A Glorious Look Back
This was really the first game that was a joy to re-watch this year. Here are a few fun bullet points before moving onto next weeks game against that other Bay Area team with a way, way, way worse record.
The Positive Pile
- Masters of the Inches
- This team still makes dumb mistakes, but they are not for lack of effort and that effort is winning them the game of inches. Nowhere was this more evident on three fumble plays.
- The first was one sliding under the radar. On the Raiders last scoring drive, Zach Miller fumbled. He may have been down he may not have. It didn't matter though, because Jacoby Ford recovered it. Ford was roughly 15 yards down-field from Miller when he caught it, but he came running back looking for someone to block even though Miller was getting tackled by 14 or 15 Chargers. He was just kind of bouncing around trying to figure out how to make himself useful when the ball came out. Then he stole the Chargers thunder and beat 3 of them to the ground and the ball to recover.
- The Unholy Roller: Daniel Loper...this is the only way an offensive lineman should ever advance the ball. A heads up play displaying the team's do-what-it-takes attitude.
- The other has not slid under the radar. Tom Cable pointed it out in his Q&A and TheRaiderWay posted it below. The Raiders defense was hungry for blood and it showed on that play. First, when the ball came out there were roughly 12 Raiders and Chargers closer to the ball than Tyvon Branch. Only one Charger went for it, while Tommy Kelly was diving and Branch were flying for it. Noticing this, Chris Johnson lit up the Charger going for the ball and Branch beat Kelly to the ball. There was literally a circle of 3 Chargers just standing around watching--all of whom, could have had the angle on Branch had they not been standing around. The one Charger who did try to get the angle was Rivers and he was alertly blocked by Huff. Rivers responded by throwing his arms in the air and whining for a block in the back. That play was a thing of beauty. The Chargers were Raiderhandled.
Things Masked By Victory
- The Big Plays
- Again the Raiders had two plays, this time in pass D, where they try to hand the opponents TDs. Thankfully, Rivers overthrew one of them.
- Pass Coverage Secondary
- Too many instances of confusion in assignments. Chris Johnson looks a little confused, which given the time he missed is somewhat understandable, but he needs to improve in assignment recognition.
- Pass Coverage LBs
- The Chargers are a tough task for any LBs with Sproles and Gates, but the LB were continually not even close. It was what was feared when the LB corp was expected to be Wimbley, Scott and McClain.
- Clock/TO management
- Some plays the Raiders just seem lost. It is hard to tell if they aren't getting the play soon enough or if guys aren't lining up right, but this needs to get better. They were lucky when the refs gifted them consecutive TOs, but what the hell? Why would an NFL team ever be confused lining up coming out of a TO?
- The other issue I had was on their final scoring drive. Once they crossed midfield the Raiders should have begun taking as much time as possible or go in a hurry up mode. Instead they were consistently running plays with 4 to 10 seconds left. They could have killed about another minute of game time.
- Blocking a 3-4 Pass Rush
- 2 of the 3 Chargers sacks came virtually untouched as the Raiders were confused as to who to pick up. Veldheer on the first and Carlisle on the second. Overall, the line was as solid as they have been, but the 9ers were fairly vanilla in their pass rush and the Raiders a steady diet of 3-4 teams coming up.
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Chargers came into this game thinking we were going to lay down.
They looked at our injury report and said ‘Fuck it! lets go half speed and prepare for next weeks matchup against the Rams’
The Loper Roll was awesome
There was a play were Huff blitzed and PR got rid of it seconds before the hit, Huff beasted yesterday.
Campbell impressed me also with his seamless intergration in the offense. Im a huge Campbell supporter, and we saw what happens when he gets time…but if Grad is able..let him start.
Was alil worried when Kelly went down, but he shook it off and played up to par.
Aso: There are some who will throw your way and test your rep!
Finally we make in game adjustments, you know, to keep JC from getting murdered.
Credit some of the penalties to like you said ‘Smelling blood’. Theres no excuse for it..but I clearly saw a team willing to carry there wounded through a blaze for that extra yard.
Hope we didn’t spend our load on this game..keepem focused Cable.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 12, 2010 5:08 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I also liked
the ballsy call and execution on the offense’s final, decisive go-ahead drive, where Campbell hit Brandon Meyers on 4th and 1 for a crucial, drive-sustaining first down. Myers drops it = Game over.
JLH is just perplexing. If he raises his left elbow chest level to the punter, Nick Miller is in the end zone.
Jario Velderson continue to improve. Maybe an NFL first: situational left tackles
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
I forgot about that one..very ballsy.
I did expect some form of bootleg or PA..SD was didn’t line up in a position to stop the play all. As if thet just knew we wouldn’t do anything other than run up the middle.
