Why the Raiders' playing safe is anything but
Here is one of Tom Cable's responses to Q&A's today. I find it alarming because it betrays an attitude or mindset that is not at all aggressive and most unRaiderlike.
Q: Did the Chargers defend your WRs to the point where it opened things up for others, or were there things you didn’t exploit with the WRs?
Cable: "It really kind of played out like you thought it would. If you go back to the fist nine third-downs, we were 1 of 9. That’s where the game, to me, was never in our hands the right way, because we’re not able to stay on the field. I mean, hell, we block two punts, the defense is getting stops and if we score once or twice there off the two blocks, you’ve got a chance to kind of put this thing away and get into almost a 4-minute mode, if you will. But we were never able to do that, simply because of third down and just some bad throws, a couple of guy slipped coming out of breaks in their routes. All those fundamental things – get your weight over your toes, follow through when you throw and little things like that. And on top of it, continue to wanting to get better protection for your quarterback."
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2010/10/11/cable-qa-8/
If a team gets ahead then something is working and should be continued until it no longer is working. Why would any HC abandon what got a team ahead and go into a 4-minute mode (?) unless the HC did not believe in the means that got the lead to begin with. How can our players have confidence in such leadership?
Make no mistake, the Raiders won yesterday because they started using their defensive talent prudently, i.e. attacking the QB with blitzes. Rivers was eating up yards - 370 of them during the 1st Half and 3rd Qtr - and if we had not added the extra pressure on Rivers in the 4th Qtr by sending OLBs and/or Safeties we'd have lost the game. Same goes for St.Louis when we added the 5th man to the line in the 2nd Half and dominated the Rams from that moment on.
Next week we face a desperate team with another strong-armed QB who threw for over 300 yards and had 3 TD's in a losing effort. Alex Smith is a dangerous QB. But if you've followed Smith you'll appreciate that he cannot handle pressure. He will throw beautiful passes that move the chains until the blitz disrupts his timing and confidence and then he will collapse with fumbles and interceptions. But, if we wait around to Blitz next week, it is certain that we will be burned because our pass defense is still a shambles - across the boards.
It is not smart to waste these assets, OLB Trevor Scott and Kamerion Wimbley, Safeties Mitchell, Branch, Huff, Eugene and Brown, these athletes are natural born QB Terminators; yet they are wasted and being set up to fail - forced to stay back in pass-coverage with inadequate QB pressure. The result is our secondary being picked apart, shredded by better QBs. When we should be the aggressors bringing hell down upon QBs who would risk throwing against us.
This innate attitude of Oakland's HC - this lack of killer instinct - this desire for security and playing it safe - that is undermining and emasculating our team and season.
The Raiders might be able to win a Divisional crown at the most with this conservative "just don't lose" attitude. But they will never ever be dominating and intimidating or go any further under this sort of leadership.
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True!
So true. I like…no matter-fact i LOVED the D calls later in the game. The safety blitz is great (when used right). We came with the blitz and it worked! Why change it? The O was playing pretty well late as well, Hue called a couple of roll outs and play actions which helped us score. I think a light bulb is going off for these coaches. But the only way to really know is by watching the 49ers game. If we don’t bring it D and O wise like we did at the end of the game (with a hell of a lot better pass coverage) WE WILL LOSE to the 49ers.
Side Note: When Tommy Kelly got hurt and was out for a play we still looked good. I know its a way out there thought, but we could do pretty good with a 3-4 D. It would probably be hell if we changed it now but i think Huston and Shaughnessy at DE. Seymour at DT. Rolando and Scott in the mid. Wimbley and Mitchell on the outside or Branch in place of Mitchell. But Mitchell impressed me, he wrapped up his tackles and played descent coverage. That guy played like he wanted to win imo.
If we were to play a 3-4 Seymour would most likely be a DE with Houston, with either Kelly or Henderson at DT depending on the situation
by RyanTheRaider on Oct 12, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
If that means taking Matt Shaughnessy off the field then any advantage we gain is offset by his absence. He's one of best players
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 12, 2010 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think he means to slow down and get lazy SOB. The 4 minutes probably refers to just pound it out and let the clock wind down. Much like you would if you where up with 4 minutes left in the game. If anything this requires more aggresion, the Def. knows we are going to run the ball but guess what? We’re going to smash your face in with each brutal 4 yard run.
