My Thoughts on What the Raiders Need to Do
by KA1Z3R on Sep 28, 2009 2:41 PM PDT
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It's no secret the Raiders are in a complete tailspin right now. Don't argue otherwise, after a great game against SD, the Raiders have given up over 140 yards rushing to the Chiefs and over 200 to the Broncos. Which shows Marshall's offseason plan of working on discipline has fallen apart and that it's not just discipline but the personnel. Basically what ever Raiders fan has been saying since 2003.
The passing game, I can't really say anything since Schilens is a big difference maker in the passing game because he's a comfort zone on the scale of Miller for Russell. But in all honesty, Russell should be comfortable with guys like Murphy and DHB after a whole offseason working with them.
Running game? Not enough of it and misuse of the backs' respective talents. Also, the lack of a passing game is ruining what should be a top-5 rushing attack.
Pass D, this falls on run D. When you're first and second instincts are to rush to the line to tackle a back, of course you're going to slip in coverage. In no way is this a personnel problem, other than that there should be some better nickel and dime corners, but I won't dwell on that.
So how do I think the Raiders can remedy their ailments, read on to find out.
Passing Game
Like I said, we'll wait to see how this looks when Russell gets Schilens back this week. Until then, this can still be worked on. All it comes down to is Russell, if he really cared about winning then he'd have taken time from his apparently busy day to work with the receivers after practice and on off-days.
After all, this is what successful QB's do. You think Rodgers magically got amazing with his receivers overnight? He had to work on it, he had to get his timing down.
Now let's stop right there, what exactly do people mean when they say timing? It simply means learning where the receiver will be at what point on every single play. Sticking with the Green Bay example, Jennings is clearly a faster receiver at this point than Driver. So he'll be farther in his route than Driver will be at, say, 5 seconds into the play. Learning the speed, agility, and acceleration abilities of your receivers is a big factor.
Another part of timing is knowing where to throw it to each receiver. Unless it's a curl or screen, you always throw the ball in front of where the receiver is, aka where he's going to be instead of where he is. However, you have to know how fast the receiver will be running to know how far ahead of them to throw. Throw it to far ahead and they won't catch up to it, throw it behind and they'll have to somehow stop and go back to it.
I've read plenty of articles about guys like Peyton Manning, Donovan McNabb, etc who's receivers have talked of how those QB's have pulled them and the other receivers aside to work on extra passing practice and to watch film on how each guy runs and moves.
If Russell wants to be successful, he has to be willing to work at it. His mechanics and footwork are problems, but timing to me is the one thing he should be good at by now.
If he isn't willing to work at it, then he clearly needs to be off this team. To anybody who says that's too harsh or I'm Russell bashing, I have to restrain myself from buying a plane ticket, going to where you live, and screaming in your face.
Plain and simple, if Russell isn't motivated enough to work on his craft, to work with receivers, and basically do some work for once, then bench him for the year and draft a QB next year. This is the plan I'd like. He's gotten much worse this year despite having much better receivers and pass protection. So it's not anybody at WR or on the O-Line (not even Green who is actually a great blocker this year) it's just Russell.
Cable (cough I mean Davis) clearly doesn't want to admit that Russell is quite plainly, a lazy pouty kid and therefore refuses to bench him. Gradkowski is actually motivated and has his mechanics figured out. Timing will come when he actually starts.
I've defended Russell for too long, but until he gets his act together, if he ever does, I'm hoping for Gradkowski to start and for this guy to be our first round pick next year:
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Running Game
I'd like to see how the running game plays out when, which means if, the passing game gets put together. Till then, this facet of the offense can be worked on.
For one thing, don't just mix up your running backs, mix up your running plays. Instead of changing it every drive, change it with each couple plays. Then again, a couple plays is usually the extent of a Raiders drive.
What I mean though is, pound it up the middle, then go off tackle to the left side, try to pound it between the left guard and center, then go for a sweep to the right when the D is focused on that left side, maybe even misdirection it to the left on that sweep play. Just because you've dumbed the passing game down for Russell, doesn't mean he isn't capable of handing it off on a misdirection or throwing a pitch.
After all, Russell isn't this man:
Just because you're unable to mix up the passing game, doesn't mean this should simplify the running game. If you watch the great running teams in this league like the Ravens or the Giants, they're constantly diversifying their running attacks. The O-Line is blocking very well and the backs can run very well. Just a simple matter of fixing up your playcalling.
Speaking of those backs, let's talk about how to properly use McFadden and Bush since it makes Cable cry to actually have to think.
McFadden is a speed guy, and though he should definitely be developed to be able to do so, he's not a guy you should be using to pound it up the middle every play. We'll get to that runner in a minute.
Use McFadden's speed to execute plays you couldn't execute with Bush. Hand it off to him in the shotgun; the defense will be spread out and McFadden has the speed to get out of the backfield before the defense gets there. Run stretch plays with him. You have athletic O-Linemen who can move to wherever the run is going to create a path for Mcfadden to blast it outside and turn the corner. Same goes for sweep plays, especially since O'Neal is your lead blocker.
The only time I'd use Mcfadden to go up the middle is if you have three or four WR's on the field to spread the defense out and leave room in the middle for Mcfadden to burst through. Actually, if you've been running all these stretches and pitches, the defense should already be spread out to watch the sides, thus allowing you to keep a lead blocker for the middle runs.
Mcfadden needs to work on tough running and holding onto the ball, but he's a hard working guy so I'm not worried about that.
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First of all, you should actually run this guy. More so than McFadden. Bush is a much tougher runner, can pound it up the middle like Cable likes to do, and he's actually pretty fast.
And like I said, he can pound it up the middle. If Cable is so in love with running up the middle, at least use the guy who's 245 pounds and stronger than most linebackers not named Ray Lewis. Plus he can do a lot of the off-tackle running I mentioned earlier. Give him some chances on those runs in between the guard and tackle because Bush is capable of getting out of the backfield decently quickly. Bush can easily find the holes, fire through them, and keep pushing forward.
In a league where it's all about the fight for every inch, you should the put the guy in who fight for every foot.
An interesting theory I've come up with when looking over a lot of film of teams running the ball, I came about something rather interesting. The Giants run Brandon Jacobs from the shotgun frequently.
Why are we not doing this with Bush? He's a tough runner much like Jacobs, and he's actually quite a bit faster. If Jacobs can get out of the shotgun backfield before the defense gets there, what's stopping Bush from doing it even better?