SD fans are caliing for blood..either Rivera or Norvels..and rightly they should. All they had to do was run up the middle, and allow Keading to kick a 45+ field goal. They saw us bringing death on every down..and still opted to either pass or run outside (which caused the holding on Gates) cuz that play was doomed in the beginning.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 12, 2010 5:24 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Veldeer was the reason Bruce took that shot!
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 12, 2010 10:22 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We all know
Veldheer is a project, but at this point he’s starting to surpass Henderson and get used to the game speed he’s going to see at LT. San Diego came in leading the league in sacks, and we only allowed them 3. We sacked Rivers just as many times…
Veldheer will continue to get better, IMO and will be the full time starter by year’s end…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 12, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Our pass coverage, after 5-weeks, looks as disorganized and muddle-headed as it ever has
Looking at our schedule, it’s the passing teams like SF, Denver, Indianapolis that pose thegreatest threat to us. After reviewing this game, I’m more convinced that we must “unleash the dogs” on teams with major passing attacks – like S.F.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
I dunno! our blitzing is less effective than our pass coverage.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Oct 12, 2010 5:30 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
judging from experience this season against passing teams -preseason, St.Louis (2nd Half), StD (4th Qtr)
I’m forced to disagree. Rivers would have continue to eat us alive if we’d continued as we had the 1st 3 Quarters.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 12, 2010 5:57 AM PDT up reply actions
+10
Your idea of the continued use of the “5 man line” and effective use of the blitz is the only way we beat a Rivers, Manning or Orton (see SOB’s other blog comments). Your point of “we will get burned once and a while , but we were getting burned anyway” is well taken. Let’s draw a little blood ourselves, it might just be contageous to the rest of the squad! R.F.F.R.
Right. And after get hammered a few times a QBs accuracy drops just as Rivers' did in the 4th, he was throwing wild in fact
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 12, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
It's been a rousing success
in Pittsburgh for how long?…If we don’t blitz the shit out of Orton when Denver comes in, those four wide receivers of theirs will have a HUGE day.
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by TheRaiderWay on Oct 12, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I have to doubt that
He’s been running for his life the past two weeks and still went over three bills. The stats agains the Baltimore are misleading, and I like what they did against the Donkeys. Half Orton’s passing yards came on two long TDs to Lloyd, one well after the game was decided. They went with nickle as their base defense because we all know the Donkeys can’t run the ball. I like this for two reasons, one it gets more speed on the field, and two we can send pressure from different angels…plus, I think our secondary is more talented than Baltimore’s minus Ed Reed…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 12, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
problem with that is a guy named Gore
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 12, 2010 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Was referring to the Chargers
But yeah, we’re gonna miss Henderson on Sunda for the run defense. Still more concerned about VD though.
RELEASE JLH, Bring in Nick Miller as WR/PR
JLH has been running half ass routes and looks completely lost on the football field. He hasnt been the same since the few hits he took last year cause of JR.
Nick Miller has proven time and time again that he can be a very effective WR/PR. They can use him just like Patriots use Wes Welker. Same frame and quickness. Doesnt the coaching staff see this?
They're starting to
I think JLH is the odd man out when (if) Schillens can go. Still, it’s Hue’s ideal matchup to put LouMur in the slot, though I think Ford and Nick create better matchups there. I say we bring either Ford or Miller early in this game and, split him out wide with DHB and LouMur as the inside receivers and hit an early bubble screen…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 12, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
JLH lost status Sunday. Unless he does something soon at WR... his days are numbered
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 12, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17sX3z0SMYg
I’m sure some if not all of you have already seen this but it brings such joy.
I would've been grinding Tyvon's ass if the Chargers somehow tied it up with less than a minute left.
But fuk it, the TD was good, although it would’ve been more safe just to take a knee or just wait at the SD 1 yard line and let JC or Bush get a TD.
The RaiderLaker
I understand, but what would imply our Defense can't hold SD for 0:58. Plus, the spectacular affect would be ruined
if Tyvon had stepped out bounds (or Lamarr had tackled him).
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 12, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck that
Score the 7 they needed a TD plus the deuce to tie it with 58 secs left. The wind had been sucked from their sails from the previous possession and fumble, stuffing, sacking bitch beat down. I’ll take the return all day long. It was worth it to see the Rivers of tears coming out and the 2 year old temper tantrum look on his face.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Oct 12, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
great game again
He should have taken a knee though at least that’s the smart play, but it didn’t matter so oh well.
Perseverence!!
This was the first game I really saw all facets of the team clicking together. Although faced with a late deficit, they came together and persevered. From CJ nailing Sproles to free up the ball for Branch, to the ‘Loper Roller’, to Campbell coming in and taking us the distance with two long drives for the comeback. That was a team effort, all around. Hats off to the coaches and their halftime adjustments.
