Oakland Raider News: Heyward-Bey Has A Better Shot at Being Great than Michael Crabtree:

by saint on Apr 30, 2009 2:20 PM PDT Comment 55 comments

When I was preparing for the draft I started evaluation Michael Crabtree and compared him to the best receivers in the previous drafts that were taken in the top 10 that were studs.

They were all 6 foot 3 and above and they all ran fast:

Calvin Johnson - 6 foot 5, 4.33 40

Braylon Edwards - 6 foot 3 4.48 40

Roy Williams - 6 foot 2 1/2 4.42 40

Larry Fitzgerald - 6 foot 3 4.53 40

The first reports on Michael Crabtree were that he was 6 foot 3, yet, nobody knew how fast he was.

The only published time that I could find is 4.53 and that was on a site that also listed him at 6 foot 1 3/4.

I also found out, along with the rest of the NFL, at the combine, that he is only 6 foot 1 1/4.

This is some very interesting info when you are measuring a player who is coming out of a spread offense with a busted wheel. He may be slower than he was AND nobody even knows how fast he was. I just know that he always seemed to take the angle on DBs instead of going past them. If you add that to the fact that he is a relatively short target for a #1 receiver in today's NFL, then it becomes more apparent why DHB was the selection.

Darrius is an inch taller than Crabtree and two inches taller than Maclin and can blow by either of them, although Maclin will be close all that Crabtree will feel is a breeze as DHB runs by him.

From a measurables perspective it is easy to see whay DHB was favored over Maclin and by a measurable and health factor quite simple to see why DHB was chosen over Crabtree. I don't even want to get into attitudes and personalities, but I am sure you will all agree that the Crabman has a few question marks surrounding his apparent "Never ran a route but I'm preparing my bust for the HOF" mentality.

The ONLY knock that people have on DHB is his lack of production at Maryland and his lack of hands. Those would be HUGE IF, Maryland ran a spread offense and had a QB who was told to pass first and ask questions last AND if they had any tape proving this.

Granted, I've only seen highlights, such is the life of a Blogger without access to NFL Films, but, I fail to see James Jett II when I look at DHB.

At this point I have to say that Darrius Heyward-Bey has a better shot at being great in the NFL than Maclin OR Crabtree. Heck, Crab and Mac's QBs found their way onto NFL rosters, can anyone even name the QB for Maryland?

I cannot wait to see him haul in a long TD from J-Russ on Opening Night!!!

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Didn't I already make a post like this

But, Saints posts are better than mine but, I would just say the same thing I put on my post.

Defense Wins Championships and So does Jamarcus Russell!

by nishal26 on Apr 30, 2009 2:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Did you? Sorry Man. I guess Great Minds Think alike!

But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."

by saint on Apr 30, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great point NOT.

have you seen what he’s listed as on espn.com Height: 6’0⅝". And on the generous nfl.com 6’2". But either way your still trying to drink the cool aide on a reciever with NO hands. Come on man lets just admit he’ll suck and we can move on together without any of us losing any credibility on this site.

by bioecon on Apr 30, 2009 3:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

You sound like Borat NOT! ( no Really you do)

Defense Wins Championships and So does Jamarcus Russell!

by nishal26 on Apr 30, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

HAHAHA!!! The NFL Site has the info from the combine:

That is where the real numbers are gathered. It is funny how Crabtree lost a couple of inches and nobody even knows if he has the speed to be a true #1 receiver, yet, he was a no-brainer.

But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."

by saint on Apr 30, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

truer words have never been spoken

Come on man lets just admit he’ll suck and we can move on together without any of us losing any credibility on this site.