Play to the strengths of your backs, and experiment with stuff like Bush from the shotgun or McFadden in short-yardage when it's during a reasonable point in the game.
Running Defense
I love defense, I love it so much that people have told me that I would be a great defensive coordinator, and this is at age 14 close to 15. And if there's one thing I focus on more than anything else, it's the run defense.
Kinda makes you wonder why I root for a team that does so horribly at what I love most.
And though I probably could be a good D-coordinator, even I couldn't make this team a top-20 run defense in the state it's in.
Two reasons why:
- Personnel
- Lack of an offense to offer a break for the defense
But we're here to focus on #1 more than #2. Kirk Morrison is not a good middle linebacker by any means. He's not strong enough, he doesn't fill the gaps well enough, he doesn't see the field well enough. Put him outside where he only has to watch half the field and where is speed is better suited for outside runs, after all it work for Oakland's very own Thomas Howard. aka the only linebacker I'd keep at his current role on this team if I coached it.
Kelly and Warren have definitely gotten better thanks to Ellis and Seymour, but neither is the nose tackle this team sorely lacks. Look at Minnesota, 3-0 and they have two of the best nose tackles in the league starting.
Brown, I honestly don't know why he's not more successful. He's fast, the same size as Morrison (actually a little heavier I believe), so it must be the same problem Morrison has. He doesn't fill gaps and doesn't do a good job seeing the field.
Ellis and Seymour are perfectly fine, as are the safeties and corners. Especially since Asomugha and Chris Johnson who are two of the finest tacklers at the cornerback position that I've seen all year.
So what to do? Get a nose tackle, hopefully via the draft, and change Warren to a pass rush specialist. Why not Kelly? Kelly's actually been pretty okay for me. He's better than Warren's been and I wouldn't risk taking him off the field if the defense decides to pull a fast one and throw the ball.
Now what exactly do I mean by nose tackle?
Take a good long look at the following pictures:
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What you just saw are three of the finest examples of nose tackles in the league, Pat Williams of the Vikings, Casey Hampton of the Steelers, and Haloti Ngata of the Ravens. What stands out other than that these guys are incredibly great players?
They're big yes. But if you look at the size of the shoulders, arms, thighs, and though none of the pictures shows it, the legs, you have to be a muscle man. It's not as simple as getting a 350 pound guy, you need a DT who is strong and capable of throwing the athletic freaks that are the guards and centers of the NFL, to the ground. Nose tackles are guys that can clog the holes, and move O-Linemen so that other holes disappear.
Another thing, and this is Cable's most tired excuse, pad level. He's said it a thousand times, but it's true. You have to be low. DT's have to be low enough that when the ball is snapped they can get under the pads of the O-Linemen and make it harder for them to not only block you, but to push forward. It's easier to push when you're bent down, than it is to be standing upright.
How low are we talking? Take it away my man Ngata.
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Though admittedly, even he could get a lower if he used a four-point stance. But for DT's that like to get some extra burst on the snap, that's the perfect stance.
In regards to the linebackers, Morrison must be moved to the outside after this season or do some serious bulking up and work on his ability to scan the field and react accordingly. But if the latter doesn't happen, it's time to draft a middle linebacker. if the latter happens but the former doesn't, draft a better outside linebacker than Brown. if you have that much trouble reading and reacting to only half the field then you're not going to get better any time soon.
The proper middle linebacker has to be big (about 250 or 240 if the linebacker can react and tackle quickly), have the strength of a defensive end in a 3-4 (meaning a 265 to 275 pound man), and be able to play the middle zone. Morrison fits the last part of that perfectly and is great in man coverage, but his reaction skills and strength are the issue. So what's the ideal middle linebacker look like?
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EJ Henderson of the Vikings, James Farrior of the Steelers, and Antonio Pierce of the Giants. All are guys who can get through the holes on the O-Line to make the tackles, won't get held up for very long; if at all; by fullbacks, and are fast enough to play the middle zone and even play some man. Notice here, big shoulders, well built abdominals, and bulky legs.
All I can suggest for the linebackers is simply wait till next year and hope you can draft someone like Brandon Spikes or a guy that fits the mold of these three players.
So in all reality, the run defense is so broken this year, that it can't really be fixed until next year.
Pass Defense
Really, there's nothing wrong here. The run defense just makes these guys so hesitant to move away from the line of scrimmage that it makes them slow to react to the pass. The pass defense will return to its proper top-10 position once the run defense can stop giving up nearly 200 yards to the likes of Correl Buckhalter.
Now then, I beg and plead to you, the readers of this post, to ask Tyvon Branch to read this article, print out two or three copies, and give one to each of Tom Cable, Al Davis, and JaMarcus Russell. I can guarantee that all of these will translate to success, because it's worked for teams like Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Giants, Jets, etc. Plain and simple, these things work and have worked for just about every team in the league.
If these things don't happen, at least we'll be assured a chance at Brandon Spikes or Colt McCoy. At this point, I feel confident in saying that 3-13 is an incredibly likely record for this year.
Final Note: I ask that anybody that reads and agrees with this rec's this post. The more recs that it gets, maybe the more Tyvon Branch will see how mad we fans are and be more convinced to print this for Cable and Davis.
Wishful thinking I know, but at this point, wishing is all I can do for this team.
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I'll bet if we go back and look at fan posts about 3 or 4 years ago
we’ll be looking at the same issues regarding the team, just with different players and coaches. I’m having a hard time seeing where the improvements have been made. I see guys with upside and potential, but I don’t know how much different that has been than in years past. Unless issues with the organization are addressed, I think stagnation will be the theme for a while.
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by S Jay Bruin on Sep 28, 2009 2:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's Get Real!
The problem here is not every single problem listed by so many posts.
It is a construction problem. No design, no purpose, no foundation.
If you look at the teams that are successful, you will notice the foundation of those teams are always at the line of scrimmage. The O-line and D-line is where it all starts and finishes.
No QB, RB, WR, or TE has had consistent success without an outstanding O-line. (Barry Sanders was good, but no rings)
What about the shut down defenses in the league. They all can stuff the run and put pressure on the QB from where? The secondary? I don’t think so!
Upfront is where it all happens. The Line of Scrimmage.
Football is a game of inches.
If you start measuring the Raiders Offense in inches, perhaps their stats would look a lot better.
