One Tasty Cold Dish!
by Rich Langford on Oct 10, 2010 11:36 PM PDT
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It's official, Raiderdamus weighs the same as a duck (click the link if you don't get the reference). Anyway, Raiderdamus improved to 5-0 and was only off 5 points with a predicted score of 34-23. The Great One shall have a new assistant this week and...it was a tie. Sons predicted 31-27 and then TexasRaider quickly followed with the same. They shall fight to the death this week to see who is worthy of serving under The Master.
In case they wuss out, TexasRaider email me, 'cause Sons can post his own predictions!
Rated-R, where are you? I miss his awesome post game wrap-ups. Anyway, we need a thread. I am going to re-watch the game and see what things stick out after a more analytical viewing, but for now? Fuck yes! Rejoice! To kick it off, a quick recap of the roller coaster last 3:38 of this game.
The Raiders missed the two point conversion and I was resigned to a solid effort yet a loss on last second field goal. It's happened too many times before. Hell, it happened last year! And last year the Chargers only had 2:30 left on the clock instead of 3:38.
The Raiders were just giving up way too many yards in the air to keep the Chargers out of field goal range. I am not going to lie, it actually floated through my head that they should just let them return the kickoff for a touchdown so they would have time to score again.
The Chargers started off their possession on the 28 and four quick and painful plays later, they had it on the Raiders 40 at the two-minute warning. Things were not looking good. They were already in the field goal window. One play later and they were six yards closer. It felt like I was just hoping against the inevitable.
The Raiders held on the next play and forced a 3rd and 4. They held again! It looked to be a long field goal attempt, until the yellow tissue fell in slow motion horror. PI on CJ, ball at the Raiders 23. "Game over!" I yelled to a room full of people who looked at me like I was crazy for ever thinking anything different.
A funny thing was happening though. The Raiders were blitzing and they were getting pressure. They had to knock 'em out of field goal range. It made sense and they were actually doing it! They were trying to dictate the action and it began to work.
Antonio Gates was called for holding on the next play. "Back to long field goal range!" I was trying not to get my hopes up. It was now 1st and 20 on the Raiders 33. "Keep bringing it," I was shouting, "you got them rattled!"
Hope was creeping back in. More pressure on the next play and another incompletion forced 2nd and 20. I wondered if they'd back off the pressure just to try and throw off the timing. Nope! More pressure and this time Michael Huff made a tackle bigger than any he has missed and knocked the ball out of Rivers hand. I thought it was another incompletion. It looked like his hand was going forward.
Branch picked up the ball and started running. There were no whistles. Branch scored easily and did a dance that contained 6+ years of Raiders frustration. I was getting excited, but something inside kept telling me that was getting called back.
They called for the review. The replays showed the ball out of his hand before it started moving forward, but it was close. There is something about QB fumbles in replays that fill me with a sense of doom. So, even as the ref said, "the play stands as called," I had a hard time believing it.
There was still about a minute of worry left, but the Raiders held and I could finally let go! This victory was sweet!
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Damn it! I typo'd Shaughnessy's name in the poll!
If it means anything big fella, I voted for ya!
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
All the players above...Plus
That was a total team effort. They are all the players of the game.
I also like to say, thank you coaches for firing JLH as a punt returner and hiring Nick Miller for the job.
The Raiders D held the Chargers running game down. this time the LB’s were sealing off the gaps. Wimbley, Scott and McClain all did well.
The Chargers passing game. Well, I hate Phillip Rivers probably as much as I hate John Elway, but I have to say, he puts the ball on the money in any coverage anywhere on the field.
noon, when you re-watch the game, you will notice, surprisingly how well Mike Mitchell was in coverage. A very good sign.
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
this time the LB’s were sealing off the gaps. Wimbley, Scott and McClain all did well.
Agreed, but today we learned Scott and Wimbley cant play full time LB together due to lack of coverage skills. I think in the future we should see them together but not all the time. Scott should go back to being a 50/50 guy and although they were out Groves and Howard should be in on passing downs
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
yep
Shaughnessy should be starting at DE over Scott.Scott should be moved back to LB on run downs only once Howard and wimbley get back(this week i hope)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by raiderrob67 on Oct 11, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Scott was moved back to OLB since Groves was injured.