Wreck 'em, Tech!

by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 30, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sad, just sad

All of this would be funny if it weren’t so sad. I really don’t know what it is that motivates you guys to keep posting crap like this. I must be in an effort to convince yourselves that DHB is the best guy for you and you guys DIDN’T screw the pooch by not taking Orakpo, Maybin, Monroe, or whoever else. So you guys feel the need to partake in totally transparent exercises such as this. I mean, isn’t this at least the 3rd post such as this? What do you MOST wanna see happen being one, Who will have a better NFL Legacy, and now this one? Sad, really.

"The ONLY knock that people have on DHB is his lack of production at Maryland and his lack of hands. Those would be HUGE IF, Maryland ran a spread offense and had a QB who was told to pass first and ask questions last"

Really? Since when do you only need hands in a spread offense? Man, all of those receivers in College who didn’t play in spread offenses and didn’t need hands sure are lucky. And lack of hands and production is TWO KNOCKS on him not one, Pythogoras.

Hanging your hat on the height argument is myopic at best and retarded at worst. DHB is taller by one inch therefore he MUST be a better receiver than Crabtree. Are you kidding me? Crabtree might be 6’1", but he has the reach of someone 6’5" or bigger. 34 1/4" to be exact. That means he plays bigger than the size of Calvin Johnson who is 6’ 5". See Story Here Michael Crabtree’s a Freak: A Stat You May Not Have Seen.

All we techtom and I did was to come on here and defend our guy when someone questioned our guy. Just because you write crap on this blog doesn’t make it true. I will say again for clarity, Al Davis did not have to take Crabtree. but why do you guys have to works yourselves into a rich bubbly lather of denial? Heyward disappeared for games (that’s plural) at a time. 3 catches against Easter freakin Michigan and NONE against Clemson and NONE against Virginia. That work out to ONE per game for you, Pythagoras (saint). Not that you guys would know but, Crabtree played the MAJORITY of the season starting with the Texas A&M game with a bad ankle. He played ALL of that game and played ALL of the Utexas game and ALL the OK State game…ON ONE ankle!!! The kid is a gamer.

So come on, like bioecon says,

“lets just admit he’ll suck and we can move on together without any of us losing any credibility on this site.”

…not to mention Mmunoz, gl12ox05, Rated R Superstar, gregorycox, and all of the other regulars on this site agree not to mention the 64% of people that voted in YOUR poll and gave you a failing grade. Hell, I’ve even noticed a few lurkers coming out of the woodwork and NOT LIKE YOUR DRAFT.

Man, if you love your guy, the by all means, love your guy. But to hate on the Niners’ guy and devote SO MANY Posts to it just for shits and giggles is childish and stoopid (yes with two o’s).

Or you could just keep drinkin the kool aid.

Wreck 'em, Tech!

by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 30, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

HAHAHAH!!! It hurts to know that your Celebration was quite pre-mature?

Crabtree will be the next Chad Johnson without the speed or height. Enjoy!!!

But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."

by saint on Apr 30, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What part of taller, MUCH faster, Healthier and Bettter Attitude:

Do you not get?

How many 6 foot 1 wide-outs run a 4.6 and are successful in the NFL?

But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."

by saint on Apr 30, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh

so first….

He may be slower than he was AND nobody even knows how fast he was

and now he runs a 4.6 40?

just put your hands over your ears and keep singing, “la la la….i cant hear you”

Wreck 'em, Tech!

by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 30, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

4.53 was the best i could find

That may be a stretch, and who knows how fast he actually is, do you?

You could have had Orakpo or Oher with your pick n ad instead you took a dude with a bad wheel who is shorter than he says he is and who is going to, in his own words, “Show the team how the game of football is supposed to be played.”

But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."

by saint on May 1, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why did you draft him in the SBN mock then?

by RaiderPete on Apr 30, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

did he really?

Ive noticed plenty of people around here were calling for Specifially for Monroe and a few for Crabtree BEFORE the draft…there was even a guy (raiderrocker18) who dreaded the possibility of Davis pulling exactly this and drafiting DHB.