So forget about Colt McCoy and get some “football players” and not athletes.
I don’t care what you can do at the combine or how many trophies and accolades you have.
What can you do on the field?
by R8rnation on Sep 28, 2009 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THESE PLAYERS NEED TO BE BENCHED
THESE 3 PLAYERS J RUSSELL , MACFADDENN, AND HEYWERD-BEY NEED TO SIT OUTNEXT WEEK. WE NEED A QB WHO CAN THROW , A RUNNING BACK WHO DOESNT FUMBLE AND A WR WHO CAN CATCH. OK, BRING GRADGORSKI AT QB, BUSH/FARGAS/AND THE FB FOR RUNNING GAME. BRING IN HIGGINS, JAVON WALKER WITH MURPHY. Z MILLER IS FINE AT TEND AND O LINE NEEDS MORE PRACTICE TOGETHER. THUS A WIN AT HOUSTON. RICH GANNON WAS 100% CORRECT ABOUT RUSSELL AND GANNON TOLD ALL WHAT HE SEES . MAYBE GANNON SHOULD BE THE QB COACH! GANNON WAS A PERFECTIONIST BUT HE GOT THE RAIDERS TO GO TO THE SUPERBOWL! PLEASE BENCH THIS 3 PLAYERS AND HAVE MACFADDENN CARRY A FOOTBALL ALL WEEK INCLUDING SLEEPING.
by sports with steve on Sep 28, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What We "Need"
WE NEED A QB WHO CAN THROW , A RUNNING BACK WHO DOESNT FUMBLE AND A WR WHO CAN CATCH.
You’re out of luck, then, aren’t you?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 28, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's out of luck but he does have plenty of CAPITAL LETTERS
by sirbed on Sep 28, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
definately some STRONG OPINIONS :)
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by Ozraider on Sep 29, 2009 5:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you see that button marked CAPS LOCK?
tap it once then continue typing, thanks.
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by mikesd1981 on Sep 29, 2009 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
heyward-bay has had some great catches when russell made the occasional decent throw. Mcfadden is a great back, I don’t know what happened but that happens to all backs. Ronnie brown just did that last week, he fumbled right before he was about to score, and he is a great back
by the bay area on Sep 29, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DHB only has 1 Catch for 17 yards
….so unless you’re confusing DHB for Murphy, then no, DHB has not made SOME great catches.
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by SBcitizen on Sep 29, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Decisions, decisions....
We HAD a quarterback in Jeff Garcia. No, he wasn’t the long term solution, but at least he had a clue about being a QB in the NFL. Russell has shown that he’s a fat slob who only cares about getting a paycheck. The braintrust decided to let Garcia go, instead of keeping him and letting Russell (maybe) learn from him. They also decided to draft Heywrad-Bey #1. Trying to figure out what goes on in that draft room is like trying to figure out why someone would keep touching a hot stove…you’ll just never understand. Plus, there needs to be some consistency in coaching. Changing coaches every year or two will guarantee mediocrity, if you’re lucky. The decisions made up top are not the most sound ones, and that’s why people laugh at the (dis)organization, or show pity when you say that you’re a Raiders fan. We play the Giants on 10/11, and I’m hoping that we win that one…my girlfriend is a Giants fan, and I’ll never hear the end of it.
by tbone64 on Sep 28, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I just wonder if Russell will ever figure it out? He hasn’t so far and hasn’t showed the will to improve his game. I just wonder how long Cable goes before he finally benches Russell in favor of Gradkowski.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
by 49er16 on Sep 28, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
JaMarcus Russell
Russell shouldn’t be benched in favor of Gradkowski. We’re not going anywhere with either guy, it seems, and it’ll be too late if Cable ever does give up on Russell. Russell has the potential and Gradkowski doesn’t. Barring injury, Russell is starting all 16 games this season. What happens after that, though, is anybody’s guess right now. Will he figure it out? Will we draft a quarterback? We’ll see.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 28, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Russell starting all 16 games!
Is it too late for me to get a refund on my NFL package?
by sirbed on Sep 28, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
go ahead and do it. R U that biased?
by patriotguy on Sep 28, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess you don't understand sarcasm patriotguy
by sirbed on Sep 28, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i do when i actually hear people speaking,
but it is hard(for me at least) to judge sarcasm on writing since i don’t know HOW u say it.
by patriotguy on Sep 28, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DirecTV
The link is here, but it’s old.
“Refund? We don’t give no stinking refund.” That’s essentially what DirecTV was trying to tell me during the hour I spent on the phone, mostly on hold, trying to correct their billing mistakes. They charged me for the NFL Sunday Ticket package that, despite me canceling it back in May (5/13/06 to be exact), was auto-renewed this summer.
I don’t know if this helps you.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 28, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al Davis will never allow Russell to be benched
Cable would have done it already.
by Oaktizzle on Sep 29, 2009 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Russell does show some
potential, in last years games. But where did that go?
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by mikesd1981 on Sep 29, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At Least
no one calls your quarterback Mittens. His best game in the NFL was his first, in my opinion than we had to watch him play horribly and regress for 4 years. I just think you guys might as well stick with Russell for rest of season, if you are going anywhere he is going to be leading you IMO. And the Raiders haven’t really given him quality recievers to throw to, like in past years. About three years ago the Raiders had a talented group of recievers, the lower guys on the depth chart looked like they would start for some other teams, and I don’t see that anymore.
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by CFHTim on Oct 2, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like gradkowski
but give him at least 2 more seasons, i need to see if it’s true that QB’s really do break out in the 4th season or not.
but beside that, he’s the future for now, give him more time, it’ll take more than three games to improve.
by patriotguy on Sep 28, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 more seasons of Russell patriotguy
because you need to see if it’s true that quarterbacks either break out in their 4th year or they bust out.
Hey I’m glad the Raiders can help a Patriot fan out by having a horrible quarterback play for 2 more seasons just so he can see if a theory of his is true.
Maybe I was wrong and you do understand sarcasm because this post has to be you being sarcastic right?
by sirbed on Sep 28, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was just me adding a thought
but besides that, he IS the future. like i said, give him more time, it’ll take more than three games to improve.
