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Post Game Poll: Raiders vs 49ers

SAN FRANCISCO - OCTOBER 17:  Vernon Davis #85 of the San Francisco 49ers scores a touchdown on Tyvon Branch #33 and Hiram Eugene #31 of the Oakland Raider. (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)

Another chance to build from the momentum of a previous weeks victory and go back-to-back, results with the all-to familiar letdown loss of an entirely winnable game.

The majority of you with 60% of the vote polled here last week after the Chargers game believed that the Raiders had turned the corner and would play as if they did going forward. Now following the 49ers game, familiar ares of concern have risen their ugly head once again.

QB: Wow, this situation is just vexatious. The offensive line, while far from perfect, certainly did a sufficient enough job in protection to allow Campbell to get the ball off and make good decisions. Campbell was beyond terrible, (8-21 38.1% 83 yards 0TD 2 Int), but what was so troubling yesterday with Campbell was this supposedly smart-thinking field general, was so damn incompetent in his decision making. What it appears that we have in Campbell now, is a QB that was sacked into submission with the Redskins, then upon arriving to the Raiders gets whacked in August by Travis LaBoy, then gets pummeled in Tennessee. If there is a quarterback inside of Jason Campbell, it buried deep inside of him beneath the debris of shell-shock. Poor mechanics, slow-footed, inaccurate, no touch and horrible decision making=Jason Campbell.

You all witnessed how the Raiders had Alex Smith on the ropes until Singletary "coached" him up to perform. I saw Hue Jackson try in vain to coach Campbell into competence, only to be met with a blank stare from a man that has lost all confidence in his abilities to quarterback this team. I'm not thrilled about Boller, but if Grad is not ready to go, it has to be him instead of clipboard Campbell.

WR: Certainly some of the problems with the QB can be attributed to the inconsistent and ineffective play at wide receiver. Without a veteran WR and without Chaz, the Raiders are left with a trio of inexperienced WR's trying to learn the ropes of the game at this level. Without a trade for a veteran WR, it seems that we will just have to endure the season long growing pains of this unit until they mature.

Safety coverage: The same talent that was able to provide acceptable coverage last year is here now and seems to be completely disconnected from the rest of what the defense is doing. Poor angles, missed assignments, blown coverage and consistent confusion are what make up our group of safeties this season so far. The rest of the defense seems to have turned the corner and is becoming legit, but the play at safety is the defense's Achilles heel and the Raiders' offense will have to score an awful lot of points to compensate for M.I.A. safeties.

Coaching/play calling: "Coach" Cable stated before the game that he was confident with his game plan. WHAT was the game plan?! Did Cable do anything on the sideline yesterday to "coach" the team, other than try to be animated like John Madden and give the appearance he is doing something? Marshall clearly coaches the defense and Hue clearly the offense, Cable does nothing. As for Hue, probably because he has himself lost all confidence in Campbell, called some of the most unimaginative plays possible yesterday at some of the most important times of the game.  Hey, how about a screen pass or two? For a team that adjusted so well the previous week against the Chargers, did nothing whatsoever to adjust yesterday and were completely out-coached.

What are you post game thoughts Nation? What are your concerns now following the game and how do they get fixed?

Poll
Following the results of the 49ers game, which are you MOST concerned about now?
The quarterback position
519 votes
The wide receivers
50 votes
The play at safety
83 votes
Coaching-play calling
138 votes
Other (all equally)
331 votes

1121 votes | Poll has closed

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I need to take my vote back and go other,

because I am most concerned about my mental health.

Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.

by Rich Langford on Oct 18, 2010 2:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Lol

I feel you.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Oct 18, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1

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by JonDoe on Oct 18, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about

the possibility they just don’t want to win bad enough>

by rightnasty on Oct 18, 2010 8:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Think about this

What if the raiders traded for vick ? A long shot but he would change the face of our offense … He’s a double threat … Think of him and mcfadden back there … Dangerous combo … Just food for thought

by Tkeys916 (TK) on Oct 18, 2010 8:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Vick, Dunn and Duckett led the league in rushing

We’d have Vick, DMC and Bush

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Oct 18, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Question

Would you guys rather have Branch slide to FS while Mitch starts at SS or Brown in at FS?

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Oct 18, 2010 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

At this point

I wouldn’t mind seeing Branch and Huff benched, just so they sit awhile and get their heads straight. Though it should be pointed out that on that one TD, Hiram Eugene was standing back near the goal line and didn’t do anything.

by rightnasty on Oct 18, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

wrong, wrong, wrong. Branch has an upside, for now, he's safe, Huff needs to move over to

being a CB or cut. He’s a terrible tackler, terrible safety in rushing situations, so, if you want to keep him around, let him move to CB where they could salvage a players skill set.
Hiram Eugene is gone after this year, so there’s no real concern about his playing time.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum

by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 18, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

do not agree

I like Huff and Branch. I dont think they should be benched for any reason. I understand everyone is upset, but serioulsy… we need Bruce to come back already. He has this great vibe that EVERYONE feeds off of. Lets all be positive and not try to talk shit about any players… especially HUFF AND BRANCH… they are my favs ;)

by raider girl on Oct 18, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

PHUCK

I am so tired of getting my hopes up for this PHUCKING TEAM! Could we please just play consistently for once(or twice). Lose to a 0-5 team! if we could have won that G-dam game we would be in 1st. Fire the whole lot of ’em! Coach, owner ,players!
RAIDERS….GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!

by LOWERAIDER on Oct 18, 2010 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd like to thank the Raiders for reminding me why investing Sunday afternoons watching them is a waste of time.

