Oakland Raiders 2009 NFL Draft: Live Adam's Draft Break Down
Looking at scouting reports for the Oakland Raiders 2009 draft picks shows a common theme among them: High motor, leadership qualities, and hard working. Tom Cable went into this draft with a plan, and probably came away pretty happy with the overall product. There are a lot of “blue collar” players in this group with something to prove. Let’s analyze them by round:
Round 1: Darrius Heyward-Bey – WR – Maryland
Mike Lombardi, Mike Mayock, and others can pat themselves on the back for having this one right, but their analysis may have been incomplete. While they relied solely on the fact DHB was the fastest receiver available, Tom Cable also stressed the fact that DHB came from a pro-style offense, which makes him more NFL ready than Michael Crabtree or Jeremy Maclin. The talking heads are criticizing the “long ball” attitude of the Raiders, but speed kills anyway you use it, so DHB should get plenty of opportunities to use those wheels for some serious YAC on shorter routes as well. I understand he may not be the most popular pick here, but for now I trust Cable and the rest of the scouting department that he’s what the Raiders needed. I do believe Cable when he says DHB makes the guys around him better – he’s going to open spaces in defenses simply because someone is going to have to try and keep up with him, and if they don’t JRuss will absolutely bomb it over their heads for 6. I’m guessing the Raiders were hoping Mark Sanchez fell to them so they could trade down and still get DHB, but once the trade occurred in front of them there wasn’t really any hope of doing that. Risky pick, but what else would you expect from the Raiders?
Round 2: Mike Mitchell – S – Ohio
Coming into this weekend I thought the Raiders had Chip Vaughn as the #1 safety on their board and targeted him in the 3rd round. I also believed that Mike Mitchell was “plan B” in case Vaughn was gone. Turns out I had it backwards. Mitchell shot up draft boards in the 3 weeks leading up to this weekend, showing off his versatility with his ability to cover as well as lay the wood in the box. The talking heads ate some serious crow after panning us only to later find out both the Bears and Cowboys were also targeting Mitchell late in the 2nd round. Mitchell will immediately push for starting time in the Raiders’ secondary, and will likely just be called “safety” rather than SS or FS, simply because he can do both. The Raiders are stockpiling such players with Mitchell, Branch, and Huff (who hopefully can get things turned around this season). Awesome pick as far as I’m concerned.
Round 3: Matt Shaughnessy – DE – Wisconsin
I’ll admit this one may have been a bit more of a “reach” than Mitchell, but an OK pick nonetheless. He’s very athletic, has a high motor, and is a very hard worker. On top of that, he was fairly productive despite dealing with injuries during his college career. In his Day 2 Q&A Coach Cable described him as a mid-point between Trevor Scott and Jay Richardson. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that if he doesn’t fall flat on his face in training camp he’ll be the Raiders’ base RDE. You’ll remember the Raiders drafted Richardson in the 5th round in ’07 to be a base LDE who could be stout against the run and provide some pass rush. While the Raiders run defense has struggled in general, Richardson has held up his part of the bargain. The Raiders may now have their base RDE to pair with Richardson in Shaughnessy to try to help out the run defense while not sacrificing too much on the pass rush.
Round 4: Louis Murphy – WR – Florida
Cue the “Happy Trails” PTI segment for Todd Watkins and Jonathan Holland. Part of Tom Cable’s draft plan was to upgrade the receiving corp of the Raiders. According to him, adding DHB and Louis Murphy did so “dramatically”. Cable defies his own logic on DHB to take a receiver out of a spread offense, then justifies it by saying Murphy was always an outside receiver for the Gators, making the transition easier. Murphy graded higher than a 4th round pick for a lot of people, so a value pick here, even if it did mean passing on guys like Lawrence Sidbury and Jasper Brinkley (tear). Look for a WR corp. of Walker, DHB, JLH, Schilens, Murphy and Shields for the 2009 Raiders.
Round 4: Slade Norris – OLB – Oregon State
Another blue collar, hard working, non-stop motor pick from Tom Cable and Al Davis. Norris was a walk on at Oregon State and started his career as a safety. He bulked up and became a LB, before finally moving to a pass rushing DE for the Beavers’ defense. Cable has already stated that Norris will compete for the SAM linebacker position, and certainly has the speed and tenacity required for the job. His pass rushing abilities greatly exceed those of Ricky Brown, so John Marshall may have some tricks up his sleeve for Norris. Picking outside linebackers rather than inside linebackers means our idea of pushing Morrison to this spot isn’t happening.