You have read my thread on my fanhood of the raiders right? Stop seeing me as just a pats fan on a raiders blog! search and read my damn thread, i don’t feel like writing all that stuff down again.
by patriotguy on Sep 28, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thread is
My Fanhood by patriotguy
by patriotguy on Sep 28, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like i said, give him more time, it’ll take more than three games to improve.
but, but, but………he’s……going…….backwards. Look at his #‘s from last year. Now w’/ a top notch qb coach…….he’s regressing. The coach himself says that. What else do you need to tell you it ain’t gonna happen? Does Russell have to come to your house, knock on your door, and when you open it say “I suck” ?
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by mikesd1981 on Sep 29, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what did you think of eli manning his first 3 years?
everybody was calling him a bust and that he sucks, until he busted out, and every one was kissing his feet. this happened in his 4th year.
as many know, i don’t look at #s, because i believe that they don’t depict a QB’s greatness(ie. kevin kolb, chad penningtoon, etc.). if you want to know what i use to depict a qb’s greatness, then just ask.
but i’m going to give russell more time, he needs experience in order t get better.
by patriotguy on Sep 29, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I don't remember
him going so far backward. I don’t recall him blaming his WR’s. Eli Manning was at least improving those 3 years.
No matter how much you dream it. A QB does not go so far backwards as JR and then all of a sudden the next season turns into the savior of the franchise.
Russell needs to be sent the message his job is not safe and to step it up. You can use the “Well Eli Manning” defense all you want and “Well rookie WR’s” defense all you want. But if the QB coach and the Head Coach admit he’s gong backwards, well what does this tell you????
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by mikesd1981 on Sep 29, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah you're right about that.
but they still say he’s the starter, and it seems like the coaches still believe in him as well.
But the most important thing is, that the fans should believe him too.
not saying you don’t, but i believe in him, and that’s that.
by patriotguy on Sep 29, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There just comes a time
when you gotta see reality. Some things just don’t happen. Fans don’t have to and shouldn’t have to believe in a player that’s continually going backwards just cuz their a Raiders fan. Fans are allowed to criticize their team when warranted. And this is warranted.
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by mikesd1981 on Sep 30, 2009 4:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not saying they shouldn't
to me, reality is that he needs to get better, and i believe he can do it. your reality is that he’s a gonner(or it seems like it).
also, in your reality:
you see the present russell as the future russell. know one knows what he’ll be like in our future. but what we do know is the potential he has, and you can’t deny that his potential is not an over-throwing, int ridden nfl QB.
I believe he’ll be a great QB if he works on his mistakes, and eventually become a leader.
If belichek faced reality as often as you do(well, in russell’s case anyways), he’ll probably release cassel, and we can kiss the 11-5 record good-bye, and his trade potential for a second round pick good-bye. just throwing that out there.
by patriotguy on Sep 30, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone says
his potential his potential his potential
Yet, all I see his his going backwards, making mistakes he made as a rookie now in this 3rd year.
When will this potential show?
Funny thing about potential is that you have to actually work at it to reach it.
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by mikesd1981 on Oct 1, 2009 4:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if russell isn't working at it
then why is he still the starter? because he’s the first pick in the draft? you cannot deny that he has improved!
last year he had pocket presence problems, this year he worked on that and got better at it. that’s working at it right!
I’m 90% sure that he’s working his ass off, and your sure that he’s not but the thing is, we really don’t know what he’s working on the most, or anything in the raiders camp for that matter. so you cannot say that he not actually working at it, other wise we would be trading him, or the raiders would be doing something about it, and i’m sure they know more about him then any of us do.
by patriotguy on Oct 1, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm sticking with russell, and there's nothing you can say, no stats you bring up, will change that.
i stuck with maroney on the pats team, and will continue to stay by his side no matter what happens, or what other fans say.
the same thing goes with russell.
by patriotguy on Oct 1, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that's fine and dandy
but there just comes a time where you gotta stop having blind faith. He’s the starter because Davis wants him to be the starter. I have not seen any improvement at all, in fact his pocket presence is being criticized too. There’s nothing you can say and no stats you can bring up right now to tell me he’s starter material. You under estimate Davis’ ego.
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by mikesd1981 on Oct 2, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well in New England
Cassell lived up to his potential and worked to reach it……..
Russell is not. Cassell also was not deemed a starter til Brady got hurt. Russell was made the starter. Your analogy doesn’t quite fit.
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by mikesd1981 on Oct 1, 2009 4:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
you know everyone was screaming for him to get cut right? because in new england, before brady got hurt, he SUCKED! more than russell too. he threw potential int’s on almost every throw, and cannot make a touchdown for the life of him. gutierrez did better than him. russel is facing the same problems as cassel,and because of this, being a starter did not matter. in cassells 4th YEAR, he broke out when he needed to, for replacing brady.evreyone DID NOT like it one bit, not even me(until i saw him in the kc game).
cassel had accuracy problems, timing problems, and lacked vision(in his first 3 years), and russel is no different. plus, cassel had randy moss, wes welker, and o-line to help him out too.
by patriotguy on Oct 1, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Cassell got
better. As in progressed. As in learned from his mistakes. As in cared about his job? Imagine that.
How are you overlooking the backwards progress Russell is making? When your coaches come out and say you’re regressing and part of the 10% that need to get better, well I don’t know what to tell you?
If he came out on press conferences and said “I suck as QB” would you then admit it?
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by mikesd1981 on Oct 2, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he would only say that
if he doesn’t believe he cannot get better.
by patriotguy on Oct 2, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well unintentionally
I think, you just agreed w/ me
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by mikesd1981 on Oct 2, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
woops
i meant if he doesn’t believe he’ll get better.
by patriotguy on Oct 3, 2009 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I don’t here him coming out in press conferences saying that he can do better and taking blame. so I dunno. he’s happy w/ his progress he says so again I dunno.
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by mikesd1981 on Oct 3, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Raiders suck.
The Raiders suck, take #9538353.
by Aemoc on Sep 28, 2009 4:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
hey hater-nation
so does your momma,sister,auntie,grandma and you
by bojackson34 on Sep 30, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yo. Even I caught his sarcasm.
he’s being sarcastic towards KA1Z3R because all Aemoc knows how to do is be sarcastic and tell people they’re wrong.
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by mikesd1981 on Oct 1, 2009 4:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that's just typical Aemoc
I love how we all seem to know each other’s own unique personalities despite just talking about the Raiders in short comment form
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by KA1Z3R on Oct 1, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sad thing is
I can see Russell playing all 16 games this season. I really hope he gets better and he really can’t get much worse (maybe a pick on every pass thrown in a game? That’s a record to go for JRuss! You can do it!).