However, I do agree with you SOB. Cable to me just seems too soft when it comes to disciplining and pointing out player mis-plays. I just don’t think he means he wanted to take it easy durring the game.
One thing I'll say about the blitz
is that until this week, the Raiders blitzes had been ineffective. And an ineffective blitz is the worst thing a D can do. Also, they have to continue to stop the run first or it is almost impossible to blitz.
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
It's not one or the other. Gore is someone and something we've seen before. We dealt with
CJ, Steve Jackson, Wells & Hightower and Gore is somewhere in the middle and has ball security issues. There’s no secret our Safeties can’t cover and that’s where we’re being hit – which is a deeper ball that requires more time. We need to come with a 5 man DL against a pass dominant team like SF.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 11, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd say Gore is a poor man's Steven Jackson
Not much flash, just pick a hole and run straight through.
"God will understand. And if he does not understand, then he is not God, and we need not worry." -Orlando Bloom, Kingdom of Heaven
by angelesoterica on Oct 13, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
to kind of put this thing away and get into almost a 4-minute mode, if you will.
Keyword is almost!
SOB I know what your implying but I don’t see whars wrong with it. I felt like maybe he was saying he wanted to burn the clock alil…force SD to react to us instead of the othervway around. Let not act as if our offense is so potent that we can just bring the heat. Oline sucks..wr can’t get constant separation..and who knows what exactly his version of the ‘4min offense’ is. I think your reaching with this post but its understandable.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 8:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Actions speak louder than his words today. The fact is we resorted to attacking Rivers only after
Rivers had was dominating us 3 straight quarters. Same goes for Bradford and the Rams. Instead of adjusting right away or keeping things that we know are effective from previous weeks (as Hugh Jackson is doing on Offense) the D is slow to respond and adjust AND the D is the heart of the Raiders – the attitude and the philosophy comes through and what’s coming through is “Bend don’t Break” – I’m right about this.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 11, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions
SOB! are you saying that the outcone would gave been different had the changes been applied sooner?
so..your mad about the 400+ passing yards? maybe we could have won by 14 instead of 8. PR was killin us from blitzing early. When they look at film, hopefully adjustment would be made.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 9:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Is that supposed to be clever? Look, I'm concerned that we are mishandling our resources
The only way to beat Rivers is to get in his face, pressure him relentlessly and his passes will start going awry – as they did Sunday. Sure, we will get burned occasionally, but you know as well as I that we’re getting burned anyway. I would rather go down stomping ass than watching the backs of our Safeties sprinting vainly in pursuit.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 11, 2010 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
yes it was..but cant please everyone i suppose.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 9:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
we need to send two, count em, two players through the A gap
our ends do a great job of collapsing the pocked from the edge. Dick and Tommy occupy blockers, send Tyvon and Death Ro up the middle and one will run free right into Smif’s grill…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 12, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Ro's been doing well when he stays home and says, "One-thousand-one" before moving after the snap
Iupati (who we were drooling over) guards one of those A’s. But I’m for unleashing our gunners wherever effective
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 12, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
As much as we all liked
Iupati coming into the draft, he’s a still a rookie and can misread or mishandle blitzes, especially when it’s something that we haven’t shown…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 12, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
We went after Bradford early
Tyvon got a sack on the first 3 and out in that game. I’m not sure if we backed off the blitz or they adjusted after that, though.
Against, as Mike Irvin would call him, Alex SMIF, we need to bring pressure from different angles. I think we should either come out in a 4-2-5 or 3-3-5 setup. With the hybrid DE/LBs we have in Wimbley and Scott it won’t really matter all that much, but we need Mitchell on the field. He and Tyvon flow to the ball in run support very well, and all three of our Safeties are effective blitzers. Wimbley or Scott blitzing the A gap with an edge blitz from Mitchell would kick a whole lot of ass, too. I haven’t seen Death Ro be an effective blitzer, just yet, but we need to employ his inside blitz with another blitzer to guarantee that someone comes in untouched. It’s what the Jets and Ravens do, and SF does similar things with Whatyoutalkinbout…
Our coverage issues seem to be in zone more than man-to-man and can be corrected in film session. Tyvon doesn’t get deep enough in the cover 2 or tries to jump the intermediate route.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 12, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Cable does not have a leg to stand on
he doesn’t want to sound too sure of anything. This way he can always say “it went as we thought it would” if they win which is essentially what he says in your quote. He knows he’s a goner with anything less than 6 wins. We’re not out of the woods yet but couldn’’t ask for a better opponent for a rare shot at back to back wins.