Eight years of the same shitty loss and failure. Get rid of one qb, you get another just as bad. Get rid of one coach (or playcaller), just get another one doing the same thing. Beat a rival one week, and the next week get beat by one almost as bad as you the next. As the saying goes…“The more things change…”

You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

by S Jay Bruin on Oct 18, 2010 10:21 AM PDT reply actions  

The only thing that hasn't changed over the past 8 years

besides the constant losing, is the guy picking the coaches, players, and schemes.

I can ask for a new coach, but the same guy will be picking a coach with the same limited criteria.

I can ask for a new player, but the same guy will be scouting and picking the new player using the same outdated measureables.

I can ask for a new scheme…oh well.

You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

by S Jay Bruin on Oct 18, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's the coaching

As I write this 44% of the poll responders have stated that the QB situation is most concerning to them. I must disagree, mostly because we have other immediate options at QB that can obviously play better than Jason Campbell. I feel that the coaching is most concerning at this point, because their decisions reflect the poor performance on the field.

Coach Cable said in his postgame interview that he didn’t consider removing Campbell from the game. Why the change of heart since the Rams game? Campbell had absolutely no confidence in his decision-making, and now we’re hearing that he actually injured his knee and needs an MRI. As the only semi-funny Dane Cook would say “Um….hello?” Where was Kyle Boller? You know, the guy you keep touting as one who’s always prepared and is of starter-quality?

Oh, and don’t think you got away clean either Coach Jackson. The initial gameplan may have been sound in theory, but when it wasn’t working you didn’t do enough to adapt. You take less blame because I can recall several plays, such as the bootlegs and bubble-screens where Campbell’s execution ruined those plays, but it’s still up to you to put our players in a position to make plays and it didn’t happen.

I anticipate Gradkowski being healthy enough to play next week @ Denver and believe that Boller will back him up, with Campbell shown the bench to try and get his head straight. Even if Gradkowski is still hurt, I’d give the ball to Boller over Campbell at this point. But that’s the decision that Cable and Jackson need to make – and likely cost us a game because they didn’t on Sunday.

by LiveAdam on Oct 18, 2010 10:21 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

What this guy said.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Oct 18, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I anticipate Gradkowski being healthy enough to play next week

I dont

It sounded pretty bad, I say 2-3 weeks still

" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Oct 18, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's said blowout losses, blame players, close losses, blame coaching, I've seen Keystone cop

short films that had less chaotic fodder in them than what the offense did on Sunday. I said it last night and I’ll say it again: the offense makes you want to throw up, lick the barth back up and swallow it again. Absoutely disgusting.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum

by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 18, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1 with this addition

The Marshall plan for this game was flawed too and did not do near enough to pressure Alex Smith( a guy just waiting to fail) We went with the same OLD vanilla 4 man (and sometimes 3 man) rush that’s cost us before. When we did blitz,(very rarely) the corners were not up on the line to bump the receivers at the line to mess up the timing on the only play possible. Also we have no business playing zone, especially in the red zone. We have a bunch of man on man guys, putting them in a zone has had predictable results. The defense could have dominated this game but they were not allowed. Whether it’s Al or Marshall (I have a feeling it’s Al) something has got to change.

by rambis64 on Oct 18, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really, Let me guess, the last 7 years was because of coaching?

I loved the fact Cable left JC in the game, even if it meant losing. Plus he probably wanted to see how he would react and if he can really be trusted. It was also a way to shut the QB contreversy guys. One QB may do things better than the other because he fits this team, and that’s it. Next up, Broncos. Not jumbing on a QB bandwagon but, JC failed yesterday against the damn Niners.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Oct 18, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

These coaches, they change what's working (blitzing / 5 man DL ... we were playing well Defensively

through 2 quarters and ahead) and then they keep doing what doesn’t work (not taking the fragile wussy Campbell out, straight dives, lack of screens) it’s the most depressing aspect of this season – the coaches won’t bench themselves; we won’t get any help from their being seriously injured.

S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.

by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 19, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

See

This game isn’t the bad news. The bad news is that this game is what would have passed for an “easy game”. It gets tougher from here. Ram, Cardinals, 49ers, some of the weakest teams we have to play this year. Only other “weak” teams we have left are the ones in our division.

by rightnasty on Oct 18, 2010 10:52 AM PDT reply actions  

Re-Evaluate That Equation...

Rams 3-n-3 Beat “SD”…
“AZ” 3-2 Beat “NO”…

by PantyRaider on Oct 18, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

"NO BRAINS" Campbell is a Fucking big joke as a QB in the NFL........

He doesn’t care….about the team or “maybe a win”…he is like his “buddy” J.Russell (another NO BRAINS)…..Thank you soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much Mr.Alzheimers (Al) Davis

by Raiderfanaddict on Oct 18, 2010 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Amen , rightnasty. It only gets tougher.

