The Starting MLB in 2009, Ricky Brown?!?
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According to Jerry Mcdonald's blog, Tom Cable has begun considering permanently moving Ricky Brown to the Middle Linebacker spot to move Kirk Morrison outside. link
Inside of the article, Tom Cable admits to thinking about the idea of having Ricky Brown start in the middle and althogh training camp is young, Ricky Brown has been getting a significant amount of reps in the middle. He's been taking some reps there since the OTA's in may.
I know even before Ricky Brown started getting reps at MLB there were many on this blog that believed that K.Morrison was much better suited playing OLB to help utilize his speed and coverage skills better.
This still begs the question, will the 2009 Raiders play better w/ Ricky Brown in the middle and Kirk morrison on the outside? How will this affect our run defense? Could this move translate into more wins? lemme know, what do all you guys think.
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Ricky Brown should only be starting if Kirk Morrison is starting on the outside as well. If not, it’s just not worth having Kirk Morrison off the field.
Starting Brown with Jon Alston and Thomas Howard ensures that we would have the worst starting linebackers in the NFL.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 4, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions
i agree
perhaps i didn’t word it right but i would never put in Ricky Brown INSTEAD of Kirk Morrison. but maybe Morrison on the outside will contribute more to the team?
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
That’s the only way I would do it. I’d go out and sign Derrick Brooks, but working with what we have, I don’t mind Brown in the middle with Morrison on the outside. Either way, with what we have, one person between Brown and Alston has to start.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 4, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s no question Morrison would be starting, it’s just whether he’ll be inside or outside. Don’t even think that they might bench him for Alston because Morrison is probably the best tackler on the team.
Morrison
I don’t think we’d take Morrison off the field completely. That would just be defence suicide!! Both are good players who NEED to be out there. But stranger things have happened.
sunelf77
Morrison will never
be off the (baring injury) Brown only starts at Mike if Kirk starts at Sam
The future is uncertain... and the end is always near. JMorrison
Nowhere does it say that Brown would play INSTEAD of Morrison
it just says Morrison would play outside of Brown.
I personally think the more versatile and the more differant looks we can throw on Defence the better.
I dont see why you have to say he’s a Middle and Hes a Outside and that’s it if they can move around then move them around and give the opposition QB’s another thing to have to think about it especially with Kirk as he is a player that QB’s have to account for on every play.
Basically I doubt that either player will player either position exclusively.
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
Neither Brown playing instead of Morrison nor Morrison playing on the outside has been set in stone. Right now, I think they’re just playing around with where they can possibly utilize everyone’s talents to the fullest extent.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 4, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
thx for totally getting my point across
Morrison’s on the outside, Rickey Brown in the middle. I guess i should’ve been more careful with my wording with such a complex scenario ; )
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
The simple truth is that Morrison is not a great MLB
He is very fast, closes to the ball well but does not disrupt anything from that position.
Can Brown be better, no idea but I think he will probably clog the middle up better than Morrison and apparently Cable thinks the same. Brown is not nearly as good in pass coverage and ill suited to play outside, Morrison is excellent there and should be outside.
I think this is one of the better ideas Cable has come up with. A team needs a MLB to clog up the middle, disrupt plays and tackle with some ferocity. Morrison does none of those things.
whoever is faster should move to the outside
speed is always key to OLB for pursuing and pass rushing.
also what happened to greg ellis?
isn’t ellis supposed to start on OLB opposite of thomas howard?
that's only in the 3-4
but before that, he played DE in a 4-3 system, which i’ve heard he feels more comfortable playing.
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
ah
so is DE his role this year? I think they should switch to 3-4 every now and then to get the most out of all their LB talent. If it doesn’t work then I would rather have kirk because if you have 4 guys pass rushing then you need a good pass covering LB in the middle with good awareness of the field around him.
I have to admit though, i don’t know much about ricky brown though, and reading Laoren’s post, I think kirk will do well on the outside as well, if brown is as good as laoren says he says, then i think brown should play middle and kirk on the outside.
well, i think brown has earned the trust of tom cable
sounds like he’s real high on him. i’m pretty sure morrison must be faster than Brown, which is why i think moving morrison to the outside might not be such a bad idea.
