AFC West Winner 6-10?
by B.A.Armstrong on Oct 18, 2010 5:12 PM PDT
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PrintSomebody said earlier this year, on some other blog network's "comments" section, that the team that wins the AFC West this year will be the first 6-10 team to ever make the playoffs. At first, I giggled at the thought, surely the team would have to win more games then that. However over the last two weeks, the AFC West teams are a combined 1-7, with the only victory coming from the Raiders over the Chargers...a game one AFC West team HAD to win.
Next week one of the AFC West teams will HAVE to win also as the Raiders head to Denver to take on the Broncos. This week, the Kansas City Chiefs blew a late lead against the Houston Texans, the San Diego Chargers lost to the St. Louis Rams---they are now 0-4 on the road, the Broncos shot themselves in the foot against the New York Jets, and the Raiders showed us why the Washington Redskins were willing to trade a former first-round pick to the Raiders for a fourth round pick in a draft that is a year-and-a-half away.
Now, sometimes I'm a skeptic, but I'm beginning to wonder if I jumped the gun with the whole laughing at the 6-10 comment. It appears that the Chiefs are the most consistent team in the division, but they are certainly not the most talented. Then you have the Bolts and Broncos who are throwing the ball very well on offense, but have very little to no sort of running game.
And then there's the Raiders, or as I like to call them now---The Gradkowski's. What is the deal with this guy? Why is it that every quarterback except for Bruce gets their faces smashed in behind this offensive line, but when Gradkowski is in there the offense suddenly becomes a top ten threat?
The only problem that lies with Gradkowski is obviously the injury factor. And it's wierd things too like tearing the MCL's in BOTH knees, or tearing a muscle lifting weights, or seperating your shoulder by taking the same kind of hit by the same guy two times in the same game...who does this happen to? Only Bruce Gradkowski. Only the Oakland Raiders only hope of a winning season over the last seven years.
But will anybody in the AFC West have a winning record at the end of this season? Is this really the worst division in the NFL, or will one of the AFC West teams sweep the NFC West and make them officially the worst division in football?
I'm asking you right now Raider Nation---Will the winner of the AFC West really be a 6-10 team this year?
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Perhaps the NFC West
AZ leads that division with a -50 point differential. The NFC West really is terrible.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
They don't look so terrible playin AFC West teams
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by Rich Langford on Oct 18, 2010 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
They don't look good either
They have been outscored by 52 points and until they went 2-0 in week 6 had a .333 win % against the AFC West.
"-i never said half the things i said." --Yogi Berra
Injuries
It isn’t just Gradkowski. The Raiders have been plagued by injuries to their starters for years. They are among the most fragile teams in the league. Look no further than the number of starters that are injured every week, from Chaz Schilens to Robert Gallery to Darren McFadden.
The problem may lie with their strength and conditioning program.
So much for camp patty-cake keeping them fresh and healthy for the regular season
Players up and down the roster and just about every position coming up lame with similar injuries, certainly the program has to come into question.
You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
I don't know what you are seeing
But this team sucks no maker who we have at QB. It starts at the top Al has this team so up side down that no one has a clue what to do. Our coaching staff has to be the sorriest thing in the NFL. Every player we get regress Seymour jumps upsides every quarter I never saw him do with the Pats.I have yet to see one leader on this team. Every year its the same old thing player talking about the change in the looker room and this year every said since Russell is gone things are going to change. From watching the game yesterday we are helpless team. Another thing is I think People give Bruce too much credit for nothing when he started how many games did we win. Sam Bradford has control to his team no one has control of this team. Bradford top 2 WR’s are gone he still is making progress. How man of think he would have the same success in Oakland I for one don’t think we would. Our coaching staff hasn’t develop a player over the past 8 years. If you look all around the league at players that were once on our team they have all gotten better. Our RT that jumped off sides every 2 snaps. When Al Davis gets over himself and hire a real coaching staff and GM we will have success.
That would be hilarious and interesting. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
no
kc will be 8-8 or 9-7 really hard to beat at home in fact u might hold denver fate in u hands in w 17
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
i can see w 16
like this kc 8-7 den 8-7 sd 7-8 oak 6-9
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
I just saw bill Parcells
Left Miami. AL you have seen this man work please give him a blank check and leave the USA so we can win or build a winning team.