This was a must win if we were to contend at all. Those who point to the other teams in our divisions records and say we are still in contention for a division title drank the Kool-Aid. Yes, we are 1-0 in Div. play,but are likely to be 1-1 this time next week. I agree with your take on benching Branch and Huff. We know what we get with those two -severe gas, why not see what the new guys can do while the “pepto twins” get their shit together on the bench,or better yet ,special teams.
The coaching is horrible,on all levels and that comes under one man’s watch, Tom the cable guy. I felt before the game that both coaches were playing for their jobs(Singletary perhaps a little more). Mr. Davis HAS to feel this one in a big time way,and if he does nothing I would be shocked. I’m not saying he will let Cable go but a head ,somewhere has to roll. R.F.F.R.

by Wyoraider on Oct 18, 2010 11:09 AM PDT reply actions  

We Are In A 3-Way Tie For 2nd AFCW

3-n-2 “KC” 1-0 AFCW
2-n-4 Raiders 1-0 AFCW
2-n-4 Broncos 0-0 AFCW
2-n-4 Chargers 0-n-2 AFCW

by PantyRaider on Oct 18, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm glad we are 1-0 in the division.

If we beat Denver, we will, or should, be neck and neck with KC.

That will make me happy.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

OAK @ DEN Is The Must Win Game -n- We Could Tie For 1st -w- AFCW Lead....

JAC @ KC….3-n-2 @ 3-n-2…See how they play tonight against Tenn….Than they have the short week n go to KC…
NE @ SD……4-n-1 @ 2-n-4…I fully expect NE to win this one…

by PantyRaider on Oct 18, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh they will. I will enjoy that game immensely.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL not be too technical but...

the didn’t cheat. the media SAID they cheated but they didn’t. No advantage was gained.

:)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was WHERE they taped on the field.

They weren’t taping anything different than what other teams were taping, but WHERE they taped made them get penalized.

Here is an article: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/199345-the-truth-about-spygate-punishing-success-and-promoting-parity

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's Like Posting Edi Debartolo/Carmon Policy Never Gained Advantage/Cheated...

Both teams only got slaps on the wrist with a “Now-Now we can’t have that” but had it been the Raiders all hell would have broke lose and another forage of the “Raider Rules”….

by PantyRaider on Oct 18, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

it got blown out of proportion with the pats too.

It went on basically 90% OF THE SEASON! It was so exhausting and stupid…

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well...I Will Admit I Didn't Follow It BUT...

Did they know our calls in that “SnowJob” “PO” game where we clearly won and the call on the field was fumble n our ball after Woodson knocked the ball out of Brady’s hand until that stupid “TuckRule” took it away when there was ample conclusive evidence that it was Woodsons hit that caused that fumble….Huh! Huh!….How would you answer that one…The partiality was definitely there….

by PantyRaider on Oct 18, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

... what does that have to do with what I said? :/

Well… we all knew it was a fumble, but also Brady was face-masked that play I think….

But it was a fumble.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

KOOL...No Harm Intended But Old Painful Memories Never Die

I don’t recall anything about any Facemask….When the ball was knocked out our players went for the ball not for Brady…It’s still available on U-Tube…I saw it again before this season started while surfing around for something interesting about my old Raiders…It was there and just as painful as the 1st time…Almost…

by PantyRaider on Oct 18, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah. I already watched two vids on it.

I can’t point out the facemask, so i don’t know if it did happen or not. maybe not.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a photo once

and it looked like Woodsons hand hit Brady in the facemask before the ball was fumbled.

The disclaimer being: it was one photo out of a play sequence and so was out of context. I can’t remember if there was contact or not.

by KiwiRaiderFan on Oct 18, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still numb over it all.

QB: Soupman is a joke. A FEW FUCKING COMPLETIONS WOULD HAVE WON US THIS GAME!!
WR: Thanks for confirming why Crabtree is so much better than any of the guys we have. Have a direct pass bounce off your chest into Takeo Spikes hands, ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!
SAFETY: On long situations toward the end of the game, we kept on getting burned. Why are the Safeties playing on the line? One break from Gore is all they needed to almost take it to the house!! ISN’T THE DEFINITION OF SAFETY TO ACT AS THE LAST RESORT FOR THE DEFENSE TO SAVE POINTS?!!
COACH/PLAY CALLING: Is Cable even doing anything? And where is your creativity, Hue? Are you so clueless to keep the one trick pony of Soupman and Company on one or two PREDICTABLE plays?

When the announcers are circling blunders on offense and defense, you know it’s time to cut bait!

What is it going to take to change this almost DECADE LONG bullshit? Do I gotta wear one of these at the game?

WE OUT SUCKED THE NINERS IN THE SUCKBOWL!! I HOPE THE TEAM, THE COACHES AND AL DAVIS IS WEARING THIS ONE TODAY!!

The RAIDER NATION is the ONLY NATION!!

by oaklandSMASH on Oct 18, 2010 11:30 AM PDT reply actions  

The freaking Niner linebackers have better hands than our receivers
Have a direct pass bounce off your chest into Takeo Spikes hands, ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!

You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

by S Jay Bruin on Oct 18, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Campbell must not play no matter what.

