Jumping the gun!! I'm excited !!Ask a Chiefs fan for rivilary week!
by kansas city on Oct 30, 2010 11:51 PM PDT
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I was going to wait until later in the week but I'm that excited for the game game next week! I am writing this prior to the games this afternoon so I don't know the results for Sunday yet. It doesn't matter though this game will be very IMPORTANT. The AFC West is tight and as I speak, we have a 1.5 game lead. That in under twelve hours could shrink to .5 or jump to 2.5. I have posted here a few times and you guess are some pretty cool guys. I actually posted before the season an article w/ my predictions of the AFC West. I had the Chiefs first Raiders 2nd and the Chargers 3rd..... so far so good. Regardless of schedule this will be a battle and with the division this close it's going to be a great one.
The facts to this point are-Matt is playing better tons better,but he's still a question mark. The run game is spot on and we love to run the ball. Dwayne Bowe is playing more sound football and maybe actually growing up. The Defense started great but defending the pass is our weak point. The pass rush is on and off, but we lack a consistent rusher -Hali. The special teams have shown flashes, but are not jaw dropping. The O-line is playing well and our rookie class is always impressing. Berry thus far is a run stopping machine, but tends to be a liability in pass coverage sometimes. Oh last thing Derrick Johnson is playing really good football and Shaun Smith might give Campbell a reach around that is all.
Please feel free to ask any questions and please be respectful of everyone. This is a great divisional game, but no need to shit on people in here guys. We are both teams trying to turn around a string of dismal years. So Oakland good luck and I promise we will be alot tougher than Denver lol. I'll start w/ a few questions and if you would please rec this up so when can discuss the game until opening kickoff in Oakland Sunday. Thanks!
-Who do you think is the QB that give's you the best chance to win?
- We've seen how good this team is, why do they show up bi-weekly to this point?(Road games?Effort?Injuries)
-Will the Raiders you think try or rush or pass more against our D?
-Maybe a prediction of score?
-What seems to be the problem the weeks you lose(ours is a mix of everything)
-GOOD LUCK and may their be blood, sweat, and tears left on the field that day!!
I'm going to go 27-24 Chiefs who you got?
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just because I like to rub it in lol
Jake said"I can’t see KC finishing 10-6 at all. No offence, but you guys are still the worst team in AFC West in my books."
spec says" Denver is still kind of dangerous—-forget about Tebow a second and remember Kyle Orton, who has had a stellar offseason. They aren’t exactly contenders, but, they are better than KC still.
It is San Diego’s division to lose, and it looks like the Raiders will be right there breathing down their necks."
rated r-superstar says"Kansas City is pretty improved. This is Cassel’s second year with second-year head coach Todd Haley. They have much better coordinators in Charlie Weis and Romeo Crennel. They have two really good running backs in Thomas Jones and Jamaal Charles."
Brhynno says"I think KC will be vastly improved. We will know it after you hand SD their asses opening day"—good call
RaidersNOMERCY says"Finally a non-Oak fan that has a realistic view of the upcoming season! The only diff is I expect there to be more seperation from top to bottom than 4 games.
SD will likely go 12-4 or 11-5
Oak – fuck who knows, could be anywhere from 7-9 to 10-6, dont think there is anyway we do better than 10-6 until our o-line woes are rectified
Den – Again, who knows, anywere from 6-10 to 10-6
KC – 3-13 to 5-11"
socalbolts fan says "If you look at the Chargers schedule closely
you’ll see their first 6 games consist of 5 teams that failed to go .500 last season and the Cardinals (who I doubt will go .500 this season). I can see the Bolts pulling out at least 5 wins on that stretch alone (as long as we don’t shoot ourselves in the foot to start the season off like we’ve been known to do). Granted, the rest of our schedule will be no walk in the park, but I can honestly see 11 maybe 12 wins for the Bolts this season, as long as we win the games we’re supposed to and hopefully come out on top in a few shootouts as well.—-better start winning 12 games can’t happen"
Jagger says"We will lose to San Fran though, they are good, their O-line is the x-factor.—-good call
Ok enough lol
Someone forgets about what Denver did last year.
'Like' my band. I mean, it'd be awesome if you did that.
Denver was a much different team last season
Fuck um.
by golfswithglock on Nov 1, 2010 4:32 AM PDT up reply actions
That's for sure
Wondering if McDaniels will be back next year for them? Amazing how they could start last year so impressively, fall apart down the stretch, and this year, just abysmal, despite all those draft picks they got from the Bears.
I'm wondering
If McDaniels will be back next month for them, let alone next year
I am here to inspire and light fires~~~Where there is smoke in the ears, there is me on the mind~~~
by B.A.Armstrong on Nov 1, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
The deceiving part is
when they went 6-0 they could have been 3-3 they had alot of lucky bounces and caught many breaks. They are not an organized team and a team that can’t run the ball is one dimensional and will have tough times winning on the regular.
excited as hell about this game!!!
like you ive been excited about this game since last week its so great to actually be in a game that matters in regards to the playoffs its gonna be one hell of a game!!!
i cant go because im in san diego but cmon nation we need to sell out this dam game its gonna be fucking exciting not just the fact that we flipped the division completely upside down but were competing for the top of the division!!!
not only is tom cable pulling for the nation to come in and show support but so is death ro mcclain! we need our 12th man to come in and give us our edge i want nothing more than just for the tickets to sell out!
RAIDER NATION STAND THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
ha ha. it's been pretty cool. every time I've wanted to go back to see what I wrote...
someone already did it for me! Thankfully it’s mostly shit that has us winning that I’ve been right about! lmao!
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Obviously, you're looking past Buffalo (a 7 pt dog) but I won't be too surprised when they
upset the Chiefs in their wigwam. They are due and, judging from you, KC is set up to fail this week. Hah!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
no of course not
said either way. I take no game as a sure thing
by kansas city on Oct 31, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Just watched that movie.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
me too lol
Just noticed the girl from saved by the bell show tits in that movie. Jessica Spano is the girl she played on saved by the bell. Not sure of her real name. She also get f%cked in Showgirls in a pool. Just sayin….
You speak of Elizabeth Berkeley
"God will understand. And if he does not understand, then he is not God, and we need not worry." -Orlando Bloom, Kingdom of Heaven
by angelesoterica on Nov 1, 2010 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that rings a bell
Not that hottest broad but watched saved by the bell when I was a kid and the first time I saw her naked it was like seeing a ninja turtle fuck a transformer it just blew my mind.
It's still to far away for me to make a prediction
(I’m thinking about the Seahawks still) but I agree, it’s great to see this rivalry get back to having good teams, and hopefuly competative games. The Chiefs were able to assemble quite the coaching staff, with Weis and Crennel, so my question for you about the Chiefs is, do you think that the players are really this good, or if one of the coaches were to leave, would they go right back to what they were last year?
"It takes no talent to give great effort." - Chris Petersen
by pfeifer on Oct 31, 2010 5:24 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
No I don't think so
It would be a set back for sure, but I don’t think it would go that far. We have some good young talent finally progressing and I think it’s just an overall factor. Players stepping up and better coaching combo.
by kansas city on Oct 31, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
It's the beginning of a new era!!!
Teams built through the draft are now showing up throughout the NFL the bucs, raiders, chiefs, rams, titans, texans, and the lions!! We will now have a change of power from the bottom teams to the top teams!!!
Go raiders!!! No predictions yet after the seachickens game.
by americaneagle510 on Oct 31, 2010 7:08 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
now we can talk about whose gonna be in first place in the AFC West after week 9!!!
Long story short raiders are gonna win in a close defensive minded game, its gonna come down to who can hold on to the ball longer and have the last possession. Raiders AFC WEST CHAMPS 2011
by americaneagle510 on Oct 31, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Chiefs will be first in the AFC West after week 9 no matter what won't they?
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Nov 1, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
If the Raiders win, the Chiefs will have a half game lead
but the Raiders will be in the drivers seat with a 3-0 record in the division
I am here to inspire and light fires~~~Where there is smoke in the ears, there is me on the mind~~~
by B.A.Armstrong on Nov 1, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
yes agreed
but with the tough schedule you guys have ahead compared to ours you must be even w/ us to get the tie-breaker. It will come down to the last couple games I believe.
I agree
the Chiefs have the softest schedule in the league this year =^P
I am here to inspire and light fires~~~Where there is smoke in the ears, there is me on the mind~~~
by B.A.Armstrong on Nov 1, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
They do I agree 100%
but we will take what we get and run with it. You give us lemons we make lemonade. You give us the softest schedule we will win the AFC West.
they almost let the Bills
spoil the lemons yesterday. The Raiders are on a roll, they would’ve crushed the Bills in their own house
I am here to inspire and light fires~~~Where there is smoke in the ears, there is me on the mind~~~
by B.A.Armstrong on Nov 1, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Hard to say
Like I said before the Bills are not the worst team in football and Fitzpatrick can sling the yard. They took Baltimore to OT as well. They are a decent team that just can’t find a way to win and still has alot of growing to do. If you played Buffalo tomorrow you would be surprised I think.
And Posluszny's a one man wrecking crew lately
Gailey’s got ‘em competitive again. Steve Johnson’s getting a TD every week, and we’ve know they can run. They just need to find their first W, and the floodgates will open. Their also in a tough ass division.