Why is it that every quarterback except for Bruce gets their faces smashed in behind this offensive line
He got killed last time he played..
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
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"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
man you know Bruce can do no wrong.
When he is sacked its the lines fault but everyone else is holding the ball too long. Our biggest problem is in the front office. AL needs to give it up all ready. He think we can with with these no named coaches he is crazy. There so many good coaches out there but none will come to Oakland because of AL. The best coach we can get is Jim Fassel one coach stayed in college rather than deal with us.
+1
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Because Campbell still doesn't scramble like Bruce
Not that he couldn’t he just doesn’t seem to like to. It’s beside the point anyway, because Grad did get injured while getting hit in the backfield by Shaun Phillips. Nobody is safe behind this offensive line. We’re tied for 4th in sacks given up this year.
The Raiders have a tough schedule ahead
I really hope they beat the donkeys. If they do then we have a chance. I wish we hadn’t traded our first round pick because our run defense isn’t that great and our OL is not good at all.
The O-line only gives enough time for three to step passing plays.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
The O-line only gives time for three to five step passing plays.
7 steps = sack. grad is good a three and five step passes. Its when he has to take the seven for the plays to develop is when gets sacked. Campbell is not a good three to five step QB and we know whta happens when he takes seven. Plus the O-line tries to block when Grad is in bevause he will atleast try to make a pass, and not throw at the feet of the RBin front of you.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
by 818Raiderguy on Oct 18, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
The Chiefs will win 8 games
I’m not saying much more than that. I did read alot of people calling for Vick or a qb, but when I said to get Vick everyone told me you didn’t want anything to do w/ him? A change of tides in Oakland. Chiefs should have won and Oakland really needed that W. If the Chiefs don’t win the next two at home I’m going to start thinking we really got a lucky break starting 3-0. I know the Texans and Colts are tough, but we had the Texans by the balls and let them get away. I am very disappointed in the way it unfolded Sunday. Everytime I think we are turning a corner we run into the wall.
Yeah
But you got Jacksonville and Buffalo coming up next. Chiefs ought to win both of those. If that happens you’re at 5-2, and that ain’t bad.
If we beat the broncos next week, we will technically be 2-0 in the div and take first place. haha!
You are 1-0. Not officially first though…
The RaiderLaker
Heh
Dude I’m a Chiefs fan and if you would have told me we would be 3-0 at the start of the season, i would have laughed. We got a lucky break going 3-0 and i for one knew we would most likely lose the next two games so I’m very happy with a 3-2 start, please remember we only won 4 games last year. Yes the Chiefs are playing better fundamental football and the rookies are playing lights out. Too much kool-aid is a bad thing sometimes especially when we’re talking about a team in rebuild mode.
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by CPT.Caveman on Oct 18, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
The Chiefs are going to start sucking so bad that they will actually
lose wins that they already have and end up 2-14. So there!
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by Rich Langford on Oct 18, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions
What happens if they’re caught cheating and end up getting some of their wins revoked? That’d be like, the ultimate prediction. Plus, it’s likely with all the New England staff they got over there.
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This is a great point. The KC Cheats has such a nice ring to it.
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
by Rich Langford on Oct 19, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Well keep that excuse close, that way you can use it in 3 weeks.
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im not trying to convince anyone otherwise but
we’ve been competitive in every game since the the titans game. competitive doesnt mean competent and hasnt translated into a winning season either but look at it…
everyone is upset because we didnt win 2 games in a row???
it means that we are looking forward… we have a chance in denver and we have one against seattle. ill start complaining about the season when we start to tank our season. yeah we all know, Campbell doesnt fit in our system. the safetys make a play and we would be talkin about something else so Campbell isnt the biggest problem, we got line issues defense and offense.. we got inconsistent WR’s… we got an outdated Defensive philosophy…
the list goes on… and at this point we are still in the division race. 6-10… ill take it if that means we’re gonna be in the playoffs… the team is inconsistent everyone knows that but give the team a chance to get this thing right.
the shit will wear off… trust me… if not, you’ll be back like a junkie on that show intervention!!!! they always come back!!!!
