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Raiders Draft History

No, not this year's. We've discussed it to death, haven't we? I was looking over the last several years, and most of these players are at least still playing for the Raiders (although that 2002 draft didn't work out for them so well). Some of them are even starting for other teams.


2008
1. Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
4a. Tyvon Branch, DB, Connecticut
4b. Arman Shields, WR, Richmond
6. Trevor Scott, DE, Buffalo
7. Chaz Schilens, WR, San Diego State

2007
1. JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU
2. Zach Miller, TE, Arizona State
3a. Quentin Moses, DE, Georgia
3b. Mario Henderson, OL, Florida State
3c. Johnnie Lee Higgins, WR, UTEP
4a. Michael Bush, RB, Louisville
4b. John Bowie, CB, Cincinnati
5a. Jay Richardson, DE, Ohio State
5b. Eric Frampton, S, Washington State
6. , FB, Arkansas State
7. Jonathan Holland, WR, Louisiana Tech 

2006
1. Michael Huff, S, Texas
2. Thomas Howard, LB, Texas-El Paso
3. Paul McQuistan, OL, Weber State
4. Darnell Bing, S, USC
6. Kevin Boothe, OL, Cornell
7a. Chris Morris, C, Michigan State
7b. Kevin McMahan, WR, Maine

2005
1. Fabian Washington, CB, Nebraska
2. Stanford Routt, CB, Houston
3a. Andrew Walter, QB, Arizona State
3b. Kirk Morrison, LB, San Diego State
6a. Anttaj Hawthorne, DT, Wisconsin
6b. Ryan Riddle, LB, California
6c. Pete McMahon, OT, Iowa

2004
1. Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa
2. Jake Grove, C, Virginia Tech
3. Stuart Schweigert, S, Purdue
4. Carlos Francis, WR, Texas Tech
5. Johnnie Morant, WR, Syracuse
6a. Shawn Johnson, DE, Delaware
6b. Cody Spencer, LB, North Texas
7a. Courtney Anderson, TE, San Jose State

2003
1a. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, California
1b. Tyler Brayton, DE, Colorado
2. Teyo Johnson, TE, Stanford
3a. Sam Williams, DE, Fresno State
3b. Justin Fargas, RB, USC
4. Shurron Pierson, LB, South Florida
5. Doug Gabriel, WR, Central Florida
6. Dustin Rykert, T, BYU
7a. Sideeq Shabazz, S, New Mexico State
7b. Ryan Hoag, WR Gustavus Adolphus

2002
1a. Phillip Buchanon, CB, Miami, Fla.
1b. Napoleon Harris, LB, Northwestern
2a. Langston Walker, OL, California
2b. Doug Jolley, TE, BYU
5. Kenyon Coleman, DE, UCLA
6a. Keyon Nash, DB, Albany State (Ga.)
6b. Larry Ned, RB, San Diego State
7. Ronald Curry, QB, North Carolina

2001
1. Derrick Gibson, S, Florida State
2. Marques Tuiasosopo, QB Washington
3. DeLawrence Grant, DE, Oregon State
5. Raymond Perryman, S, Northern Arizona
6. Chris Cooper, DE, Nebraska-Omaha
7a. Derek Combs, RB, Ohio State
7b. Ken-Yon Rambo, WR, Ohio State

But I'm not going analyze it. I'd rather hear what you all have to say about it. How do you think the Raiders have been doing in the draft? Especially considering all the flak the team takes in the press for their picks.

 

 

 

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I’d have to go with 2003 and 2007 as our best years, but overall, it’s pretty mediocre.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 2, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hmm

We’ve had a couple of good picks (Nnamdi, Miller, Fargas) , and a ton of awful ones (Gallery, Huff, Walter, etc etc etc). We don’t always screw up every pick, but the talent on our draft classes is much lower than the talent most other teams get from their drafts. I’d give them maybe a 4/10 overall grade, since that seems to be about the good pick to crap pick ratio.

by yo on Jun 2, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gallery is great right now

the only sure-fire starter on the line and is playing at a near-Pro Bowl level.

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by KA1Z3R on Jun 3, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it depends on how you look at it

When you have the second overall pick, and you pass on Larry Fitzgerald, Phillip Rivers, Ben Rothlisburger, and Sean Taylor to get him in what was considered an extremely controversial move AT THE TIME, and all you can say about him five years later is that hes a “sure-fire starter” playing at a high level, I’m not sure it was a great pick. Just like if DHB has an alright career and starts and gets around 700 recieving yards a year while Crabtree becomes the next Jerry Rice, I don’t think I would say that it was a great pick in a few years. (Not saying that is going to happen or trying to bring that draft into debate, just using a hypothetical situation). But the number two overall pick in a very strong first round draft class should have been used in a more intelligent way. If this team had taken Fitty, Rivers, or Ben, we would be significantly better for it right now.

by yo on Jun 3, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hell

I’m pretty sure Gallery was the ONLY non probowler out of the first eight picks of that draft. Not that the probowl is the end all be all of production, but it does mean something.

