mitchell was “plan B” in case Vaughn was gone. Turns out I had it backwards. Mitchell shot up draft boards in the 3 weeks leading up to this weekend, showing off his versatility with his ability to cover as well as lay the wood in the box. The talking heads ate some serious crow after panning us only to later find out both the Bears and Cowboys were also targeting Mitchell late in the 2nd round. Mitchell will immediately push for starting time in the Raiders’ secondary, and will likely just be called “safety” rather than SS or FS, simply because he can do both. The Raiders are stockpiling such players with Mitchell, Branch, and Huff (who hopefully can get things turned around this season). Awesome pick as far as I’m concerned.
Round 3: Matt Shaughnessy – DE – Wisconsin
I’ll admit this one may have been a bit more of a “reach” than Mitchell, but an OK pick nonetheless. He’s very athletic, has a high motor, and is a very hard worker. On top of that, he was fairly productive despite dealing with injuries during his college career. In his Day 2 Q&A Coach Cable described him as a mid-point between Trevor Scott and Jay Richardson. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that if he doesn’t fall flat on his face in training camp he’ll be the Raiders’ base RDE. You’ll remember the Raiders drafted Richardson in the 5th round in ’07 to be a base LDE who could be stout against the run and provide some pass rush. While the Raiders run defense has struggled in general, Richardson has held up his part of the bargain. The Raiders may now have their base RDE to pair with Richardson in Shaughnessy to try to help out the run defense while not sacrificing too much on the pass rush.
Round 4: Louis Murphy – WR – Florida
Cue the “Happy Trails” PTI segment for Todd Watkins and Jonathan Holland. Part of Tom Cable’s draft plan was to upgrade the receiving corp of the Raiders. According to him, adding DHB and Louis Murphy did so “dramatically”. Cable defies his own logic on DHB to take a receiver out of a spread offense, then justifies it by saying Murphy was always an outside receiver for the Gators, making the transition easier. Murphy graded higher than a 4th round pick for a lot of people, so a value pick here, even if it did mean passing on guys like Lawrence Sidbury and Jasper Brinkley (tear). Look for a WR corp. of Walker, DHB, JLH, Schilens, Murphy and Shields for the 2009 Raiders.
Round 4: Slade Norris – OLB – Oregon State
Another blue collar, hard working, non-stop motor pick from Tom Cable and Al Davis. Norris was a walk on at Oregon State and started his career as a safety. He bulked up and became a LB, before finally moving to a pass rushing DE for the Beavers’ defense. Cable has already stated that Norris will compete for the SAM linebacker position, and certainly has the speed and tenacity required for the job. His pass rushing abilities greatly exceed those of Ricky Brown, so John Marshall may have some tricks up his sleeve for Norris. Picking outside linebackers rather than inside linebackers means our idea of pushing Morrison to this spot isn’t happening.
Round 5: Pick Traded to Atlanta (Who Trades it to Dallas)
The Cowboys selected Cincinnati CB DeAngelo Smith with our 5th round pick. I only mention this because Jasper Brinkley was still on the board (another tear).
Round 6: Stryker Sulak – LB/DE – Missouri
Another non-stop motor pick by the Raiders. Sulak played all 3 LB positions and as a pass rushing DE for Iowa’s defense, racking up 22.5 sacks and 38 TFL in 53 games. Cable said he was going to try him out at LB first, but he may end up being Trevor Scott v. 2.0 for the Raiders, providing a nickel specialist to tandem with the larger base DEs.
Round 6: Brandon Myers – TE – Iowa
The Raiders actually traded up to get Myers in the 6th round, and Cable said it was because they rated him as the 2nd best blocking TE in the draft. Cable said Myers will take some of the pressure off Miller to be an inline blocker, allowing him to be a bigger offensive weapon. Hard to argue with that kind of logic. I like the fact the Raiders went out and got a guy who can contribute to a specific role rather than taking a flyer on a guy with big talent but with flaws. Myers will know exactly what his purpose is and should be able to fulfill it.
The Good
- Upgrading the WR corp: Even if it wasn’t inline with the talking heads’ idea of how to do it, the Raiders made significant upgrades to their receiver corp. The Raiders’ track record makes it hard to do, but based on the last two drafts the stigma of “bad drafters” is starting to come off.
