All Hell Is Breaking Loose At The Top Of The AFC West!!!
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jan 19, 2010 6:33 AM PST
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Man, the season isn't even over yet and we have already seen the San Diego Chargers go DOWN in flames AGAIN. This time with a kicking performance that makes that poor kid in Ace Ventura Pet Detective look like Adam Vinatieri. And, you have to be looking at "Normal" Norv's position as "In the air" after having one of the best regular season winning records of any coach during his tenure in San Diego, yet, he cannot get his team to perform up to expectations in the post-season.
UPDATE: Norv Turner has signed a 3 Year Contract Extension.
Then in Denver, Head Coach, Josh McDaniels, is running wild with the organization once again. In a quick fix to find blame for an epic failure, starting off 6-0 and missing the Playoffs, he has decided to part ways with Mike Nolan and bring in ANOTHER former Patriot, some guy names Pees. (rumor is that Carrots and Potatoes are not far behind)
Nevermind that Nolan turned the team from the 26th best defense to the 6th best defense in the matter of one year, he is now likely headed to Miami. (In fact, Adam Schefter just confirmed this on his Twitter)
This is also after benching Schefter (Haha, Nice One Adam, It IS actually Scheffler) and Marshall for the final game of the season and jettisoning their star QB before the season started.
All the while all is quiet at the bottom of the Division. There is no chaos to report, in fact, Kansas City has improved their Coaching ranks considerably by adding Romeo Cronell and Charlie Weiss as Deffensive and Offensive Coordinators and the Raiders are "business as usual" with no overt sign if overhead projectors or claims of liars infiltrating the building.
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AFC West Recap
- The Chargers choked again.
- The Broncos lost a fabulous defensive coordinator.
- The Chiefs have done a great job with their coaching staff.
- The Raiders are, well, I don’t even know. Let’s grab an offensive coordinator already.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 19, 2010 6:41 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Chiefs deserve the nod. Respect you for that, RRS
Say what you will about the Pats, and hate them as you should, but respect them, for their disciples know this game we love, and just do the right things.
Matt Cassell, excluded. I believe Coach H. will grow tired of this NE reject, and realize he is not a franchise qb. He could, however, be as good as KO was for the Broncs.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
And the Chiefs win the West with a 6-win season...?
If Mini Anden and Percy Harvin had a kid, and that kid grew up to play Syracuse basketball….ragnarok.
Creator of the Cameron Wake "Crossing the Border" Award
by Farorefox on Jan 19, 2010 6:51 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
The storm this weekend will shake a lot of stuff free and being on the West Coast,
Al benefits by having it falling throughout the day. He may be waiting to see what’s lying on the ground by the time he strolls in at 4:30 this afternoon.
Too early
I am guessing that 430pm is still too early for him to go into the office.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Jan 19, 2010 6:55 AM PST up reply actions
Just have a rare hunch, nothing will happen, at least for the rest of this day, and tomorrow
All bets are off late Thursday, (Al’s morning) when hopefully, the Nation can rest assured their fears, that Tom Cable, will remain HC of the Oakland Raiders, will be announced.
Granted, I have expressed, Tom will be the lesser of all evils. But my decision to be delusional about the Raiders future and that we’ll make a super bowl run with the Raiders when we resign Mark Trestman, marking the first time in recent years Al makes a gesture that demonstrates his admission of mistakes past, and it is the beginning of the end of the downward spiral into which we have fallen.
And then, I wake up.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Didn't the rehire of Art Shell
constitute a admission of mistakes?
:) it’s a joke.
But yea, we won’t be seeing a superbowl w/ Cable at the helm. Personally if he stays, I don’t see him lasting the season.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
I remember
Does anyone else remember when the AFC West was the strength of the AFC with atleast 2 or 3 teams making the playoffs every year? Wow the mighty have fallen. I am trying to be positive and hope that there will be more in Oakland than a projector press conference with paranoid diatribes like the late Howard Hughs.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Jan 19, 2010 6:54 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Cable's nothing like Kiffin, so that's just not in the works. Besides, I think that whole drama
took a lot out of Al and he’s the last person who wants to have it repeated. No, Al will simply demote Cable to assistant equipment manager, personal attendant, or axillary to Major Domo, Herrera and take something that shook loose recently as the new HC.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 19, 2010 7:01 AM PST up reply actions
I differ slightly
I doubt he will demote him. It will either be a total severence with Cable being fired complete with a projector conference OR he will keep him on to be HC to see what ranspires next season. The reason for keeping him on would be that any candidate with the credentials wont come to coach us because they will have to be willing to bow down and its master’s bidding.
A new HC anatomity with accountability.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Jan 19, 2010 7:14 AM PST up reply actions
I'm holding strong that your predictions of Al's responses--
those I might consider a lucid Raider fan capable of producing—become reality.
Let Al heed the Nation’s call: make the same mistakes no more! Get some help to at least bounce your prospects to and fro, and respect their advice; draft accordingly; distribute the almighty dollars wisely, and be careful so you do not ruin lives with that money (this is Jamarcus, but i could make an argument about how he’s ruined our lives with it for the last 8 years!).
But the question remains: Can he be considered a lucid Raider fan? The fact he can’t even realize he is in desperate need of help scream this label has long expired for Mr. Davis; the fan part, you can never question.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
I recall those days as well.
