The Best Is Yet To Come: My Thoughts On The Richard Seymour Acquisition
Let's Hear It For Al Davis and his management team!
Seriously. Once again they have gone out and done the best they could with what they had to get a piece that can best help the organization!
How this move pays off in the near and long run remains to be seen, but from where I am sitting (in a comfy new leather seat) this move may be the best we've made since we brought in Rice, Parella and Woodson. And not one of those players was shy of 30 years old.
The pundits are already flapping their gums about this being a one year deal and the Patriots getting over on the Raiders again. To them I say that we are still repaying them for Jim Plunkett. We owe them two Championships and we may have just gotten over again.
Say what you want about first rounders and their value, especially in 2011 when the value will increase x5 for those who make it in this League and become factors, but I doubt that the pick we lost will be as good of an NFL player as Richard Seymour.
When I play imaginary defensive coordinator and I write down the names, Greg "The Raider's Unicorn" Ellis, Tommie Kelly, Gerard Warren and Richard Seymour as my front four, I am completely, out of my mind, encouraged and my mind races with how I will use Trevor Scott, Jay Richardson and Desmond Bryant in the rotation with The Law Firm shooting the gaps and wreaking havoc in pass coverage.
This doesn't even take into account the play making ability of the secondary with Nnamdi, CJ, Mini-Tatum and "New" Branch.
The addition of Richard Seymour has solidified the entire defense. He will take time off of the quarterback's clock, which will result in increased turnover ratings for all who dare to throw on this team.
He will also be the sealing force on "Hopefully" the left end that pushes the pile back and let's the linebackers and strong safety go to work against the running game.
Also, keep in mind Raider Nation, this will be his first time having a one gap assignment, the Raiders play a 4-3 instead of the 3-4 that the Pats play. Imagine how many sacks he can get in a 4-3 when he had 8.5 in a 3-4!
As the pundits continue to spew their hatred, I just sit back and laugh. We are on our way Nation, let's just be the one's who laugh loudest as we are the ones who will laugh last.
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Someone Is Excited
I am too. I can’t wait to see him Monday Night live in person
If Winning Isn't Everthing, Why Do They Keep Score? - Vince Lombardi
by Rayder K on Sep 7, 2009 5:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
not going to be there, as he already is refusing to report to the Raiders. Shocker.....
by Bacon on Sep 7, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are a very sad fan
I feel sorry for you
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
by adragon on Sep 7, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s an idiot that wastes his time by posting on this blog.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 7, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey RRS
I agree
What are you doing with no A’s game tonight?
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
by adragon on Sep 7, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am watching the Miami-Florida State game. It has been a good game thus far and it appears that we’re headed for a great finish.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Sep 7, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has $190,000 reasons to show up by Monday
that is approximately what he gets paid for each game he plays and in the NFL, salaries don’t start until the season starts. It has nothing to do with him not wanting to come to Oakland per se, it has everything to do with having a family , home, kids probably in school in Mass. and having to uproot everything when he thought he was staying there/. Anybody who has been married understands the problem he has right now, a very pissed off wife, unhappy kids probably, going to a part of the country he has probably never been in more than a few days at a time. He’ll get over it because as pissed as the wife is right now, she understands $190,000.
by Laoren on Sep 7, 2009 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seymour may not report until he gets a new contract
Jason La Confora of NFL.com believes, and I tend to agree with him, that Richard Seymour may not report to Alameda without a new long-term contract in place. It makes sense for the Raiders to give him a new deal – one, they desperately need him on the defensive line, for all the reasons saint stated above; second, the Raiders need to get as much value out of the 1st round pick they gave up as possible. Now, that doesn’t mean throwing money at him like DeAngelo Hall, but it would be nice to keep Seymour around for longer than just the one year left on his current contract.
by LiveAdam on Sep 7, 2009 6:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would feel much more confident about giving Seymour a long term deal...
then I ever did about Hall. To say Hall had displayed a poot work ethic prior to coming to the Raiders would not be fair to the word work ethic.
By all accounts there are none of those concerns for Seymour.
Whatever the hold up is, he needs to get on the practice field so he can be on the real field on Monday night!
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
by noontide on Sep 7, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seymour is the consummate professional
From all I have heard he has a very good work ethic and is a great leader both on the field and in the locker room.
PREPAREDNESS_Because those goddamn zombies aren’t going to kill themselves
by adragon on Sep 7, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't get paid until he reports
Don’t forget NFL players haven’t been paid since last January, no money during training camp so he will report even if his wife is pissed off with New England. Al is very good with players, and he pays well, I am sure Al will talk to him about getting a new contract.