The 9ers game plan was the same as the raiders force the QB’s to win the game and we saw the result. 9ers force Campbell to win this game and they knew he would fail due to inconsistancy in our WR’s, and Campbell being clueless. Stop the raider run game and force them to win by air= disasters when Campbell is in. When Campbell is in, teams will only have to game plan in stopping the run and not worry about the pasing game. What the worst thing than Campbell can do even with Mcfadden is back checkdown to him all day long. I know HJ is committed to the run but common man switch it up.

Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.

by 818Raiderguy on Oct 18, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm kind of the opposite of LiveAdam. I think a QB is all this offense really needs.

If you think about what makes a GOOD QB; Leadership, Accuracy, Pocket Presence, READING THE DEFENSE and making necessary changes. Cable, and Hue, can’t necessarily coach Campbell, or even Grad, these things. These are things they must improve from themselves.

Our OL is okay. It can give our QBs time. We need a QB the most.

We need a QB who knows how to audible, who has good pocket presence, and makes solid decisions. Campbell has good pocket presence, but lacks:

1) Audibling
2) decision making
3) accuracy

Grad, if he stays healthy, can do these things, but his decision making throwing the ball, and reading the defense, are questionable. With a team like ours, Grad is the best we have, but might that MIGHT not be enough(reckless play, and getting injured due to it, won’t help this team in the log run).

We need a QB who has good pocket presence, accuracy, decision making, and knows how to audible. We need a guy who these guys can rally around, and depend upon. How do we get this QB? I don’t know. I just know we need one.

At this moment, Grad is the best we have, and he can’t stay on the field. And judging from how we play with the best QB we have(Grad) and stay in the game, vs. who appears to be the backup(Campbell), it’s clear our team, offensively is worse, or doesn’t perform as well, when our best QB is not in the game.

This leads me to believe that, QB is the problem. And like I said:

Grad, if he stays healthy, can do these things, but his decision making throwing the ball, and reading the defense, are questionable. With a team like ours, Grad is the best we have, but might that MIGHT not be enough(reckless play, and getting injured due to it, won’t help this team in the log run).

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Except for one thing

“Grad, if he stays healthy”. And why he is not staying healthy? Could it be that he gets no protection from our O-line? And now if Campbell is also injured, the question becomes: is any QB safe behind this terrible offensive line? Can anybody stay healthy when they’re steadily getting pounded on? If the O-Line doesn’t get fixed, we’re not going to have much of a passing attack or running attack, no matter who’s under center.

by rightnasty on Oct 18, 2010 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The OL gives good protection. You've seen good protection for campbell yesterday, and he didnt capitalize on it.

they play bad 65-70% of the time, but I’ve seen good prtection, and enough good protection to suggest that a QB whp has great pocket presence should be able to perform well behind it.

The rams OL is below average, yet Bradford is doing very well behind it.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our O-line is not the best, and having a QB that knows thats, an dknows how to

read defenses and make adjustments makes an O-lina decent. That fact that JaSucko the 2nd cant read defenses makes our O-line look like garbage and cant blocked which is true at most time. Example 08’ steelers offense shitty QB that can adjust and have accuracy = winning team.

Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.

by 818Raiderguy on Oct 18, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Long term I agree

In the long-term I absolutely agree that we are screwed when it comes to the QB position. Grads (when healthy) will do for now but he’s obviously not a long-term option for our team.

In the short-term, however, with the parity-through-inconsistency that the NFL has become, a guy like Grads can do enough to help this team win. The rest of the team obviously responds to his energy, and while his gunslinger playing style is certainly reckless, its probably preferable at this point to hesitating and getting sacked.

My point was that the QB position, while certainly a concern, is less so than the coaching concern because there are other options for QB in Grads and Boller, while we’re stuck with Cable and Jackson right now. You could give Cable and Jackson Peyton Manning and they wouldn’t be able to win 8 games.

by LiveAdam on Oct 18, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're right Grad is not the long term answer.

What we need a QB that can read defenses and make adjustments. Timing and accuracy is everything. Coaches call plays before defenses line up. Its up to the QB to read the defensive formation and make adjustments. It what seperates gret QB’s from bad one (Russel, Campbell).

Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.

by 818Raiderguy on Oct 18, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Grad CAN do those, but not very well, as he makes throws in coverage still, and scrambles around(he needs to read the blitzes).

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do think coaching is important.

I just think, right now, our coaches are “okay.” better than what we had ever since gruden left.

We just need a QB who this team can depend on for the season. A franchise QB. We tried getting a franchise QB in campbell, but that’s not working. He makes slightly more mistakes than grad. We need someone our offense can depend on.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh and since I'll maybe have your attention

What did you think of the Pats getting Branch back? Should the Raiders have made a play for him?

by rightnasty on Oct 18, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that Dieon is back. But you have to understand.

The chemistry Brady has with Branch is…. sort of indescribable. These two are like brothers. Brady knows dieon, and dieon knows brady. They are more in sync with each other than moss was really. Brady can tell dieoon where to go, just by looking at him.

If he came to oakland, you would not have that. You WOULD get a crisp route runner, with very good hands. That would certainly help oakland. AND he can teach murphy. Maybe Oakland could have made a play for him, but he wouldn’t be able to put up numbers any different than seattle really.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lets all hope Campbell is really hurt and can't play anymore

Campbell being hurt will force Cable to pick up a QB (Colt Brennan), since Bruce is injury prone. Boller is not great but could make more completions than Campbell which is all we needed to win these game. I say for the rest of the season Cable should do the same thing with the QB as he is doing with Jario Velderson. If one cant do anything in the first half make the switch in the 2nd half .So far is has worked for us against the Rams, and StD.

Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.

by 818Raiderguy on Oct 18, 2010 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I'd like to see Colt.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1. Bring colt brennan back.

by Horatio R. on Oct 18, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Broncos just took the best team in the NFL to the edge

We got less than 200 yards offense and lost to Alex Smith. Next week could be very, very ugly.

I gua-ran-tee that JaSon Campbell is thanking his lucky stars this isn’t a home game, and probably also praying that his knee is really hurt so he won’t have to play.

As I wrote this we just handed off up the middle again and then Jason checked it down and threw a 95 mph fastball at a running back’s feet….

by lchristmas on Oct 18, 2010 12:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Like I said earlier if Jasucko the 2nd

Is starting teams will plan for our running game only. Our running game is our only conistancy that we have on offense. Teams our learning that stopping our running game is the succes in beating us when JaSucko the 2nd is in.

Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.

by 818Raiderguy on Oct 18, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really think this combo needs to be Dike McBush

Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.

by Rich Langford on Oct 18, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our Wr's are inconsistant because our QB is incosistant.

Our WR’s are not the best but can a make a difference and change the outcome of a game if given the chance. The only way for to have our WR’s become more consistant is that teh QB has to get them more involve ealry in the game. The more you throw at a wr ACCURATELY and give them a chance to catch it boosts up their confidence. You cant expect a WR to catch a pass on a crucial passing down play when he hasnt been thrown to at all day. He probably wasnt expecting to come his way in the first play. Jasucko the 2nd inconsistancy makes our wr’s inconsistant.

Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.

by 818Raiderguy on Oct 18, 2010 1:29 PM PDT reply actions  

The "QB" Is The Element That Changes....Weeks #1/5/6 The "WR"s Sucked...Why...

Week # 1…
L. Murphy 4/28 yds
Y. Figurs 2 /17 yds
D. Heyward-Bey 1/11 yds
J. Higgins 1/2 yds

Week #5…
L. Murphy 2 /61 yds

Week #6….
D. Heyward-Bey 3/19 yds
L. Murphy 1/4 yds

All games that “JustCrap” played…Those are all the “WR” recs listed for those games…Pathetic to say the least…

Week #2 Murphy-n-“DHB” each had 6 recs for 170yds…
Week #3 Murphy 5 n “DHB” 3 for 170yds…
Week #4 “JLH”/“DHB”/Murphy accounted for only 4 recs n 45 yds but Zack had his big day with 11/122 yds n “D-Mac” 6/82 yds….

by PantyRaider on Oct 18, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The WR's are inconsistent because they simply aren't that good

They have yet to ‘develop’, and that is not on the QB, but themselves. What is even worse is that we consider a day that they don’t stink to be ‘looking good’; well, yes, just like Gradkowski looked great in comparison to a certain someone, but even now isn’t going to have teams knocking on his door if he were a free agent, wanting to give him the keys to a team. He is simply not as bad as some that we have had play…

That a halfway decent game is seen as looking good, on a team with as much of a rich WR history as this one, says a lot about the state of the position, and how starved we are for good play.

Failure builds character; success reveals it

by signcut on Oct 18, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yep

Bey pulls one of the most impressive vanishing acts ever seen on an almost weekly basis. Should have been a magician in Vegas.

by rightnasty on Oct 18, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's hard to judge the WRs

When even Zach Miller, who is AWESOME, hardly gets the ball in his hands during the whole game. Our receivers are not getting a chance to develop because Campbell doesn’t throw to them enough, and when he does, he’s not on target. Ford’s drop was awful, of course, but if the announcers were correct that was his first attempted NFL reception.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Oct 18, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Youre right Signcut about our WR’s arent that good but we all knew that, and thats why we need a veteran QB that has accuracy and read defenses to make adjustments. Great QB’s make no name WR’s great and vice versa great WR’s make no name QB’s great. What made Campbell sorta decent in Washington was the repect that defenses had to give santana moss. When you have WR’s that havent earn that respect that and ineffective QB it spells disaster. We need a veteran WR that can produce, or a QB.

Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.

by 818Raiderguy on Oct 18, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it?

Even with Grad in there, Bey vs. Houston 1 catch, vs. Arizona 3 catches. He had one good game against the Rams and that’s it. Let’s remember this is 1st round pick with a 1st round pick’s salary. He’s getting paid 3x what Murphy makes and doesn’t have as many catches and no TDs.

by rightnasty on Oct 18, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forget about Crabtree too

The Raiders could have had Maclin and been in great shape at the position.

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Oct 18, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

How can ANYONE be shocked???

LOL.. we are still on track for 5-11 that I predicted before the season started. But to be “shocked” at this result is to be completely out of touch with reality. This roster is complete garbage almost from top to bottom. Crapkowski is a shit QB.. always has been..and will not do anything to make this team better… there is a reason he can’t get a spot on any other team! The wife beater is completely clueless..listening to him talk at the press conference you would think they were actually just a play away from being a playoff team! This guy needs to look in the mirror and admit that he does not know shit about coaching! No WR.. no OL.. a secondary that should do everyone a favor and just quit!