I dont mind a good debate but all this “reverse engineering” a reason why DHB will be better that Crabtree is asinine. I will say it again. Al Davis didnt have to take crabtree and I realize the only reason Crabtree is being singled out for comparison is because he and DHB play the same position. Two wide receivers like them easily lend themselves to comparison.

Id love to see what sort of twisted pretzel logic saint would come up with if there was no such person as michael crabtree

Wreck 'em, Tech!

by Tortilla Pirate on May 1, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Welcome Back Pete:

I was lost when I heard DHB was the pick. With Raji, Monroe, Crabtree and Monroe on teh board, I was BLOWN away.

Now, the more I think about it, perhaps with Silver and Black colored shades on, I see him as the perfect fit for our team and Crabtree’s flaws are becoming more apparent.

Personally, I wanted Eugene Monroe, in the Mock, Monroe was already off the board.

My Pre-Draft hope was to grab Andre Smith, but he went #6 to the Bengals.

It is a good thing that they didn’t follow my plan, because we would have had Monroe and (Insert Receiver not named Robiskie, who went to the Browns before the Raiders second pick)

But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."

by saint on May 1, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

hmm..

anquan boldin, jerry rice…

President of the Ramses Barden Fan Club

Fact on Villanova Sports

by Hoyadestroya85 on May 3, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only thing any of us know for sure

is that in 3 or 4 years the answer will be there for all to see, and all this is nothing more than talk from guys who like to talk about football players. This same conversation has gone on about other players in other years, this is perhaps more heated by the grief the Raiders got from the “experts” who are in love with Crabtree, just as they were in love with other guys, some who flopped, and some who turned out great.
The only thing that puzzles me is the idea some people have that WR’s make catches without anyone throwing to them, or so it sounds like. By the way, the most bogus argument I read is the “bad hands” tab that somebody put on DHB. By every measurement, DHB was the 3rd best receiver on everybody’s list, but no one mentioned “bad hands” until after the Raiders drafted him. All of a sudden the same guy I see on the highlight reel making circus catches has “bad hands”. Guys! Catching a football is not difficult, and even Braylon Edwards who is a great receiver had a terrible year last year dropping balls, dropped 16 which amounts to one a game, I will live with that.
Last but not least, who cares what some guys who read blogs think about a draft, or how they voted, that makes it true? Unfortunately, we have to wait another 5 months or so to determine what kind of players they are, and in reality won’t even know until next year sometime. Henderson & Higgins were considered flops until last season, a year after they were drafted. It is the 2nd season after a player is drafted that you really see how the draft went. As for me, I am putting my money on DHB.

by Laoren on Apr 30, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Absolutely Right

Laoren.

is that in 3 or 4 years the answer will be there for all to see, and all this is nothing more than talk from guys who like to talk about football players

What these Blockhead dont get is that my whole point is NOT who is better. I will say THAT again. My point of my post (this one anyway) is that why work yourself into such a frenzy trying to convince yourself that it was the best pick because he WILL BE BETTER than (insert player here: Maclin, Crabtree, orakpo, etc…) four days after the draft is just pathologically sad.

Wreck 'em, Tech!

by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 30, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Correction:

not to mention the 64% of people that voted in YOUR poll and gave you a failing grade

It was 34%

But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."

by saint on Apr 30, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

look

genius, when I added the grades I added the Ds and the Fs. I dont know what university YOU went to but and MY university a D is failing.

Wreck 'em, Tech!

by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 30, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I read that FREAK article:

Now that is laughable!!! You mean that a 1/2 inch of wingspan is going to make up for height, a cracked foot and average speed?

But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."

by saint on Apr 30, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

ummmm

because people can raise their arms UP???