- Upgrading S position: Mike Mitchell will be a starter for the Raiders in 2009.
- Shoring up the DE spots: The Raiders added both a base DE and probably another nickel rushing DE.
The Bad
- Not shoring up DT: Cable said he thinks we have good tackles, but they’ve been on the field an awful lot the past few years due to offensive ineptitude, leading to fatigue and ineffectiveness. The Raiders did nothing to bolster this position.
- Standing pat on OL: This is Cable’s realm, so I give him a lot of deference here. If he thinks he’s rounded out the OL roster by adding Barnes, Pears, and Johnson then so be it.
Overall, it certainly doesn’t look like the draft as most of us saw it coming out, but those identified positions of need have still been filled for the most part. Coach Cable implemented his “identify need positions – get players best suited to fill need” draft plan and is very happy with the result (like he’s say anything else). Now we just need to hope these rookies can come in and contribute to help the Raiders win in 2009.
Most Likely Draft: I don't even know anymore.
by LiveAdam on Apr 26, 2009 8:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW
What did we get from the Panthers in the trade?
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by Jagjivan on Apr 26, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Myers Pick
We traded up with the Panthers in the 6th round to take Myers. We gave up our 7th round pick (they took Captain Munnerlyn) and our 2010 6th round pick.
Most Likely Draft: I don't even know anymore.
by LiveAdam on Apr 26, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice Post
I believe we should’ve traded down nd get a 2nd round pick to get Heyward and we culd have got Ron Brace
I wanted Evander “Ziggy” Hood to come to the Raiders but the Steelers got him
I don’t know how well he’ll do there because they have a 3-4 and he will be a 2nd string DT
Steelers also drafted another DT late in the draft
Can this possibly be foreshadowing a trade of Hampton?
Nnamdi Asomugha for '09 Pro Bowl!!!!!!
by Jagjivan on Apr 26, 2009 8:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Would Have Been Nice
It certainly would have been nice to trade down and take DHB and more picks, but two QB’s taken in the Top 5 teams knew the players they wanted were falling to them. If a team really wanted Crabtree they would have traded up, but didn’t. With no real option to trade down the Raiders took the guy they wanted. Hood will play 5 technique DE for the Steelers, not NT like Hampton.
Most Likely Draft: I don't even know anymore.
by LiveAdam on Apr 26, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Mean Look
I heard teams were liking Heyward-bey and were coming up to get him. I think it is fine that we got the player we really wanted, or the Raiders did. I am very excited about the pick .
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by Rayder K on Apr 26, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I voted
D, GENEROUSLY. Taking in some big assumptions that cable, davis and scouts are right on players they drafted. That haywardd-bey is the best reciever, mitchell was a top Safety and not a 6th rounder as kiper put him and so on and on. The raiders still picked these guys WAAY too early. I understand if u value hayward-bey over crabtree….i don’t but i’m not a scout of coach. But it was clear u could drop to minimum 20 and get him.
Now they took a ‘reach’ and the kid is going to have to live w/ MASSIVE and unfair critism as if he is at fault for being picked too early. Raiders fans are going to boo him if he doesnt live up to hype, and all we have to do is look across the bay. If crabtree is better initially, itll be 3 times as bad as if he was better anywhere else because its 10 miles away.
Not only did the raiders do DHB a disservice but they did themselves not getting extra picks + player they covetted. Thats what a team like the patriots or steelers would do. I only hope he’s mentally strong enough and motivated enough to overcome. For me fact he just startedp laying football is a double edged sword on the positive, he has massive upside…. on the negative, how much does he really love football… he almost had to be pushed into trying out.
by tafkasam on Apr 27, 2009 9:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Even assuming DHB and Mitchell are as good as we hope ...
This draft was still an embarrassment. We cold have taken a starter on the OL or DL and still had DHB in the second, and MItchell in the 4th or 5th.
Watching Al draft is like watching a new tourist try to barter in a Bangkok market— everyone but him knows he’s about to buy something for 3X its value, and everyone is clamoring to get to him.