Oh well, I still have hope in my second favourite team…
by KiwiRaiderFan on Sep 28, 2009 4:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This was a clever post by KA1Z3R
and I think most of what he’s written makes sense although I’m not quite ready to say he should be the Raiders new defensive cordinator.
Let’s be honest at the end of the day the Raiders have three big problems. A lack of talent. A head coach who wouldn’t be a head coach anywhere else in the NFL or even at a major college program. And most of all a certain hall of fame owner who has passed his sell by date.
Obviously if the last part changes then the other two problems will be dealt with but I’m not going to hold my breath that Darth Davis will be gone anytime soon and that means more awful football like we’ve seen the last 6 years.
by sirbed on Sep 28, 2009 4:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
and there are half a dozen Superbowl winning coaches out there without jobs and none of them will come to Oakland…
by KiwiRaiderFan on Sep 28, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right KiwiRaiderFan
no coach with any juice is going come to work for Al Davis. It’s a sad situation and there aren’t any easy answers.
by sirbed on Sep 28, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
It is sad how any experienced coach doesn’t want to coach the Raiders or work for Davis.
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by 49er16 on Sep 28, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's understandable why none would
Because the coach would most likely be placed in to be the puppet of Al Davis. Other than Jon Gruden, there isn’t another coach that got to call his own shots. At least that’s what I think.
by Dave T. on Sep 28, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, never said I wanted to be their D-coordinator
just give me a job as the talent scout/evaluator lol
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 28, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh.
If Cable left Davis’ world I think he really could make it.
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by mikesd1981 on Sep 29, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great post here
But I doubt that it would mean much because we will pretty much still have the same personnel until the end of the year. Too many changes will be required. The good changes that were done here might become problems again. Ellis is aging, and Seymour might consider leaving after this season unless a franchise tag comes to his face. I hate to sound pessimistic, but I doubt Chaz’s return will do a dramatic turnaround of the passing game. Basically, it is up to the coaches to determine what to change, and up to Russell to improve through working out more than he has done (or rather, if he ever did work out). Ultimately, these changes will be difficult to come by because Al will not want to admit that his ways won’t work, or at least they won’t work with the roster we currently have. Just when I thought we turned a corner, we take a couple steps backward. The same stupid issue and we are still in the drawing board after 6 or so painful years. Where does it end?
by Dave T. on Sep 28, 2009 5:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
it won't end
until Dais is gone. It’s been said so much by haters and fair weather fans, but it’s the truth.
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 28, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis I meant to say
no idea who Dais is. lol
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 28, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 28, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, you took the time to look that up?
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 28, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAIS
They told me that we’d win this Sunday.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 28, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I resent that
you’ve seen my posts on here. I don’t fall in any of those categories.
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by mikesd1981 on Sep 29, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
but it’s mostly people who are just fair weather guys who find it an easy source of blame. But after the recent events it’s not completely true.
I apologize for any offense my friend.
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 29, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al Davis
does need to step down. Even if he hires a GM, that GM will be just a puppet.
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by mikesd1981 on Sep 29, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, my first post in a couple weeks
expect another one if things get worse next week. Believe me, I HELD BACK on this rant.
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 28, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lmfao patriotguy
Even Anger Management would not help relieve the angry die-hard Raider fans.
by Dave T. on Sep 28, 2009 5:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wendy's
Dave, are you Dave Thomas?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 28, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Things that we need-
A QB- Mcoy? I have defended Russell constantly and I guive himuntilo week 6 or 8 before I hate him (right now i dislike him)
LB’s- Howard is fine, Kirk should be moved out and Ricky (sigh) what happened to all his preseason hype? He has just let alot of underneath passes get by him and give up big plays on the ground.
CB- I’m not saying new starters, but what the hell is Routt doing out there? I hope to god we don’t resign him.
Safeties in the run D- Branch is fine but we have a tough decision between Mike and Mike. Huff is a great pass defender but just ok in the run, Mitchell has been impressive against the run and makes big plays but is his pass D there yet. So who should we go with? I say Mitch cause Huff can play CB and safety and come in when needed against the pass and Mitch can be used against the run.
DT- Get Gerrad out of there, and put in Dez. Give him a shot or start Seymour at DT and start Trevor at DE so we can take Gerrad out. Fargas traded for a DT?
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by dubzfan on Sep 28, 2009 7:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What the Raiders need to do....
I totally agree with this article. When you spell it out AND include visual aids it all seems so clear.
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by Raider since 79 on Sep 28, 2009 7:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts on what the Raiders need to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nuff said, I don’t think anyone could have analyzed and put it together better than you. Congratulations!!!!!!!!! I feel the exact same way. Cable is a yes man, Al needs to hire a real head coach and let him coach. Give the football folks the opportunity to turn the team around, everyone in the league and in the stands can see what you just said. It is utterly ridiculous and hard to look at for four quarters. I have tried to give Russell support for the past three years but it’s hard to support a quarterback that can’t complete a simple screen pass? You’re right he did not put in the work that it takes to be a professional quarterback and it shows. Enough with blaming the receivers, they can’t catch a football that over their heads or five yards in front of them. I will be in Houston to support my team I just hope they play with that raider respect for themselves.
by darcraider on Sep 28, 2009 7:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
FedEx
That’s the way to go!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 28, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good ideas but...
If you look at the team that played monday night the defense was fired up and playing good football. Thats part coaching part team leaders. At some point these guys need to step it up and play like they can. They have yet to play bad D they just need a little bit of help from the offense. Its hard to be on the field 80% of the time and be productive, coachs will find holes. Jamarcus is not the answer he doesnt deserve to be on a scout team for that matter. Gradowski has great completion percentages, he might not be able to throw the 60 yard bomb but all that shows is it wont get picked. Hes smart and doesnt make many mistakes ulike Russel which thats all he does. If you could get a guy to complete a pass it will open up the running game but its hard to block 7 or 8 guys everytime, it not gonna happen, and for mcfadden same thing hes trying hard to make somthing happen but when you have 4 linebackers on you the ball could come loose. I believe that whoever plays qb could make a few passes(to the raiders recievers) that the run would be there and we wouldnt be a joke to every defense thelly face.
by usnraider on Sep 28, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes. an educated look at the defense base on the season
but it’s not fair nor will it be the same team that shows up for the rest of the season. They’ll play better, and not in such a glaring need of personnel.