Round 5: Pick Traded to Atlanta (Who Trades it to Dallas)
The Cowboys selected Cincinnati CB DeAngelo Smith with our 5th round pick. I only mention this because Jasper Brinkley was still on the board (another tear).
Round 6: Stryker Sulak – LB/DE – Missouri
Another non-stop motor pick by the Raiders. Sulak played all 3 LB positions and as a pass rushing DE for Iowa’s defense, racking up 22.5 sacks and 38 TFL in 53 games. Cable said he was going to try him out at LB first, but he may end up being Trevor Scott v. 2.0 for the Raiders, providing a nickel specialist to tandem with the larger base DEs.
Round 6: Brandon Myers – TE – Iowa
The Raiders actually traded up to get Myers in the 6th round, and Cable said it was because they rated him as the 2nd best blocking TE in the draft. Cable said Myers will take some of the pressure off Miller to be an inline blocker, allowing him to be a bigger offensive weapon. Hard to argue with that kind of logic. I like the fact the Raiders went out and got a guy who can contribute to a specific role rather than taking a flyer on a guy with big talent but with flaws. Myers will know exactly what his purpose is and should be able to fulfill it.
The Good
- Upgrading the WR corp: Even if it wasn’t inline with the talking heads’ idea of how to do it, the Raiders made significant upgrades to their receiver corp. The Raiders’ track record makes it hard to do, but based on the last two drafts the stigma of “bad drafters” is starting to come off.
- Upgrading S position: Mike Mitchell will be a starter for the Raiders in 2009.
- Shoring up the DE spots: The Raiders added both a base DE and probably another nickel rushing DE.
The Bad
- Not shoring up DT: Cable said he thinks we have good tackles, but they’ve been on the field an awful lot the past few years due to offensive ineptitude, leading to fatigue and ineffectiveness. The Raiders did nothing to bolster this position.
- Standing pat on OL: This is Cable’s realm, so I give him a lot of deference here. If he thinks he’s rounded out the OL roster by adding Barnes, Pears, and Johnson then so be it.
Overall, it certainly doesn’t look like the draft as most of us saw it coming out, but those identified positions of need have still been filled for the most part. Coach Cable implemented his “identify need positions – get players best suited to fill need” draft plan and is very happy with the result (like he’s say anything else). Now we just need to hope these rookies can come in and contribute to help the Raiders win in 2009.
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very optimistic
this is a best case scenario. i dont think shaughnessy is good enough to be a base DE. he seems a tad undersized for that, and doesnt have much pass-rush capability, or nearly as much as burgess or scott.
i do believe that slade norris will be the starting OLB as the primary passrusher off the edge. i am just worried that our DE’s other than richardson are too undersized to be effective against the run, as with all 3 of our potential starting linebackers (yup, morrison too. he’s always eaten up by blockers)
by raiderrocker18 on Apr 26, 2009 11:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully One of Our UDFAs will step up:
Or maybe we will find a nice vet on the free agent block.
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
This is good analysis, but its almost all the positives and none of the glaring negatives. Which might be just what us Raider fans need right now to hold off the steadily growing urge to never watch football again until Al Davis is dead.
bring back rickey
by yo on Apr 27, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great Post Rec'd
I like that most of our picks were leaders and winners in college. A good foundation to build from. I’ll admit it. After hearing the logic behind each pick for the Raiders by Coach Cable, I was so impressed. They really took the drafting to the next level. I think these players will pan out.
Round
1 Heyward-Bey will be the starter or 2nd starter for the team. No doubt about it.
2 Mitchell will be the SS of the Raiders. His coverage will give us an advantage and upgrade over Gibril Wilson last year. Give this guys time. OMG, he remind me of my favorite player ever, Sean Taylor. RIP. Is this the reincarnation?
3 Matt Shaughnessy Motor and work ethic. Good pick. He will be playing a lot of downs for this team. Look for him to come in when Burgess or Richardson get tired. I don’t know how good the pass rushing is though.