I agree that we’d have crushed the bills in their house tho! haha!
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
he's not bad. He has to stay of he injury list though.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Too early to predict. I’ll do that sometime next week.
As far as the Chiefs go, I still have this feeling you guys are getting incredibly lucky. Don’t mean to be a dick and not give credit, but, you’re a Chiefs fan, so I really don’t give a fuck. Ha.
I can predict one thing though, and that’s the fact that you’ll be finishing 6-10. Like slapchop said, you seem to forget what Denver did. You’re not one of the cocky ones, but I know most of you over there are spraying your shorts at the thought about KC making the playoffs. Well, don’t get your hopes up.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
This team is nothing like Denver from last year.
The Chiefs are too well coached to fold down the stretch. In addition, our scheduale looks pretty soft and you guys still have the Steelers, Miami, Indy, and you are yet to travel to SD. I find it much more likely that the Raiders will come down to earth and finish with a worse record than the Chiefs.
Chiefs win. 27-17
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
Says the fan of a team that almost lost to the Bills…
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
You guys actually lost to the 49ers
We had a bad week it happens to teams that are still growing. All that matters is we found a way to get a W. We killed the 49ers does that make us better then you?No. Any given sunday and the Ravens almost lost to the bills last week in OT just like us. Do they suck because they barely beat the bills? That is not a valid argument.
by kansas city on Oct 31, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
i truly believe those loses were attributed to the Raiders own detriment but
the chiefs are coming out on top of games the raiders should have won… out side of the woulda coulda shoulda factor… good teams must win those games and Chiefs are a good team that are winning those games.
As the Chiefs are the statistically the best team in the AFC west, the Raiders are very much up to the challenge. One thing everyone thinks is that we lost to the 9er’s and blah blah blah but not everyone knows is they woke up a sleeping giant.
The Raiders will be there to compete and it wont be a blow out like the last 2 games where we have combined over 92-17 score… it might be closer score like 35-13. much closer wouldnt you say??? lol All jokes aside. this is going to be an interesting game. not a good game statistically..but an interesting game to say the least.
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Your team is much improving
A sleeping giant though…..uh….sure we will go with that
sleeping giant works, as would an illiterate suddenly learning to read or a cook suddenly discovering fire,
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
OK... if we're not going to play nice...
You’ve actually lost to the Niners (giving them their first win) and the Cardinals (seriously?).
But yet, we’re a bad team for ALMOST losing?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Says the fan of a team that has a worse record than
the fan of a team with a better record…..
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
Ahhhh.....Chefs week
I look forward to seeing my team smack that insufferable smugness out of your team and that of your fans. This game will be a good one but ya’ll gon’ get enough of overrating the fuck out of your team and underrating the shit out of ours.
by Raider Zealot on Nov 1, 2010 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions
We are not overrated
We have been favored in one game maybe? The only people who believe in the Chiefs are their fans. I think if we played like we did Sunday we might have some problems. We have won game after game in the black hole and I hope to keep it going. You dismantled a pitiful Denver team and then to give credit where it’s due beat the 4-2 Seahawks in an impressive win. We on the other hand blew out the 49ers stomped the jags and beat San Diego with special teams much as you did. The Colts and the Texans game we played tough until the end just couldn’t pull it out. I don’t see a blowout either way, but this is a crucial game. Neither team has won 3 in a row this season and come Sunday one will.
I hope your team feels that overestimating ourselves :)
Should be a great game! Hopefully it’s fun to watch and competitive!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Should've had a "we're" in there somewhere...
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
You obviously haven't interacted with Chiefs fans at all this year.
Smugness? Really?
It’s more of a collective, “Holy crap! We’re WINNING?!? I don’t wanna wake up! I don’t wanna wake up!”
Insinuating smugness is just misguided.
Chiefs - back in the playoffs in 2011.
we got a break today for sure I'll admit it
I am the down to earth realist I believe. I’m not going to sit here and say we won so lay off. We went out today and played an incredibly sloppy game, the coaches made bad calls all over and we barely squeaked out a win with 5 seconds left in overtime. The Raiders stumbled out of the gate and I won’t give credit for beating Denver. They lost to the 49ers today. I won’t take credit for the Bills game either because it was atrocious. We are both DECENT teams this year. You are not great nor are we. This upcoming weekend will be a very important game. Whoever wins will be on a 3 game streak. This game could very well turn the division in one of our favors. This game is huge and it’s been awhile since I said that. As far as lucky yes we were today but usually I believe we earn a W. Today the Bills took the W and gave it back. Losing teams find ways to lose and for that thank you Buffalo. Just to add to this I am banned from AP therefore I hate them lol. I am a rebel Chiefs fan if that makes any sense. I do not agree w/ alot said over there and like to keep my judgment fair. If we got lucky I will tell ya, If we played good I will tell ya. I think this game will be maybe game of the year for me(unless we make the playoffs which I’m not counting).
You don't have to give us credit for beating Denver,
but dude, we beat them by 45 points. We played absolutely dominate that week, and im pretty confident in saying that we would have beaten any team in the league that day
"It takes no talent to give great effort." - Chris Petersen
True Great game
Beating any team that week….I don’t know Denver was doing some stupid shit….You did come out and play a good game this week too though. I’ll give you credit your doing very well and pre-season I picked you for 2nd. It’s like this if you beat us next week or we beat you it still doesn’t answer my question because I am not POSITIVE about either of our squads. Give me three weeks and we will see if these wins were fluke or if we are getting better. I mean we are already better so I guess contenders is the word. We had a good game last week and crapped in this one even though we won. You guys come out and crap yourselves against the 49ers but then play two great games so it’s hard to be certain.
Basically, just like most young, talented teams,
consistency is the key for both teams
"It takes no talent to give great effort." - Chris Petersen
by pfeifer on Oct 31, 2010 8:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
100% agree
When we show up we are both very good teams
Here's what I want
Call me crazy but I want the Raiders to win, not as much as the Chiefs obviously. The thing is who wants to win a division 7-9 and get rolled first playoff game? Who wants the AFC West to be the laughing stock of football? I want to win the division by going 11-5 and BARELY making it. We play the same three teams twice and If they suck what kind of practice or fun is that? I want to be the Chiefs of old that rattle off win after win. I want the Raiders to be coached by Madden and be mean as fuck. I want Elway always making me worry when we go up with 45 seconds. (You think did we leave him to much time?) I want the AFC West to be hungry and powerful and of course I want to win, but what’s winning against no competition. It’s like winning a race against a one legged man. Would you be proud? I want to come out of the Division ahead and looking into the playoffs thinking If I play these guys twice a year nothing worries me. We are getting there but work is to be done. So congrats on the win glad to see we can breathe some life into the AFC West!
Statistically we are one of the best if not the best division
btw The NFC west is the worst. and its mostly cuz of the dolts but the raders have a top 5 rushing attack and pass defense.
by americaneagle510 on Nov 1, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
ok. ok. ok.
raiders are 3-1 at home and arguably could be 4-0… ive been saying this all year, this team is a different squad and as most teams do, including the media, underestimate the raiders and will pay for it in doing so.
the chiefs will run wild but so did everyone else not named marshawn lynch… so we will see. goddamn i love being about the silver and black.
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
by gogomaplata on Oct 31, 2010 6:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It will be a good game
I see for sure a one possession game and a fight until the end. We have a knack for beating you at home so that helps. I think we will split with us winning there IMO. Could go either way though it’s the Raiders and the Chiefs so who knows?? Coin flip I’ll take Tails.
We are only beginning to peak - the coaches are figuring out what works and what doesn't
we have more talent on this team than any team in the AFC and the coaches are stepping up their game and catching up with what they have to work with. Damnation, this is easily the game of the week and a foretaste of which of the two best AFC West teams will advance.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 31, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Us as well
As for more talent then any team in the AFC West I don’t know about that. You have some talented players, but that’s a judgment call. We have tons of very young and very talented plays still growing every week. The Chargers are full of talent too just wasted over there. I think we have two young talented teams who future is bright. We have got good bounces here and there but being 5-2 and losing only to the colts and texans is an impressive accomplishment for this team. If you guys were 5-2 no matter how the games played out you would be happy. You have had 2 good wins the last two weeks, but don’t look past us because we are becoming a good football team. We also do not turn the ball over so you will have to earn every point. We unlike Denver will not hand away 21 free points.
Fat chance of that. It wasn't easy focusing on Seattle and with our bye after this Sunday - it's all about this game
but don’t look past us
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
You Go, GoGo !!!!
It’s not going to be a shoot out, not the way the Raiders are playing BALL, as of today, mind U !!! But your boy’s still scare the hell out of me. Esp. Charles & McCluster !!! I’m not to worried about Jones, long as we make tackles!!! Put Pressure on Cassell, AND YOU GUYS IN TROUBLE !!!! Your Defense is up and coming, like ours is, but they can be exploited !!! Buffalo showed that today !!! Where they failed to score, we won’t !!!
All I expect, is a good version of an OLD TIME RIVALRY REBORN!!!! You however, may not like the results !!!! Remember K.C., I’m a RaiderFan4Lyfe !!!!
Very well put
Jones is not the scary one Charles is. It will be the best game we have played for years. I see a close dog fight the only difference is I see it going the other way obviously lol. We are the new forces of the AFC West and we get to duke it out Sunday.