I’d love to have the classic NT, but we wouldn’t have gotten a guy like the one’s you mentioned and a young one to develop and then fill the rest of the position for the 3-4 scheme and development is worse than what it is now.
We just need to score some points! Plain and simple. Scoring fixes everything. When you score consistently you develop a personality that teams have to adjust and attempt to be prepared to stop.
Liked your breakdown regardless. Just don’t think we’re that far off personnel wise, and agree with Cable about some 10% of guys here that need to get to the next level for this team to complete as a cohesive unit at the nfl level. Will it be too much to ask?
We’ll see, won’t we.
by brhynno on Sep 28, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not talking about changing to a 3-4
in the 4-3 the Raiders run there’s supposed to be a nose tackle. A big 340-350 dude who takes up the blockers for the UT (pass rushing DT) to get into the backfield.
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 29, 2009 4:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, one of the most coveted positions in the league
and very few quality guys. Wolfork, Kris Jenkins from NYJ, to add to Hampton, and Ngata. This would allow for us to actually employ a 3-2-6 dime package with extra dbs and give altogether new looks.
I like the possibilities, and this is probably the most glaring need you’ve pointed out, quite accurately I might add. But we’ll have to see how we do with the guys we’ve got, and I for one believe some blitz packages are the answer to doing that. Some shoots sending a db and a lb with the front guys, dog packages and confusing looks.
Seymour said it’s among the fastest team of guys he’s played with, we’ll also have to learn to stay home and be patient a little. But I do expect us to finish better than where we stand.
by brhynno on Sep 30, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
get rid of Al Davis
we seem to have gotten over that HURDLE
we will end at 91-71 and the braves will end at 90-72...take it to the bank
by TuLoRocks2008 on Sep 28, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We need...
TO step into this century and have an executive team and board of advisers run this franchise like a corporation. THis is a business and all successful teams operate this way. THere are two dictatorships left, the Raiders and Cowboys, and when is the last time either of these teams won a playoff game?
Al still does all of the expense reports himself! Every dollar spent needs to be approved by him. It’s insane.
You can’t scout talent from a wheelchair in an office! There are no scouts! Only crazy ass Al!
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by Kwester421 on Sep 28, 2009 10:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe...
We could put this article on an overhead projector…
by Kwester421 on Sep 28, 2009 11:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
BWHAHAHA!!!!
excellent
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 29, 2009 4:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is what it is
AD actually tried last year – shot his wad on Kelly, Hall, and Walker. Assuming that we will live with JR for the remainder of the year, what burns me the most is Javon Walker getting crazy money, coming to camp as a head case and not being anywhere near the veterant pro that JR desperately need to settle down the routes. “Experts” mention that it takes 3 yrs for WR to fully develop; HDB missed most of spring and training camp, it will take at least 8 games for JR to get some timing with him. But the reality is that HDB was raw at Maryland, everyone knew that he has ways to go to start tapping his potential. We’re asking too much from him; he was an upside pick, not a now pick regardless of where he was taken in the draft. He needs to come in as 3rd WR on the field. Murphy is a great revelation as a nice possession catcher is willing to go in the middle. Chaz is a phenominal pick for a 7th rounder; truly incredible. He has that mojo and more importantly timing that JR craves. J Walker is our main set back that’s affecting our passing game as he’s not the veterant overachiever pro that can lead by example and taking our rookies aside for pointers. Regarding our LBs, I completely agree that Morrisson is perfect for the outside. Watching the Jets game, it was like how come we don’t have a LB like Scott for the Jets in the middle who shuts down running back up the middle. So if we can’t shut down the run, we better not fall behind, we better be able to run and control the clock, and most importantly, no turnovers.
by raiders4liffe on Sep 29, 2009 4:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Walker tried
to give the money back, but Davis talked him into staying.
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by mikesd1981 on Sep 29, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not good enough
either you have what it takes to be the vet at big money or you don’t. i know his contract got restructured this year but as a vet receiver, it just not happening. AD picking him as featured WR set us back 2 years in that position. my point is that we’re now asking a lot from rookie WRs
by raiders4liffe on Sep 29, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it Walker himself
that marks him inactive for the game? Or is it the coaching staff/Davis
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by mikesd1981 on Sep 29, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what i'm saying
i don’t really care who placed him coach or AD. we need a vet/professional WR in a bad way. we went out and paid big money, the fact that he knows that he doesn’t deserve it and wanted to give it back last year, is not helping us this year. he needs to clearly demonstrate in practice that he belongs in the rotation, once that gets done, he’ll play. as good, is not good enough for this guy. that’s the biggest bust in my eyes. the opportunity cost of taking this WR over several others WRs is the set back.
by raiders4liffe on Oct 2, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade JMark....
…to either the Browns, Dolphins, Bucs, or any of several teams who need a QB. My favorite spot: St. Louis. We cud probably get their #1 next AND Bulger. Start Gradowski until Bulger comes back, go with those two through the year. If neither one works out, cut one and find an-udder. Also, draft a better QB next year, one with moore polish and perhaps less ‘potential’. You can have projects in the NBA and MLB, but not in the NFL, at least not at QB, unless yer prepared to sit him for a few years. God, any chance we cud pry away Colb from the Eagles???
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by The MooCow on Sep 29, 2009 7:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Stanford Routt is a personnell blunder!!!!
by Oaktizzle on Sep 29, 2009 8:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But he was sooo fast at the combine.(sarcasm)
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by CFHTim on Oct 2, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sucks
It sucks to be a raiders fan,our Qb sucks,our owner is out of it,he thinks it still 1976.We need a new QB,what was it 61 yards passing danm my 12 year old girl can do better than that.He looks fat,and lazy,it never seems like he has any hurry up in him,unless its to the dinner table.Put on the bench and start Gardowski,and the Bulger Idea is not bad but I think we should make a play for Vick,He is just the shot in the arm this team needs.He can out play our QB with his eyes closed.
by David W on Sep 29, 2009 10:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Raider Fans
we play you guys this week so just stopping by to say whats up. How do you guys view the upcoming game against the Texans? People here in Houston seem to be counting you guys out like we did the Jags. But I remember last year, Raiders pretty much dominated us, and Russell looked to be progressing.