4 Louis Murphy – A great person and player. A great upgrade for our core. Not really needed. I wish we would’ve done something else, but o well.
6 – Sulak I like this pick. Very aggressive guy. I mean, crazy crack head aggressive. Great motor and intensity. Love the pick.
6 – Brandon Myers – A great blocker. Vital for Zach Miller.
UDFA – We just got Frantz Joseph. I remember we all mocked him to be our 4th round pick if we got lucky. Well guys, we didn’t even spend a pick on him. We are so lucky. We have our MLB. Also, great character.
I give our draft B.
Police Fucking Hate Me, Trying To Relocate Me To LA, But Like The Raiders, I' ma Bring It Back To The Bay! - Nump
by Rayder K on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
at best
I havent heard this all weekend but is safe to compare DHB to another Raider Wideout???
Ashley Lelie ran 4.3 40 6′3″ 200 lbs.
college stats
in 24 games he had 158 recs. 2823 yds. and 30 td’s
DHB ran 4.3 is 6′2″ 203 lbs
138 recs 2,089 yards and 13 td’s
idk.. what do you guys think?
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Apr 27, 2009 12:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
and NO
lelie didnt play in spread… he played in a 2 tightend system! i dont get it with this spead and prostyle BS… great receivers can transition from college to the pros… stop all this spread BS or Bum qb or 2x or 3x coverage on DHB…
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Apr 27, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice try, but Lelie was drafted WR/KR just like Mackilin
DHB went to the combine just like all the best WR’s in the country, to compete in various drills so scouts could assess strengths and weakness. Most of us know the fact that Darrius " BLEW UP THE COMBINE"…Our scouts learned a few things about him,he has a really good character and plays unselfishly. He’s a smart kid who believe’s in himself as does everyone else that know’s him.
His size and speed are remarkable for a guy this size, and he has really good upper body strength needed for blocking and getting jamed on the line. Bottom line is Tom and Al really like this kid, and they believe in him too.
Buy the way, how did you get Lelie’s 40 time? I know it didn’t come from his combine time becase he didn’t go to the scouting combine. He was home nursing a foot injury.
Sound like anybody we know?
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
by RUKidding on Apr 27, 2009 4:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ashley Lelie and DHB are not comparable in many ways
The reason’s Ashley Lelie & DHB are not comparable. True they did have the same 40 time comming out of college. However Ashley Lelie only weighed 190lbs. in college, DHB weighs 215lbs. Ashley Lelie ran short routes in a spread offense @ UH. DHB was a deep threat in a NFL style run in a orientated offense. DHB job was to block well and go deep off of playaction. Lelie almost never had to block in the spread offense. DHB force teams to double team him because he was a threat to score everytime he got the ball, eventhough he didn’t get the ball often. The Raiders believe that DHB has even more speed than his 40 time indicates because he dosen’t loose a lot of speed when he wears his pads and helmit, and like McFaden, Coach Cable said that DHB has a second gear were he accelerates after 30 yards. Ashley Lelie never quit lived to his potential, and Lelie has gotten beaten up over 7years in the NFL and lost some speed.
by cfrylopez on Apr 27, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I grade the draft a C-A-B-L-E.
The thing I was struck by the most was all these guys he is adding are effort guys!
Guys that don’t quit isn’t that the signs we saw last year.
This is what Tom Cable is! Coaches mold their teams in their own image it’s plainly obvious when you follow the
types of guys they took..
Did we get faster? Yup
Did we get more physical? Yup
The odds of getting a good player in the draft was 256-1 on each pick. So did everybody draft perfect? Nope!
I’m feeling positive about the draft. I don’t care if they didn’t like the picks. The talking heads said it was a really bad draft class so maybe we did the right things by looking at guys they missed. The Raiders in the old days were getting
players from smaller schools. We have drafted name after name I just feel they drafted players for once!
Overall I’m excited there was no question of character and work ethic guys that seem to just love football.
They don’t even know how lucky they are if this team heads in the right direction they will be gods! Like the lore of the olden days. It’s the 50th anniversary of the AFL how friken sweet would it be if the Raiders gave them a scare!
by samiam2112 on Apr 27, 2009 12:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
GO PAIDERS!