Rec'd to you Gogo
Damn, aint it good to be a Raider
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Oct 31, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
bring on the chiefs
buncha scrubs on that squad.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Oct 31, 2010 7:20 PM PDT reply actions
Scrubs????
Flowers
Charles
Moeaki
Berry
Arenas
Mccluster
Jones
Hali
and there’s more. You are pumped, but don’t look past us.
Oh, Come on. 3 of those are rookies. They don’t count.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
Like you wouldn't take any of them in a heartbeat :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
4 of those guys are Rookies......
sill raider math……
KC Chiefs; 10 Wins in 2010!
Win #1: Week One (Home); KC 21 - SD 14 (Monday Night Football)
Win #2: Week Two (Away); KC 16 - CLE 14
Win #3: Week Three (Home); KC 31 - SF 10
Win #4: Week Seven (Home); KC 42 - JAC 20
Win #5: Week Eight (Home); KC 13 - BUF 10 (OT)
Raider Math
1+1= Suck my Silver & Black dick, bitch.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
by JaKe. on Nov 2, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'm rec'ing that
Just because I love the consistency it shows with your sig :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
You ain't know that hippie Raider fans can be gangsta too?
Fuck is wrong wit’ you b? Hippies ain’t just flower children wit’ Volkswagens and flowers in their hair y’know? Ain’t no such thing as a soft Raider fan son.
by Raider Zealot on Nov 5, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Word. I’m really only a tough guy in the Stadium and on here though. Otherwise I’m too nice to fight. Haha.
Hippy/Raider fanatic.
I used to get into fights all the time (kind of comes with the territory on the oil rigs)...
Then I turned 22, met my wife, had kids, and realized that the measure of a man has pretty much nothing to do with fighting.
That’s just me though… we all have our own path to walk.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I went to a high school that was once tagged "the world's most violent zoo."
You pretty much had to be able to fight – being small and fast I learnt to use this to my advantage by knowing how to deal out sneaky blows.
These days, I prefer to live by the maxim “it’s not how many fights you’ve been in, it’s how many roots you’ve had.” (Round here, we use root as a euphemism for sex. Which is why I always giggle when I go on football or basketball forums and get asked who I root for).
"I hate to recommend drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson.
Yeah.
Born and raised in Sydney. My American stepdad got me into football.
"I hate to recommend drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson.
I figured after the whole "root" comment...
root and Seppos are two words that my Aussie buddies throw out there a lot…
First of all, you throwin' too many big words at me, and because I don't understand them, I'm gonna take 'em as disrespect...
thats is a product of your renewed front office...
nothing more. i believe this will be a battle of offensive schemes. ive noticed the glaring effect weis has on your offense but dont forget to acknowledge our offense. looking at the numbers, ive noticed that the chiefs defense have a hard time dealing with prolific offenses… indi, houston, and now… wait for it… the Raiders!
the only thing i think the chiefs have goin for them is the hype train but look at your schedule because its a shoe in that you guys should make the post season. only one team in the next 8 games are above .500.
so i wouldnt be surprised if you guys did make it because for us raiders we have an uphill battle.
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Of course the front office helps
The coaches help and believe it or not alot of stars came from Herm Edwards drafts. It is a combination of all these things. Also the players are actually starting to believe we can win.
by kansas city on Oct 31, 2010 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions
KC held Indy and PEYTON MANNING
to 0, count that, ZERO, passing touchdowns in that game. Last time that happened was somewhere around 2008 I think? I think we pretty much handled that “prolific” offense.
Complacency of fools destroys them!
by jscottknoell on Nov 1, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I hate the Fucking Chiefs, and I'm sure Kansas City hates the Raiders equally
I’m going to the game and I hope it’s a game of epic proportions. Go Raiders!
I like to believe my best HITS border on Felonious ASSAULT
-Jack Tatum
Thank You I guess lol
I don’t hate the Raiders as much as you would think. I just love the Chiefs and want to kill you Sunday then I wish you guys the best. Like I said I want the AFC West to be as competitive as years before. Thankfully the Chiefs and Raiders are picking up where the dolts and donkeys left off.
I remember (from at least my childhood, which is fairly recent)
that at the end of the 90’s it was always the Raiders, Chiefs and Broncos beating each other in a triangular sort of way. Those were my ‘good ole days’, and to top that the first game I ever went to was that Monday Night game here at the Stadium where Elvis Garbac through a pass to Andre Rison to win the game for the Chiefs. Those were the days in which the AFC West was the BEST division in football. That’s also the reason why I still hate the Chiefs. lol
I like to believe my best HITS border on Felonious ASSAULT
-Jack Tatum
by DarksideJU08 on Oct 31, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
The AFC West used to be a feared division. I remember the seahawk days those were fun.
by kansas city on Oct 31, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I was at that game too ... but it was far from my first ;)
F*** I was so pissed off … that was a pretty ‘big’ game too if memory serves.
Probably one of the highlights of Grbac’s career.
by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 2, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
how is any of that relevant???
just cause KC might have the best BBQ sauce doesnt mean you have the best football team.
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
I didn't say that
Why you putting words in my mouth? We are a team on the rise and we play better football. We are not the best far from it at this point. We have done enough to be in first right now and Sunday we will have to go out and play a good game in order to keep it. The Raiders show flashes of being a great team as do the Chiefs. It’s just if they can do it on the regular.
by kansas city on Oct 31, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmmm
Youre the type of guy who gives out cigarettes all day in the joint to make friends, when you should know, we only want to kill or fuck you. Man up for your team or diddy mao…
Oak 24 KC 13
Civilization ends at the waterline, after that we're all part of the food chain, and not always on top...
by Villapiano41 on Nov 5, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
If your speaking to me....
I’m the guy who gives you a few cigs in jail to make you think I’m your friend then I receive a carton from someone else for shanking your pussy ass w/ my toothbrush. I’ve been to Jail you probably have never left holding.That or they put you in a molester ward so you would be safe. Don’t talk random shit my friend you don’t know.
And Chiefs fans have the nerve to talk about us like we're criminals.
"I hate to recommend drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson.
I think the comment by Villapiano
Would probably have something to do with that image, don’t you think?
kansas city was being nice and respectful, and this
Hmmmm
Youre the type of guy who gives out cigarettes all day in the joint to make friends, when you should know, we only want to kill or fuck you. Man up for your team or diddy mao…
Oak 24 KC 13
Is the reply he gets. Doesn’t exactly help the image…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Thank you
Some people just feel the need to go for the throat.
It's cool
All this has given me the idea to do a post on AP called “Why the Raiders fans have the reputation they do”, and just taking about 20 comments from this thread and the other.
Then again, that seems like more trouble than it’s worth, and I’ve run into some classy people here.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
You don't think we could make the same kind of post?
What I am guessing we couldn’t do is go over to AP and put together a collection of low class quotes by Raiders fans.
The amount of Chiefs fans coming over to talk smack is at least ten times that of any other team.
As I said in another thread, every other week I have actually posted fanshots on the blogs of the opposition to come over, read my preview and engage in non-personal trash talk and only a few ever do and when they do, they have been polite.
I didn’t even bother with this game, because the Chiefs fans came on their own. Many of them have been great and considerate, such as yourself, but many were not.
So pardon the testiness, but some have grown cranky after a week of suffering through the ugly house-guests.
For what it’s worth, I think it’s entertaining and I enjoy the smack talk as much as the football talk. It’s like a roast.
Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you.
-The Rapist
by Rich Langford on Nov 7, 2010 1:58 AM PDT up reply actions
BTW I didn't stir that shit
V started acting tough and I don’t think your all criminals that’s a stereotype.
Oh Contrare
Football = BBQ
Arrowhead on Sunday has aroma of smoked BBQ Heaven. What is smoked outside the “Black Hole”?
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
Wait.....
What is smoked outside the "Black Hole"?
Trick question? You must be a cop, huh? Fuck yo couch homie.
by Raider Zealot on Nov 5, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Who do you think is the QB that give’s you the best chance to win?
- We’ve seen how good this team is, why do they show up bi-weekly to this point?(Road games?Effort?Injuries)
youth
-Will the Raiders you think try or rush or pass more against our D?
rush
-Maybe a prediction of score?
27-17
-What seems to be the problem the weeks you lose(ours is a mix of everything) youth/inconsistency
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
lol if your asking me....wheres your answer?
-Showing up bi-weekly has not really been the case as more as finding a way to beat good teams on the road.
-We are a run first team and we average the most yards
-You know my prediction
- We have either a lapse of defense or offense. Special teams have not been a problem. The O didn’t do enough in the Colts game and the D blew a fair lead in the Houston game.
I see him being the catylist in us winning.
A pair of fumbles, sacks and Int’s from him you will see. We are coming off destroying the Seahawks’ O-line for 8 sacks, I see 5 nasty ones in the KC game against Cassel..
The RaiderLaker
I doubt it
But maybe.
If Cassel turns the ball over that many times, it will be more times than he has all year combined. Which is why he’s good for our offense. And talking about turnovers… Did you know that despite markedly less PT, Campbell has fumbled 5 more times and thrown 1 more pick than Cassel? :)
Let’s not get carried away about that D of yours just yet… even after two great games, you’re still middle-of-the-pack in the rankings. Two very good games against two “meh” offenses does not a great defense make. Now you hold us to under 175 rushing… I’ll be impressed (and hey, you might!)
