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Post-Game Thread: Preseason Week 1 - Dallas vs. Oakland


With over 400 comments in the game thread I thought I'd put up a post game thread for everyone to discuss their thoughts about the game. Here are a few of my initial thoughts.

First Team Offense

It was nice to see Russell have a good two-drive game, going 6/9 for 50 yards. Russell's favorite target was obviously Chaz Schilens, who caught 5 balls for 52 yards and also set up a big defensive pass interference call with another pass attempt. I was surprised that Zach Miller's number wasn't called even once. I guess the Raiders already know they have that connection in their pocket whenever they need it. The running game looked alright, even though Fargas' only touch was to get stuffed in the red zone (he won't be there in the regular season). As expected, McFadden and Bush looked much more dynamic and will take a lot of touches away from Fargas this season. Also, except for the one sack, the offensive line looked pretty solid, even without Robert Gallery.

At the end of the day though, it was deja vu all over again to see the Raiders at the 2 yard line and settle for a field goal.

First Team Defense

First drive - fantastic. Tight coverage on the outside, some pressure from the defensive line, and a quick 3 and out. Second drive - WTF? John Marshall was lucky I'm in Florida as he utilized the classic Rob Ryan 3-man rush with the frickin' DT in coverage in the red zone. Result - TD Romo to Witten. I was screaming at the TV.  Thankfully the TV booth team was criticizing the defensive call as well, so I felt vindicated. Overall I was pleased with their performance.

Second/Third Team Offense

This is where the game got out of hand for the Cowboys. They had no answer for either Gradkowski or Frye, who were consistently hitting receivers, highlighted by Nick Miller's big grab. Nor did the Cowboys have an answer for Louis Rankin, who always impresses in trainingcamp/preseason and hopefully can get a shot on another team this season.

Second/Third Team Defense

The second and third string back 7 looked pretty good, and we can only hope Ekejiuba is alright. Slade Norris had his nose in a lot of plays. The backup defensive tackles looked OK as well, and William Joseph was getting some consistent pressure. I was disappointed not to see Matt Shaughnessy apply a bit more pressure on Kitna and McGee. He got stood up a few times when he tried to bull rush, and didn't seem to have a great move repetoire.

 

All in all, it felt amazing to be watching Raiders football again, and the Raiders should take this preseason victory and continue to build on the foundation of returing to greatness. Your thoughts S&BP?

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I thought the offense looked good. But, the run defense was horrible!

by DonBui on Aug 14, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions  

I was hoping for more from Stanford Routt.

After his performance, I am scared thinking of the nickel package, and I am praying for no CB injuries.

It was great to see DHB be effective while only catching one- he was double teamed frequently. This is going to help everyone else on the field.

I was satisfied with the receivers as a group. Chaz looked great and I think Murphy showed he is going to be an NFL receiver for years to come.

Russell seemed sharp and was playing fast. But for the love of god look off the safeties!

I am reserving judgment on the D as Routt was so horrible it was hard to tell how the rest of the guys, who will get the majority of the pt, performed.

Marshall is going to have to be more aggressive, which is something I am not hopeful about. Romo had too much time.

Too many penalties. Will this ever not be a problem?

Wherever I go, that's where I am.

by Rich Langford on Aug 14, 2009 11:27 AM PDT reply actions  

i think our offense looked great!

but our D didn’t play that well. Cowboys have a stron O, though, so no worries yet…loved the ricky brown blitz!

gradkowski looked great. frye didnt look too bad either…either ways, if Russell goes down, Garcia then Gradkowski/Frye is gonna be a lot better than Walter/Tui.

Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!

by naq92 on Aug 14, 2009 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

right now

if garcia can’t play when russel is down, i’d rather have gradkowski because he seemed to do a good job leadin the offense.

russel looked poised in the pocket, and seemed to make some brady-like extra steps to get extra time. he led the offense really well. i think the only thing he needs to work on are picking up blitzes and improving accuracy.

by patriotguy2 on Aug 14, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

ya, i definitely wouldnt mind

having gradkowski over garcia at this point. especially if we have to worry about garcia being injury prone too…

i think russell looked a lot better than what most expected him to look. a couple long throws were underthrown, but overall a good day.

Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!

by naq92 on Aug 14, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Penalties Were A Problem

Cooper Carlisle really pissed me off with his two penalties and the big one in the red zone which cost us a TD.

R.I.P - Michael Jackson

by Rayder K on Aug 14, 2009 12:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, getting called for holding on a run play is inexcusable.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 14, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was exactly the Opposite

Of what we tried to work on in Training Camp.

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on Aug 14, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing for Higgins either?

And Z Miller wasn’t even in the box score. Did he even play a snap? Anybody hear anything about Nmandi’s heel?

by dram5780 on Aug 14, 2009 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Here is the post game report.

Eighteen players caught at least one pass for the Raiders. Coincidentally, tight end Zach Miller wasn’t one of those with a reception, and he led the Raiders in receiving last season.
Russell played well in his two series, which was somewhat surprising given how poorly he looked Tuesday in back-to-back practices.
Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha played only one series because he sustained a heel injury. Linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba (shoulder) and center John Wade (shoulder) also got hurt and missed time.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 14, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I read that.

Just wondering if there was anything new about Nnandi. Don’t know how serious a bruised heel can be. Doesn’t sound bad but neither does Turf Toe. I guess the team has today off so maybe we’ll know more tommorrow. And could someone please tell me what a stinger is beside a drink with Brandy and Creme de Menthe?

by dram5780 on Aug 14, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am guessing that a bruised heel...

when you are the star of the team, hurts a lot more in the preseason than it is in the regular season.

Wherever I go, that's where I am.

by Rich Langford on Aug 14, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

David White has thoughts on last night’s game.

The Raiders said they want to pass the ball more, and they did — 18 times in 28 offensive plays in the first half.

They also said they want to blitz the quarterback more, and they did — four times in the first four possessions.
** JaMarcus Russell is getting so much better at throwing short- and intermediate range passes, going 6 of 6 for 50 yards in those categories in almost an entire quarter of play.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 14, 2009 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

i'd like to see russel play at least an entire half like brady

he’ll be more ready for the season, and get more reps and continue to improve.

by patriotguy2 on Aug 14, 2009 3:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Improved Schemes, Better Blocking, and a preseason Win

Win Will help the Raiders as they move forward, as I mentioned when a team has been losing, preseason wins are relative, it helps build confidence and makes them want to go out and do it again. Mc Fad is the kid we drated and showed it, C Schilens (Chill) from now on lol proved himself to be worthy at receiver, with both size and speed the need for a knucklehead like Mike Crabtree was not necessary, Oh by the way C Chill is 6’4" 225, he is bigger, faster, and stronger and catching everything. DHB is a younster and you could see J Russ will need to get used to his speed, time will fix that, but they are going to create problems.

Our blitz packages looked good, and the D has improved, of course they will get even better, and they will need to, there is still a lot of room for improvement in our run D, however, it is important we keep winning preseason games, just for team confidence. My hope is the Raiders stay the course, I know with the win over Dallas they will be working to win again.

Now, 1st preseason game penalties, we will have to get that under control to win in this league, and i know the Raiders will focus on that. From a preseason standpoint I give the Raiders a preseason score of A- on this game for winning, capitalizing on Dallas’ mistakes, scoring touchdowns when they were suppose to and for a running game that is going to try the best defenses in the league.

They did a pretty good job at being competitive and I expect to see more improvement as preseason continues.

by Rodney Sacramento on Aug 14, 2009 3:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Stinger injury

A stinger is an intensely painful nerve injury. The nerves that give feeling to the arms and hands originate from the neck/spinal cord. The injury often happens when a player makes a hard hit using his shoulder. The direct blow to the top of the shoulder drives it down and causes the neck to bend toward the opposite side. This motion severely stretches or compresses the nerves and triggers an intense discharge of electricity for a lack of a better way to explain it. But they hurt, very painful. It numbs your arms, hands and fingers, but if and when you get your feeling back you can go back in the game. Its kind of scary sometimes.

    Jeff Fuller for the 49ers in the 80’s had permanent damage to these nerves and lost use of his arm.

by Rodney Sacramento on Aug 14, 2009 4:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Chadz Schilens

Looked Super Amazing.

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on Aug 14, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

naw

just wanted to watch the jets game.
watching it now though.

by patriotguy2 on Aug 14, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol I meant I would like info on said link.