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
by RUKidding on Apr 27, 2009 4:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
by Ozraider on Apr 27, 2009 5:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a waste of 2 minutes of my life ....
…I read this draft review and thought it was written by Cable himself (of course with Al Davis’ blessing).
First off, Mayock, Lombardi and others guessed right not because they thought it was a good pick, they knew Al would do something this stupid and pass on the true talent (Crabtree) and go with the track star. It only made sense because it was the Raiders…..not because it was good or smart.
Our whole draft has been a bust for all intents and purposes except maybe Murphy who has the skills and talent to make it in his league. Mitchell has athleticism and can hit but doesn’t have good football sense
Grade = D- ..it would be an F but Murphy was a bright spot
There was only one fairly good pick of th
by ghostmech on Apr 27, 2009 6:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You sound like
Cris Carter. I think you are listening to outside sources too much bro.
Police Fucking Hate Me, Trying To Relocate Me To LA, But Like The Raiders, I' ma Bring It Back To The Bay! - Nump
by Rayder K on Apr 27, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh
Well sometimes these “outside sources” have a point. If you only accept information that comes from Al Davis you’re not exactly getting a great viewpoint on things. Considering that pretty much every person other than Al Davis and us delusional Raider fan’s trying to talk ourselves into believing in yet another 2-16 season thinks that this is a ridiculous draft pick, there’s only two scenarios that are really possible: Al Davis is suddenly a visionary at drafting and makes incredible choices no one else would make because he is so god damn smart, or Al Davis can’t draft or run a football team to save his vampiric life and has made yet another terrible terrible draft choice. I’m sure DHB will be solid, but there are reasons that no one had him going before 20 other than the people who guessed correctly that Al Davis will draft a fast player who can’t catch over a slightly slower player who is incredible at WR in every other way. Al has consistantly made horrible first round picks over the past 10+ years, and if DHB turns out better than Crabtree it still won’t change that fact. Think of how good this team’s offense would have been if he had just made the picks the “talking heads” liked two times and we had Cutler throwing to Fitty.
bring back rickey
by yo on Apr 28, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
true talent?
i know Crabtree was the top reciever, but he also benefited from playing in a wide open spread offense in the Big 12 were defenses aren’t very good.
one thing i don’t understand is, how was Crabtree so highly reguardred when the QB(Graham Harrell) that passed him the ball and threw for well over 4000 yardsmaybe even close to 5000 yards, didnt even get drafted.
by gametime_gsw on Apr 27, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point!
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
by RUKidding on Apr 27, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW
A person/Raider fan with actual sense!
by techtom4 on Apr 27, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(talking to Ghostmech)
A person/Raider fan with actual sense!
by techtom4 on Apr 27, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again the rest of the league just doesn't get it
Ah yes Raider faithful, I can tell you this…..when opposing teams see how big and strong are quarterback is and when he does his pre game warm up throws 80 yards down field they will think twice about trying to sack him. When they see the straight line speed of my stable of young stallion receivers they will quake in their cleats. I’ve amassed the finest collection of specimens ever to soap up in the shower, it’s all about aesthetics i tell you. The Brooklyn Leatherhelmets were about to trade up to get my coveted safety with stiff hips and no instincts, but I outsmarted them once again. This is why I’m the king of the AFL. Why i think this Heyward-Bey fellow will actually be able to catch up to JaMarcuses overthrown bombs, won’t that be a sight to see? If only I can get the PR people to shave some time off the combine results we print in the stadium programs we will sell out all the luxury boxes for sure! Forget all the experts claiming you need to draft players who fit into a system, I’m the one who has fielded the most consistent team in the last 6 years, why would i worry about something as mundane as a run defense, you can’t clock tackling ability or gap responsibility with a stopwatch, don’t they know that? You can’t coach speed or physique and if you have those you don’t need a brain or instincts because your opponent will be so impressed they will forfeit. Smithers, bring me my glass of blood and warm up the hyperbaric chamber, the sun is coming up.
by jaysus on Apr 27, 2009 8:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
IMO
Crabtree is gonna have to deal with Singletary… did anyone see this clown on sportsnetcentral? he likes to "dress his team" or whatever that means… he also said he mastered his position at TT in the BIG 12???? WTF. if he was a raider, i would defend him but hes not so… this cat is just filled w/ himself.