Should be a fun game, but let’s face it, neither of our teams is so dominant that we can expect anything like what you seem to be expecting.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
We haven't played against a running game like KCs
but KC hasn’t played against a running game like ours, either. I also don’t think you’ve seen RBs deployed in the fashion we do, either. I know for a fact you haven’t seen a full back run and receive like Marcel Reese.
I expect what I’ve grown to expect over the course of my fandom. A close game that comes down to which team makes the fewest mistakes. If we can force some mistakes from Cassel or Charles early, it could get ugly, likewise if Campbell or DMC puts the ball on the ground…
I do think you’ll see more natural pressure from our front four than you’ve seen since Indy, and I’ll be willing to bet your interior line will see more pressure from our DTs than they’ve seen all year. Seymour and Kelly make our D go, if you can limit them, you’re in business…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Nov 1, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm excited for a chance
To see a decently played, well-executed, hard-fought game!
I’ve had enough of these ugly games between our teams, know what i mean?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Agreed
I watched the stinker at Arrowhead last year from the stands, and while I was happy with the win, neither team deserved to win that game…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Nov 3, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I agree
That was one of those, “how about we all just act like this never happened?” games…
Although hey, a W is a W I suppose.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Nope we haven't
Arian Foster, Maurice Jones-Drew, and Frank Gore are all scrubs compared to his greatness, McFumblin.
Matt does not turnover the ball alot
and he did lead us to the game winning FG although it was against the Bills at home in OT w/ 45 sec left. That being said Matt is a game manager not a game changer thus far.
I am not even going to start thinking about this one yet!
Today was awesome and would’ve been even awesomer had the NFL already changed that stupid timeout field goal rule.
I promise; I will never die.
Dear Kansas City,
You posted last week that “There’s no way the RRRAIDERS are better than the Seahawks at this point”. After we beat you this weekend, please refrain from further jack wagon comments on this site. Thank you. Drive thru.
lol
Hey what can I say the Seahawks played a turd game and you guys showed up two weeks in a row.
As a Raiders fan that grew up two hours south of KC (Pittsburg, KS)
This is the best week leading up to this game in quite some time. I also need my Raiders to hold serve at home, or my facebook will get lit the fuck up by queef fans.
I think this game will be very entertaining as the two best rushing teams in football square off. While the Chiefs have the better stats, I think our RBs might be more versatile, especially our fullback. Don’t get me wrong, Jamaal Charles and Thomas Jones fall into my Derrick Thomas/Jerad Allen category of players I would be a huge fan of if they played for a different team. I just think our three headed monster of Reece, DMC, and Bush who can all break off long runs, but can also be factors in the passing game gives us a little edge at the position group. You do have the best named fullback in the NFL, though. Any announcer that doesn’t chuckle when he says “Mike Cox just blew that hole open for Jones.” needs to have his pulse checked.
When y’all have the ball, it’s going to come down to the trenches. I would imagine we’re going to stack the box to stop your running game, and hope for natural pressure from our front four when Cassell drops back. If we get that pressure, like we did against Seattle, it could be a very long day for your offense. We have to continue to attack. Is Lilja going to be healthy this week, or will the rookie Asomoah get another start this week?
Of your front 7 I’m only really scared of Dorsey and DJ, but they’re playing very well right now. I like your young secondary, but I’m hoping they’re planning on flooding the flats to stop DMC which should open some play action looks down the field. Make no mistake, our WRs are green, but they can fly. That said, I really like Flowers. I also like Carr, but think he can be beaten by straight speed…I’d like our passing game better if we were healthy, but we’re missing our top two WRs. Miller will be a matchup problem for you, as he is with just about everybody. If you can pressure Campbell, he’ll make some bad throws.
All in all, I think this is an evenly matched contest. I think we’re the more talented squad, but I give you the edge in coaching based on your coordinators, and the fact that Crennel is taking roughly the same cast of characters from last and getting much better production than Pendergast. Weis is doing what I expected, which is running the ball, and I’m seeing about the results I expected from that unit, though Bowe’s maturity is a surprise. I like what your secondary does in run support, but I think our teams have the same goals. Run the ball, stop the run, look for the occasional big play.
Special teams is a wash. Defense, to me, is a wash. Offense, to me, is a wash. I think this game will be a battle, but we get one more big play than you do Raiders 28-24.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
nice
Just to respond to your third paragraph Tamba Hali is a bad man.
Veldheer has trouble against power guys... he will shut down Hali. We went up against a cat named Clemons-
who is a pass rush/sack specialist and we shut him down. Clemons had 6 sacks in the season going into the Raider game and he had nil against us. I see Hali has 7 sacks…
The RaiderLaker
Hali has moves
but he is mainly a speed rusher w/ a hell of a motor. He doesn’t take plays off and will get a few sacks or at least pressures regardless.
That picture is fantastic
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Myabe he will
But Hali’s more than just a sack artist at this point. He’s strong and is great at “hand wars”. Another fun matchup to watch!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Well, I guess he will have those "hand wars" with the floor.
After he gets thrown like a rag doll…
The RaiderLaker
by JaggerJaw on Nov 1, 2010 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha maybe that's how it'll go
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
So you're saying....
Your rookie LT, who Tom Cable thought was a Center, is going to shut down the guy that PFF says, and I quote…
“Tamba Hali (+7.6). Hali is rushing the passer as well as anyone. He feasted on both Colts tackles in this one to the tune of one sack, two hits and eight quarterback pressures. Those are the kind of numbers that will get Hali in consideration for Defensive Player of the Year.”
Clemons who? We’ll see if Veldheer can take off his diapers after getting a dose of Hali all game.
"To the tune of one sack ... will get Hali ..blah blah blah"
You call that production, 1 sack a game?! Who is PFF? … embarrassing
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 2, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Pro Football Focus
Widely regarded as one the best statistics sites on the web. Judging by your math though, this won’t change your opinion. 1 sack a game = 16 on the season. Considering 17 was the league leader last year, I’d say that averaging a sack per game is great production. Talk about embarrassing.
No, no, blah blah blah is a much better argument. Hahahah. You make it too easy, I love Raider week.
by Chiefphish on Nov 2, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, but even if he gets a sack... it will be just that... a single sack.
We on the otherhand have many weapons. Our LB corp is way better than yours… I don’t even know who they are. I know Dorsey, Flowers, Berry, Hali… and that’s it. And Berry is a rook, he makes mistakes…
And we have a known D-line. (Seymour). Secondary, Nnamdi… but he may be out for this game…
The RaiderLaker
Well
You got
Derrick Johnson (WILB) – putting together a pro bowl year so far
Jovan Belcher (SILB) – Undrafted 2nd year player, having a very good season. Incredible physical specimen. Went to a small college in Maine so he was an unknown. Looks like a diamond in the rough
Mike Vrable/Andy Studebaker (WOLB) – Vrable is nearly past his prime, but his knowledge and teaching is invaluable. Studebaker is quickly becoming a stud as Vrable’s replacement.
And Hali…
My question is "who" not "what" .... ProFootballFocus is a cooperative with individual writers and analysts
some admittedly biased as fans. Anyway, someone wrote what you quoted because entities don’t write anything. JJ understood immediately what alluded your inbred brain (not that it’s your fault that your parents are siblings) – that getting 1 sack does not equal 16 sacks for the season.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 2, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's why I don't enjoy Chief's week - I don't like it easy
PFF says, and I quote…
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 2, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
You call that production, 1 sack a game?!
- Sons-of-Blanda
I’ll go slowly for you. One sack a game over 16 games is…. 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 for a total of 16.
JJ understood immediately what alluded your inbred brain
Since you seem bent on insulting my intelligence, lets analyze what you just tried to say.
First of all – to allude v. –verb (used without object),-lud·ed, -lud·ing. 1. to refer casually or indirectly; make an allusion (usually fol. by to): He often alluded to his poverty. …
I will go ahead assume you meant ‘illude’ which is to deceive or trick. So, if JJ understood (which he might have because he actually was referring to Hali getting one sack against the Raiders, per his one sack per game average) he never alluded to it in his post (see what I did there) . So now you are just making shit up.
Grunt once if you understand, twice if you are still stuck on that word allude.
by Chiefphish on Nov 2, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Admit your a queer out of closet. Show your face at this game and
I guarantee I’ll smash it.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 2, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Jesus guys
can we bring back the civil nature of a Raiders vs Chiefs post? Oh…..Carry on…
When was it ever civil? This provincial team bandwaggoner
has been instigating in his passive-aggressive way all day long. But enough. Really. It ultimately comes down to the game. We’ll prevail (find a way to minimize your rushing game) and that’s that.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 2, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions
It was a joke Blanda
The game will come down to who makes the least amount of errors.
If so, a poor attempt at joking, laced with self-aggrandizement
If he comes to a rivals’ blog, he should answer questions, not evade them. Imagine, he immediately run to your blog to gather support for his ego.
by Spirals galore on Nov 2, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
was that directed at me?
I wasn’t even that convo so I think you came in late and misunderstood. I told him I was joking about the civil thread between Raiders and Chiefs fans.
Resulting to physical threats because you lost a debate?