That forced them to start Shaughnessy at DE. It proved to help since they had to blitz more it showed the run defense was much better than they have been all year.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
When Miller busted that return off the first thing I thought was somewhere
TheRaiderWay is shouting, “I told you!” That was an awesome return. He could’ve beat the punter thought right?
Yeah Mitchell blew me away. He will definitely be one of the guys I watch.
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
by Rich Langford on Oct 11, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
The right arrangement of personnel and sustained desire – we were a team Sunday
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 11, 2010 5:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Such a hard poll
They all were so damn good. But I had to go with JC, those 2 long scoring drives were a thing of beauty. No doubt he should start next week. I’m concerned over the lack of pressure we got today, I think we should send Scott and Wimbley on more blitzes.
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
They finally started getting effective blitzes!
Wimbley seems to get a lot of pressure just as a D end. He has been great on passing downs with his hand on the ground.
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
by Rich Langford on Oct 11, 2010 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
IM JUS GLAD THE STUPID STREAK IS OVER
WE PLAYED HARD GOT THE WIN N THATS WHAT COUNTS NXT UP THOSE GAY BOYS FROM THE OTHERSIDE OF THE BAY ALL THOUGH I GOTTA ADMIT I ALMOSTED CRIED WHEN IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT IT WAS FUMBLE IT WAS 2 GOOD TO BE TRUE THIS WIN FEELS GOOD AS A FAN AND I HOPE IT FEELS EVEN BETTER TO OUR PLAYERS SO MAYBE THEY"LL CONTINUE WITH THE WINNING THINGY
Have to go with Jason. He played great today, and definitely threw himself back into the QB race. What’s your opinion the QB situation, noon?
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
Just posted a quick one on the fanshot, but to put it here
Campbell missed throwing to an open DHB at least twice. He still looked a little hesitant and then he had this comment after:
As I sat back and watched things the last two weeks, I just kept saying you have to take what the defense gives you and and you’ve got to play your game. Don’t let people change you or try or make you into someone different.
I can’t imagine the coaches are going to love this quote. His problem wasn’t trying to get what the defense gave him. It was looking for the short too quickly.
If Bruce is fully healthy and can practice, I’d start him, but I kinda doubt he will be 100 percent this week.
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
by Rich Langford on Oct 11, 2010 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see anything wrong with looking for the short too quickly. Short, simple and sweet passes to go along with a steady running game can win us games. When we’re looking 20-30 yards down the field everytime, it can end up in disaster. Ball control is key for us.
I agree nonetheless, if Bruce is ready to go, he should start. But if he isn’t, I have a feeling that Jason will win the full time job against SF if he leads us to victory.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
2-0 when making a QB switch.
I agree with you on the short and ball control, but not when there are options open long. Campbell just seems too quick to give up on those. The defense may give you something short, but you also have to give your guys a chance to take something long.
Whoever starts, I am just happy to have 2 QBs that don’t make me cringe. I get the feeling we will be seeing both of them again.
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
by Rich Langford on Oct 11, 2010 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions
i agree noon
especailly since we have that week ass o-line they will get beat up from time to time and also i say play the one movie the ball most effectively on sunday but in my heart its bruce i trust
The very antithesis of Al Davis
Davis: “We don’t take what the defense gives us, we take what we want”.
Bruce is better with this O-line, but his decision making this year so far has not been good. When he is injured as he is now, he can’t throw accurately even10 yards. I think they will stay with Campbell this week with a quick hook should he falter.
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
by TheRaiderWay on Oct 11, 2010 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions
if they do give
JC a second chance i hope he makes the most of it like he did today i dont think the question is whether or not he can can work with our offense its more of can he do it consitently week in and week out and be a leader at the same time cuz quite honestly when he replaced Bruce my heart dropped and i thought oh shit now were really fucked JC im quite happy to say suprised me today
I think he was refering to the other teams Deffence
when he said"you just have to play your game and not let other people change you"or he could have meant that the Coaches had been trying to get him to look for the short dump off and that’s not his game.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by raiderrob67 on Oct 11, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I voted for JC
Unfortunately, I couldn’t watch the game, but I was keeping up on my phone.
At one point I checked and Campbell was 3/8 for 38 in the first half.