LOL.. we are still on track for 5-11 that I predicted before the season started. But to be “shocked” at this result is to be completely out of touch with reality. This roster is complete garbage almost from top to bottom. Crapkowski is a shit QB.. always has been..and will not do anything to make this team better… there is a reason he can’t get a spot on any other team! The wife beater is completely clueless..listening to him talk at the press conference you would think they were actually just a play away from being a playoff team! This guy needs to look in the mirror and admit that he does not know shit about coaching! No WR.. no OL.. a secondary that should do everyone a favor and just quit!Nobody should be shocked.. if anything.. you should be shocked if they can actually win another game the rest of the season. I did predict 5-11.. but I can easily see 2-14..

LOL.. we are still on track for 5-11 that I predicted before the season started. But to be “shocked” at this result is to be completely out of touch with reality. This roster is complete garbage almost from top to bottom. Crapkowski is a shit QB.. always has been..and will not do anything to make this team better… there is a reason he can’t get a spot on any other team! The wife beater is completely clueless..listening to him talk at the press conference you would think they were actually just a play away from being a playoff team! This guy needs to look in the mirror and admit that he does not know shit about coaching! No WR.. no OL.. a secondary that should do everyone a favor and just quit!Nobody should be shocked.. if anything.. you should be shocked if they can actually win another game the rest of the season. I did predict 5-11.. but I can easily see 2-14..Oakland Raiders.. worst team in the HISTORY of the NFL.. good job Al!! now do us all a favor and kick the bucket already!!

by G_M on Oct 18, 2010 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

No?

He’s f’n brilliant, just listen to him! I especially like the “LOL” followed by angry rants and aspersion casting . He’s a 49’ers fan pretending to follow the Raiders just so he can blow a load with his right hand while he types his “hilarious” rants with his left. That repetitive cutting and pasting is really well done too. Might be the stupidest person on this blog.

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Oct 18, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Negative

But saying we’re on track for 5-11 is probably closer to reality than the possibility that we take the division. This the Chiefs’ year. Couldn’t really be any clearer, despite their loss yesterday.

by rightnasty on Oct 18, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chiefs Are Very One-Dimensional...#1 "O" Run Run Run...#27 Pass....#19 Scoring...

Their “D” is difficult to a point…#19 total….#27 Pass….#5 Rush…#3 Scoring….

Problem for us is we don’t pass and they will prolley stop/slow our run n be difficult for us to score on…I’m more worried about the “Squaws” than the “MuleHeads”….

by PantyRaider on Oct 18, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just want to bring this up... tragic.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/Godspeed-Eric-LeGrand-Rutgers-lineman-paralyze;ylt=AgOGhAp8UI8gngtjKq1l2I5nYcB?urn=ncaaf-277526

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

The video gave me chills that I never wish to feel again…

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Oct 18, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our QB situation is rather simple.

We drafted a QB 1st pick in the 1st round and it didn’t work. We need to draft a QB with a good arm and potential. Get a Vet, a QB who needs a new system, and the guy we drafted. Chad Pennington, Leftwich, Volek, Vick, or somebody like that. Then sign Quinn, Troy Smith, Pat White, maybe T.Jackson. Let 2 of those guys be the QB while the guy we drafted developes like Arron Rodgers and Matt Cassel.

by raiderfan21 on Oct 18, 2010 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Our QB situation is rather simple.

We drafted a QB 1st pick in the 1st round and it didn’t work. We need to draft a QB with a good arm and potential. Get a Vet, a QB who needs a new system, and the guy we drafted. Chad Pennington, Leftwich, Volek, Vick, or somebody like that. Then sign Quinn, Troy Smith, Pat White, maybe T.Jackson. Let 2 of those guys be the QB while the guy we drafted developes like Arron Rodgers and Matt Cassel.

by raiderfan21 on Oct 18, 2010 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

We're made as hell

And we aren’t going to take it anymore! Oh, wait, yes we will, lol. We’re Raider fans, we’ve seen performances this bad many times, sadly.

I hope Boller starts at Denver (I still can’t believe I’m saying that!) unless Bruce is 100% healthy. As for Campbell, unless he really changes his mindset (like he SAID he did after he was benched), I really don’t want to see him out on the field again. Sometimes it takes a QB time, even if he’s a vet, when he switches teams—but man, he has not played well. Not everyone can handle being a Raider. Bruce can—he loves just getting a chance to play. I think Campbell could do OK as a dropback passer on a team with a good O-line, but that ain’t the Raiders. Our QB needs to think on his feet—heck, I wouldn’t mind having a QB audible plays on the line of scrimmage because they couldn’t be any worse than the ones coming in from the sidelines and at least we might surprise the defense once in a while that way.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Oct 18, 2010 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think Cambell knows the playbook.

Rodney Sacramento mentioned it a while back (he also wanted us to get Cambell last year so I hold that against him – Just kidding Rodney!) and it has to be true. Why can they open the playbook for Grads but not Cambell? Like we run some super complicated offense? C’mon! I understand not putting Boller in against the 49ers as Boller said today he’s only had a handful of snaps with the 1st team this year and really, Campbell should have been making plays as he is the next Jim Plunkett (gotta prove to the boss, AD, that Cambell can’t get it done).

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Oct 18, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

How the heck did I spell Campbell wrong so may times?