The blocked punts got us ahead, the blitzes didn't work until the last 2 Chargers drives.
In fact during the bulk of the game Rivers was throwing to where the blitzer was coming from, for extremely easy completions – hence 400+ yards passing.
Cable’s point was that we got a decent lead from special teams but the offense could n’t do anything to keep the D off of the field.
Except for the fumble play Huff was getting totally worked over. Mitchell looked good when he was in. The secondary many times looked confused over which player they were supposed to be covering, maybe pre-snap they need to point at their guy.
Stop complaining, at least Cable looks better than Lane Kiffen, Mike White, Joe Bugel, Art Shell, Norv Turner and Bill Callahan.
by Oceanside Raider on Oct 11, 2010 8:54 PM PDT reply actions
Maybe im in the minority here but..
im not completely dissapointed with Cable. It just feels alil petty to crucify the man for a comment that he didn’t fully explain. Are there better coaches out there?..maybe..but shit man..why is it ok for us to suggest getting rid of Cable..or DMac..or Chaz..which sounds about as silly as the same shit AL does, and think its ok? For fans of a team that’s been low on win for 7+ years..how in the hell can we act as if this win should’ve been easier than expected by nitpicking a comment by a coach who has done wat he could to bring us from the doldrum of oblivion. Cmon Raider Nation..lets take this win a move on.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 8:57 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
We are not moving on if we lose Sunday. You seem to forget that Cable led teams can't put
back-to-back wins together. Do you ever ask yourself why that is? It’s called complacency. His comments above only reinforce my opinion – which is based on what I’ve watched over his time here.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 11, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
and apparently we dont move on after a win.
and by the way..why does everyonekeep saying we haven’t won back to back games in Cable administration? we were 1-4 last year..won 2 games in a row..Dick talked about playoffs then we colapsed soon after..I think. maybe someone can post our weekly wins from last year.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 9:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Besides being off, you sound very oddly complacent yourself - that would explain your defence of Cable
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 11, 2010 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
complacent!?
You call me complacent cuz I disagree with you? I agree I was wrong about the back to back..(must be thinkin bout Jafarticus) ..
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 9:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Glad you're not. Defending Cable's record as something defensable suggested complacency
It’s more his overall philosophy that troubles me because it’s weak.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 11, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Gotcha!
Maybe he doesn’t possess the Raider philosophy..I can go for that..I guess im looking at the past and saying to myself ‘This is a good problem to have by comparison’! I saw improvement in some areas..then we faultered in others. We need a better formula for our safety coverage. PR tested our backs and we failed badly..but were not quitting!
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 10:03 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
check your data
You are talking about 2009, right?
by Spirals galore on Oct 11, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Week Date Kickoff Opponent Results Game Site TV NFL Recap
Final score Team record
1 September 14 7:15pm PDT San Diego Chargers † L 20–24 0–1 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum ESPN Recap
2 September 20 10am PDT at Kansas City Chiefs W 13–10 1–1 Arrowhead Stadium CBS Recap
3 September 27 1:15pm PDT Denver Broncos L 3–23 1–2 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum CBS*
4 October 4 10am PDT at Houston Texans L 6–29 1–3 Reliant Stadium CBS
5 October 11 10am PDT at New York Giants L 7–44 1–4 Giants Stadium CBS
6 October 18 1:05pm PDT Philadelphia Eagles W 13–9 2–4 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Fox*
7 October 25 1:05pm PDT New York Jets † L 0–38 2–5 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum CBS*
8 November 1 1:05pm PST at San Diego Chargers L 16–24 2–6 Qualcomm Stadium CBS
9 Bye
10 November 15 1:05pm PST Kansas City Chiefs † L 10–16 2–7 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum CBS*
11 November 22 1:15pm PST Cincinnati Bengals W 20–17 3–7 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum CBS*
12 November 26 1:15pm PST at Dallas Cowboys † L 7–24 3–8 Cowboys Stadium CBS
13 December 6 10am PST at Pittsburgh Steelers W 27–24 4–8 Heinz Field CBS
14 December 13 1:05pm PST Washington Redskins L 13–34 4–9 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Fox*
15 December 20 1:05pm PST at Denver Broncos W 20–19 5–9 INVESCO Field at Mile High CBS Recap
16 December 27 10am PST at Cleveland Browns L 9–23 5–10 Cleveland Browns Stadium CBS
17 January 3 1:15pm PST Baltimore Ravens L 13–21 5–11 Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum CBS*
by Spirals galore on Oct 11, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
yea my bad..wasnt last year
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 9:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
which year was it - 2008?