DHB isnt what I wanted for christmas but I dont own,play, or direct the team… even though I questioned my renewal, im gonna have to support him regardless if i want this team to win.
id challenge everyone here to start supporting him as well, even though he’s not the one we wanted…
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Apr 27, 2009 10:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm a suporter
i like DHB i heard his interview today on “Murph and Mack”, and i really like the kid now, he said he’s a reserved person but did sound very confident(not cocky or aragant).
by gametime_gsw on Apr 27, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little piece of me died on Saturday...
I agree with ghostmech. Draft D-. We reached on all of our picks.
I think we are still trying to sign "Usain Bolt ".
The only thing good about DHB is his speed. Cable said that he comes from an nfl style offense and is nfl ready. so what he is saying is that DHB will only catch about 40 balls a year and 0 catches a few games???? DHB reminds me of alvin harper and lelie. We should have just picked a punter or kicker again!
Im not so upset with mitchel, but again he is a reach…. at least not nearly as bad as DHB. At least I can kind of see him being good for us.
Going back to Cable (really AD), he said our WR are now better???? DHB has the worst hands of any of our wr on our roster now. What a waste of the #7 pick in the draft.
by gl12ox05 on Apr 27, 2009 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not just a Red Raider's opinion
but no one is saying DHB is a terribly guy/WR. All everyone is saying that with guys like Crabtree, Maclin and Harvey on the board how do you pass on those guys when DHB will be there later? Certainly, you can trade up should he not be there when your next turn to pick rolls around or a deal like the Rivers/Manning deal can be worked out with SOMEONE. The point of the draft is to get VALUE for your pick and Al Davis didnt get that.
Wreck 'em, Tech!
by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 27, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the analysis
A lot of emphasis was put on player mentality plus raw skills. No show offs, no malcontents, no physical problems, no stats. Just positive attitudes and raw ability. Cable is acting like he made the picks, and that’s nice. I think we all know Bey was Davis pick. I like Mitchell, and I like Bey the more I’ve learned about him. I heard somewhere he was skills set of Randy Moss, and he idolizes Jerry Rice’s work ethic. We’ll see.
by oc_raider on Apr 27, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice analysis
and next year at this time we will see how it all worked out. I agree with most that this seemed to be a Cable draft, good character guys who want to be here, and ridding the team of guys who don’t want to be here. It fascinates me that “experts” on and off this site are now giving grades to the draft. One team had a great draft, another team had a terrible draft, based on what? No player has played a single down in the NFL and they are being judged. Never mind that every year a guy who nobody liked became a star and some guy who was rated the “best in 10 years” flops. Ask yourself the question, would you like for the Raiders to trade Michael Bush for Reggie Bush? Surely you would, right? Reggie was all world coming into the draft, and Michael was passed over by 32 teams 4 times before Michael was drafted.
I remember when Bill Walsh drafted Jerry Rice, the cackling and the howls were universal, some skinny kid from some small Mississippi college drafted in the first round? In his first year he dropped numerous passes, bad hands they said, a major mistake they said, well, we know the final result, the greatest end ever. Don’t be too hasty with your judgments on a draft, good or bad.
by Laoren on Apr 27, 2009 11:27 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I'm not on wait and see
Al Davis doesnt deserve any credibility, I rather listen to other people like Mayock and Kiper Jr.
There’s a reason we have picked in the top 10 of the draft for 6 years
Clear its radiance shine...
by ATarHeel on Apr 27, 2009 12:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Al davis is old
and yes it is “HIS TEAM” but he has realized he has to take a step back and let the coach do his job.
I am proud of the job Tom Cable has done. His direct approach and “Show me what you got” attitude has given oppretunities to some younger players, and they have responed well. His dealings with the media have been proffesional and he answers all questions. This offseason has made me excited about our team.
Al Davis is a hall of fame coach and owner, He dosent have to prove himself to anybody.
What have the other two done?
“JACK SHIT” Thats what!