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Point taken. We will be back!
I was finally “lucky?” enough to find a reliable stream of OAK VS SF(I live in PA and u can’t watch shit except steelers,browns,bills vs whoever) . I was stoked just being able to watch a RAIDER game online without tech diff. This stoke had a short assed life. This game SUCKED- SF had SO many penalties that ANY other team other than OAK or buf would have won by 3 TDS by friggin default! I’m not stomping the RAIDER players here,but WTF???? 1st 2 series field goals, good clock consumption ,OK! But what about everyF@#$%^ thing else (aside from Lechler, dude continues to be WOW)? Sorry folks, Campbell sucks- said this off season, pre-season and NOW season. Run Murphy up the middle 2 dwns, throw a shit pass then punt.
are these the best plays we could possibly come up with for 3 qtrs?
the reversal to Murphy was the highlight of our game plan(the word PLAN here is purely sarcastic).
Is JC capable of throwing a quick pass, say 1 or 2 steps. Is screen pass even a possibility? Blame the O line if you wish, I’m watching Bradford and Colt working with what I consider much less doing much more. Miller should have 2 to 3x more production, he IS that good. Speaking of McCoy , how did we pass him up? He went late, what kind of up front $ were we looking at here?
Were we really that confident in BG and JC?
We have the worst coaching staff in the NFL
From our Owner down we are at the bottom. We don’t Develop players, Coach them or require them to practice hard.
by Micheal Y on Oct 19, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tell us something we don't know.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
Believe
The AFC West is bad but better than the dreadful NFC West.
What have we learned about the Raiders? We’re not as good as the team that overachieved & outplayed the Chargers. But we’re not as bad as the team that lost in San Francisco, either.
We’re basically a 6-10 or 7-9 team. But win a few close ones — especially against divisional opponents — and the plot thickens.
This is why it’s important for the Raider Nation to continue showing up to the Coliseum in a mind-altered frenzy. In a league infected to the core with parity, every possible advantage — including crowd noise — is magnified.
Blood is the rose of mysterious union
the A West and N West are 4-4 head-to-head so far.
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
by Rich Langford on Oct 19, 2010 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
This is why I still have hopes of winning....
….my bet that the Raiders win the AFC West.
KC will have more than 6 wins by the time the season is over.
I have to agree though the AFC West is by far the most pitiful division in the NFL while the AFC South is by far the best.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
I still say the nfc west has that honor
Record wise it doesn’t look like it but come on… You can easily make a case for the rams being the best team in that division right now and they not only lost to the raiders but lost to detroit by forty points… Arizona has done it with smoke and mirrors and sf would be oh and six if we had a below average offense and scheme last week instead of one of the worst ever… I haven’t seen much of seattle but you can’t think they’re any good…
by lchristmas on Oct 19, 2010 4:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I have large amounts of money on Seattle sucking worse than the Raiders this year
Let’s say I am starting to get a little worried. Their D is solid. Especially the run d.
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
by Rich Langford on Oct 19, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Seattle at least has some direction.
They don’t have what Oakland continues to have every year. A band of half-wits with a few over achievers mixed in here and there hoping to be enough to get the job done. Rebuild is not in Al Davis’s vocabulary so we are going to be dealing with this for the unforseen future as long as this geezer is still running the show.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
oh I totally agree
we’ll get to see a snapshot next week as well of just how their building process is going – another game we “should” win (cynicism intended)
the players on the raiders have to try to form a respectable (not good) team IN SPITE of their own management and coaching. this is the difference between us and other orgs – even traditionally shit ones like the lions and bengals at least TRY to improve
not us, baby
This article proves how low we have sunk
Misery loves company. So what if we suck. The entire division sucks.
There are all kinds of things that prove how low we have sunk.
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
by Rich Langford on Oct 19, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree, and we shouldn't "wallow in our own crapulence(simpsons)", yet
OAK vs Sf ,,,, man, it was just depressing. Truth is, I picked sf to win: 0 and 6 with a team like this?? It was HOW sf won that bugs me. The niners did little to win, and we did even less to stop them.Actually sf worked pretty HARD at losing this one yet, ah fuck it….
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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