Are you watching on the channelsurfing.net link listed below? Is that free?

Wherever I go, that's where I am.

by Rich Langford on Aug 14, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep

and the jets defense doesn’t look very fearful right now.

by patriotguy2 on Aug 14, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Try this

Try Justin.TV next game. Don’t think they do replays though.

Thanks to Rated-R for the hook up.

by dram5780 on Aug 14, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oooops.

Didn’t see the channelsurfing.net link. They might be better than Justin.TV

by dram5780 on Aug 14, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ive been using the justin.tv

It works brilliantly very easy to use and navigate as well

"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell

by Ozraider on Aug 14, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Overall View

Without getting into all the technical stuff regarding defense and offense performances, what pleased me most was the attitude that the whole team showed. To me, you almost feel the change coming from the TV. I think we finally got the players and coaches the play on the same sheet of music. I know there were things we could have done better in numerous areas,but what it most important is the the team believes in the staff and they believe that we do have a good team! If we carry that attitude into the beginning of the season, you could see a team that can exceed even the most generous expectations! I know it is just the first preseason game, but I am more excited about our season than I have been ever before! Prediction-we beat SD at home on opening day!!!!!! Go Raider Nation!

by G-MAN IN BRK on Aug 14, 2009 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

I loved D-Mac's Long Run

Looked a lot like the one in week 2 but, he needs to find the end zone.

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on Aug 14, 2009 4:56 PM PDT reply actions  

hey

should i dump maroney and morris as my bench players, for michael bush and chaz schilens on my fantasy team?

by patriotguy2 on Aug 14, 2009 7:09 PM PDT reply actions  

def on chaz

"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell

by Ozraider on Aug 14, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

okay so i'll get chaz and dump maroney

what role do you think bush will play and should i get him and dump morris? would bush be a #2 back?

by patriotguy2 on Aug 14, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

theres probably not a lot of demand for bush

so i would wait until he gets announced as the starter and hurry like hell to get him.

Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!

by naq92 on Aug 14, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would take Bush

but I am a homer, I’ve heard that the NE backs havent looked great. Take bush before he becomes the starter because if you wait you risk losing him all together he will get a good share of goal line carries and will get more carries in total Bush is likely to be at least the second back where Morris is the third back on their roster behind maroney and Taylor. Just as with last year Morris only has real value if the Pats have injuries.

I cant see Morris getting many carries other than on the Goal line

"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell

by Ozraider on Aug 15, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

good point, i think i'll get him

besides, i don’t think anyone would go for morris.

by patriotguy2 on Aug 15, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looks much worst on Paper

Raiders penalties vs. Cowboys
Cooper Carlisle, holding, 10 yards
Stanford Routt, defensive holding, 10 yards
Seth Wand, false start, 5 yards
Tyvon Branch, holding, 10 yards (special teams)
Samson Satele, tripping, 8 yards
William Joseph, encroachment, 5 yards
Paul McQuistan, holding, 10 yards
Michael Huff, pass interference, 5 yards
Brandon Myers, offsides, 5 yards
Jason Horton, pass interference, 5 yards
Jason Horton, pass interference, 5 yards
Brandon Myers, illegal shift, 5 yards
Darrell Strong, holding, 10 yards
Jason Horton, pass interference, 16 yards

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on Aug 14, 2009 10:10 PM PDT reply actions  

This Is Missing

Some false starts

R.I.P - Michael Jackson

by Rayder K on Aug 14, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Looked bad enough

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on Aug 15, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure Horton was called for an illegal hands to the face and holding instead a pass interference on the first two penalties against him.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 14, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry To Include The Source

I got them from Jerry McDonald here:http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/08/14/cable-wants-raiders-feeling-low/

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on Aug 14, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dam It

 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/08/14/cable-wants-raiders-feeling-low/

Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.

by nishal26 on Aug 14, 2009 11:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Team chemistry

This team’s attitude has greatly improved. From all indications the ‘Nation" will have a lot to cheer about. Also, Bush and McFadden should be on the field more often, without a doubt. The verdict is still out on our run-defence’s capabilities and schemes.

by Realtooreal on Aug 15, 2009 7:08 AM PDT reply actions  

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