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
by RUKidding on Apr 27, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ashley Lelie and DHB are not comparable in many ways
The reason’s Ashley Lelie & DHB are not comparable. True they did have the same @ the 40 time comming out of college. However Ashley Lelie only weighed 190lbs. in college, DHB weighs 215lbs. Ashley Lelie ran short routes in a spread offense @ UH. DHB was a deep threat in a NFL style run in a orientated offense. DHB job was to block well and go deep off of playaction. Lelie almost never had to block in the spread offense. DHB force teams to double team him because he was a threat to score everytime he got the ball, eventhough he didn’t get the ball often. The Raiders believe that DHB has even more speed than his 40 time indicates because he dosen’t loose a lot of speed when he wears his pads and helmit, and like McFaden, Coach Cable said that DHB has a second gear were he accelerates after 30 yards. Ashley Lelie never quit lived to his potential, and Lelie has gotten beaten up over 7years in the NFL and lost some speed.
by cfrylopez on Apr 27, 2009 12:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Middle Road
I’m going to hope that Al and co. know something that the rest of the league doesn’t, though really, you just never know with draft picks. It doesn’t matter how much you scout them, there have been entirely too many busts on top rated players throughout the history of the draft.
On the other hand, shouldn’t the emphasis been on the defensive line, linebackers as towards stopping the run. A new safety is nice, but wouldn’t we rather that the ball carrier doesn’t get into the secondary? The Raiders took some defensive picks, but might not somebody like Orakpo have been best. Maybe some picks on the offensive line as well, in case the players they got through trades don’t work out. They know they have to protect JaMarcus better.
by rightnasty on Apr 27, 2009 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Optimism
I love your optimism to death but I think you’d also be able to justify the Raiders’ rationale if they were to draft Kimbo Slice to play DT.
by ATLDuck on Apr 27, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
so yea... Al reached...
yea we’re all mad we didn’t snag Michael Crabtree, Eugene Monroe, Brian Orakpo, or BJ Raji… all great value picks… in the first round…
Second round I wanted any of: Phil Loadholt, William Beatty, Everette Brown, or even moving up three spots ahead of the Bengals for Rey Maualuga wasn’t a hard tradeup… I will say I love the film I saw of Mike Mitchell, but we could have had him in the third round… the Bears even said they were taking him in maybe the third or fourth
Michael Johnson we SHOULD have traded up for as soon as Gilbert came off the board and we didn’t have a value backup plan…
the Murphy pick was at least a decent value… even though there were still offensive linemen on the board that were value run blockers… like Kropog and Meredith…
I actually liked the two 6th round picks… sucks we missed out on Bear Pascoe though :P
overall…. great 6th round picks Cable…. otherwise you completely botched the draft congrats
by NaiderRation on Apr 27, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i like bey
but we could have swapped picks for a late 1st rounder an give sum1 our 1st an this way we get a 2nd round pick and bey. pay him less money this way an less expectations
by nateoak10 on Apr 27, 2009 7:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
words can't express
i just wish i had a bottle of scotch and a nine millimeter so i can hunt down al davis cause i am a very short tempered person like many of you i hope cause to bleed silver and black comes some rough edges and this draft makes me nervous cause i might be in prison the next time we get to the super bowl but enough with the anger i just want to say i wish we didn’t have puppet coaches the last 5 years with kiffin being a real man and standing up to davis so i hope for the best every year and no suprise we got a mentally ill owner thinking speed wins championships it does but it better be on the defensive side which i feel we did not address at all we got de/lb’s instead of addressing the real issue our defensive line who ain’t no spring chicken these guys are older and maybe on there last leg so i end it with saying i give the draft a F-.
sd raider fan
by sd raider fan on Apr 27, 2009 8:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As a Chargers fan, I'd like to thank Al and the Raiders for another brilliant draft!!
We’ll now be sure to be kicking your butt for the next few years as you’re weighed down by high-priced, underperforming draft picks. Al never fails to provide massive amounts of entertainment when he calls a presser, but also never fails to entertain during the draft process. Everyone raise a glass to the Raiders, they give us a reason to watch the draft and also give us a nice springboard to the AFC West chapionship (with their old coach to boot)!! Long live Al!!!!!!
by Bacon on Apr 27, 2009 8:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We Appreciate it
We do enjoy your toast Bacon and i raise a glass with you my friend. I just hope you don’t choke on that drink as do the chargers when it comes to the many seasons as of late. So much talent yet all we have seen from you guys in the many superbowls are afc west championship shirts and a participation award for being in a superbowl. So let us raise a glass bacon to the past and future of our teams. May the raiders hopefully do something well in this year and for the chargers… well to not be a waste of talent. Cheers.
by KingSnB on Apr 27, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring it on Bolt head!
LaDamien should have retired! Maybe we’ll just bury him on our 50 yard line and do you guy’s a favor
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
by RUKidding on Apr 28, 2009 3:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
when was the last superbowl you guys went to again???
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
by Ozraider on Apr 28, 2009 3:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your Draft Was Terrible:
I’d be more worried about your collapse in 2009 than our rise. I can’t wait for Mitchell to POP Rivers in the mouth.
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Apr 28, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Merriman is more into being on the sports show in LA, roid boy is done after this year in SD, LT will be gone, your time is now. Id rather be a Raider fan, we have potential for years of success, and your team is about to be passed by , again. Also, check the all time record, we own that too.
by oc_raider on Apr 28, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I've got to say is SALARY CAP, BABY!!! You guys are going to be crippled for years to
come with what where once over-paid high drafted rookies to now underachieving vets!! Unless the NFL institutes a rookie salary cap, you guys are phucked for years to come!!! Rock on AL!!!!!
by Bacon on Apr 28, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks For Pointing That Out
Good luck paying a bust Chromartie. One year wonder. how much is he supposed to make? O ya, and stupid move to franchise Sproiles. Dumb fucks. Worry about your own shit.
Police Fucking Hate Me, Trying To Relocate Me To LA, But Like The Raiders, I' ma Bring It Back To The Bay! - Nump
by Rayder K on Apr 28, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Salary Cap? It Won't Even Exist in 2010:
Damn Bacon, your lack of knowledge is quite disappointing.
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by saint on Apr 28, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love your previous post
starting it off with “as a chargers fan”.. so you could get the laughs rolling right off the bat, lol.
by oc_raider on Apr 28, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DHB said in his interview with murph and mac that he wants to wear #12… rich gannon anyone?
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Apr 28, 2009 1:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would leave that up to Rich
He’s probably going to say yes, thats the kind of guy he is……A class act.
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
by RUKidding on Apr 28, 2009 3:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh its good to be able to start thinking about what jersey im gonna buy this year
those AFL jerseys are a certain must have and a DHB number 12 will be a nice looking jersey
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
by Ozraider on Apr 28, 2009 3:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
jersey #
dhb was 8 in college so he should wear 88. I really hate it when NFL recievers wear QB numbers like jlh. Mitchell should wear 32 of course like good o’l jack. I dont really care what the other guys wear.
The General of all that is Sports
by stonewall jackson on Apr 28, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i dont mind the low numbers for wideouts it looks cool
but if they are allowing that then they might aswell let rb’s and wr;s wear 1-9 also and then where does it end?
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
by Ozraider on Apr 29, 2009 3:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, that 8 looked cool on him
"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "
by RUKidding on May 6, 2009 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
stupid chargers fans.....
didn’t the dolts draft the “6th” best rated linebacker in the first rd? way to go Norv…haha. us Raider fans are laughing at you morons, if you can’t win the big one with Marty, u will NEVER win it with Norv at the helm. Keep living in your RINGLESS deluscional excistance. By the way The Raiders lead the all time series 54-42-2, and thats still after 6 yrs of sucking. Raider Nation!
The General of all that is Sports
by stonewall jackson on Apr 28, 2009 5:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ryan
Leaf ? Biggest draft bust of all time . lmao
by oc_raider on Apr 28, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha yeah you could say ryan leaf was a bit of a reach at second overall hahahahaha
its funny that the chargers fans get on here and bag us for a bad draft :)
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
by Ozraider on Apr 29, 2009 3:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially
When they choke in the playoff every year despite all that talent.
by rightnasty on May 4, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice post
That was a crazy draft, huh? But not trading down for DHB, which we easily could have done, was stupid. I really hope he and Mike Mitchel produce this year!
by r8er.4.life on Apr 29, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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