Being a Seahawk fan, I thought they were the glory days of the AFC West, those early-to-mid 80’s years. I remember the year we beat you twice during the season— then you took us in the AFC Championship game on your way to being SB champs. Prior to 05 that was the Hawk highwater mark
I miss our AFC West rivalries, and St.Louis, SF and AZ just don’t do it for me like the Broncos and Raiders. Saw this post on the SB new-article flash on the side page and decided to pop in. Gotta love the destruction Josh Mishandles has put on the Broncos. It reminds me of the Ken Behring ownership days in Seattle…
Oh, a couple more notes… you guys will love this— our main poster, John Morgan put up a post commenting on the Josh McDaniels thing. It’s worth the read..
Also— our AFC West roots allow us to agree on something— how much the Broncos suck. Seattle has Denver’s 1st round pick this year, and when the Broncos got out to a hot start, a Bronco troll came over to our site to talk crap. In this thread I let him (and all Denver fans) have it. Hope you guys appreciate.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Jan 19, 2010 7:20 AM PST up reply actions
Will be fun next season...
Chargers choke
Broncos choke
Raiders won games they shouldn’t have
Chiefs gained momentum at the end of the season
Let’s see what happens. Good luck to you Raiders!
Hali, Johnson, Vrable, Mays, Williams, Studebaker, Belcher
-Come Get Some-
How much you wanna bet
Joey Porter ends up in Oakland?
If Mini Anden and Percy Harvin had a kid, and that kid grew up to play Syracuse basketball….ragnarok.
Creator of the Cameron Wake "Crossing the Border" Award
Winner of the Pats Pulpit "Best Thread-Jacking" Award
Unlikely
I am sure there are other offers out there he’d accept first.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 19, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
I am still lauging about it!!!
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jan 19, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
i know, and there's a touching story going with the photo
by Spirals galore on Jan 19, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
vintage JaMarcass - and that that "royal train" - no words
“His stellar high school career at Williamson, his outstanding years as a quarterback at LSU, the places he has played football in his life, he said, will be reflected in his royal attire, too. What’s it like to be standing on the field when 70,000 fans screaming in the stands?
“I tune it out. What’s going on around me is what my mind’s locked on.”
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 19, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
such virtue, such dedication, such nobleness ... such bullshit
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 19, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
He definitely didn't tune out the boos
He made some comments about them the first time.
Win, Lose, or Tie, Raiders til I die!
the OC/DC of the chiefs?
correct me if i am wrong but werent weis and crennel the oc/dc of the patriots during the multi-title run from a few years back?
Hmmmm
…he has decided to part ways with Mike Nolan and bring in ANOTHER former Patriot, some guy names Pees.
Some guy? He’s been with Boston for a while now. He’s been DC over there since ‘06. His defense sparred against McDaniels’ offense every time they practiced, every year McD was a OC over there. He knows what he’s buying. There shouldn’t be any surprises or hickups to the continued transition on Denver’s defensive side of the ball. This is a good thing.
Way off subject. What’s up with Seymour? He gonna get franchised or what? Who else might get franchised? Having you guys been looking at replacing J-Russ at # 8? What’s the consensus here for that pick? You don’t have your eye on McClain do you?
Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!
answers
Seymour is just fine, as far as I can tell. He has been a leader on Defense and looks to have embraced his role in Oakland. He will be Franchised or signed long term. Sea-Bass would be next.
As far as coordinators, Weiss and Cronell were as good as it gets. Nolan is definitely the best defensive coordinator in the NFL right now and McDaniel was outclassed, in my opinion.
As for the draft, Mclain or McCoy are my choice.
Gradkowski is our Quarterback. He earned it.
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Jan 19, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
The Nation believes in Bruce G!
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Thanks for the response!
What’s up with Morrision then? He had a good year again didn’t he? He’s restricted this year right? Can you guys afford to keep him and pay McClain #8 money? Or do you think somebody will offer his tender or what?
McCoy? You mean Gerald McCoy? Think he’ll still be there by #8?
Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!
Raiders not standing pat- new head Coach on the way!
Wonderful piece of news today. Al’s interviewing two nobodys to replace Cable,and a potential “O” coordinator if and when he manages to hire a new Coach. THIS IS THE PROBLEM RAIDER NATION! Any other team would hire a new head Coach and let HIM assemble HIS staff. Not here, and not while Mr. Davis is around to pull the puppet strings. This is why no credible Coach would take the job. Al hires his associates and chooses his draft picks for him , the players realize the “Coach” has no real authority and they act and play like it. This will get uglier before it gets better Nation, so get ready for another s H i T T y draft, another $hi TTy head Coach and another puke ugly season. It’s time to boycott going to Raider games and turn the black hole into the empty hole. Why ? Money (or the loss of it) is the only thing an Owner understands. Especially a CASH STRAPPED one who has been selling shares of the Team to stay in the" black ". What if they scheduled a home opener and nobody came?
There are limits. And if our patience is abused much more, i.e. in draft picks that miss our
obvious needs, I may join you in your “tough love” strategy.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Jan 20, 2010 7:32 AM PST up reply actions
AbsoF'ingLutely
I have said the same thing regarding the puppet master and the way things are run from the top. I see only good things if the throne is abdicated.
Win at all costs! Winning ugly is still winning! Remember the past and what got us to the top before. Jim Plunkett and winning ugly......enough said!
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Jan 20, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
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