He then came out and went a perfect 10/10 for 121yds in the second half. Way to step up, buddy.
by TexasRaider20 on Oct 11, 2010 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions
OH YEAH BLITZ! BLITZ! BLITZ!!!!!!!!
…….RANDOM THOUGHT MAYBE THE DOLTS COULD SIGN JAWALRUS TO FILL UP THAT HOLE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SPECIAL TEAMS
Having had a quick scan through the game thread
(I gave up reading it last night) I noticed a few of you guys got to finally know the horrorshow that is Sky Sports coverage. The English guy, Nick Halling, is not only an opinionated and ill-informed tool, but he’s also a Steelers fan. The main host, Kevin Cadle, used to be a basketball coach (I think) and has the job as far as I can tell because he’s American. His football knowledge can be summed up with this statement: he is a Bills fan. In between them is Johnny Random, a generic term for whichever hasbeen/neverwas they have found to porvide analysis this week.
Fun fact – Noone I know (especially those who have played in the British leagues) actually likes these guys
welcome to our world
The only upside is that the late Sunday game is shown on another channel, and has a guy called Mike Carlson doing analysis. The big difference here is that he has a clue, used to play TE in college and studies the game. He’s also not a totall asshat. Incidentally, he from time to time gets exclusive looks into the Pats as he was on Bellicheat’s lacrosse team at college. The monday night game is shown on ESPN so we get the same coverage now which is nice. I’ll take the evil soul suckers from Disney over the evil soul suckers from Sky (aka Rupert Murdoch’s evil empire) anyday.
wow you guys got it bad
my wife could break down and analyze a game of football better then thatgroup of clowns and she doesnt know shit bout football beyond the colors of my jersey’s lol
a 64 yd. fumble recovery
returned for a TD thats counts as finishing the game right ….wonder what marty would say today fucking hater
JC
is the now QB. Sons, say it “in Jason, we trust”! 72% completion rate, that’s crazy. Ok he’s shy about throwing bombs; he’ll get over it when he’s not benched for throwing INTs. Bruce hurt or not, he’s our best QB on the roster. reece should have caught that long ball and his stats would have been even more impressive. With DMAC and Bush, the offence will have a lot of jump.
When the entire team is focused, it doesn't need a dominant leading personality at QB
Jason played great today when Grad came out (just as Michael Bush was heroic with Darren out). It’s all about winning and Jason was a big part of this victory.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 11, 2010 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions
speaking of Bush,
DMAC/Bush combo can work. DMAC catching out of the backfield, Bush pounding will take pressure off whichever QB we use. JC finally showed an up tempo in the second half as he had that rythm and confidence. Beating the ’9ers is mandatory.
by raiders4liffe on Oct 11, 2010 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions
In truth,i think JC should have started the game
Only for the fact that Grad’s ACL injury from last week was not nearly ready to go.it was plane to see from his first attempt to his last the Grad’s was not 100%.I think that it worked out for the best in the end with JC coming off the bench..
Hopefully the last three weeks on the bench gave JC time to learn more about the system and his team mates.sometimes looking at things from the outside gives you a better perspective as to whats going on and what needs to be done.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by raiderrob67 on Oct 11, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Grad never had a torn ACL last season - MCLs they were. But the injury now isn't about his knees - they are okay
His RC got hammered 3 times in 2 games – twice taking on Houston’s Safety and yesterday being blindsided after Velvetdeer whiffed
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 11, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Great Game All Around, Considering !!
Despite With that, UGLY AZZ, Whiny Cry Me a River, Fucked up Fundamentally Throwing of a QB throwing for 421 yards, We Kicked San Diego’s azzz to end that fucked up Loosing Streak !!! We got the breaks we needed, CAPITALIZED on EVERY DAMN GIFT, damn near, And didn’t shoot ourselves in the Head, offensively(NO CRITICAL PENATIES By the OL) scoring when we had oppurtunities. I do believe SuperMario had NO CALLS against him !!! (that was BIG) The DEFENSE brought it to them, WHEN they were suppose too!!! And too top it off, The Charger Fan, that INVITED ME to go to the game with him, Had to eat some Fuckin Humble Pie, when it was over !!! Crossing the bridge from the Bart Station into the Coliseum, He so gleefully reminded me of the Streak ( 13 loss’s in a ROW ), and to this I said, THAT BS ENDS TODAY !!! oUUUUUIII that shit fills good !!!!