Honestly? The same could be said of you, Saint. Props for the optimism, but our team is a poor team under poor management with no long term strategy that will be financially pinned under the contracts of the past 2 seasons two to three years. You really think cable is going to get us to the SB? We’ll be rebuilding and just as terrible to watch in 2012.
Hopefully at that point you’ll stop trumping up the bright side of an abysmal situation so raider nation can put some pressure on the team to get some proper management, and a GM. Until then you are just making things worse by talking up this mess.
by WTFalready on Apr 27, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
According to you guy's, we should have Mel Kiper as our GM
the board is a tool and not gospell. there are no garantees… The other WR’s and SS’s on the board were not rated higher.
At the end of the day, they are on our team not someone else’s
Also teams didn’t try and move up to get Crabtree at #7
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
by RUKidding on Apr 27, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We would have any GM
There are guarantees. If you consistently draft high value players, you will have solid returns on average. If you consistently reach, you will have poor returns on average.
The raiders consistently reach. We arguably have the lowest performing draft class over the last 5 years of any team, and not arguably in the bottom 5. We are the only team in history to draft a kicker in the first round. Our free agents acquisitions are appalling.
Back when Allen was our GM there was a balance between Davis’s perpensity to fall in love and reach for players and a more pragmatic approach — the result was, at times, pretty successful. We built a team around one of the deepest o-lines in the game, a good but not spectacular receiving core, and an accurate QB.
Davis alone is appalling. Our offense is built to strike deep and hard, but modern NFL defenses rarely allow a play to develop that long against a good O-line (ours is average at best). On Defense we have great play form the secondary (at least one side of it), but that does little if you cant put pressure on the QB. In other words, Davis the GM builds us a pretty boy defense and a pretty boy offense that gets handled in the trenches. Result: Piss-poor football.
So no, RUKidding, I dont want Mel Kipper as a GM. I want any qualified GM. And frankly, I’m waiting for Raider Nation to stop cheering for the Owner and start cheering for the team. Every year he makes bad decisions, and every year he gets such a ball of support from RN that he’s still playing GM come next year. Even Detroit had the common sense to put pressure on Millen after all those dismal seasons, and now they’ve got a chance to turn things around.
US? RN keeps kissing Al’s arse regardless of how bad the team gets, and we’ve got a poor draft and Tom Cable for our rewards. By the sound of the people on this board, we’ll have it next year too.
by WTFalready on Apr 27, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and if Kuiper is such a draft genius
Why is he not getting paid BIG $$$ by a team?
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
by Ozraider on Apr 28, 2009 3:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll give you Al Davis is too old to be running the team
we all know that. But I belive AL wants to win so badly he has given Tom Cable the leverage to create the team with his fundementals in place(players, coaches, playbook,ect..). This is why I’m excited again. Everybody wants to put doubt in our organization(especially the media),and they did not expect us to turn things around last year. We will have to earn our respect in this league again, and with Cables fundementals I think we will.
Al will pass on one of these days but lets not forget AL Davis created the legend of the Oakland Raiders.
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
by RUKidding on Apr 27, 2009 7:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WHEN WILL THE RAIDER'S BE RELEASED FROM PURGATORY?
I started follwing the Raiders and Mr. Davis at the age of 12, in 1967. 42 years of ups and downs,mostly “ups” until the last 7 years. I’ve NEVER seen anything this disorganized in my experience with the Raiders. Forget Crabtree, the niners like the T.O. types and just drafted one (without the skills Owen’s possesed) . Macklin was the man in my opinion ,and when you compare watching the 3 on game clips, he appears to be a cut above Crabtree and D.H.B. . For you youngsters out there, back in the “good old days” Mr. Davis routinely made awesome “surprise” draft picks or free agency deals. Awesome F.A. deals: Alzado,Hendricks,Sistrunk (suppposedly discovered in a bar in east Oakland. College"university of Mars"). Draft steals:Old enough to remember the Bo Jackson deal? The last steal in my opinion was 2 years ago (Michael Bush). I bleed Black. I hate Chiefs fans, Bronco fans, Charger fans and Steeler fans in that order. Mr. Davis, let your people go! We’ve served our time in purgatory and are ready for manna, as we are sick of bologna!
by Wyoraider on Apr 30, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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