by yo on Jun 3, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gallery was a surefire pick at the time, there was no second guessing

He’s been a huge disappointment but he’s managed to stay productive at guard.

by RaiderPete on Jun 3, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I was kinda exaggerating with extremely controversial, but there were a lot of people who didn’t think it was a great pick then. He was considered someone who would for sure be productive but 2 was kinda high. Regardless we’re analyzing how their drafting turned out, and that was one of the biggest busts ever, even if hes turned it around a little at guard.

by yo on Jun 3, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we could pick Joe Montana in the second round

and the media would say it was a controversial pick. From what I remember Gallery was considered a cant miss when we drafted him

"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell

by Ozraider on Jun 20, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And

No doubt the analysts thought Huff was a surefire pick too.

by rightnasty on Jun 20, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to see how he does

w/ the new DC. Schweigert was bad under Ryan too.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Jun 20, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scweigert

was afriad to hit someone.

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on Jun 20, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he misses his assignments

but when he did tackle, it was hard tackles. I remember watching the one Miami game w/ my friend at his house and when he took his guy down, it was priceless.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Jun 21, 2009 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Schweigert had some good hits here and there

but cost us way more TD’s by whiffing on tackles in the open field, by no means a consistent tackler

"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell

by Ozraider on Jun 21, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

gallery just needed to be moved inside he has short arms thats all hes great now that they found a home for him carlisle is made for ZBS too and satele was a greta pick up the AFC east has unbeleivable talent at the NT position so centers get eaten alive there just look at the bills draft class this year and their 0-6 record against their division

by BRIANMULHALL on Jun 14, 2009 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But

why exactly did we “exchange” centers with Miami?

by rightnasty on Jun 17, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My "outsider" analysis.

The Raiders are missing on picks WAY too much.

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by Joe_D on Jun 2, 2009 3:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Such as...

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on Jun 2, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2007

Was a great Draft for us J-Russ, Mac-Miller, and JLH.

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on Jun 2, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The jury is still out on Russell, but Higgins has proven to be very dynamic in the return game. Miller should be a Pro Bowl tight end when it’s all over. I think after 2009 concludes and we look back on drafts from the decade that was (2000-2009), 2007 will be the best with 2003 behind it for now.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 2, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unrelated. Ken Stabler returning?

Anybody hear anything about The Snake leaving Bama and returning to Oakland for a PR job? Is it true?

by dram5780 on Jun 2, 2009 7:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Heh

Funny, Pete. But if he is returning to Oakland, how about giving him an assistant coaches job? Not only a bunch of NFL experience, but a Super Bowl ring as well. He’s apparently taken an interest in Russell’s career, so let him help out.

by rightnasty on Jun 2, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be reasonable

Willie Brown is our CB coach=Nnamdi Asoumga

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on Jun 3, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The past two years

have been the building blocks for us and we’ve gotten some truly good talents. (past two years meaning 07 and 08 drafts, this draft is still uncertain of course)

Russell- still undecided but shows lots of promise
Miller- Pro Bowl caliber TE, just needs to be receiving more instead of blocking
Higgins- Pro Bowl level returner and speedy/elusive WR target
henderson- looks to be the starting LT this year, at which he succeeded last year
Richardson- definite DE starter, great in the run game and is really getting a good pass rush
Michael Bush- should be our starting back, tough runner with surprising speed and hands
McFadden- dynamic playmaking RB with great hands and blazing speed. needs to work on ball carrier vision
Branch- should be a starting S this year and a starting returner in the future. Fast and lays a mean hit
Scott- Great pass rushing DE (tied for rookie lead last year) who appears to be better in the run game this year. possibly a starter
Schilens- Amazing WR. 4.4 speed and the best hands of any of our receivers. I guarantee he’ll start this year

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by KA1Z3R on Jun 3, 2009 12:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with your

analysis except I really don’t want to see Branch on returns with Higgins as punt returner and Miller on kick return both are very good and young. I think Branch will take enough of a beating as a safety. (I know you said in the future but with any luck he will be to valuable to risk on special teams)

as for this years selections, I am most interested in Mike Mitchell and Frantz Joseph it will be good to see the NASTINESS again I hope they come through.

The future is uncertain... and the end is always near. JMorrison

by S-n-B4life on Jun 3, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree but

Miller’s not going to be with the team for many years unless he gets a little better as our dime or nickel back. He’s not too bad, but he’s not good either as our dime/nickel back.

Now if Branch does manage to be a great safety (which I think he very well could) then Miller should be a Raider for a long time. If not, then Davis will use him as he sees fit, which to me is kick returner and probably starting safety.