P.S. Campbell got unstuck, and moved his feet, when it was Necessary, and made some good throws, and even before Gradz got hit, he wasn’t throwing the ball like we’re acustomed to seeing Him. I think he was hurt last week with a bum shoulder, and that hit made it worst . JC should be/is the starter, until the NEXT, necessary change !!
rock cartwright
gets my vote as player of the day. He was EVERYWHERE on special teams. Lopers rolling fumble recovery is something I will remember for the rest of my life. But the alot of credit has to go to the play calling on the D. We saw alot of blitzing and it really worked towards the end.
Holy shit!
The coordinators made adjustments!!!! What? I loved the run and pass mix the last two touchdown drives. Michael Bush and Jason Campbell both played the games of their lives in my opinion. I think Jason should start only if Bruce is not 100%. However Bruce looked like he was jacked from the hit last week and Phillips reaggravated it. I also loved them bringing Huff on the blitz at the end. Please continue to blitz from everywhere. I will accept Alex Smith throwing for over 300 yards if it means we shut down the run and win the game.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
I agree completely on Rock
he got the ball rolling wit the first blocked punt. I’m still not crazy about giving up as many passing yards as we did, but we did a good job of limiting their running game and forcing fumbles…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 11, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I voted shaughnasty..
but i truly applaud the front 4, for pressuring Phillips all (most) of the game. What a way to finish a hard fought game. That my Raider Nation left no doubt in the minds of the sTd’s that we took this win, and they didn’t beat themselves.
Death is coming for everyone, and that makes living fun.
I'm happy as hell my prediction was wrong! lol
Failure builds character; success reveals it
I shall now retreat to my cave
To come up with predictions for the Niners game. What will be stronger, the Niners’ FAIL or the Raiders’ inability to win 2 straight games? RaiderDamus will tell you, later this week.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
Don't get over excited
I love my Raiders, always have, always will.. but we need to be realistic here.. although we finally beat the Chargers after a horrible losing streak to them, we still did not play all that well. We made way too many stupid mistakes.. had way too many penalties.. I am super happy to have bragging rights back against those bitc**s, but unless we can get past the basics.. we are not going to get far this season…
We won fair and square and it wasn't the conventional way - true. But, it was no fluke and we were far more physical
They’re a finesse team, heavily reliant on Rivers arm and a couple of excellent receivers. But we played team ball – all 3 elements.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 11, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
You should be most proud of the two long drives at the end
The Chargers D should be embarrassed. The commentator said that was the longest drive by the Raiders since 2007. And then you did it again the next drive. To me, you can throw everything else out. Based on those two drives alone, you deserved to win and the Chargers deserved to lose. I could care less about all of the other stupid calls or plays in the game. If we stop even one of those long drives, we win the game. So congrats.
Hopefully, this is the wake up call the Chargers needed. If losing a winnable game to the Raiders isn’t, then nothing will be.
Huff had a horrible game!
Granted he made up for it, he was giving up yards left and right, just like he has been all season. Had a great play but if he had been doing his job all game it wouldnt have come down to a field goal at the end. Give it to Shaughnessy and hope he stays there on the end and Scott or anyone but Groves plays WLB
Congrats on the win
It was a crazy game. Regardless of all the bad play on both sides, the bottom line is the Chargers deserved to lose. You can make whatever arguments you want either way, but you made two long drives down the field that we couldn’t stop. Even if you throw everything else out, that alone, was worth the “L” in the Chargers column, as far as I’m concerned. So, good game and congrats.
Anyway… having said that, I hope you all collectively choke on your next meal. I lived in Oakland for a while and, as a result, every Raider fan makes me want to vomit in my mouth and I hate your team with my entire being. But for now, you get the bragging rights. Enjoy it. You won the freaking game. Now please beat the Chief and Broncos. I’ll be rooting for you.
Finally, I don’t know if any of you have seen this link. But you’ll be happy to know, most of San Diego, myself included, felt exactly like this kid at this very moment. I think I’m going to nominate him for the Mayor of San Diego.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bLyjcXQmF0&feature=player_embedded
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