We did win 2 games at the end of the 2008 season – against the Texans and Tampa Bay – too little too late.
by Spirals galore on Oct 11, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions
yea Spirals..i got my years mixed up..but we have had a back to back..just dudnt matter wgen we did. But atleast we kept the Bucs out the PO's
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 9:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, I understand
But I want more than second-hand glory. I met two of our players today and gave them big hugs along with a speech about SF, the wounded animal.
by Spirals galore on Oct 11, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions
My thing is...we dont dont get many win..none the less score 30+ points often
I can easily credit this loss on bad coaching by SD..but I won’t. Things couldve been better but it wasn’t, our aggressiveness paid off at the end but other than that I don’t know what the hell our DB’s was doing. Maybe if Huff don’t bite on every PA we prevent 1 td..but PR is a helluva qb, id gladly give him 400+ yrds for a win any day of the week.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 9:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
and we currently have a better record than the Cowgirls and the Minnesota Leif Ericksons lol
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 9:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
AFC West Injury update: Apparently Dawkins will be out for 2-3 weeks (we play them next week)
Robert Ayers is also out with a broken foot 2-3 months.
Damn… they are depleted, three of their main starters on D are out. (including Doom)
It will now be easier to shred their D as they will have no pass rush now.
The RaiderLaker
Hold your water and focus on what's at hand
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 11, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I know Sons, but I can't resist how depleted they are and how it seems very likely they will end up last in the Div.
But let’s do focus on these 49ers.
The RaiderLaker
That doesnt make then any less dangerous imo.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 9:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Please elaborate why you think that.
You play the game on O and D. Just because you seem scared of their O, doesn’t mean they are that good.
The RaiderLaker
Wow, there were more injuries. Their CB Andre Goodman, i'm pretty sure is a starter was also injured.
Darcel McBath too, and LB Woodyard…. lmao… for those who complain about Brad Roll this should calm you guys down, Brad isn’t that bad (they will all miss their week 6 matchup) That’s also what happens when you play the Ravens, those fuckers are crazy even on O they punish defenders.
The RaiderLaker
JaggerJaw..case in point..we had a laundry list of injuries. Did that make less dangerous?
you get me?
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 10:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Just checked - the single tickets for the SF game are sold out.
Who is going to this game? Unless we find tickets, we must go to Ricky’s…
by Spirals galore on Oct 11, 2010 10:01 PM PDT reply actions
I'm thinking with the 9ers turd of a season
that there may be some season ticket holders selling online for reasonable prices.
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
by Rich Langford on Oct 11, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
i doubt it... they wont budge for the nation...
they’d rather eat the tickets then sell it to a raider fan lower then face… trust me, i had to get tickets in July for this game.
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 11, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
im not saying the info isnt important..
but with our inconsistant defense..it still can be a nail biter.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 10:12 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
The preseason game was just that. Gore had two carries for 58 yards and Smith was 9 of 15
in the brief time he played / final score SF 28-24 and their starters didn’t play as much as our did.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 11, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
dont think its fair to play a team on PS in their house.then again during the season?
seems alil odd to me but oh well. Our (limited) blitz package could be fruitful against Smith/Carr. I could have swore I saw a 3-4 look? Good..different looks are crucial to defensive success..
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 11, 2010 10:28 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Seahawks are doing the same thing with Oakland
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
by Rich Langford on Oct 12, 2010 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think he's eluding to changing the way the defense played.
I think he was eluding to keeping the offense on the field. 1-9 on third downs is UNACCEPTABLE. Period. Thing is, we’re still having trouble protecting our quarterback, and finding our receivers. We won that game, because we got turnovers: something we HARDLY get. This team usually doesn’t get turnovers; we GIVE them. So, in a sense, Cable is right about trying to keep the offense on the field.