He’ll be in the lineup on Monday unless he doesn’t like money.
by Laoren on Sep 7, 2009 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgive my lack of enthusiasm
I’m a transplanted a’s / raiders fan in New England (ergo the screen name and sigline). Grew up in the 70’s in the area and really miss those days.
I fear the Raiders are BIG losers in this deal. Some of the reasons (besides recent history of Raiders deals):
1) The Raiders will not make the playoffs this year. Wish I could say otherwise, but I can’t. Seymour makes them better today, but he doesn’t even make them good. They’re still sub-.500, and will do well to win 6 games.
2) The only goal any Raider fan should have is a championship. That is NOT possible this year or next. So, this year and next don’t matter.
3) Seymour is a one year rental. If you sign him to a long term deal, you do no better than you would waiting until the offseason. You will do worse, of course, if he gets hurt. In the meantime, you’ll use cap space getting that deal done. And Seymour will not take a discount.
4) The Raider’s rebuilding project will still be happening in 2011. That draft pick would be kinda nice then.
5) Seymour, on the other hand, will be a 32 year old defensive tackle 4-6 years removed from his best seasons at that time. Remember Warren Sapp???
6) That’s all assuming Seymour is OK this year. My sneaking suspicion, knowing the Pats and the Raiders, is that he won’t be.
I’d love to be wrong about this deal. But I see no way this can help the Raiders get back to where they belong.
Do you know the way to San Jose?
by eastcoasta'sfan on Sep 7, 2009 6:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jerry McDonald says not to worry
And has some very plausible speculations as to what’s up with the whole “Where’s Richard?” saga currently playing out:
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/07/why-seymour-will-end-up-a-raider/
I tend to trust Jerry. He’s often right and is one of only a few members of the sports media—David White is another—who isn’t a hater and is very fair minded, giving both praise and criticism when they’re deserved.
by Raybin on Sep 7, 2009 7:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jerry is right on
everybody on this site and the national media like to focus on going to the Raiders as being his problem, that is not the problem, it is the wife, family, house etc. that is the problem. Hell, he would be upset if it was SD he was traded to, who wants to move a angry wife and children across country 6 days before the season starts? I think too many people on this site are too young, and single to understand what uprooting a family entails.
by Laoren on Sep 7, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have to agree
Plus it’s Labor Day weekend, for all we know Seymour was spending some time with his family before going through a grueling 4 months of work. Not exactly the best time to be jet-setting across the country and trying to get all of his affairs in order.
It’d be nice for him to report tomorrow and get all of this behind us though.
by LiveAdam on Sep 7, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seymour
I cannot disagree with eastcoasta’sfan analysis from the silver & black’s perspective, but I am a Patriots fan and I am sorry to see him go. The point being, you have to take into account what kind of player he is. He is everything to the young guys and the entire locker room. He is Rodney Harrison when he came to the Patriots. I loved Rodney and even though he got hurt 3 of the years he was with us and ultimately had to retire he was an inspirational leader and that is what Seymour is. And Seymour is just 29 years old. He is invaluable in the locker room and team chemistry. And trust me boys, if it was only talent that mattered, most teams have very similar talent – it’s the heart and championship players that make all the difference. MFM
by TheGoldenBoy on Sep 7, 2009 7:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's a shocker....media members full of shit
Picked this up from a commenter in that link I posted above:
Profootballcentral.com says Seymour will be in Oakland tomorrow for his physical. He just wanted to spend Labor Day with his family before leaving them and having to go across the country unexpectedly. What a shocker! All media bullshitters can please STFU now.
And people wonder why Raider fans get this impression the sports media is against us? Maybe because, I don’t know….they turn a guy wanting to spend time with his family into a story about how angry he is to be going to Oakland and how he might hold out.
by Raybin on Sep 7, 2009 7:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
damn the media is dumb. how did nobody guess that, it’s a holiday and he wants to spend time with his family. They just automatically assumed he didn’t want to come to the raiders. that’s pathetic.
by duballers23 on Sep 7, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We Will Laugh Last...
But when they start scheming us the way these guys did, and we weren't particularly ready for it, anything can happen."
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Sep 8, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's another load of crap to chew on
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/07/harrison-seymours-not-thrilled-with-deal-to-raiders/
It’s (here’s a shocker) Rodney Harrison shooting off his mouth.