Randy Blythe, Singer of Lamb of God- "Words can be broken, so can bones....." Omerta by Lamb of God

by KA1Z3R on Jun 4, 2009 4:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And who gives a shit if guys are starting for other teams

They should be playing for us

Al Davis doesnt sleep...he waits

by singh_is_king on Jun 3, 2009 3:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, look at the number of DBs

I’m surprised how many DBs were taken in the first 2 rounds, almost one in every year. Too bad they only found 1 really good one out of the bunch.

by Bitgod on Jun 7, 2009 12:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

im still throwing things

becuase we didnt get Crabtree.

by seventeen on Jun 12, 2009 2:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You mean the

guy that hinted he didn’t want to come here?

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Jun 12, 2009 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What Happened to our Team?

In all honesty the drafting has been mediocre to terrible in some cases. They just have missed too many times at the top of their drafts. On that list the only great pick in my opinion has been Nnamdi(2003). There have been some good players picked in the later rounds who have contributed, but again no stars. The best teams always find a few diamonds in the rough. I’ll give one example that I remember vividly about 1st round drafting. The year they took Buchanon (2002), who was the top rated corner that year. Presumably, they watched film when they scouted him. If so I don’t know how they couldn’t have noticed that Ed Reed was the leader and top playmaker of that secondary at Miami. I watched at least 5 Miami games that year and you couldn’t miss that he was THE star of the national champions. We took Buchanon(17) and N.Harris(23) in front of Reed(24). Look at 2001, D. Gibson(28) & Tuiasosopo(59) in front of……Reggie Wayne(30), Todd Heap(31), Drew Brees(32), Chad Johnson(36), Kris Jenkins(44), Shaun Rogers (61),& Steve Smith(74). 2003, their 2nd 1st rounder was T. Brayton(32) which still mystifies me to this day, over Anquan Boldin(54) and Osi Umenyiora(56). Then Teyo Johnson(63) over Jason Witten(69). 2004 was already discussed by previous bloggers. 2005 F.Washington & S.Routt. Roddy White went 4picks after Washington and Routt went 7 picks in front of Lofa Tatupu. 2006 we took Huff @ 7, who I’m not ready to completely give up on, but this year is his last chance. Ernie Sims went @ 9 & H.Ngata went @ 12 and who could have been our run stopper in the middle. The last two years are still a work in progress. I won’t even comment on this year’s picks because I have never been more disappointed( I hope I’m completely wrong). I know that hindsight is 20/20 but you can’t tell me that these players I mentioned were under the radar. I didn’t even bring those players into the discussion! Let’s say personnel dictated why those picks were taken. So I’ll go through these drafts with that in mind in this scenario. 2001 we take Brees(QB) & Jenkins(DT) over Gibson(S) & Tuiasosopo). 2002 we take Reed(S) & Lito Sheppard(CB) who went @(26) over Buchanon(CB) and N.Harris(LB). 2003 we take Umenyiora(DE) over Brayton(DE) and Witten(TE) over T.Johnson(TE). 2004 we take L.Fitzgerald(WR) over Gallery(T). 2005 we take R.White(WR) & L.Tatupu(LB) over Washington(CB) & Routt(CB). 2006 we take Sims(LB) over Huff(S). Look at what we could have.
QB Brees(Saints)
WRFitzgerald(cards)
WR R.White(Falcons)
TE Witten(Cowboys)
DT K.Jenkins(Jets)
DE Umenyiora(G-men)
LB Tatupu(Seahawks)
LB Sims(Lions)
CB Sheppard(Eagles)
S Reed(Ravens)
I didn’t even bring guys into the mix who are solid starters because I wanted to have all star recognition. All of these players have been pro bowlers. The bottom line is we have done a terrible job of drafting at the top in recent years. At the top of the draft you should get the best player available and I’m not talking about 40 times and combine #‘s. Later rounds you can try and fill needs because there isn’t as much inherrent risk in missing on those guys. Even if we couldn’t have kept all of those guys for salary cap reasons, trade them for more picks. We probably would have won another super bowl or at least been in contention every year. I’ve been a Raider fan since I was 6 yrs old and it just kills me to see them struggle like they have in recent years. The draft has been even more frustrating because thats the reason behind our downfall. I’m not 100% sure who makes all of the scouting and draft decisions, but whoever it is needs to take some time to re-evaluate what it is they want in a player.

by STX on Jun 17, 2009 6:42 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

ppl put too much into the players that are drafted..more blame should be put on the coaches..coaching wins football games..coaching makes players

by pablopaul25 on Jun 20, 2009 8:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

But players have to work just as hard

to grasp the scheme and step up to the professional level of the sport.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Jun 20, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

but do you think its a coincidence that certian teams stay good..look at the steelers for instance and their tradition of great linebacker play..thats because of a great coach that help guys who want to work hard become great players

by pablopaul25 on Jun 21, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe if we

can keep a coaching staff more than 1 season we can have the same success.

Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!

by mikesd1981 on Jun 21, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

Recently that has been impossible for us to do.

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on Jun 21, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean

i thought gruden was good but we traded him away for picks we did nothing with

by pablopaul25 on Jun 22, 2009 5:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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