The defense played horrible when not Blitzing, everyone agrees on that. However, we, are NOT, the Jets. So, I say keep on with the Bltzing, but we have to be ready to adjust if the blitz gets picked apart.
I want the offense on the field more. End of story.
In Bruce We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Oct 11, 2010 10:48 PM PDT reply actions
a common theme in how to play the niners....
pressure Alex and he will crack… offense must score quick and create a big enough lead to sit back… let Alex Smith fight his back, just close enough to win… defenses reapplies pressure cause Alex Smith will recrack…
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
something i noticed that i forgot pointing out
anyone notice mike mitchell sprinting off the field to avoid 12 man on field penalty??? it was the play after CJ’s PI in before the fumble return… and we didnt have any timeouts to spare. it was crazy…
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
I hope ....
The Raiders hand the Niners another loss. I dont care how sloppy the game is as long as the Silver and Black end up with the win !
GO RAIDERS!!!!
Bongsmoke
I like your pic, what's it from?
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
by Rich Langford on Oct 12, 2010 2:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Do we actually have a head coach anymore?
Jackson runs the offense, Marshall runs the defense….just WTH is Cable doing these days besides the press conferences?
He manages the game, and helps plan the gameplan before the game. The plan, Gives the ok.
He is changing the losing culture, and he cleans up the facility after everyone leaves. Not a bad HC.
The RaiderLaker
How fucking LAME are WE looking and counting on another team's injuries to win?
Two weeks away no less! SOB is right on many things. 1: A blitz gone wrong will kill you. That’s why the COACHES must pick and choose when and who to run them on. The only sure way to beat Rivers is to stay in his face,period. Alex Smith and/or David Carr are the same way. 2: We have seen Frank Gore,should respect his talent and still come with a 5 man line to preasure the QB. Smith had 309 yds sun. , and Carr isn’t a bad QB by any means.3: I have preached all pre and regular season that this “D” is showing a bend don’t break mode. That’s wonderful compared to the last 7 years but sometime soon they must move on to the kick ass and destroy mode EVERY GAME. Special teams were the first to discover they could do it last Sun. and the “D” kind of jumped on the bandwagon,keep up the heat (like SOB said we were getting the shit smacked out of us anyway,so lets bloody some noses if we are going to get burned ). 4: We will not be moving on if we do not win this game on Sunday. For all intents and purposes this is a home game,and we must win it to stay competitive. The only thing that will move on after losing this game will be one of the head Coaches. To be sure, there are many coaches on a football team , all responsible for their individual squads play and performances. Jackson was brought in so Cable could focus on the big picture , and it hasn’t happened. Tom Flores sounds tougher and more definitive in the booth than Cable does in post game press conferences. Raider wet dream- Can you imagine what this squad could do under Gruden? LET’S START LOOKING AT OUR TEAM’S STRENGTHS , and believing in them, not how good we can do because of the other team’s injuries. Oh, Wide Receivers and “O” line, feel free to jump on the bandwagon too as your squads are on the team too, at least I think they are.R.F.F.R.
The 9rs have sold the game out and are grim, reserved and determined. They are making a stand and we better put our
party hats and blowers away and the cork back in the jug … we can take them out again Sunday night if we only focus
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 12, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Eagles beat 49ers 27-24
I assume you guys witnessed SF lose to Philly on Sunday night. If one thing was obviously clear, it is that the 49ers would have won the game if not for their own mistakes (5 turnovers). SOB was on point in stressing the need to put pressure on the QB; Alex Smith had to persuade Singletary not to replace him with David Carr at one point. The Raiders must understand that expecting their 4 defensive linemen to apply that pressure is not realistic; a 5th passrusher is needed in passing situations to apply that pressure and to keep the QB guessing. If the Raiders focus on stopping the run, and blitz regularly on passing downs (from the outset) then there is no reason they can’t beat SF this week, regardless of how desperate the49ers are for their first victory of the season.
I dont see how people can say we should dump Chaz , true hes been injured alot , but when he is healthy , he is by far the best receiver on the team, and if we do release him who do we sign? Is it worth the risk of losing him to another team? he is the only proven receiver on the team, he has size, speed,and good hands why give that up for another player who will most likely not play at all this season
Loper roll - THE definitive moment of the game!