Go read what Harrison has to say carefully. The ONLY words that come out of his mouth that claim to reflect what Seymour has to think is that he’s “not thrilled” by the trade. And honestly….I don’t blame him. Look, I’m not gonna pretend that everything is sunshine and marshmallows in Raiderland and that every player in the world wants to put on silver and black. It’s in an ugly six-year slide and there are some seriously fucked up things about the organization. We all know that. Who would volunteer to go from a perennial Super Bowl contender to franchise with a lot of troubles?
That being said, the rest of that quote is ALL Harrison’s bullshit opinion, but I promise you you’ll see it quoted as reflection Seymour’s. He even goes on to outright make shit up and claim that the team has no confidence in JaMarcus Russell. Really Rodney? What fucking inside sources told you that? I’m gonna guess all your steroids have rotted your damn brain.
by Raybin on Sep 7, 2009 7:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The media's all full of sheot!! The Raiders have really won the last 10 championships!!
This just never gets reported!!
by Bacon on Sep 7, 2009 7:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that's exactly what I said Bacon
You are such a joke. I know I’m just feeding whatever awful insecurities drive you by responding to your nonsense but I can’t help myself. Saint is nicer than I am; if this were my blog I would’ve banned you a long time ago. Fans of other teams coming here to talk good-natured smack is one thing, but you just come here to be disruptive and to be an annoying little shit. Congratulations, you’re good at it. I guess everyone needs their jollies in some way. Personally, I’d recommend you try something like women or friends or at least booze. But hey, whatever gets it done for ya.
by Raybin on Sep 7, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why would you respond to Bacon?
His comments tell you all you need to know about him, ignore him the guys at ESPN who know nothing and parrot the same old mantra time and time again. It is something that Raider fans have to accept until they start winning again, that is just the reality. When they do then Bacon and the ESPN hacks will crawl back into their little holes and hide.
by Laoren on Sep 7, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, I know
99.9% of the time I just scroll past him. Couldn’t do it this once though.
by Raybin on Sep 7, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyway...
I dont blame you for givin it to him.. As much as it probably just fuels his lil fire.. I think you did yourself justice..
by raider_fan83 on Sep 7, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1. How dare he come on this site and talk about reality like it actually exists!!
Phuck Bacon and his truth!!!!!
by Bacon on Sep 7, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Committed to Excellence
I think that Im tired of all the BS media bad mouthing my beloved Raiders.. Al Davis finally got his head outta his hind end and made a strong move. We got Heyward-Bey in the draft which is better than Crabtree. Now we finally salitified our D-Line and we get critisized. Our Defense is in the top 5 in pass D now we will be in the Top 5 in total.. You cant pass against us and now you cant run against us.. That sounds like a problem for any offense that has to contend with the point we will be putting up this year. I was predicting an 8-8 season without Seymore… Now definately 10-6.. Playoffs here we come.. The RAIDER NATION is back baby…
by raider_fan83 on Sep 7, 2009 8:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sadly . . .
you CAN pass against the Raiders, you just didn’t HAVE TO last year. When you’re up by 20+ pts on a team that can neither pass nor run, you just run the ball.
Seymour helps this year because he will make the run defense better. But it doesn’t matter.
Do you know the way to San Jose?
by eastcoasta'sfan on Sep 7, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course it matters!
A first round draft pick is a high price, but you do not turn a team around simply by having high draft picks. The Raiders have their high draft picks and now they need to learn how to win.
Seymour will help them learn how to win. Not only with his attitude and ethic but also with his talent. If this helps solidify the d line against the effects will be felt throught the whole defense.
Stuffing the run will force team into passing situations. Where the Raiders will be able to use their speedy lb’s to blitz while utilizing the shutdown man CB skills. Which will also hide some of the coverage deficiencies of the safties.
I am not saying this move will catapault them to the super bowl and probably not even the playoffs. And I realize, as you pointed out, that the championship is the ultimate goal, but this is a step that is necessary for this group to become a championship caliber team.
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
by noontide on Sep 8, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is that this move will prevent them getting to the championship
Count the # of 32 year old DT’s in the NFL. Richard Seymour will not be in the NFL in 2011. If the Raiders sign him beyond this year, they will still be paying him big money in 2011.
Which would you rather have – a 2011 draft pick, or a hole in your lineup that drains budget and salary cap? The choice is easy.
Leadership is nice, but just about everyone in the NFL was THE leader on their college team and can be so in the NFL. Leadership comes from the top. If you need leadership on the team, fire the coach. Oops, did that already. And will do so again. And it won’t matter.