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by CFHTim on Sep 29, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
rated-r
is it too early to set up a Houston-Oakland thread?
by patriotguy on Sep 29, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Usually the other guys would come
in and set it up asking any questions about Oak and letting us ask questions.
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by mikesd1981 on Sep 29, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a rule, of course
just how it happens. Nothing stopping you from staring a Houston/Oakland thread of your own.
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by mikesd1981 on Sep 30, 2009 4:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh
i’ll leave it up to the pros. ;)
by patriotguy on Sep 30, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
why?
why are we not running the wild cat.
why doesnt jr ever roll out.
why doesnt jr ever run for a first down if recievers are not open.
why does jr throw it up in the air so high on deep passes. stop trying to loft it up. just throw it like you mean it.
why do we throw it short of the first downs and just before the endzone. throw it just past the first down marker and in the endzone!
seems like pass plays are designed on the stop not on the run.
by 22goose on Sep 29, 2009 2:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cal … The Raiders…Tough week for the East Bay.
by origraid on Sep 29, 2009 3:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I might be in minority
but I think McCoy will be a bust in NFL.
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by CFHTim on Sep 29, 2009 4:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, this is a rather popular comment section
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 29, 2009 6:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why are people in love with Gradkowski?
Is it compared to Russell’s recent outings anyone looks good? Gradkowski’s career numbers are pretty bad, 60.2 career QB rating, 53% passing, 91.7 yards per game, 9 TDs 13 INTS. He didn’t look very good in pre-season either (49’ ers game). I thought Frye looked a little better and has better career numbers but it’s hard to get too excited about either of them.
by Oceanside Raider on Sep 29, 2009 9:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
#2 qb
fans always love the #2. one those things; hope is bliss. JR is the qb unless he gets hurt. He needs to have solid practices and to play well on the road. at home, just start well and not get too behind. just stay in the game.
by raiders4liffe on Oct 2, 2009 2:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont care
I dont care who gets the start as long as we just win! We need the Raider pride back,we need the other teams to say damn I hate to play the raiders,just like the old days.Now they look at us as an easy win,or the punch line to a joke.
by David W on Sep 30, 2009 9:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Russell...
The fundamental problem here with JaMarcus is that he doesn’t acknowledge that he is the problem with the offense. A true leader would take responsibility on his shoulders. He does just the opposite. And when asked if he was happy with his development as an NFL quarterback, he said YES. I mean really…are you $%&& kidding me? How can a real competitor be happy with mediocrity, let alone being the worst starting quarterback in the league? This is a problem that Cable, Davis or all of us Raider fans can’t fix. He doesn’t get it. And frankly doesn’t care. He will deflect responsibility. I say instead of benching him…move him to RT for a few games offering him some humility.
by TradeKobe4Lebron on Sep 30, 2009 10:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Schemes and Players both suck
Good break down…too bad you’re not Al Davis nor does Al Davis think like you.
The problem is in the schemes, the defense has great personel however, it’s too basic, now blitz, and they go man all the time, it lets Morrison who’s an undersized MLB get swallowed up. It doesn’t help that Tommy Kelly kinda sucks
The offense is too predicatble and basic, Jamarcus sucking doesn’t help. As of Week 3, he officially sucks. I thought the Denver safetys were smart enough to play deep and wait for him to over throw Bey.
Here’s my post game take on why the Raiders really sucked against the Broncos and have the potential to suck for the rest of the year.
http://hubpages.com/hub/Black-Hole-Adventures-Russell-Sucks-as-Bronco-Fans-Invade-the-Hole
by SteveAngeles on Sep 30, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
actually, the D is a little different
there’s actually quite a bit more zone and Brown blitzes constantly, just it’s not on third down, aka the only time an offense passes on us. Morrison just struggles to see the field and react to the play. You never see him shooting into gaps to fill them up, or see where the back is an charge to him. He sits back and waits trying to figure out where the play is going. He only reacts when the back is already at the second line of defense where he’s sitting and waiting, which results in all of his sure tackles after 5 yard gains.
If he played outside, he’d only have to read and react to half of the field instead of the whole field. Kind of like what Cincinnati is doing with Maualuga because of Maualuga’s low level of awareness and it’s been pretty successful so far. I have to believe Morrison could do it better than a rookie.
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by KA1Z3R on Sep 30, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For improvement here is the deal, first on J-Russ, fundamentally he is a wreck,
that will not be corrected under fire gentleman, it can only be corrected with repetition and when guys are trying to tear your head off, you just don’t learn. You learn at practice and/or while practicing. While he is in this state skill wise there will be no help in the win column with him starting. Over the last two seasons there was no focus on his dropback and read ability, its ashame but it is the truth, time with receivers is one thing, knowing which to throw to is another. The D is fine, what do you expect when they play that long, please, a guy can run so much and a starter won’t leave the field. So I have no problems with the D at all, and until the O helps the D by sustaining drives and scoring points, nobody has any reason to complain about our D. Next, the O, first the scheme is retarded, the receivers are running routes designed to keep them covered, lol, it is the craziest thing I have ever seen. And the running game, well, when that is all you have to worry about any D can slow that.
Back to J-Russ, when Coach Cable said he felt the Raiders might be in trouble with Denver after looking at Friday’s practice, he should have bench J-Russ right then. You read to much in to C-Chill coming back, I am telling you. But you’ll see. Next, it is time for J-Russ to sit, and work on his mechanics in practice, not to say he can’t come back but he needs a few weeks of concentrated work on his footwork and ability to see the entire field. Period!!! Grad/Frye doesn’t really matter, but either provide a better chance to win right now, because J-Russ just isn’t ready yet, if he’ll ever be ready. Only time will tell, and the time is NOT now..
by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 30, 2009 2:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
we do have a problem with our D
we’re down 13-3 at halftime (that’s nothing/plenty of time). Denver gets the kickoff, marches and eats 10 minutes to score another TD. Now, the whole team presses and McD runs with abandon or abadons the ball while running, fumbles, etc, you know the story. bottom line, we do not have a true MLB wrecking havoc while punishing RBs. We both know JR is not sitting unless he gets hurt. What to do with young WRs and our fragile run D? Control the ball – more screens, more end run with WRs, use our TE earlier in the game, use our RBs to catch out of backfield.
by raiders4liffe on Oct 2, 2009 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're really in a box now ....