Wreck 'em, Tech!

by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 30, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

attitude

to me is a non issue every great reciever has attitude. Because they know they can’t be stopped. Michael Irvin, TO, Plax, steve smith, even larry fitz said he’ll never again go a half without a catch ever again. But Crabtree has earned the right to have an attitude which is in dispute. DHB has earned the right to run track at the olympic trials. And if we really wanted a fast guy with no hands we should’ve drafted Usain Bolt better yet he’s an UFA. I don’t know if anyone heard the interview this morning with Mike Leach it was on 1140 talking about how Crabtree is exactly the opposite of what he has been portrayed as by one coach who was recently fired if i’m not mistaken.

by bioecon on Apr 30, 2009 5:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

HAHAHA!!! Come on Bacon, You can do better than that:

Mooch still swears that TO is misunderstood too. And each of those receivers is faster and or much taller than Crabtree.

But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."

by saint on Apr 30, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

come on people

this is getting out of hand. some good points made by tortilla pirate and some good points made by laoren. who knows if crabtree or DHB will be good. were gonna have to wait. some knocks on crabtree cuz of size and some knocks on DHB cuz of hands. the only thing im going to say is would u guys be saying the same thing if Al Davis would have drafted crabtree? to be honest i think u guys would be praising crabtree and thinking he is gonna be great. but again we are gonna have to wait to compare these guys nfl careers. to do so now is just pointless cuz nobody is gonna win this argument.

by 49ersAllTheWay on Apr 30, 2009 5:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Absolutely Right

49ers.

Im actually enjoying my debates with guys such as Laoren and kawelu. Its these incendiary definitive statements by a very LOUD minority make me just wanna speak up

Wreck 'em, Tech!

by Tortilla Pirate on Apr 30, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not debating with anyone

I’m just saying we have no idea, and won’t for a few years. You have to admit however we are sure filling in the dead time until the season starts. 49ers is correct in that had the Raiders drafted Crabtree this debate would not take place because Kiper and McShay would have said it was a good draft but criticized the Raiders for not taking (fill in the blank). There would have been a few dissenters saying Maclin would have been a better choice, but nothing like this.

by Laoren on Apr 30, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

True

Its like comparing apples and oranges. These receivers will be on different teams with different schemes and different quarterbacks. Whether they succeed or not has a lot more to do with that, than size, speed or hands.

by rambis64 on Apr 30, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Look

The reason why Crabtree had more receptions and touchdowns than dhb is because they ran a spread offense. Spread offense is one tight end one running back and 3- wideouts. Over at Maryland they ran a I offense. That was 2wide receivers 1-2 tight ends and one fullback and one running back. That is an NFL formation. Plus Crabs had Graham Harrell. Who was the QB for Maryland??? That question will forever be a mystery.

by i love sports101 on May 2, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

oops

I mean 3-4 wideouts

by i love sports101 on May 2, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

true

That is true but if you look at drops to thrown at then you would see that DHB given the same passes will have more drops , but that does not matter our major problem is not the wr it is the qb , at least untill Jeff takes over then got a good chance of winning the west.

by chrispannell on May 2, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

DHB

I think he has a good chance at being a good receiver for us, just from watching some of his highlights he very athletic and can make some great catches.

by steven_ramirez530 on Apr 30, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

DHB will be the greatest wide receiver EVER based on the one Youtube clip I

saw of him!!! He is SO phucking amazing!!!! No body will EVER play football better than HandsOfStone, er DHB!!

by Bacon on Apr 30, 2009 8:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

A year from now one of you will be right.....

Who remains to be seen, cant wait till August baby…..

They hate to love us....R A I D E R-N A T I O N....

by NATION OF DOMINATION on Apr 30, 2009 11:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Excellent post saint

What I like is his upper body strength, most recievers do not have this talent(needed against physical corners and for blocking).

"May the wind be at our back, here comes the Silver and Black "

by RUKidding on May 1, 2009 2:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

DHB

Right on Saint you hit the nail right on the head.

by ChocolateBuddha on May 1, 2009 5:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Dude...