The move DOES make sense for Al Davis, who might not have a 3 year horizon in life at this point. But not for anyone else.
Do you know the way to San Jose?
by eastcoasta'sfan on Sep 8, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The choice you presented is easy but it is not the whole picture
I would rather have a team that has a building sense of momentum then an ’11 draft pick and a team that is continuing to build a tradition of losing and apathy.
It is about more than leadership. It is about having the talent to be competitive. And Seymour helps the Raiders have the talent to be succesful on D.
The greatest coach in the world will have a hard time instilling a winning culture on a team with a defense that is defenseless against the run.
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
by noontide on Sep 8, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys did okay.
From a Pat’s perspective this was a steal for them.
But really, the Raiders make out too. They need help NOW. No, this isn’t going to get them to the Super Bowl, but when your team is bearing the brunt of jokes constantly sometimes just getting back to respectability means everything.
Seymour is still a good player. No, he isn’t the pro bowl guy of a few years back, but when motivated he can be close to that still. He is greedy. You will have to pay him if you want to keep him. But I believe you don’t have too many stars at this point that you have to shower with money, so that is doable I think.
Who the fuck knows what that pick in 2011 will turn out to be? BB will probably make a good pick, but would Davis? Sometimes it’s worth taking a loan from the future to make the present bearable. Getting back to respectability also makes FAs more likely to consider coming into the program.
I’m glad Seymour’s gone. I have the luxury of being glad he is gone. He pissed me off with his holdouts. But he still got game. Can’t take that away from him.
This trade works for both teams. Hopefully he gets his greedy ass in S&B immediately and helps you out.
Warm up the Duck Boats!!!
by BabeParilli on Sep 8, 2009 12:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
From a Pat's perspective
Was Seymour’s effort something that fans often had a problem with?
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
by noontide on Sep 8, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not with his rookie contract.
But when he held out and got some real money, he just wasn’t the same with intensity. He is so talented he still draws double teams though. It is said he turns it on and off. I agree from what I have seen the last few years.
Once the Patriot fans love a player they generally overlook a drop off in performance.
Me……. not so much.
Warm up the Duck Boats!!!
by BabeParilli on Sep 8, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a bit disturbing to hear.
This being the case I am not sure how anxious I am for the Raiders to sign him to an extension. I think I would rather have one year of him busting his ass for a contract than many of him turning it off and on. Which could quickly turn in to being mostly off.
Wherever I go, that's where I am.
by noontide on Sep 8, 2009 2:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
don't forget franchise tag
he needs to come in and play with a chip on his shoulder because he got traded and play because it’s a contract year. Raiders do not need to sign at end of year if we place the franchise tag. we can also place the tag the following year. not ideal scenario as he has a habit of holding out. AD typically likes to take care of his players. if he shows up and play, Seymour will get fair market for a player above 30. Bottom line, we need to win games to justify sending a 1st pick even if it’s 2 years away.
by raiders4liffe on Sep 8, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are u serious
As I admire your optimizm and loyalty to your team, you may want to take a realistic approach of the second worst team in the leauge. The only thing The Rayda’s have going for them is that they are not the Detroit Lions. Really….Heyward-Bey? They cut Jeff Garcia, Russel is a bust, they cant decide on a running back, they have a truck load of cash buried in marginal players at best. Javon Walker? I hope you are being paid for this blog, because you have no reason for hope for this team. I recommend thinking about rooting for a 2nfl team, along with your Raiders so this season wont be a total waste for you. As a Lion fan, I chose the best run team closest to me and last season was almost tolerable with Pittsburg. I wasted 25 years I will never get back supporting the worst franchise in all of sports. Believe me, its not worth it. Start fresh with the Texans maybe. They are in a typhoon of a division, but they seem to be on the right track. Al Davis and Jerry Jones seem to be cut from the same cloth, but at least Dallas is competitive. Tennesee is not an arch rival of yours and Jeff Fischer is an excellent coach. So stay away from the sharp objects and get a good fantasy team to distract you from what will be a nightmare of a season. Dont worry, you wont go 0 and 16 like the Lions. I would say look forward to the 2010 Draft…but…you know.
Good Luck
by Johnbaca12 on Sep 8, 2009 1:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That would be somewhat of a cop-out don't you think?
The decision making over the past 7 years (including trading Jon Gruden) has been directly responsible for the current state of the franchise. I agree the team shows no sense of direction, nor much hope for a dramatic turnaround. However, no professional franchise is perfect and every team goes through ups and downs. I mean it was 6 years ago when many of us trecked down to San Diego to watch the team in the Super Bowl, but several years of ineptitude makes it seem like ages ago. Go back 10 years and many of the top teams of today were struggling for relevance…New England, Colts, Chargers.