Hope you enjoy the Raiders game from your prison cell….if the Raiders game isn’t blacked out.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
Why don't you go back to your kitchen, Bitch? Or did your brothers toss you out agin?
p.s. the day I lose a debate to the likes of any of your breed, I’ll hang myself
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 3, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I know you were pissed and all
and I don’t give two fucks about AP and she was acting not right but calling Women bitches is never a right move.
You presume to teach manners? Let's be clear, I hate your teams and its fans.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 3, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I know you hate the Chiefs and the fans(blah blah blah)
Just don’t talk to women like that. Ok, so I hate the Raiders so I can call any Raider chick a bitch and it’s ok because I hate the Raiders. The reasoning behind that is less than brilliant.
Bitch is a female dawg.
You have something against female dawgs?
by Spirals galore on Nov 3, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I've always been respectful to you
I’m sorry that would stick up for a term used to degrade your gender. It’s ok though I’m a Chiefs fan booo me I get it lol.
You have been respectful, yes.
Maybe this is because I haven’t used stereotypes, no? Or is it because you think I’ll crumble if you call me names?
by Spirals galore on Nov 3, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions
no not all
What stereotype? I don’t think I did correct me if I’m wrong?
You are really self- conscious, aren't you:)
The stereotyping I referred to was Supreme Chief’s – and talk about Raiders being convicts, among other things, is frequent on AP.
This whole thread, frankly, had nothing to do with you, initially – regardless of what you thought, Sons’ comment was to Chiefphish, not you.
by Spirals galore on Nov 4, 2010 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Ok thank you
On the blanda thing I put myself in it. I would of if he was talking to a Raider girl,Just think you should treat women all respectable like. Penguins too
-man
I am a non-native speaker of this tongue.
by Spirals galore on Nov 4, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't stereotyping.
Stereotyping = making hasty generalizations. I was only commenting on ONE fan’s anger issues.
Physically threatening a person on a blog makes me think someone has MAJOR anger issues. Assuming he’d actually follow through with his threat, he’d most certainly be watching the game from a prison cell, wouldn’t he? Hence the comment. Sorry if that went way over your heads.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
What are you - a state sponsored psychologist?
Your assumptions are pathetically one-dimensional. What are you – a square?
by Spirals galore on Nov 5, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions
No.
I’m just a person who knows the difference between a stereotype and commenting on someone’s hostility.
I figured you would also realize the difference, but I’m apparently asking too much. That comment warranted little to no explanation.
Maybe your hypersensitivity to another’s comments caused you to jump the gun? Ever think of that?
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
à la guerre comme à la guerre
You said that much elsewhere. So stick by your own statement and develop thick skin.
by Spirals galore on Nov 5, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure nothing has phased me on here.
Based on your reaction/response, you’re suffering from hypersensitivity.
Nowhere have I said Raider fans will be watching the game from inside a cell…nor have I said anything like it. That would be a stereotype or hasty generalization.
I’m merely calling you out on your assumption. Consider it an FYI. It has nothing to do with being thin-skinned. In fact, if you read several of my other responses to personal attacks, I’m pretty sure your opinion would change a tad.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
Never assume anything about anyone.
Especially when it comes to statements on a post like this. Yeah, I’ve read your comments – they are inconsistent.
by Spirals galore on Nov 5, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Uh huh. I'm sure.
A lighthearted or sarcastic response to being called a ho or homeless does not equate to being inconsistent.
And you say never to assume anything about anyone…but didn’t you assume my comment was a stereotype? Guess that makes both of us inconsistent.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
Hell yeah
Velma and Daphne are up there on the list of chick costars I’d like to see scissor bang.
by golfswithglock on Nov 5, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Betty White and Rue McClanahan are on the list two.
by golfswithglock on Nov 5, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd love to see Claire and Denise Huxtable do the dirty....
But so much for wishful thinking…..
by Raider Zealot on Nov 5, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Um......
Pretty sure Rue wouldn’t put up a fight seeing how she’s dead. She may be a bit stiff, though. Just warning you.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
It's my fucking list
Get your own, nerd.
by golfswithglock on Nov 5, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Nerds don't have lists of guys to bang.
Nerds have lists of goals they wish to achieve in life.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
Gay but true.
Last on my list are men. First is making something of myself. Once a successful woman, the men will come…no, that wasn’t a pun or Freudian slip.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
I'm already awesome
so I’ll stick with my list of skanks. Do the Chiefs play in Kansas or Missouri?
by golfswithglock on Nov 5, 2010 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Is this even relevant to the topic at hand?
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
The topic is either "Fuck the Chiefs" for 300
Or “Apetit” for 5, Alex.
by golfswithglock on Nov 5, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Apetit sounds like a National Geographic special.
I’ll take that.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
Turd Ferguson.
It’s a funny name. Good trash talking with you Squaw. See you in here on Monday after we mouthrape your team. RRRAIDERS.
by golfswithglock on Nov 5, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I cain't even front like I wouldn't smash Velma tho.
Nerd bitches give the best brain….
by Raider Zealot on Nov 5, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
That's funny
Not much you say is but that was
tu quoque doesn't help you.
Just go back to your blog – is it too boring there?
by Spirals galore on Nov 5, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
On the contrary.
It’s rivals week. I’m a ’tweener. Back and forth. Why do you care so much?
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
You look like Velma from scooby doo
That show was pretty cool. Are you into solving mysteries? Maybe you can track down the driver of the truck that’s gonna plow through your team Sunday. Decription:
White male, husky, black polo shirt, short hair, tendancy to pummel weasel assist coaches, and slap a bitch or two.
by golfswithglock on Nov 5, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks, I guess.
I’d have to disagree with the latter portion of your post, however. No shocker there.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
Me and the rest of the Alpha's are throwing a party later
Leave Lewis and that queer black dude back at the Lambda house.
by golfswithglock on Nov 5, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
You know what they say...
the nerds you picked on in high school are more likely to become your boss.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
Never happen
I moved out of state. Fresh nerds.
by golfswithglock on Nov 5, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
You never know.
I bet Bill Gates is having the last laugh on all his naysayers.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
Doesn't matter
Until he invents a time machine to go back into the past, start nailing cheerleaders like planks and undo all the wedgies, he’s scarred for life.
by golfswithglock on Nov 5, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Hm.
Pretty sure the massive amounts of money he rolls in on a nightly basis is enough to mask those scars.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
This is a desperate assumption
I believe brother Vedder said it best when he sung
Sorry is the fool who trades his soul for a corvette.
Thinks he’ll get the girl he’ll only get the mechanic.
What’s missing? He’s living a day he’ll soon forget.
That’s one more time around. The sun is going down.
The moon is out but he’s drunk and shouting.
Putting people down. He’s pissing. He’s living a day he’ll soon forget.
Counts his money every morning. The only thing that keeps him horny.
Locked in a giant house that’s alarming.
The townsfolk they all laugh.
Sorry is the fool who trades his love for hi-rise rent.
Seem the more you make equals the loneliness you get.
And it’s fitting. He’s barely living a day he’ll soon forget.
That’s one more time around and there is not a sound.
He’s lying dead clutching Benjamins. Never put the money down.
He’s stiffening. We’re all whistling a man we’ll soon forget.
Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.
by Rich Langford on Nov 5, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
To be fair...
I’m pretty sure he can nail every cheerleader he wants right now and pay for people to dole out wedgies in revenge.
"I hate to recommend drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson.
Yep...
He’s likely grown up enough to not really care about that kind of stuff though.
But yeah, the option of that is definitely available to him. I’m guessing that helpes him sleep at night.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Actually, he and his wife have a foundation
that gives millions of dollars to medical research. Cheap sluts and revenge of the nerd isn’t what he’s about.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 6, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
What?
You mean that’s not what adults think about? Get outa town!!!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
You pathetic waste, why don't you go back to Bugtussle
Oh, that’s right, because you’ve been banned for defamation, i.e spreading harmful lies about someone. You are wasting space here and precious resources by existing. Why not dedicate your sorry ass to science?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 3, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny I was thinking
before I logged back on you would say something about me being banned at AP then sure enough. I’m not going to fight w/ you so your wasting your breathe. I just said that’s not a respectable way to treat a girl regardless of situation. You win yay for you.
humans are humans whatever's betwixt the thighs
and respect is earned not automatic. Let me guess, you we’re raised by an old aunt (whose breathed smelled rancid) who taught you all the “nice” and “middle class” conventions. You bourgeois mid-westerns, I should pity you but for my contempt.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 3, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
So wrong...
You couldn’t be more off base. My father raised me to respect women and fear god. You can say what you want about me though doesn’t mean anything. I am middle class though so I guess I’m scum.
I thought we were supposed to talk about football?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
The defamation thing
is something you just made up and then told me what it meant. Yet already knew. I was not banned for that and if you know the reason I’m banned please fill me in because I don’t know? Anyway you made that up and that is defamation of character.
foolish fool ....