A lineman who has the foresight to recover the fumble and realize it’s not enough for a first so he (knowing he’s untouched) rolls to get it, or try to. Shit, most backs and wide receivers don’t even think about that anymore. That’s when I knew EVERYBODY was on the train!
How far would Daniel have gone if he wasn't stopped? Ten yards? Loved the Loper Roll, very effective.
How far would Daniel have gone if he wasn’t stopped? Ten yards?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
What is Cable doing ???
Game planning ???? Ahhhhh ok !!! Final Say in Game Planning ?? Ahhhhhh oK ?!!! Mid Game adjustments ?? ahhhhhhhhh ok ?!!!! Final Say in Play Calling ?!!!! Yeah, right !!!
The best, and only thing Cable got going is, the players put out for Him, which is all good. But why was he brought here in the first place ? That’s the question that need to be asked, and anwsered !!!!
O-line was his first responsibility, and as it stands now, as HC, This is still, HIS ONLY responsibilty !!! And let’s face it, none of us are too damn happy about the play of O-Line. We are running the ball better than previous year’s, I give them that, cudos!!! Pass protection is the weakness, and for them not to bring in ANY decent competion for the current starters during the offseason is just a crime. Other than drafting the Rook’s, who we knew were both projects, Walker, and a late pickup of Daniel Loper. That so far has been his best decision !!! DaLope is a player !!!! Walker is who we thought he was when we let him go 4 yrs ago, just big !!! Henderson?? Well at least he had no calls against him last game.
Bottom line, Cable’s has to keep these guys playing hard, and aggressive, IF he wants to keep his job, because the O-line that he’s built right now, gets a grade of D+!!!
Rush blocking (with help from Marcel) is B grade, imo. So to get a to D+ overall would require
pass blocking to have an F+ which is a bit harsh. I’m giving the O-Line, therefore, a C (not that it’s consistently a C, sometimes it’s a D- sometime a B-).
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 12, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, maybe a little harsh, but......
considering the state of the O-LINE only, the grade isn’t as much to the line itself, but to the job Cable done with them !!!!!
Point to Davis not Cable for the defensive choices
This author is woefully in need of real facts. Tom Cable does not set the “philosophy” of the defense. Al Davis has been the defensive cooridinatorfor the Raiders for nearly half a century. If you had read between the lines in that press conference you would have heard Cable express this very fact.
John Marshall calls the plays on sundays and he is responsible for finally calling in the dogs – he had no choice if they wanted to win, so he went against what al davis wants (natural pressure from the front 4) and played the bears 4-6 which is the PERFECT system for this team as a base defense. Unfortunately, to Al, 4-6 is dinner time. Al has his philosophy and ways of doing things that are virtually nonnegotiable, that’s why he hires the staff, he wants to make sure they know who they must answer to – and it’s not Cable. I give Marshall credit for going against the grain and showing he has the nads to win. I know the players appreciate it because it utilizes the natural speed of the secondary. The Raiders defense needs to create instead of always reacting-reacting-reacting. Any O/C worth his salt can game plan the Raiders effectively because they know exactly where the defenders will be 85% of the time. That’s not good. Let’s hope Marshall builds on his newfound independence.
Al does set the overarching philosophy but come game time its in the hands of the coaches and
Timid Tom is has the final say as to game management and personnel. The fact that we have made major (and effective) defensive adjustments (last yr. Philadelphia, Cincinnati, this yr. St.Louis, StD) demonstrate that the Coaches have game-time control. Bottom line: if we win everyone is happy, including / especially Al Davis. So we need a HC with guts to do what’s right without trepidations of repercussions.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 13, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Cable foe GM
You can’t tell me Al alone was responsible for this offseason. He had a confidant… Cable. Hue is HC.
I don't think anything will happen to Cable whether or not they lose.
I think he should be fired since no one that would be able to have an impact on the organization will be found mid-season. However I am 100% in agreement to bring pressure all game long no matter what. Our team has speed that is being under-utilized. Same goes for Nnamdi not shadowing the opposing offense’s best receiver all game long. It’s like having a Ferrari and living in Germany. You have the Autobon to race on and never get a chance to take the damn car out of the garage.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar

































