Silver and Black Pride's Sunday Community Poll: Training Camp Questions
Seven long, long months of offseason waiting for this time of the year to finally return. Yes Raiders fans, the wait is just about over as it's time to put on the pads and helmets and start hitting as the Oakland Raiders prepare to get the 2009 NFL season started with the opening of their training camp in Napa on July 29th.
As far as Raiders offseasons goes, 2009 has been their most functional and stable in years, especially compared with the others in the AFC West. While there are questions for all 32 of the NFL teams leading into their training camps, we are here to discuss the Raiders, so let's look at the questions the Raiders will have to answer going into training camp:
- JaMarcus Russell: When it comes to questions with the Raiders, the number 1 question always revolves around JaMarcus Russell. He showed steady progress during the last six games of the 2008 season and in particular, the final two games of the year, which were upset victories, Russell looked especially promising in all aspects of his game. However, during the offseason, with news being slow and not much to report on, the media tried in vain again to get the "Russell is fat" story to stick and when that didn't work they moved onto the pursuit of questioning Russell's work ethic and whether he has desire to be a great quarterback. Well, this is the year we will find all of that out. The Raiders have done just about all they can do to build support around Russell and give him all he needs to succeed. With stability and experience in the coaching staff for the first time since Russell arrived; a veteran and experienced QB in Garcia to mentor and push Russell; an improved offensive line; an All-Pro in the making tight end in Zach Miller, who just happens to be Russell's favorite target; an upgrade at the wide receiver position from experience, health and the draft; the addition of Lorenzo Neal's blocking skills and leadership in the huddle; and most importantly, a solid running game that is the team's strength which will match the "run first" offensive scheme. With all of the above, Russell should have all he needs to be an effective NFL quarterback in this system. Russell's condition, leadership, footwork and accuracy will all be on display in camp, so the question of Russell's progress will be answered before the opener against the Chargers.
- Stopping the run: This has been the Achilles Heal for the Raiders' defense for the last several years. Has it been because of pure lack of talent? Or has it been because of the misuse of talent by the Rob Ryan regime, which has not been known for discipline and conditioning. A lot of the blame has been put on the defensive line, certainly deserving, but not entirely to blame, as the linebacking group seems to have forgotten the fundamentals of tackling. The question coming into camp is, new defensive coordinator John Marshall brings to the Raiders previous success and experience that should add the the much needed and previously lacking, attention to the fundamentals and discipline, are the Raiders finally ready to take a step up and show that they are capable of stopping the run? If that answer turns out to be lack of talent, then expect the Raiders to still make a move and acquire another defensive tackle. Dwayne Robertson is still out there, but the best move would be for the Raiders and Pats to work out a deal for the Raiders to acquire Vince Wilfork.
- Finding SAM: I don't mean Sam Williams either, as he has been a colossal disappointment on the strongside and now his value has been reduced to special teams. The Raiders have plugged in Jon Alston, the speedy special teamer to play the SAM position and so far through the mini's and OTA's he has impressed the coaching staff. Alston also has reportedly bulked up to 235lbs to be able to handle the riggers that the position calls for and to be sure, Alston does know how to tackle. Ricky Brown, the previous starter, remains in the mix, but he is being tried at MLB to add depth behind Morrison. That leaves rookie Slade Norris and Williams at this time as the only competition and depth at SAM. This is an incredibly thin position and potential liability to the defense. We will see if Alston holds up in camp and can really take control of the position, otherwise, the Raiders will have to continue their search for the real SAM.
- Mario Henderson: The Raiders could have drafted Eugene Monroe but they didn't. That was primarily because of their belief and confidence in Mario Henderson. Henderson had certainly done everything he could last season when he was given the opportunity to play. We all know that the strength of the offensive line starts with the left tackle and camp will show if Mario can fend off the competition from Barnes and become a solid, effective NFL left tackle. The question going into camp will be is Henderson the real deal and is he going to be the man protecting JaMarcus' blind side for years to come?
- Safety: This unit last year couldn't tackle, couldn't cover and couldn't communicate. That problem should be addressed by the John Marshall and the new coaches. Oakland has lacked a true enforcer at that position since Rod Woodson left after 2003. The corners are going to do their job, but it is time for the safeties to do theirs, else the Raiders defense will continue to be exposed. The Raiders have "promising potential" at safety in Tyvon Branch and rookie Mike Mitchell, the question going into camp will be can that promising potential be realized and turned into solid and effective play at safety and become an upgrade for the defense?
Those are my five questions going into camp. What do you think Nation? What are the answers that you are looking for from the Raiders going in to training camp?