Better study MY playbook!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Oct 18, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

Vick is easier to spell.

by rightnasty on Oct 18, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're still spelling it wrong it is Crapbell

Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.

by Rich Langford on Oct 19, 2010 2:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like we may see Boller on Sunday

He played really well in the preseason, even though it was just preseason. He hasn’t really figured it out, but hopefully he can click with us. He’s got a great arm and has shown the ability to make big plays. Let’s hope we can turn it around this week.

by duballers23 on Oct 18, 2010 4:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Buffalo Bills with the first pick in the 2011 draft, trades their pick to the Oakland Raiders:

W/the first pick in the 2011 NFL Draft the Oakland Raiders select John Locker Quarterback Washington.

Buffalo will finish with the worst record in the league, they do not have the resources nor the desire to pay Locker $100 million, $50 guaranteed. They simply do not have the ability to draft John Locker and pay him market value.

Al Davis, would gladly pay him the money, given his skill set. Excluding, Nnamdi, Bush/Run DMC and our Special Teams, Buffalo can have anybody they want.

Mark my words, Buffalo will trade their first pick, and don’t be surprised if Al sniffs it out, considering he and Ralph Wilson go back a ways.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum

by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 18, 2010 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Jake Locker.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Oct 18, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's the dude, Bills will not draft this kid, we need to do everything we can to get him.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum

by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 18, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I’m not really willing to trade anyone for a 1st. I’d rather look at Ricky Stanzi from Missouri in the 3rd.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Oct 18, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Davis put it out there, he's willing to trade everyone, including the jock straps for some

stability. Who Knows?

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum

by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 18, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

no, bro, John Locker, book it.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum

by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 18, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't that the guy who they wouldn't even let near the field during the preseason

even when Gradkowski was injured?

You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

by S Jay Bruin on Oct 18, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's the guy.

I always wanted to see what he had but apparently, no NFL team does at this point.

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Oct 18, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly my point

it’s more likely we’ll get a chance to see him play with the Sabercats when they start back up next year. The coaching staff didn’t think enough of him or his potential to give him fake playing time or hook him up on the practice squad.

You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

by S Jay Bruin on Oct 18, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

he looks good though

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d809b832b/HOF-Brennan-highlights

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boller is said to be the starter next week.

just watched it on nfl total access.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

but I would still rather have Colt.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm telling you guys, Bills don't have the money to pay Locker, we should be on the phone tellin'

them they can have their pick. This guy is dynamite.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum

by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 18, 2010 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s not coming out is he? Jake Locker is a beast, dude. He runs the Pro Style O and he can run.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Oct 18, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

like a motherfucker man, I would love this guy.

I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum

by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 18, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

From a guy that follows the Huskies and has seen most of Locker's starts

Locker has a lot of similarities with Elway, but I worry about his accuracy. It has improved, but it may always hold him back. Everything else is flawless though. His release, arm strength, size, speed, strength and he is an amazing and natural leader and he has an amazing work ethic.

Still, he can miss some open throws. Especially on the deep passes.

Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.

by Rich Langford on Oct 19, 2010 2:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Deep passes, shmeep passes. This team can win with short passes and an effective running game. Fix the O-line, and get a QB who can lead these men and we’re in shape.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

by JaKe. on Oct 19, 2010 6:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jake Locker was 4-21 against Nebraska with two picks.

I don’t want him. We have problems eveywhere. We don’t need to invest millions in another question mark at QB. Andrew Luck also will have no chance of being in Oakland if he comes out next year. I doubt he will if Buffalo stands to get the top pick anyway.

"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin

by TAW on Oct 19, 2010 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I want a QB next year

that can throw on the run, accurately(as well as throw accurately period), adjust playcalling at the line, makes quick decisions, and is a natural leader.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 19, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brennan's story is a mystery

Doesn’t seem like the Redskins ever gave him a serious look.

by rightnasty on Oct 18, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Campbell will never be successful in our offense scheme that we run

Campbell is a pro style offense QB, and needs time to throw the ball, although there has been times that hes had it, his lack in confidence in himself to put the ball where it needs to be its was causing his failure. Unless he sees a wide open WR he wont throw it. Grad had been succesful because he fits our style offense west coast quick releases, and his confidence to throw the ball in expecting a WR to be where ther suppose to helps their confidence knowing Bruce will throw at them. The thing that has been helping our offensive line is our successful running game run to the edges that Mcfadden brings, bush is not a threat to out run LB to the sidelines so all they have to do is stuff the middle this is why mcfadden is needed because he has the speed to out run LB’s to the edges. Kkeeping defenses honest from bltizing up the middle and stuffing Bush up middle like the 49ers did will help the passing game. 9ers knew that all they had to do was just stay home when bush was in and stopping the run would be easy. Zach miller is a great tight and a threat over middle but when you have LBs sitting in the middle makes it hard to get the ball to him.

Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.

by 818Raiderguy on Oct 18, 2010 6:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Button failure

backups have to be able to come in and adapt to a bad situation. Jason is not a pro style anything. Unfortunately. That show yesterday has lost me forever.the guy has no instincts g for the game. At all. A good arm and no idea how to use it.

by lchristmas on Oct 18, 2010 10:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Campbell has what it takes t be successfull he just owsnt have the heart, attitude, and confidence in himself to make it happen.

Grad doesnt have what it takes to be successful. arm strengh, injury prone but he has heart, attidtude to win , confidence in himself to make something out of nothing. This is why he offfense plays for him and we see that fire out there when hes out there. This is what the team needs a leader that takes command and makes beleivers out of non beleivers. When you have a clueless QB with no heart makes the rest of the offense clueless as to whats going on.

Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.

by 818Raiderguy on Oct 18, 2010 7:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Campbell has started, and has won, so the whole 'he can't play' is stupid

He has better numbers, across the board, than any QB on the roster has, or will likely end up with. That said, he is not playing well right now, and that is undeniable.

For the record, what do I think the problem is? He has not, to my knowledge, ever been in a situation that he has not had the confidence of the coaches, and had to worry about getting yanked for making mistakes. He is clearly more tentative than he was in Washington, and from what I saw of him in college. You can argue about whether this makes him weak-minded or whatever, but the point remains the same: it appears he is in a new situation, what can or should be done?

If I am correct, then what to do about it becomes the next question: do you tell him that he will not get benched to give him peace of mind, and gamble on the results (not like we haven’t with the entire team, but hey), or do you simply tell him that it is a game of performance and that he will have to step up his game and earn the trust of the coaches?

Personally, I think that I would lean towards something of a combo: “You’re starting for the next two games. I don’t care as much about INT’s as I do about moving the ball, scoring points, and winning. If you can do that, I can live with turnovers. Take the position, or take a seat.”

How he responds will dictate what his future here is.

Failure builds character; success reveals it

by signcut on Oct 19, 2010 7:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Under Joe Gibbs, he was injured and lost his starting job to Todd Collins.

Collins even started a playoff game against the Seahawks while he was in Washington. Just the past two years, Campbell was ridden by Jim Zorn constantly and was never allowed to audible out of his plays. It was almost as if Zorn was using him as his scapegoat for his deficiencies as a HC. Campbell also never has had good body language or good pocket awareness. He himself never gave reason for anyone in Washington to have faith in him as the answer at QB hence why Shannahan pretty much let him look for a trade to anybody willing. I am still on the Gradkowski bandwagon if healthy. He has the intangibles that a QB needs. I don’t give a shit about arm strength or completion percentages.

"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin

by TAW on Oct 19, 2010 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do you believe the coaches didn't tell him something along these lines?

Also, this soreness in his left knee that he keeps talking about – in 2007, he had a displaced patella in the same knee, which I suspect makes him prone to injury there. Maybe he’s too banged up by now and health has become his utmost priority. His self-diagnoses sound like excuses though under the circumstances. He should know better.

by Spirals galore on Oct 19, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he checked out a long time ago.

The knee is just another excuse to use to not have to give an effort. He probably has the mindset many players in this league that are hanging on by a thread to the rest of their careers when they come here. They probably think this old man is only good at writing checks and nothing else like he believes he still is so I’ll just ride it out until they finally figure out I was never with a damn to begin with.

"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
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by TAW on Oct 19, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is making excuses!

And he is a loser and he knows it and so does everyone else, including the 49ers BEFORE the game. The 49ers knew, correctly so, that if they double-team Zach Miller and take him out of the game, Campbell will be lost. Watching this happen, was like watching the ninny bottle being taken away form a baby when Campbell lost Zach. The 49ers knew that Campbell could not reach his wide receivers accurately or timely when he ALWAYS looks to Zach FIRST, ALL THE TIME.

He is finished and shell-shocked and should never see the field again in a Raider uniform. I’ll take my chances with Boller until Grad is ready.

Your team is your child...You love it no matter what.

by TheRaiderWay on Oct 19, 2010 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly?

With this coaching staff, who the hell knows…?

Failure builds character; success reveals it

by signcut on Oct 19, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

U said a mouthful, all true, SignCut !!!

Far as Campbell goes, Bench Him !!! His head isn’t in it, for WHATEVER THE REASON IS !!!Far as the POLL: OTHER = ALL OF THE ABOVE !!!
COACHING…….Let’s see here. The Question that needs to be asked is, will any of the present staff, still be here, after the firings are the completed ???? That way we’ll know a whole new staff is coming in.
Hue, if this your audition for the head coaching Job, YOU’RE FUCKING IT OFF, BIG TIME !!!!!
I’ve said for 2 years now…….Switch HUFF to Corner, Routt to Free Safety !!!
Don’t know what the fuck is wrong with Branch, goes from being one of our best DB’s, to one of our worst, strictly from a mental aspect, IMO !!!!!
Far as the rest of the season, it’s a crap shoot. Depends if they figure out, their fucking jobs is on the line !!!!
Hopefully Al will hire a GM. or give Amy Trask the power to do whats needed, and high a capable COACHING STAFF.
Until then, we’re at the mercy of a wait & see policy !!!! DAMN it sucks to be us, right now,…….. True RAIDERFANS !!!!!!

by papabegood on Oct 20, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It Sucks!

I thought with this horrible group of AFC West we would have a chance of winning it! Damn, it sucks to see JC as QB. Bruce come back! Maybe we have to roll JC out of the pocket so he can decide to throw or run. Lets work a little to his advantage.

by DonBui on Oct 19, 2010 9:54 PM PDT reply actions  

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