I think I was banned for puting up a pic ..of Jamarcus Russell w/ no shirt on and a rainbow behind him and it said"GAY". My problem though is I was drunk and apologized 100 times and since then have been on the site hundreds of times to see people say "NO HOMO" and many other negative things said about homosexuals with not one mention of them getting in trouble. Also mine wasn’t to bash gays it was just a funny pic and funniest thing ever is it got rec’d before they banned me and deleted it lol. It was something personal and they just won’t admit it. It’s sad though cause I love Chiefs and football and there are alot of cool guys over there. For shit sake they have a guy named HIV 2 ELWAY. If someone had that terrible disease that would be offensive as hell! I mean I understand it was a mistake but I apologized and it wasn’t that bad, if a football blog has that thin of skin that’s sad. They just have their favorites over there and I wasn’t one? I mean really guys is that a banned for life thing I did? Not even a removal and warning? It don’t add up but glad I can talk football w/ you guys my team or not so let’s do that and move on. (Nothing to see here folks move it along)
by kansas city on Sep 20, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 4, 2010 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions
the whole "no Homo" thing is brought up
as a joke because D bowe said it once in an interview…
so when there is any type of comment that can be interpreted, even vaguely, as quasi-homosexual…the no homo in qoutes is pasted in…..
Hey...How'd everyone get in my room?
That is not defamation
You implied I was a liar. Notice the I think part too. You love just to try and prove a mute point to death huh? You implied I was a liar and what about quoting me? That had nothing in it so why the hell do you go hunt it down to paste it here?
You dumbass, you don't know when to quit. And I appologize for "implying " that you're a liar - that was weak of me, You are a Liar
The defamation thing
is something you just made up …I was not banned for that … Anyway you made that up and that is defamation of character.
by kansas city on Nov 4, 2010 12:00 AM PDT
I think I was banned for puting up a pic ..of Jamarcus Russell w/ no shirt on and a rainbow behind him and it said"GAY". My problem though is I was drunk and apologized 100 times … I mean I understand it was a mistake but I apologized and it wasn’t that bad … They just have their favorites over there and I wasn’t one? I mean really guys is that a banned for life thing I did?
by kansas city on Sep 20, 2010 6:16 PM PDT
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 4, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Quit reposting the same SHIT!
I said I was not banned for lying or defamation. You are just twisting the shit out of the context and completely over using block quote. Does block quote and making shit up make you right? No it makes you an asshole. Go back and read you shit you were acting like I was a liar. Which I’m not
To Sons....
Here’s a toast to the assholes
by Raider Zealot on Nov 3, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice tumblers ... cheap sluts
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 3, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
It's all about appreciating good head.... on good beer.
"You talkin' to me? You TALKIN' to me ?" - Travis Bickle
You guys stick dicks in beer bottles?
How very uncivilized of you……
by Raider Zealot on Nov 5, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it’s funnier they fit in the bottle. Ha!
Hippy/Raider fanatic.
by JaKe. on Nov 5, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
My place in the kitchen will remain vaccant.
I hate cooking. Nice try, though.
So have you set an execution date yet?
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
Execution begins at 1:15 PST this Sunday...
you get a 1-hr stay, no more.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 5, 2010 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, shame to say I'll miss it.
I’ll send you a noose via Fed-Ex. ;)
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
Nobody will miss it; it'll be headline news ... 3 decisive wins ... not since 2002
Oakland is back and you must learn your place … grovelling again beneath the Silver & Black standard.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 5, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
by SupremeChief on Nov 5, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
So you're admitting
That you were wrong about your “1 sack a game” comment?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Hardly. What passes for reasoning in your colony?
In this instance, a single game is generalized into a projected season. This is a fallacy of presumption (Composition). Most of your kins arguments are textbook examples of inductive fallacies. It’s infuriating when the ignorant rise to power and shamelessly flaunt their crassness.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 4, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
If you're attempting to make me feel uneducated
Perhaps you should add an apostrophe when indicating possession.
Your phrasing (“1 sack a game”) is clearly not talking about merely one game. Unless you forgot to add the word “in” (which may be the case, I have no idea what you may have meant to type).
So it is only natural that one would project those numbers over a longer period of time to see if, in fact, “1 sack a game” is productive. Turns out that it is.
Your phrasing led to the so-called “presumption”. It happens. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve phrased something incorrectly and been misunderstood :) (I’m sure my wife could tell you).
Why the hostility? Do you feel disrespected in some way or something?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
This is called 'baiting' then when someone reacts you take the passive-aggressive stance
So you’re admitting …That you were wrong about your "1 sack a game" comment?
Your methods are primitive. As for spelling, I put more emphasis on communication than following rules. But if I’m losing you for lack of a diacritical mark then education is probably doing you more harm than good.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 4, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Wouldn't you say
That your ridiculously over the top and violent response to another person warranted some baiting?
You seem pretty sharp, so I assumed that you’d take my comment for what it was; a commentary on the fact that you never addressed the issue at hand with your response.
Again, I don’t see the reason for being insulting or condescending.
Did I imply that you were losing me, or did I offer a suggestion based on your rather superior attitude? I thought you didn’t like presumption… why would you presume you were losing me?
I couldn’t care less if someone has spelling/grammatical mistakes… until they start acting as if they believe they’re the smartest guy in the room.
If you’re going to project yourself a certain way, then you’re going to be held to a different standard.
Yes, I baited you. And frankly, you deserved it. But can you really be upset about a little baiting (done to make you think) after the way you’ve been talking to others?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Does this really need to be a
“mine is bigger than yours” contest?
Look, I like me, you clearly like you, life is short, if I offended you I’m sorry. Can we move on with our lives?
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
...Yes, by all means, on with our lives ....after we kick your asses back where they belong.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 4, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
That's the spirit!
And hey, I started another one of these for serious football questions if you have any about the Chiefs…
Not that I doubt your knowledge of the game, of course, but it’s sometimes interesting to hear a fan’s perspective.
In either case, best of luck Sunday!
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
MN you're bothering arguing with a guy who claimed the Raiders are the most talented team in the AFC
He wasn’t even worth hitting the reply button for.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
Very true GenericBrand.
We have absolute inferior talent than you guys, and our coaches don’t compare to yours. You have great schemes, great players and more talent than us. Hell, why are we even playing this game, the Chiefs are just going to blow us out. I love the big names on your team and the Pro Bowlers!!
*The Chiefs are a SB team that can totally beat teams like the Pats, Ravens, Pitt, Saints, Titans and Giants and Colts.
The RaiderLaker
Thanks
You didn’t have to say that, but it’s appreciated nonetheless…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Never use sarcasm with these people
either they actually misunderstand it or feign naivete and twist it against you. KC is either at your throat or at your feet. I’ve followed them for years. Make no concessions for them and do not be deceived by their sly ways!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 4, 2010 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I love it...
You take the intellectual road until someone takes it too far for you to follow, then throw out the “ill beat you up” arguments.
Stay Classy, Oakland!
You, in the wife-beater T
I’ve never lost an argument to any of your brood of vipers.
Incidentally, the vulgarism of preference with Chief fans, viz. ‘Classy’, is a term used only by the lower-class. We can’t help our blood-lines and I’m just grateful for the aristocratic Silver & Black coursing through my veins.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 6, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes! the Raiders are 2nd place only to God
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 6, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I've no doubt that KCitizens are Champions
… of spelling contests and usages of commas and colons. The grammar schools must be good in Missouri, but then, 6th grade is MO’s equivalent of undergraduate studies elsewhere and the it’s rare High School grads enjoy the status given to PhD’s in California.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 6, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure what the point of that comment was...
…so I’ll just reply by saying This sunday will be a return to reality for Oakland. Enjoy your 2 game winning streak while you can.
Your people have been correcting our
spelling all week. I’m sensitized. You seem okay, so I’ll wish you a peaceful day and a gentle death.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 6, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
You do realize...
I was being sarcastic as well, right?
You had to. There’s no way you missed that.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Then, you too warrant a merciful death
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 6, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you ever answer Sons' question?
Who wrote the article on Hali? Where do his sympathies lie?
Check some articles on blogiquette, btw. It’s poor taste to avoid answering questions by fixating on others’ spelling. Frankly, your efforts at displaying erudition are a bit much, no? Sunt qui ne cadant semper ad alios harpeant.
by Spirals galore on Nov 2, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I like Tamba Hali
but he’s really all you have in a pass rusher. He’s got 7 sacks, meanwhile our part time rush ends Wimbley and Shaugnessy have 5 each. Dick Seymour has 4.5, and Tommy Kelly has 3.5. Basically, when you’re in an obvious passing situation, you have pick your poison because all the guys lining up in the four man front can get to the QB…throw in the occasional safety blitz and it could be an ugly day for Cassel. Just ask Hasselbeck about our pass rush (8 sacks last week).
I’m really interested to see how your interior line (Waters, Weigmann, and my sources tell me Lilja will be back this week) fares against our DTs. It’ll be even more interesting if Big John Henderson is back this week. That matchup, IMO, will tell who wins the game. If our DTs can hold the point of attack, the running game has to bounce outside. While this may play to Charles strengths, it also plays to our pursuit. We need to put this game in Cassel’s hands…
I would imagine both teams will focus on stopping the run, as we’re the top two rushing teams in the NFL. I think our running game is a little more diverse because, while I like Thomas Jones, he’s not the true hammer we have in Bush. We’re also starting to see some end arounds that incorporate the skills of Jacoby Ford, Johnnie Lee Higgins, and even the break away speed of DHB…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Nov 3, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys do have great balance rushing the passer
It’d be nice for us to get Studebaker on the field more often. Vrabel just doesn’t get in the backfield much anymore.