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Wow, there are so many. It was tough to pick, but I ultimately had to go with JaMarcus Russell. It’s on his shoulders. He has to be showing improvement. He doesn’t have to be Tom Brady or anything like that, but he has to show that he’s better than what he was from the previous season. It’s a quarterback-driven league and without a quarterback, you can’t be successful.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 26, 2009 9:47 AM PDT reply actions
Stopping the Run
I voted for stopping the run. I think the second half of Russell’s season showed enough progress for people to calm down about his ability to be an effective NFL quarterback. With a full season behind him and another training camp under his belt, Russell should be fine.
The Raiders, however, will not be fine if they are going to continue being in the bottom 5 for run defense in the NFL. The defense has proven its effectiveness against the pass, but as long as teams run unabated against us we aren’t going to win a ton of games. For this reason, I think the run defense is the bigger question mark going into training camp. It will be very interesting to see what Marshall and Board have to say about the defensive line during training camp, their first opportunity to speak with the media.
Slade Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.
ESPN’s draft coverage missed the moment when Al Davis and Tom Cable each took turns using Mel Kiper’s mock draft as toilet paper. - Chris Shellcroft
I'm Going To Say
The biggest question this training camp or should I say year is if we can play as a team, a family. If this happens and we have chemistry, the possibilities are endless. We can’t blame individuals for our mistakes. I like to see a team effort.
R.I.P - Michael Jackson
Stop the run.
If the Raiders can’t stop the run, nothing else will matter. If Russell can’t be effective, at least they have Garcia. But at the same time, if the offense can move the chains, the defense should be more rested and play better. If Garcia is more effective moving the chains, the defense should be better a at stopping the run. Geez dose that make any sense?
That's it right there
I say stop the run first just because they have such a good running game. That takes a lot pressure off our quarterbacks on offense. If we can stop the run and run the ball, we should be successful with just a mediocre performance at QB.
I think the answer is....
that we will still be fairly week against the run. We didnt change any defensive personel except with a new pass rusher and a rookie safety. I think in AL Davis’ mine, his goal is to fix the offense, and not just for this year, but for the next 10 years, thus the drafting of a qb, rb, and now wr the last 3 years. So I think the biggest question will be if our saviors can actually produce. We have a good running game, now our future passing game rides on the shoulders of Russell (Garcia would only be a one year fix) and our offensive line. I voted for Russell but questions on the OL was a very near second.
Hopefully Russell, DMAC, Bush, and the WR’s (basically the entire off) take a major step forward this year. Then we can concentrate on defensive players with the next draft and beyond.
GREAT article as usual, I went with stop the run ,But Rayder K is dead on everybody has to be on the same page& mission! I’m really looking forward to a positive season ,with 2 of our Div. rivals in chaos theres no time like now to take the AFC west !! I get to see my Raiders in Seattle 9-3-09 can’t wait to listen to all the B.S. from hox fans!
Hemiroy, good luck in Seattle with that. The Seahawks do have great fans, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 26, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
has to be henderson
this season rests on his and barnes’s shoulders. It’s a butterfly effect. Good pass protection means Russell can pass more effectively, the running game can open up, third downs are much more frequently converted, the defense won’t be on the field nearly as much, the defense will be fresher and play better and faster against the run and pass, opposing offenses struggle, wins are made. But if Henderson and Barnes don’t hold up their respective tackle spots (whether that be Mario left and Khalif right or vice versa) then the chain is reversed on us and we stay mediocre.
This season will, without a doubt, revolve around the play of this O-Line. Russell’s fate is directly tied into what kind of OT Mario/Barnes is. Will they be like Harris/Green of last year, or like Clady/Harris in Denver, or even Anderson/Gaither in Balitmore? If we get a Denver/Balitmore-esque OT tandem, I will be extremely satisfied. Though I don’t expect anymore than that for this year.
"You'll take my life but I'll take yours too. You'll fire you musket but I'll run you through. So when your waiting for the next attack. You'd better stand there's no turning back"- "The Trooper" by Iron Maiden
Stopping the run
Towards the end of last year JR was improving. Give the guy a break his 1st year he was on the bench for the most part. His 2nd started slow but ended good.
Now the common denominator was Kiffin (the head coach as we all know) that didn’t want him as the QB to begin with so do you think it stands to reason his learning was also slowed. With Kiffin gone he improved. I will wait to pass judgment on him until the end of this season.
The defense needs to stop the run. The main reason it should be the most intriguing is because we did nothing as far as players go to fix it only a coaching change. I hope coach Cable is right. We will see. Our DT’s are questionable and labeled underachievers ( Joseph and Warren) and Sands as well but he was undrafted and the other 2 were 1st round I believe.