No, i don’t think Branch should have taken a knee. He deserved the score, after the adversity he’s faced so far this season. Besides, we kick the wind out of them with that fumble, I was confident we would hold em after that, we demorolized them, Finally!!!
Let’s do it again this week to the Whiners in a home game away from home. I’m gonna try to make it to the game, even if it’s just for tailgating, lol. i got some friends that live up there. Anybody else going?
Go Raidaz!!!
by RaiderDevastate1 on Oct 12, 2010 1:39 PM PDT reply actions
Should Branch have stoped at the one?
No,unless after scoring the TD the Chargers would have been down less than 8 points.if The TD had only given the Raiders a 6 point lead then yea.
I just cant believe Norv and the Chokers OC where passing when they got into FG range with less than 2 min on the clock.i know our D had been stopping the run all day,but still.i guess they figured we couldn’t defend the pass and didn’t count on the Raiders dialing up the Blitz.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I think
they wanted to shove it down our throats and stuff us with a TD. Arrogance my friend, arrogance. Fuck em look how it came back to bite their arses.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Oct 12, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
No doubt they suffer from arrogance
they also tried to run it, but they tried to run it outside and got a holding and then were pushed back to long FG range and started throwing again. You have to question that play calling too.
They ran outside, when they were in easy FG range and they ran outside with their inside runner. I think the reason Norv hasn’t fired the ST coach is because it keeps some of the heat off of his ass.
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by Rich Langford on Oct 12, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
They ran on first down to the outside and were called for a hold
So maybe they thought they needed to get closer. Still pretty stupid play calling by Norvell as we had to get them backed up and get a sack.
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Bush over McFadden
I know McFadden has been playing really well, but just look at how Bush runs. I bet if you asked any defense who they least look forward to seeing behind the QB is Bush. McFadden is fast, but Bush will just run over people, he runs angry.
Also Bush does not have the “Break away” speed to make him really dangerous. McFadden is lowering his shoulder and is getting good yards after contact, but also can turn the corner and get 5-10 more yards. When Bush turns the corner they catch him and only gets about 1-3 more yards. But they make a hell of a 1 2 punch
Actually
Bush has broken more huge runs that DMC to date, but some of that has to do with McFadden’s injuries and running style up to this year. I want to get them both on the field at the same time…remember, it’s McFadden that made the Wildcat all the rage at Arkansas…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Oct 12, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
He is going to continue to
be McBroken and stay on the shelf for 1/3 of the year.
He is not durable. Can’t handle the point of attack in the trenches.
IF and I say IF (I highly doubt it) we started a high powered offense (we don’t have the personnel) and used him like Marcus use to be or how Bush is on NO then he can be of constant use. As I said though we won’t develop that type of offense. We need a gunslinging QB (Grad is not and JC definitely is not). We also need a competent O line (not even close) some WR with talent (that stay healthy for 75% of the season) and we have MAYBE 1 as of now that performs. We have a TE that thank God can hold onto the ball.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Oct 13, 2010 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Glorious result, not a glorious game
Two different things entirely. I watched it again, and I saw the same shit that made me wonder if we weren’t going to piss away the game in the third quarter: horrible pass defense, constipated offensive playcalling, stupid penalties, sloppy play…
This game looked a lot like the game against the Cardinals, only this time the result was switched from us bitching and moaning about how we ‘coulda/shoulda/woulda’ to the other side doing it, when they clearly had the opportunity to win at the end. The overall play was not much better, although it glowed on special teams in the first quarter, and the play calling improved dramatically late in the game.
That doesn’t mask the pass defense failing miserably (porous is a kind word), the offensive ineptitude based at least in part by the play calling, the still-lacking pass protection, or the numerous penalties (more than the 12 listed; a number of penalties were turned down).
Put it this way: what would you be saying if Turner wasn’t an idiot, and they kicked the game-winning FG with time running out?
I seriously doubt that ANYONE would be talking about what a “glorious game” it was…
Failure builds character; success reveals it
Ha of course we wouldn't
The biggest difference between this game and the Cardinals game is the opponent. Not only the history, but the present. The Cardinals suck. The Chargers game into the game ranked #1 in yards on D and O.
The pass D sucked, but the Chargers are an awesome passing team.
This is two weeks in a row that the Raiders have played a game where they have had huge mental lapses on D against quality opponents. In years past this would have led to a blowout. This year they were in a position to win both. The Coulda woulda shouldas tend to even out.
This team is far from complete, but they are also far from where they have been and that is a glorious thing.
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by Rich Langford on Oct 12, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Think Giants game last year!
Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.
by TheRaiderWay on Oct 13, 2010 5:41 AM PDT up reply actions
The pass defense was pitiful.
Nnamdi needs to start going up against Murphy in practice instead of wasting his time hoping Heyward-Beyotch figures the position out. He is sacrificing his own ability going up against a lesser opponent in practice
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
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