…I hope your right, but it has been a very long time since we didn’t suck! We should be awesome but we choose big arm, no brain QB’s. In fact the only QB on our team worth a damn is Jeff Garcia.

by Andrew the Raider King on May 1, 2009 6:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

How can you really say that?

Russell is 23 years old, had one year of starting, younger and less experienced that Ryan or Flacco, was caught in the middle of a feud between a coach and the owner, then taken another way mid way through the season, that makes him a QB with no brains? How was that manifested on the field from the games you saw? That was the knock on Terry Bradshaw for his first 3 or 4 years, worked out all right for him, 3 Super Bowls I believe. Maybe it is just some guys who blog, but so many comments are just juvenile with no basis of fact.

by Laoren on May 1, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

again agree with Laoren

this is true u cant talk about JRuss being a bust or has no brains until 1 or in my opinion 2 more seasons he has only had one season of starting under his belt. he showed some promising things in his final games. This year should be a slight indicator of were he is at but to call him a bad pick already is premature.

by 49ersAllTheWay on May 1, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I Like You Man

Very respectable “commentation”.

J-Mac got arm, D-Mac is unique, DHB got the hands, and he can move his feet.
Niners got Hill, he is really cheap, now they got Crabtree, hey don't fall asleep.

by Rayder K on May 1, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

AH

I see you try’in to flow with your new Signature Nice. (not being Sarcastic)

Defense Wins Championships and So does Jamarcus Russell!

by nishal26 on May 1, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

no he does not

he has never won a championship , he sat on the bench and got one with LSU he did not play

by chrispannell on May 2, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

how can you take up for him

He does not show up for practice , has bad work habits , is always out of shape , Andrew is right the only one we have is Jeff. J-Russ bought all this on his self by holding out for so long and not putting in the work. But on the bight side we have great running backs and a defensive cord that has always had a top 10 d

by chrispannell on May 2, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

How did J-Russ

bought all this on his self by holding out for so long and not putting in the work. Well, that’s not his fault look, after you get Drafted you are supposed to sign something called a “Contract” which the player has no say it it’s between his agents and the owner so you can’t blame him for that at all.

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on May 2, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here's my new version.

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who find Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on May 1, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Cache this post.

In about 3 years it’s going to be hilarious.

by the1austin on May 1, 2009 11:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Hey

IM here cuz i just want to be part of it

by i love sports101 on May 2, 2009 8:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

that is wishful thinking , number one J-Russ has limited abilities , two it was yet another bad pick by the raider front office , let us count the bad number one picks 1 Huff , 2 J-Russ , 3 dhb , all three they could have had better players but went for flash in pan big names or like in dhb case speed , being along time member of the nation i can say that the demise of the team is as bad as i have ever seen it and it does not look like it is going to get better. the only hope we have is that Jeff gets the start and the defense can carry the team.

by chrispannell on May 2, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

In love with Jeff, Huh

You must have been a Bucs, Eagles, and 49er fan in your life that’s not how it works here, Raiders for Life. Why are you comparing a 3 year rookie playing his 2nd year to a 40 year old who has played on 3 or 4 different teams. J-Russ showed major improvements the end of last year and had a Top 5 QB rating of 77.1%. DHB was the right pick for us Crabtree didn’t want to be here so Fuck’em we don’t need Divas here.

by nishal26 on May 2, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lets not forget that he is also only 23 years old

this whole J-russ bashing is insane he has only played 1 full season and is the youngest starting quarterback in the NFL. He has shown he does not throw interceptions and will only get better now he really has some stability around him and the last third of last season I thought he played great.
It pisses me off that these young QB’s get ripped so early into their career give them a break they are playing by far the most complex position on the field and an opportunity to learn the NFL game.