We have added weapons on offense i.e Dmac, Bush, DHB and Miller to help JR the O-line is a close 2nd for me Henderson came on strong at the end of last year also. JR needs protection to succeed.
The future is uncertain... and the end is always near. JMorrison
I see that some people have said that JaMarcus Russell has basically proven to be an effective starting quarterback based on about five out of the last six games or so of the season.
In 2007, the A’s called up top-notch prospect Daric Barton from Triple-A Sacramento. He proceeded to hit .347 in September call-ups, which is a very good number. In 2008 and a small sample size in 2009 — roughly 480 at-bats later — Barton has hit .222 since that 2007 call-up session.
I know you can’t really compare baseball to football and I am not really trying to. I’m just pointing out that nothing is a given based on a small sample size. Do I think Russell will become an effective quarterback? Yes, I think he will become more than just an effective quarterback. I think that’s the biggest question heading into this season, though, because he needs to prove it more consistently over a 16-game period.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 26, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions
To defend myself...
I didn’t say Russell has proven himself, just that he’s progressed enough to take him out of the #1 question for training camp. Obviously Russell’s play will dictate the Raiders’ success to a great extent, but the defense has to get him the ball more in order to win games.
Slade Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.
ESPN’s draft coverage missed the moment when Al Davis and Tom Cable each took turns using Mel Kiper’s mock draft as toilet paper. - Chris Shellcroft
I don't believe
I said he has proven himself either… I agree with Live Adam that he progressed enough not to warrant the #1 question in camp. Not doing anything to help the D-Line but a coaching change is my biggest question during camp. Although the recent signing of Ellis will help.
The O-Line and JR are 2nd to watch.
The future is uncertain... and the end is always near. JMorrison
Other
I was tempted to say stopping the run, but then their pass rush was pretty bleak as well. The defense needs to show it got much much better over all. Without heat on the QB then I don’t care who you have in the secondary; it will be a long season for them. And without stopping the run it will be a long season for the entire defense. The LBs also have to step up in the run game, because I don’t think it was all the DL’s fault – or Ryan’s.
IF this can happen – the run D can rank at least average (around 15th) and there’s good pressure on the QB – then JR will only have to pull a Flacco and not lose games while the running game dominates.
The problem now with the pass rush is situational rushers. If your starters are not your rushers then a smart offense will throw more when they’re on the field rather than waiting for them to bring in Scott, while Burgess has been a non factor most of the last two years.
Pass Rush Was Actually Top 10
While the sack numbers were only slightly above average with 32, the adjusted sack rate, which accounts for the number of sacks given the number of passing plays attempted as well as the down and yardage, was ranked 6th in the NFL. The Raiders defense sacked opposing quarterbacks 7.3% of the time, behind only Dallas, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, and Carolina.
If Ellis can take over the starting RDE spot I think our general pass rush will improve, with the situational rushers (Scott and Burgess(?)/other) coming on in nickel/dime packages to bring even more heat.
Slade Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.
ESPN’s draft coverage missed the moment when Al Davis and Tom Cable each took turns using Mel Kiper’s mock draft as toilet paper. - Chris Shellcroft
Addendum
See these links for more info on adjusted sack rate:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/sports/football/14score.html?_r=1
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl
Slade Norris destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.
ESPN’s draft coverage missed the moment when Al Davis and Tom Cable each took turns using Mel Kiper’s mock draft as toilet paper. - Chris Shellcroft
I don't think
Mario will even start. I think the line will be ( starting from left tackle) Khalif Barnes, Cooper Carlisle, John Wade, Robert Gallery, and Cornell Green
in that situation
I think you’d actually see Pears starting at right. Much better right tackle than Green. And why do you have Gallery and Carlisle swapped?
"You'll take my life but I'll take yours too. You'll fire you musket but I'll run you through. So when your waiting for the next attack. You'd better stand there's no turning back"- "The Trooper" by Iron Maiden
Anybody got any news on my boy Hay-Bey?
I’m a current student at Maryland and a huge DHB fan. Anything you guys can tell me about his progress would be great. Gotta keep up with my fellow Terps. Good luck in Training Camp guys and take care of my boy! You have an elite WR wearing the silver and black.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
He hasn’t done anything yet (other than hurt his hamstring) and won’t sign a contract until Andre Smith signs his.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 27, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Russell
It just goes to show how smart our Raider fans really are. I’ll always LOVE the silver and black attack, but Russell has a lot to prove. I don’t just blame him, he had some good games last year. Everyone says how he can toss the ball 80 yards from his knees, but I didn’t see him go over 15 last year. If Cable and the coaching staff will open it up more and let this guy fling it, we just might see great things from our big QB this year!! After all, that’s what Raider football is all about!! Long live Raider Nation!!!
bloodelf
by bloodelf77@yahoo.com on Jul 27, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions
bay area....