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
as long as there won't be any feud between
kirk and cable.
That would suck
But, Highly improbably cuz they got tooo much respect for each other
Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.
A bulked up Alston
could be a sleeper LB as well it will be interesting to see
The future is uncertain... and the end is always near. JMorrison
I don’t really like Jon Alston starting. Ricky Brown playing in the middle with Kirk Morrison and Thomas Howard on the outside is the way to go in my opinion. I’ll include a poll in tomorrow’s post.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 4, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions
based on last year, i don't want alston starting either
but i’ve heard he’s bulked up a little and looks quicker. maybe he can platoon with ricky brown so they both stay fresh??
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
I don’t know the rotation will or would work, but I assume that Alston and Sam Williams would be the first two linebackers off the bench.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 4, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Slade
What about Norris. 4th round players have paid off in the past. (not always for us, but it happens)
sunelf77
if he shows he's ready.
but he might need some time to develop
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
my guess on Slade
is special teams this year
The future is uncertain... and the end is always near. JMorrison
not to nit-pic, but I was just saying having Morrison off the field was bad in response to Rated-R’s first comment “…it’s just not worth having Kirk Morrison off the field.”
sunelf77
Yeah I think we all agree that having Morrison on the field as much as possible
is pretty important.
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
Although I haven't checked with Rated-R......
Kirk may work too hard and be too team orientated for him, Does does anyone know if Crabtree can play any Linebacker? ;)
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
He was one of the best
LB’s in the NFL in 06 I think or 07.
Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.
were those the years he held out
because they wouldn’t serve him an extra desert?
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
*dessert
"Mel Kiper has his opinion and I respect it. But what does it mean? My 9-year-old nephew can watch film and make an opinion. I think I value the opinion of scouts who get paid to make their opinions. It will carry me through my career. It will serve as motivation for me." - Mike Mitchell
Having Morrison and Howard on the outside is a great idea.
They can both cover and blitz well. The qb would never know who to look for blitzing and who is dropping in coverage. If Brown can play a competent mlb then I say go for it. Either way, if the run D is going to improve the DT’s need to step it up, so whomever plays at mlb can make some plays on some rb’s!
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
personally
i have no idea. but we know that kirk morrison has played on the outside before.
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
Looks like he played middle his last couple of years at Boston College
He started as outside and moved to the middle there as well. This move is starting to sound better and better
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
Well, the move isn’t official.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 4, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
No, it's not...
but I am more hopefull of this as a possibility now. I like you think this would give us the best possible starting LB’s with our current players. That is, if Brown can handle the middle at all. I am nervous about the D’s ability to stop the run. You?
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
I only want Brown to start at middle linebacker if Morrison is starting on the outside.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Aug 5, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
good deal.
thx for looking that up. i’m interested to see what kind of a difference it’ll make for our run defense. if any.
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
if he came from BC, then brown should be a great LB.
BC recently started developing great LB’s, so i’m confident in brown, and he should be good against the run because bc’s defense i think is to defend against the run first and pass second.
If Worst Comes To Worse
I wouldn’t mind Kirk playing MLB again this year. I mean come on, he is not that bad.
R.I.P - Michael Jackson
It's more about
where he is best suited for our D, not about how bad he played because he didn’t.
Although if our D-line plays better it will make who ever plays MLB look better.
The future is uncertain... and the end is always near. JMorrison
forgetful
Don’t forget Thomas Howard in this trio. Not a bad situation to be in for us..
"It's the small things in life....and football."
Thomas Howard
Is really good not much mistakes from him however he did commit a huge one against the Bucs.
Amazing, Jamarcus Russell hands off to McFadden who pitches it back to Russell who finds Darrius Heyward Bey in the Middle of the Field wide open 30, 20,10,5 Touchdown Raiders! Amazing. This telecast is Brought to you by Cable.
i dont think
anyone forgot him. there’s just no reason to move him. and the raiders front office hasn’t even thought about it. he’s there to stay, he fits his spot perfectly.
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
Morrison
Was pretty dang good at outside linebacker his rookie year when Danny Clark played inside, so good idea.
where's Danny Clark at now
New York Giants??
i used to love that guy
Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up!!
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