"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell

by Ozraider on May 3, 2009 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This Blog

Hey guys, I’m new to this blog and I think in general, there’s a ton of brutality here. JR is young and hasn’t had enough time to prove himself. Many QB’s don’t fair well early. Montana didn’t, Elway didn’t, Manning(s), didn’t….I haven’t done much research but I know there are more names to complete my point….OK, Plunkett, Bradshaw, Gannon, et al. Give the KID a chance. This also applies to DHB. Every year we see the draft experts at BSpn proving that they don’t know the future any better than we do….the NFL Draft is still a “Crapshoot”. To quote one of my favorite bloggers " Go Raiders 10-6". I know that’s hard for some of you to believe, but just drink the Kool-Aid and you’ll be fine………….

by socalfan13 on May 3, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

and that is some mighty fine kool-aid!

by Ozraider on May 3, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL, Steeler fan to throw Mike Wallace into the argument....

Mike ran a tick behind H-B over 40 yards, but was quicker over 10. Wallace also showed more explosion with couple extra inches in the vertical and horizontal. He isn’t quite as big, at 6’ 1/2" and 200 pounds, but the extra jump more than makes up for that. His college numbers were similar to H-B, and he comes with the same rep of being more of a burner than a technician.

Wallace played college ball for a team that didn’t get it together until the last half of his senior season, after 9 total wins in is first 3 seasons, Ole Miss won their last 6 or 7 in a row under new coach Houston Nutt. Wallace averaged about 100 yards receiving and over 1 TD per game during that stretch. They beat Texas Tech in the Cotton Bowl, and Wallace had around 180 total yards compared to 30 for Michael Crabtree.

by robert ethan on May 3, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Lets not kid ourselves

DHB is not a bad pick by any means, I actually thought he would be a great fit in Oakland but to take him at No. 7 when he could have easily been available in the 20’s if not the second round. We failed to trade back and either stockpile picks or gain some helpful Veterans. Sitting here debating who’s going to be the best out of them all is pointless right now lets let them take a NFL snap before we judge them.

by JC529 on May 4, 2009 11:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

AL DAVIS PICKS ANOTHER GREAT!

Heyward-Bey looks good under microscope: Caught everything thrown his way, jumps, fights for the ball, only top four receiver with ProSet experience, top end clocked at 4.27.

Crabtree Wilts: Only 6’1 1/4" not 6’3", poor interview refers to plays with limited understanding, example, Ace 8 is his reference to an entire play, fastest time on record 4.53, attitude that screams, “Arrest Me!”, Broken Wheel, consistently takes angle on CB’s, won’t work against NFL speed at CB, today Jerry Rice would blow past Crabtree.

Just these facts makes it seem like the Sports Writers were feeding off of there own rumors about Crabtree. It is now suspected San Francisco with have an ineffective Quarterback throwing to a receiver that doesn’t have NFL speed.

by svduran1 on May 5, 2009 9:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

JC529 never successful...

Ok, so I did a little digging and found out two things. Bey and Mitchell are the real deal. Every single actual reference I can find on either of these guys is off the charts. Bey: Jumps, Fights for the Ball, Caught every catchable ball thrown his way, clocked at 4.20 last year and 4.27 at the combine. Mitchell: Freak Athletic Body, Big Hitter, Good Instincts, Doesn’t Bite on Reverses, Runs 4.41, true 4 year player, 3 year starter.

The plain fact is both these guys were drafted exactly where they needed to be drafted. Anybody remember Brett Favre? New York wanted and needed to draft him, Atlanta jumped in from of them and swooped him up. They ended up with Nagle. Anybody remember how that worked out:?

So it appears the Sports Writer were asleep at the wheel. They were too busy reading each other’s columns and rehashing old news to get off their bar stools to do any actual reporting. It’s not like these guys were a big secret? Mitchell had 16 teams at his workout and 8 invites. Every coach and recruiter new exactly what they were looking at.

So Gil interviewed Mitchell last night on Sirius and he was very impressed. The lazy guys on Sirius always run to Gil with they slept through class. All the slams and second guessing are just childish efforts to hide the fact they completely missed a talent like this.

by svduran1 on May 5, 2009 10:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs