Silver and Black Pride's Sunday Community Poll: The Raiders 53
The preparation for the 2009 NFL regular season for the Oakland Raiders and the rest of the NFL was well underway yesterday when all 32 teams brought their rosters to the 53-man limit.
For the Raiders there were a few mild surprises but nothing shocking and the final product, (which will get clearer over the next couple of days) is fairly close to what we all expected. The Raiders, who will hold a practice today with the trimmed down roster, will be very busy through Tuesday putting the finishing touches on their roster before the team reassembles on Wednesday to practice for the season opener.
The Raiders will be active filling out their practice squad and searching the waiver wire for the more than 700 available players who could still be a fit for the 53.
Looking at the 53-man roster as it stands now, there are areas of strength and solid depth and there are some weak and very thin positions. the strongest area on the team is unquestionably running back. Keeping Rankin really was no surprise as he proved himself worthy and is too young and talented to part with. The fact that he can help on special teams, including kick return duties only helps. Whether or not Rankin's inclusion on the 53-man roster spells the end of Justin Fargas' Raiders career is uncertain. The Raiders are going to be a "running team", so it makes sense that they will need to make sure that they have plenty of depth at that position, particularly due to Fargas' fragility.
Next, will the Raiders be on the look for another offensive tackle? The answer to that will probably lays in the belief of whether or not Khalif Barnes will be able to play the right tackle position.
Will the Raiders try to claim a defensive tackle? I think the Raiders got much more than they expected from Desmond Bryant and William Joseph during camp, so the question is, is there anybody out there now that will be better for the Raiders than those two?
As much as the running back position is the team's strength, the linebacker position is its weakest. Even when Kirk comes back, this position has serious depth issues. At a minimum, the Raiders must sign a linebacker to the practice squad that can be activated if the situation calls for it.
At corner back, I'll I can say is let's pray that neither Nnamdi or CJ are ever injured for an extended period of time. An upgrade for depth is a must for that position.
Finally, when looking at the roster as it is now, it is clear that the Raiders will not carry 7 wide receivers. Todd Watkins is a goner as soon as the Raiders find a player who could help at one of the above discussed positions.
Here's a look at the Raiders 53-man roster as it stands now:
QUARTERBACKS
JaMarcus Russell
Bruce Gradkowski
Charlie Frye
OFFENSIVE LINE
Mario Henderson
Robert Gallery
Chris Morris
Cooper Carlisle
Cornell Green
Samson Satele
Erik Pears
Paul McQuistan
Khalif Barnes
HALFBACKS
Darren McFadden
Justin Fargas
Michael Bush
Louis Rankin (KR)
FULLBACKS
Oren O’Neal
Luke Lawton
TIGHT ENDS
Zach Miller
Tony Stewart
Brandon Myers
WIDE RECEIVERS
Javon Walker
Chaz Schilens
Johnnie Lee Higgins
Louis Murphy
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Nick Miller (KR)
Todd Watkins
Trevor Scott
Gerard Warren
Tommy Kelly
Greg Ellis
Jay Richardson
Desmond Bryant
William Joseph
Matt Shaughnessy
LINEBACKERS
Thomas Howard
Kirk Morrison
Jon Alston
Ricky Brown
Sam Williams
Isaiah Ekejiuba
DEFENSIVE BACKS
Nnamdi Asomugha
Chris Johnson
Hiram Eugene
Tyvon Branch
Stanford Routt
Michael Huff
Mike Mitchell
John Bowie
SPECIALISTS
Sebastian Janikowski (kicker)
Shane Lechler (punter)
Jon Condo (long-snapper)
What do you think of the Raiders 53-man roster now and who, if anybody do you think they will add to it?
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Cornerback and LB are in serious depth trouble
I fully expect the Raiders to fix these issues immediately. No way they’ll settle for such horrendous depth. who should they get? idk, I still have to fish around to see who all is available.
Other than that, another offensive tackle would be nice but it’s not as necessary as cornerback or linebacker depth.
"You'll take my life but I'll take yours too. You'll fire you musket but I'll run you through. So when your waiting for the next attack. You'd better stand there's no turning back"- "The Trooper" by Iron Maiden
Raiders Traded for Seymour
According to Yahoo Sports The Raiders traded a 2011 first round draft pick for Richard Seymour.
Just HIT somebody.
KA1Z3R Adam Jones is better than Stanford Routt will ever be, he would not be a bad
addition in light of what we currently are working with. I know he has a checkered past at best, however he can play. Also Walter’s can stay where he is, he did not want to be a Raider so let him be a fan..And Frye is a better QB. Now our players will need to rise to the occasion as individuals, to win you have to beat your man. If the Raiders don’t man up then they will lose, they have to play their best to win every game, they don’t have the luxury of having bad games and still winning. Garcia needed to get Cut, he was brought in to be a mentor and he only thought about himself. Again I would have signed Michael Vick, he would have worked with J-Russ mentally and by the way that is his week point, J-Russ has to get mentally better and he can be a beast.