The Raiders have never had a bad run like this before, and it’s driving the owner mad to the point of deparate insanity (or so it seems at times).
I still enjoy watching NFL games, no matter if I have a rooting interest or not. So wasting time finding another rooting interest is futile, because eventually you will have to do it all over again.
"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."
by S Jay Bruin on Sep 8, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, it's the owner driving the fans nuts
I can’t see any real hope for the team while Davis still controls the decision making.
Do you know the way to San Jose?
by eastcoasta'sfan on Sep 8, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
From a football operations standpoint, the team is well beyond a need for a change of leadership at the top. Continuing to run through coaches is only making matters worse to the point where some college coordinator jobs are better opportunities than coaching the Raiders.
From a business standpoint, the team is failing as well. Now last in the league in overall value, can’t market the team properly to sell out the stadium on a regular basis. And the prospects for a new stadium seem minimal at this time.
"If you don't take out his battery, he's going to keep going all day."
by S Jay Bruin on Sep 9, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who are the Raiders usinjg their other 2 PS spots for?
I only see 6 listed
by raiders1980 on Sep 8, 2009 2:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok, we got jokes going on here, but I thought this was about Raider football
True the Raiders have not been a good team as of late, and for all my Raiders fans, when you have a team that has created so much havoc on opposing teams, please understand that when finally down absolutely everyone that has watched their teams get thier as-ses kicked throughout history will show up. I played with Larry McGrew in High School, he was a Patriot of 10 years, we went our seperate ways to play D-1 ball, however, growing up as Raider fans when he got to the Patriots he used to tell me that even then teams would have to be mentally prepared to see the Raiders. Guys right now we have to let people say what they want to say. Winning quiets everything, and trust there will be silence soon.
Now back to football, Seymour for a first rounder is a little of a reach, only because of his age not his play. He will help in a big way with his play and leadership and I am sure if the Raiders can play well his being here will be a sure bonus.
I still think we need to look and LB’s and DB’s, isn’t Ty Law still available, if in shape he should be given a tryout as well as Adam Jones. I just look forward to kickoff to really see the Raiders play. Being born and raised in East Oakland, I can say this with conviction, it is safe to talk smack on this blog, but a trip to Oakland will show you who is tough and I guarantee you will go home with much respect for the city and the toughness of its residents, because you will truly put your very existence on the line with the attitude displayed on this blog. And this is directed a FYRF’s. We are here to share our thoughts about our Raider team, not read and be disrespected by racist and degrading comments. Any doubt come visit the town and display that attitude personally any where in the city, North, West or East, I can assure you, I guarantee, you will be properly served up.
by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 8, 2009 4:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
My toughest high school teammate – also a big raiders fan – played college ball at sac state, now lives in oakland. He’d tear FYRF a new one if he met him.
I don’t think Ty is in shape. I think we’re in for a tough year. Or three. That’s why I don’t like the Seymour deal. Big reach. No other team would have given that. And now you’ve got to wonder if he’ll show up.
Talk in New England is that Seymour must have done something to really tick Belichick off to get dealt to the Raiders. Kinda hurts, doesn’t it?
Do you know the way to San Jose?
by eastcoasta'sfan on Sep 8, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Seymour
If Seymour was to retire and not show up to the Raiders or even sit out for the year. Do the Raiders still loose there 1st draft spot in the 2011 draft?
by RaiderDave on Sep 8, 2009 9:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wake up
Wtf are you smokin in your (comfy new leather seat)?!
by Jreal1 on Sep 9, 2009 2:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No RaiderDave, Seymour has to report and pass a physical before a trade can be
officially completed. If Seymour decided to retire without ever reporting, the trade would be nullified and the Raiders would not owe a draft pick. eastcoasta’sfan I live in Indianapolis, IN, however, i am born and raised in Oakland, went to High School and College in the Bay Area as well. So I understand being a Raiders fan in a city with a great team. The Raiders if they play well can do alright, however, they will have to play well. This team does not have the luxury of not playing well and winning. I will say, this roster has the potential to put up some wins especially if Seymour reports, which may happen today. So lets keep our fingers crossed, and hope they are going to execute on Monday.
by Rodney Sacramento on Sep 9, 2009 3:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wonderful pick up!
this is very good indeed but he needs to show up and hopefully he does.
by Gregory T on Sep 9, 2009 7:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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