And you’re right about TJ. He’s not a hammer. He does run that way sometimes, but he’s more a vision and “one cut” kind of guy who falls forward to consistently gain yards.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Tamba Hali has more QB Pressures than all those guys combined
He needs to put more of those to sacks but I’m happy.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
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Thanks for the heads up, we'll put one our of our rookies on him
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 6, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
No problem
but yeah you guys are more balanced in pass rush department…I hate that.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
Picks
71-46
Oh to add to my previous comment
Lilja should get the start and I think your prediction is spot on minus we score more points lol. Your right though like I said pre-season we are two very similar football teams. The only difference is I think we have better coaching and I would take Charles over any RB in the league. I think you guys would trade any of your RB’s for AP or CJ or JC for that matter.
Not so
Have you been paying attention to Darren McFadden’s year? He’s in beast mode…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Nov 3, 2010 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
trade deadline has passed.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Are you kidding?
McFadden is 7th in the league in rushing and is a great receiver out of the backfield as well. He’s better than the 3 you mentioned. NO WAY I would trade him for anyone.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
by TAW on Nov 3, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I like how you act like Jamaal is better than Adrian and Chris Johnson. Ha!
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
He avg more YPC than both of those guys
and if he got the touches and didn’t split carries he would have better everything. He proved last year he was just as good if not better than those guys. I repeat 6.5 YPC that’s impressive hate it or not.
if he got the touches and didn’t split carries he would have better everything.
Or worse. What if he gets 2 yards the next two tries? His average will decrease.
Also, DMC splits carries with Bush.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
like I said he has 100 less yards
but 60 less carries than AP. So if he avg 2 YPC for those 60 carries he still has more yards. In reality he would probably get 5 YPC or so seeing that he avg 6.5. That would make him 200 yards above AP.
That would also mean he has to be THE workhouse back.
How is his stamina you think if he gets 25 carries a game?
And yeah, he’ll probably get around 3-4 yards a carry. So would DMAC. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Yeah I do
maybe spell him out here and there but 80% of the carries.
looking at him, he might be.
the one thing JC has over him may be strength, and balance.
McFadden has EXTREME acceleration and speed. He also has some strength in him, and has very good catching hands.
At this moment, he is not. Will he be? Well, he looks like he can make a case for it.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
DMC for Charles?
nope. McFadden, when he’s healthy, is a tougher matchup. He’s 6’3" 220 and IF he’s slower than Charles, it ain’t by much. His size makes him more versatile in the passing. He’s just a better athlete, and he’s finally translating is athletic gifts to the NFL.
I like Jamaal Charles, but he’s not in the league of AP or CJ just yet. Neither is McFadden, but I think both can get to that level. Once you get to that level it’s a matter of preference, and I prefer the guys we have…McFadden will win the rushing title if he stays healthy the rest of the way…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Nov 5, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Darren ran a 4.33 official and a 4.27 unofficial
Charles ran a 4.38 official. Darren’s the faster back but like Bo Jackson his height kinda takes away from his world class speed.
by Raider Zealot on Nov 5, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Darren has more
straight line speed, but that Charles accelerates faster and is shiftier. The revelation with DMC this year is that he’s running lower and with more power, and it’s giving great results…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Nov 5, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I would imagine we’re going to stack the box to stop your running game
Haha… you said stack the box. Good luck.
I hates me some donkeys...
That's not all...
we are going to stack the box and then pound the Bush.
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 1, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Everyone has seen Oakland's immaculate Bush but what they will see Sunday is that same
Bush on fire
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
You got a bush but we might just bust out our cox and really pound ya know what I mean? Even if you stack our box our Cox is to big and strong not to drill it in.
Your Cox is impressive
but don’t forget our franchised Dick at DT
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 1, 2010 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
A trenchant analysis
Nicely done, and I agree with everything you just said.
Clearly neither team can look at what’s been accomplished by their squad this year and say “oh, there’s no doubt we’re better/will win” or anything of that sort.
Although based on overall yardage stats, we (meaning the S&B) have both the higher ranked offense and defense. Not that this matters all that much.
AFA the ‘talent’ question goes … it’s largely irrelevant IMHO. Raider have always had a ton of talent, but clearly they’ve not always been good because of it.
All you gotta do is look at the Browns beating NO at their house last week to know … talent ain’t everything by any stretch.
Hell, I wouldn’t even consider the Pats to be in the top 10 most talented teams this year. Esp. since they traded Moss and Welker is out. But they have BB and TB … which makes them a very good team.
by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 2, 2010 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Why have you guys been so good?
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Is that a loaded question lol??
Anyway the run game shows up every week and maintains ball control keeps our defense fresh and everyone actually believes we can win. We had alot of people step up at the same time and the results show. I would be honestly surprised if we got blew out any game this season. We are a running ball control offense and a bend but don’t break D. So far it’s been enough to rattle off wins though winning against good teams on the road has been a problem.
Not 100% sure at this point
I’m going to go with questionable w/ game time decision I’ll update when I know for a fact.
Chris Johnson passed his concussion tests
and will be ready to go.
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 1, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe he was referring to Stanford Routt
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Right, right
Yeah, no problems with Stan the Man! Locked and Loaded baby.
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 1, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
by JaKe. on Nov 2, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tuggernuts! I got your Tivo!
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 2, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Can we get a couple more rec's here?
Is this a great article, no but were half way down the fan post list on Monday lol. On that note I would like to complain about Weis for 1 second. When we pass the ball on 4th and 1 and we are the no.1 rushing team in the NFL I want to pull my hair out. I mean obviously he has helped tons that’s just my one complaint.
I am also in the Hosue as a Chiefs fan
Just saw this post. Another Classy chiefs fan beat me to it
2010 Kansas City Chiefs:11-5
by Weatherman Kumke on Nov 1, 2010 3:18 PM PDT reply actions
Say, KC
Since you are a castout, are we likely to have a “Ask an Arrowhead Pride dude” thread in here, basically two different KC vs. Raiders threads?
I'm sure there'll be another post
Probably more than enough questions/smack talk to go around…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
maybe but I'm smarter j/k'ing
All Chiefs fans are welcome in this thread and this could be considered the weekly one I guess? I am here quite a bit and love the Chiefs so I jumped on it. There is no point really in two threads…..I just love the Chiefs and you guys have been pretty decent to me considering I’m a Chiefs fan. Honestly I have been treated better here as a Chiefs fan then on the Chiefs site….No offense but if your not Kalo or Beswaf or a regular your nobody over there. I guess you can say I’m the outcast..I smoke like a chimney..drink like a fish…and I’m not the normal chiefs fan who thinks the Raiders are convicts. I love football end of story and I really don’t get along w/ alot of Chiefs fans…I guess I’m to obscene. Anyway if there’s two threads so be it…..They could just count this one, but I’m to outcast to represent the classy folks of AP right?
uh dude
Yeah, there’s certainly a click over at AP. But how you describe it, is nothing like what I’ve seen over there the past two years. The people in the click are the ones that write the most. If you write, you’ll be part of that click you seem to secretly admire.
There are good writers and bad. Meaning it’s not a write off. Everyone respects each others views for the most part. I haven’t really seen anyone blasted off of AP without cause. They’re a pretty good bunch of people over there. I’m a little befuddled as to what the heck you’re talking about.
I’m not part of the click, because I don’t write much. The insight that everyone brings over there certainly keeps me entertained with my personal reading and that quenches my thirst just fine. If you’re jealous of certain writers that fine, but don’t bash your brothers in Red and Gold over at AP without cause. Geeeeesh.
Oh well man. Peace.
Go Chiefs!
I hates me some donkeys...
I haven't had any trouble making friends and influencing people...
then again, I'm a Dr/Lawyer...
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I went over there... lets just say... it's putrid. AP sucks, I expected more form Joel Thorman, and the other Thorman.
As soon as you go over there they attack you. We don’t even do that shit here they are only big talkers behind the internet. I went over there, stated my opinion and complemented the current Chiefs team and they thought I was sarcastic and they made the assumption that I had a learning disability… lmao. And previously I had some of my comments deleted out of nowhere.
The RaiderLaker
Of course not all are like that, but most AP commenters are very defensive and talk big.
The RaiderLaker
Based on how you were talking
One could easily say you were talking pretty big about your team, too.
Or did someone take it too far and start insulting you personally? Because generally there’s more than a few on there that set people straight when that happens.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
It works both ways
I have came here before to have a good “debate”. I really didn’t start anything or call names and I got attacked.
Jamaal Charles...Enough said.
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Well that's unfortunate
I know that if comments get flagged it gets automatically deleted, as well as the comments in that particular “reply thread”.
Sorry you had a bad experience. But I’ll shoot straight with you, I saw that comment you made and it DID look like you were being sarcastic.
One guy making the disability comment does not represent the whole of AP. And if you’re gonna go over there and talk about why you’re going to beat us, of course a bunch of people are going to debate you. It happens.
And I saw many people reply quite respectfully to you. So let’s no exaggerate how bad that experience was :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
When I showed up here I got a attacked by a few
I just brushed em off and went about talking to the ones who were level headed and now I get along over here all right.