So we got Samson Satele for nothing he started all 16 games and Ronnie Brown was pretty effective and Samson had something to do with that….This is his 3rd year starting all 32 games all rookie team his first year and now ready to break out with the motivation of the “Black Hole” this Pacific Islander should be bangin holes for Run Dmc and Co….
They hate to love us....R A I D E R-N A T I O N....
by NATION OF DOMINATION on Jul 28, 2009 12:17 AM PDT reply actions
Raiders will be a Better Team
Camp will bring about some real improvement this year. I believe JaMarcus will play with more confidence, he now has been in the fire and knows what to expect. As The Raider Way mentioned, he showed vast improvement over the last two games of the season and for JaMarcus it had to boost his confidence to end the season on a positive note.
The Raiders are the only team in the Division next to San Diego that have some stability in the Coach, the key will be schemes and play calling that are not predictable. The talent is there, we just need the team to play together as a single unit, the Defense needs to play smash mouth football, on defense they really need to stick someone. I was hoping the Raiders would consider bringing Derrick Brooks in to add leadership to the Linebacking corps.
You guys may not light this, but I am going to say it anyway, I believe Garcia at 39 and at the very end of his career should at least allow the Raiders to consider Michael Vick as a potential backup, Vick knows he won’t start coming in and should JaMarcus go down we have someone that is only 29 years old with speed and not 39 years old and ready to retire. And being that I am born and raised in East Oakland, let me say this. If you don’t like dog fighting, and I don;’t personally condone it, he paid his debt and did his time, if Vick wears the Silver and Black, you come to Oakland at your own risk trying to protest on our turf, that would be a far bigger mistake than Vicks involvement in any dog fighting. Oakland is a City of blue collar hard working rough necks that can care less about your personal feelings when it comes to the Raiders. If you root for Denver in Oakland your entire family had better be wearing Silver and Black and have you surrounded. Oakland is a different kind of place with a reputation for touchness, the City that is, so long time Raider fans are really used to having players that are lets say less than civil.
I know many of you have your feelings about this, I just wanted to address it. I would Love for Mike Vick to be a Raider. We will be tougher and quite frankly I expect us to surprise many teams this year. Look San Diego is a very good team the best in the west for now, however, getting rid of Michael Turner really hurt their depth. If we can split with them we can win this Division seriously. We should sweep Denver and KC. This year we have a real opporunity to win and win big.
by Rodney Sacramento on Jul 28, 2009 7:25 AM PDT reply actions
The SAM Battle
I think the Raiders need more competition at the SAM backer position; i dont think Alston, Williams, and draft pick Norris have enough to compete. why not try a pro bowl caliber linebacker in Derrick Brooks he’s still out there just waiting to play and that also gives them experience on the defense that morrison and howard and the rest of the squad needs
Derrick Brooks, Michael Vick
I am in agreement that Derrick Brooks would be a great addition to the Raiders, as well as Vick as the number 3 behind Garcia as Jeff is at the end of his career. I know the Vick controversy is very political but in the hell cares about that, we are the Raiders. And i don’t think Vick could hurt our team in any way.
Any other opinions on this?
by Rodney Sacramento on Jul 29, 2009 5:27 AM PDT reply actions
Training Camp!!!
I don’t know that people are still writing on here, however, I have got mad respect for Coach Cable, he deserves the props…He is focusing strictly on the mental part of the game the first 5 days, that is incredible. Well, let me break this down, most players, especially new players to the team, rookies and quite frankly many veterans don’t study to a point of knowing exactly where they are supposed to be. Coach Cable has the foresight to have the entire team working on only that aspect, no pads, no hitting, no throwing, no touching, just application of the plays. Observing foot work, placement, its brilliant.
The Raiders, are going to be a better team this year, and with Paul Hackett coaching the Quarterbacks we may just surprise some teams. I have been talking about the play calling not being predictable and the need for better execution, well, Coach Cable is well on his way to being able to call a play that is properly run, and when a play is executed properly you achieve the desired result.
The fact that there is a focus on the mental game team wise will help tremendously in the Raiders execution. I am very pleased with Coach Cables concept. Qute frankly, this is a major relief, the Raiders will have a fighting chance if players know what they are supposed to do.
by Rodney Sacramento on Aug 1, 2009 8:08 PM PDT reply actions

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