LB is another pos that needs serious attention, Takeo Spikes was released, Roosevelt Colvin was released, Odell Thurman, though troubled but back after a suspension, also Brian Simmons is available, these are all vets but they can still play. I hope the Raiders will at least bring a couple in for a try out.
Fargas’ last season with the Raiders unless he just has a killer season, he was a Davis fav so he may hang on longer. It is show time now fellas, hopefully we can win some games
by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 6, 2009 10:12 AM PDT reply actions
trade players and contracts
richard seymour is in his last year of contract; he will be looking for big money next year. Pats play moneyball and do not see value in spending big money on a 30 year old. We have dire needs at run stopping and putting pressure on a qb. Seymour will need to have a big year if he wants that big money. The plan is that Raiders become competitive this year and playoff material next year, hence, our first round pick in 2011 should be a low 1st round pick. We can also put the franchise tag on seymour next year. Now we need a solid LB and help at CB. Again, I don’t have a problem bringing pacman jones for a look at minimum pay. our D needs that confidence and swarm mentality, we can get there by half way through the season pending injuries. We have a shot at 8-8 record. We need to keep the SD game close and not get embaressed to build that confidence off the bat.
trade with pats - seymour
seymour now a raider so the raiders should release watkins.
we need to have him as a run stopper and pass rusher. to stop a team like the chargers and win that game. its a good move for us this year and maybe next year as a franchise tag or sign him to a deal but he must prove himself 1st.
by sports with steve on Sep 6, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions
cornerback
because their DL just got jacked by getting seymor, and we need a dependent 3rd(or second) corner.
fargas-traded or released
fargas should be traded or released and the raiders should have kept g.russell and also unload one of those fullbacks. bush and russel ca play fullback to . i dont see fargas doing alot except run/block and get injured. he is older and just like seymour , time to look at the youth.
by sports with steve on Sep 6, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions
fargas is 29 years old
that’s still young. and seymour is still BEAST.
Great move on Seymour, Fargas will not be waived or traded this year
however, I do think a move for Adam Jones would be great because he comes cheap right now. He is far better the Routt, and I would as I posted earlier look at Takeo Spikes or one of the other available LB’s out there..By the Way, Merriman may be suspended by the first game because of putting his hands on his girlfriend. He went to jail for battery, bad for him, but a great distraction for the Chargers.
by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 6, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions
DEFENSE
Adam Jones, Please he sucked as a cowboy and would only be worse as a raider. Any one know when Mike Mitchel will play. Sure would be nice to see him lite up L.T.
Pacman Jones? Are you kidding?
This is a team in need of serious stability not another loose cannon and more distractions.
As it stands right now, we only have four pure cornerbacks on the roster. That needs to change. Someone will get signed off waivers and then Watkins will likely get punted.
Would love to see an RT get signed that sends Cornell Green packing, but I’m not gonna pray for miracles at this point.
I think the Seymour trade spells the end for either William Joseph or Jay Richardson.
Would not be surprised if Fargas and/or Huff are being dangled as bait for a depth signing at LB.
Next!
Good move with Seymore. One set, and now up to five more to get (tackle, lb maybe two, two dbs). Go Raiders!!!!
Adam Jones sucked as a Cowboy? He did far better that Routt would have done
in that same position. For you young Raiders fans understand this, people make mistakes, you had better believe that Jones knows he would be blessed to get another chance to play in this league. Now, if anyone has ever had any talent at a sport you will understand this, when you have been away from the game you excell at, it takes time to get your skill set back at the level it was when you left. Jones can play flat out, but it will take time for him to get back up to speed and not long, saying anything different just shows you have never played the game. Does he come with baggage yes there is some risk, but the Raiders are NOT a good football team, this is the worse Raiders team of all times until they prove differently. For everyone that balked at me thinking we should sign Mike Vick, next year you will be saying the same thing and wishing we had. Stability!!!, they haven’t even shown any heart, in my entire life as a Raider fan and that goes back to Daryl Lamonica, with Warren Wells, Clem Daniels, etc, I have never seen a team that plays with so liitle heart wearing Silver & Black. If you knew the history of this team, the Raiders have cared less about a players background, as long as you were knocking people out and scoring points they would pick you up being paroled from San Quentin. You must have the Raiders mistaken with the 49ers or something. You look at our DB’s and not consider Adam Jones, please the Raiders need to add as many pieces as they can, and this guy can come in and play the nickel at a higher level than your beloved bum Stanford Routt any day. The times have changed, the speed of the game has changed, but having heart will always be the same, and the Raiders need guys that can come in and play now. You get the film on Adam Jones and on Stanford Routt look at their body of work and tell me who sucks as a matter of fact there are two or three DB’s you can compare that won’t come close. If you want to win, then you bring in players that can help you do that, my point with Jones is what it will cost financially, the veteran minimum, he would be of greater value than more than a couple of the DB’s on our roster, he is a good player with the potential for greatness. And there is only one DB on this squad you can say that about.