The Raiders are really in a box now. Teams are now stacking the box with up to 7 players to stop the Raider running game, and this forces us into our “weakness” which is making “Russel” beat you. I’m sorry, but JRUSS is going to have get his “ass” in gear. Until you Prove that you can Pass and beat the other team, They will continue to just play the run , force you to throw on 2nd/3rd and long and all they have to do is read Russel’s eyes. Ity is so damn easy to beat the Raiders now. Opposing Teams offense “know” all they are going to get is a 4 man rush. No suprise from the Raiders. When I watch the Raiders, I wonder … did they work during the preseason at all ? Why don’t we look “Sharp” like the New Orleans Saints ? They were incredible when we saw them during preseason. They ran “suprise” plays, kept the defense guessing, did play action, fakes, mis-directions. …. We’ve really dug a hole now. The NFL is a “smart” league, Once teams know your weakness, they will pound on it, till you prove you can stop it. Time to get Going Raiders ….
by 9nerhater on Sep 30, 2009 9:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LETS WIN SOME GAMES!
4 words! I’m tired of losing!
1)I enjoy supporting my Raiders every yr no matter what but dis is getting ridiculous!
2)Love spending my hard earn $$$$$$$$$$$ on Raiders merchandise n tickets! which I’m stopping! until we Raiders fans see some damn wins!
3)I’m tired of all my friends feeling sorry 4 my team! My Raiders!
4)What happened 2 I Hate Dem Raiders! Dats wat I love!
5)Don’t give a damn who starts 4 da Raiders as long as we see some damn wins!
Damn! I’ll b happy if we go 8-8 n miss da playoffs! Sad but true!
COMMITTMENT TO STOP SPENDING MY DAMN $$$$$$$ ON MY RAIDERS!
UNTIL WE SEE SOME DAMN WINSSSSSSSSSSS!
by Showtime32 on Sep 30, 2009 10:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Money
I totally agree with Showtime 32!!! I’ve been a loyal fan here in AZ. since 1975 and I’m just damn tired of the same old bullsh I spend my hard earned cash on merchandise and tickets when I can, and for what…..same old less than mediocre performance of a once proud franchise. I myself have literally quit spending ANY cash on ANY merchandise till the Raiders can put together a winning season. On the upside, me and my family can go on some nice vacations for the next six or seven years!!
by Hadenuff on Oct 1, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Truth is the Raiders will NOT win playing with a starting QB that isn't ready
and calling plays that are predictable. Here is the problem, you see teams running all sorts of looks and wonder why we don’t..Well, J-Russ is why we don’t, he is not capable of running the base Offense correctly so you surely don’t want to complicate things more, I am still waiting for him to execute a proper screen play. J-Russ may be fine later, but right now he needs to sit and work though his fundamentals at practice and learn the complete playbook, not just the little part he can handle mentally at this point. This has to be Al, because no Coach in his right mind would play J-Russ at this stage of his development, he quite frankly should not have been a number one pick. FYI, you never pick a quarterback high in the draft that doesn’t come from a pro-set offense in College. That goes for Florida QB’s, Texas Tech QB’s and Mizzou because the numbers do not reflect how he would respond in the NFL, no one runs the spread offense in the NFL and QB’s that come from that style of offense have to re-learn to play. Now, J-Russ did not play fundamental ball in College thus the problem today, same with Alex Smith in SF. Even with C-Chill this is not pre-season, teams have their A-Team on the field and J-Russ will still need to read through his progressions and play QB. I can’t see it, he looks too far behind right now. And if they keep playing like this Al will fire Cable and the same scenario will replay itself, it is the craziest thing I have ever seen…. lol But Go Raiders!!! I am still praying that someone comes to there senses while there is still time.. We have the talent to win, just not the leadership!! Go figure…
by Rodney Sacramento on Oct 1, 2009 12:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Must win game!
This is it, do or die, etc. JaMarcus is running out of time to prove himself. He’s facing a horrible defense, and I believe he has to show signs of improvement this Sunday. Cable must call some misdirection plays if he wants to win, and JaMarcus must be able to move in the pocket and run when there is an opening. That’s the bottom line: Just Win, Baby!
by Jraider on Oct 2, 2009 12:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
theres only 3 ways the raiders can turn it around
first off this is my first post. i’m a long time raider fan, back in my day i used to bleed silver and black. it just pains me to watch the raiders these days. jamarcus russell is just god awful and this guy will never be any good. the moves davis has made over the years are mind boggling. the drafting, trades and free agency sigings. the coaching meery go-round. the raiders have turned into the laughing stock of the leauge. i dont live in oakland, i live in ny. like i said i’ve always been a die hard radier fan. you guys just cant believe how fans from other areas other then oakland just laugh and mock out my once proud raiders. the trade for seymour was such a joke. you never give up a first round pick (most likely a top 5 pick) unless your knocking on the door and that person you trade for can put you over the top and gives you a great chance to win a championship. our raiders are no where close to this. theres only 3 ways this can be turned around. that being if al davis died, or if al gives up control (i dont see any of this happening soon). or if the nfl steps in and takes control away from davis. i’m pretty sure they realize this guy is senile and lost touch with reality. anyways i’m glad to be here and looking to talking football with everyone.
by radierrooter on Oct 2, 2009 3:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Raider Fan
I’ve been a Raider fan since 67 and the Heidi Game. Could say alot about the team here, but won’t. Most important thing now, NOTHING WILL change until Davis either gives up control or passes on(too bad Al, your time was great, you were a great football mind, but everyone gets old and should move on as not to hurt the team/organization) Teams of the past would have won several more games and probably more Super Bowls had the NFL had not such a distaste for Al Davis. But HE WAS A GREAT mind and a credit to the sport. But that time has come and gone and time to move on. Until the reins are passed on, we’ll see play and results like what has been going on.
Today in this day and age, where teams and players are so close in talent and ability, it only takes a call here or there by the zebras (who are controlled by the NFL) to make a win or a loss each Sunday in so many of the games. Add that each Sunday with the current state of control in Oakland and the results speak for themselves. Sad, but true. I actually left viewing a Raider game this past Sunday in the 3rd quarter, they look so baddd. First time in all these years I completely gave up on watching them. I guess I have been spoiled by all the great years, but I have hung with them through this bad time too. I think most coaches would be making a change at QB by this time too, IF THEY HAVE CONTROL TO DO SO. Russell looks slow and seems to have that, I don’t care, I’ve got a big contract appearance.
by Whitetail on Oct 3, 2009 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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