There are some good LB’s available right now as well, I just hope that we make a few more moves.
by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 6, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions
Roster
Cut’em all………….Kelley must go, we don’t need a 350lb safety, as this is where he ends up at the snap of the ball……We need a QB who understands the game (Million dollar arm, ten cent head) Need to have a attacking defense not this passive crap thats been going on for the last 20 years. As far as the roster goes we got us some great atheletes but few football players. I predict 3-5 wins, another double digit loss record for the aklan raiers (No "O’ and No “D”) Hey where is this “Executive” Al was ging to hire????OOPs i guess it was Al
"Pacman"
Nobody needs Adam “Pacman” a.ka. “Toast” Jones, and rationalizing does not help.
The Raiders haven’t played with heart since 86.
J-Russ's problem is mental no doubt about that, the Raiders missed the
Super Bowl twice not due to a lack of heart but due to 1. A staight up bad call in NE, and 2. The lack of a back up QB against Baltimore..In terms of Adam Jones, he can play better than most of the DB’s on the Raiders team, you can call it rationalizing if you like, but facts are just that. Forget the personality and look at the game, But again everyone won’t agree with everything, the benefit of being an American lol.. I do have to agree its going tough getting wins this year if they don’t really play their best every game. I am not overly optimistic at this point, I am hopeful so to speak.
by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 7, 2009 12:06 AM PDT reply actions
JR
Let’s not forget that he came out as junior with limited amount of games in college. He missed the first year (Raider fault as he was NFL #1 pick; why wait until sept to give him that slot money?). Too many different OC and QB coaches. He will have the best backfield in the NFL, particularly with Fargas as 3rd RB who has a chip on his shoulder and will prove the critics wrong again. What JR is missing is experienced WRs who can run precise routs and be deceptive. He had a connection with Chaz that is hard to replace and we can’t minimize that. The game is finally slowing down for JR and I predict that by game 8, it’s going to happen and he will put it together.
Regarding Adam Jones, you bring him in at the minimum, you have a strong look, if he can get in game shape in 2 weeks, what’s the downside? A distraction, I think that he will keep his nose clean and fall in line. If he doesn’t, you let him go. We paid crazy money for Hall….
Bring in the best, it is Showtime
If Jones is the best at “corner” right now, then we must take a look at his mind-set and abilities, at least. The upgrade on the defensive line should help to disguise the shortcomings of our depth and quality of defensive backs, only for a short minute. We still have a ‘long ways to go’ with the product we presently have, in order to be competitive. The methodical moves the organization has made lately seems to be headed in the right direction, however; as one Oakland Tribune writer justly points out, just filling in the pieces ( Moss, Sapp, Seymour, etc.) is only part of the transformation that shall be necessary to become winners again.
The brains that are brought in to provide preparedness (the coaches) need latitude to effectively do their jobs. We have seen the dumbfounding schemes we thought R. Ryan implemented during obvious ‘needed-pressure-situations,’ but quess what? The same maddness has shown up in this preseason since he has left. I am not an employee of Mr. Davis’ but a fan of good professional sports; with all due respects, it seems Mr. Davis is building with one hand and tearing down with the other. As a member of the ’Nation," I believe in organized toughness; we need to come into the 21st century of how to win football games (demanding respect that way also!)
Not knocking my boy J-Russ, however, his weak point is mental at this point
it won’t always be that way. When he catches up mentally he has the potential to be a great QB. Right now we need to look at athletes that can play and upgrade our team, so again I am for bringing in Adam Jones for a try out. Also, Takeo is out there and a few others we need to work out. We will need to make plays Monday night, bottomline, so the season begins, Go Raiders!!!!!
by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 7, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions
RAIDERS CONFUSION
PEOPLE ,IM A RAIDER FAN BACK TO SUPERBOWL 11, AND I STUCK IT THROUGH MANY YEARS OF UP AND DOWNS- BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS TEAM IN SUCH A CASE A DISARAY,CONFUSION,OUT RIGHT LOST.
QB-LACKS HEART
RB- EXCELLENT
OFFENSE LINE- WELL WHAT CAN I SAY (OK) NOT GOOD ENOUGH
WR- DONT HAVE ANY
DEFENSE- EXCEPT FOR A COUPLE OF PLAYERTAKES 11 TO PLAY DEFENSE.
COACH – ANOTHER LOSER WHO THINKS THIS IS HIS BIG BREAK- GOODBYE SOON
OWNER- MF IS LOST IN TODAY FOOTBALL – HAS TAKEN A ONCE PROUD ORGANIZATION AND TURNED US INTO THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE NFL.
SO THERE IS NO WAY THE RAIDERS WILL DO CRAP AGAIN AND TO TOP IT OFF WE GAVE AWAY OUR 1 ROUND PICK( SO HOPE ALL YOU WANT- YOU HAVE BETTER LUCK HOPING THAT SANTA CLAUS IS REAL

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