I am jealous of ZERO
I don’t care about who writes what? That was an assumption my friend. I was treated very poorly by a few over there and Chris to be more specific. I believed since we all had the same passion for the Chiefs and it is a Chiefs site we could get along. I cussed no one out was rude to anyone or did anything hostile and was banned for life w/ no E-mail reply or reason why. Do I hold a grudge sure because I think there asshats. I like tons of people over there and respect the articles and opinions of other fans.
Your an OK guy from over there
There are a few I find class acts and others which………..ya
Good lord
Save your incest for you own family reunions!
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 1, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, if your sisters aren't good enough for you we don't want them
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have been part of and witnessed first hand..
A new guy comes in and is excited to participate and writes a little fanpost that’s too short or repetitive and he get’s slammed w/ this is a fanshot and some jerk comment. I got banned for nothing asked Joely olly and he said he didn’t know why. Hell I don’t know why? I was respectful to them and everyone for that matter.It’s just so touchy over there like your in school w/ hawk moderators. Anyway back to Raiders vs Chiefs!!!!!
AP Kicks ass
Go Chiefs!! Plus I wish I could put up a insightful post like Kalo or Beswaf. Plus the Dr./Lawer guys kicks ass ;)
I don't think the Chiefs stand a chacne and here's why
One of the Raiders’ goals this year is to win their home field, so far so good with only one loss to the Texans.
Another goal is to win their division, 2-0 so far.
And the way they’ve been playing with their guys out thus far this season, Schilens, Murphy, Gradkowski, McFadden, Gallery, Bush, have all been hurt on the offense.
It’s a good week for Nnamdi to be out too with Kansas City not having all that great of a passing game.
I say Raiders win 31-24. Chiefs will put up a fight, but too little too late.
I am here to inspire and light fires~~~Where there is smoke in the ears, there is me on the mind~~~
So because it's your goal to win...
We’ll lose? All righty then. What if it’s our goal to win too? :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
No worries
Our other goal was to stop other teams from completing their goals.
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 1, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
Haha I have to rec that
Funny stuff…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Oh, man. That made my day. Haha.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
I know had to rec it
even though I don’t like it
I don't see it that way
I think we will control the ball knowing we need to win the TOP. Also we usually always win the turnover ratio battle. We run hard protect and control the ball. If we can keep the Raiders out of sync we should be able to get the W. Teams who win turnover and TOP stats usually get a W. We will not inflict self inflicted wounds and so the Raiders will have to fight for every point. I see it down to the wire with the Chiefs making the one big play to get the W. I know these two teams are nothing like last year or years before, but we do well in the black hole for some reason?
ur right
perhaps the Raiders will have to wait and win in KC in week 17, when it is for all the marbles and it really matters. I can’t wait to see what happens Sunday. Why is it only Monday? This week is moving far too slowly
I am here to inspire and light fires~~~Where there is smoke in the ears, there is me on the mind~~~
by B.A.Armstrong on Nov 1, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed lol either way
When the Raiders and Chiefs play it’s always crazy. Half my family is Raiders fans so I get to hear alot of shit when we lose lol. Maybe that’s why I get along over here better then most Chiefs fans? I’m around tons of Raiders fans daily lol.
Dont feel bad kansas city, im surrounded by Saints fan!
I remember moving to Mississippi in 99’..i actually forgot there was a team in N.O.! I thought what little fans that showed up for the games were CG generated by the owner, and now all of a sudden its “Who Dat”. Pathetic!!! 40+ fucking years the Saints been in the NfL and just last year the world found out there was such a thing as the Who Dat Nation! Dammit..the fucking Brown have a more known fan base than the Saints. Sorry my bad, i just nutted up all over this post about them fucking sorry ass Saints..anyway..Oak vs KC should be one for the ages. I believe this game will be the deciding factor later on this year if KC faulters alil and we win the games we shouldnt.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
lol it's all good
It does bother me too. The Saints went from 2 fans to an entire nation overnight lol. The one thing is right after Katrina they started playing better and it was a feel good story. Funny note I was playing madden and was facing the Bengals and they scored and the announcer said"Who Dat" and then it showed a close up of a Saints fan? I was the Chiefs by the way. Needless to say I was confused?
Lol dude i like KC more than the Saints and i hate KC.
Aye KC..are you alil worried about our pass rush, or do you think your O line can hold up long enough for Cassell to hit his recievers?
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
Our O-Line is much improved compared to last year.
Ryan Lilja might be out again (broken thumb), but (rookie) Jon Asamoah played a good game this past week. You will still bring pressure, but not as much as last year.
I hates me some donkeys...
Well honestly...
We don’t throw alot under 45% percent of the time. We also have as of last week and maybe still the No.1 o-line. I am worried because Cassel has had a tendency of holding the ball to long. Seems recently though he doesn’t hold it long enough lol Yeah I mean to an extent I am I guess. I don’t see the pass rush being a huge factor but I do think you’ll get a couple sacks.
Just wanted to say that last week we heard from Seahawk fans how there run D was top 5 in the league!!!!
by all means KansasCity im not doubting your teams Oline, im just saying that sometimes having a top this or that can be decieving, sorta like how last year we had a top 10 pass defense at one time but only cuz we were getting raped on the ground so bad that teams didnt have to thrown to get yardage. By the way, other than the normal BSPN power ranking, how do you figure your team to have the #1 oline? Do you just factor sacks giving up? How bout hurries? im only asking!
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
We have Run DMC and Jamaal Charles (and Thomas Jones too)
We don’t need no stinking blockers. They were drafted because they don’t need a line to run behind.
With that said, our wide receivers and tight ends are killing teams with they’re blocking skills. A beefed up O-Line from last years lousiness and things are going to be much more difficult for your D come Sunday.
Like someone else said, it’s definitely going to be won in the trenches. May the best team Chiefs win.
I hates me some donkeys...
Dexter Mcluster is not run DMC.
Darren McFadden is run DMC. Get it right
"It takes no talent to give great effort." - Chris Petersen
by pfeifer on Nov 2, 2010 12:11 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I know...I agree
I hate people saying DMC. I much prefer you have been Mcclusterfucked.
Generally people say that
Based on the fact that we’re rushing for 190 YPG and have given up the second fewest sacks.
It’s not a statement I agree with (our line being the best in the league), but our line is vastly improved.
Yeah, we had HOU fans and SF fans telling us we’d never be able to run on them. Same with JAC fans. So I know what you mean about rankings and whatnot. We’re all a buncha homers :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
No. None of us are foolish enough to claim you can't or won't run on us.
It just depends on how willing our D-Line is to aim for the knees of your Runningbacks to win. I’d say a few game’s suspension is worth taking Charles out for the season. Wouldn’t you?
If you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’. 8-D
by Raider Zealot on Nov 2, 2010 2:26 AM PDT up reply actions
No man it's all good
I’m going off of sacks pressures and total rushing yards. I mean you can say were 2 or 3 but the point is were playing better up front. The one thing I know is we will be able to run the ball. We have faced good rushing D’s and still shredded them it’s what we do. If you take away our run(which I think is impossible) it could get ugly fast. If we have under 100 rushing yards it could be 33-3 raiders. We will rush for over a hundred and most likely over 200. Last week Charles had 240’ish yards all by himself.(counting receiving) I guess I’m saying if I had to pick which aspect of the game I’m most confident in it’s we can run the ball and will regardless.
Were no.1 in sacks and rushing yards
That’s two good indicators of a good O-line. You seem like a cool guy so what about the Raiders? Do you think those two games are building a false hope of what could be or do you feel you guys have really turned that corner? Who do you think the QB who gives you the best chance to win? Also have you seen this Monday Night game? The colts are killing Schaub lol
U havent face not one good rushing defense yet.
Chargers & Houston rush defense are a joke and that fact that they have a pour secondary teams abandon the run to exploit their secondary. The Chiefs & Raiders did the same thing ran all over both these teams. The Raiders will be the your first team that is balance with the only weakness on our defense is the Offense.
On defense just like the Seachickens u guys havent been tested due to your pour secondary (23rd against the Pass) other then Houston who ran and passed succesfully. Other than the Colts(Chiefs) we faced the the Chargers and Houston just like youdid and we are ranked 5th against the pass.
We are ranked 26th against the run (CJ, A.F., F.G) and thats a result of our offensive woes. When are offensive is able to put up points we have no mental breakdowns on defense. And ur passing game does not scare us. If we get our offense to be cosistant like it has the last two games, you guys will be lucky to even get 100yds rushing.
by 818Rai8derGuy on Nov 1, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Prior to playing us
HOU had a top 5 rushing D. So did SF. And SD has the #2 rated rushing D in the nation.
So you’re kind of wrong. Just a little bit. But hey, I’m wrong a lot too…
Lucky to get even 100 yards rushing? I remember when the guys from SF and HOU said that. Then the guys from JAC said we’d MAYBE get 125 yards on the ground. It’s all good, maybe your D is finally that D that will hold us! Should be fun to find out.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Other side note:
N.Rackers just hit a very long FG and I’m going to lose my fantasy week by a damn point I already see it.
I am not worried about the pass rush that much at all, when we do throw it is quick throws.
thats why we have allowed only 3 sacks all year
I think this game will be close, but the Chiefs will win. Mainly because of coaching, I think the Chiefs coaches have mastered Chess and the Raiders coaches are still playing checkers. I would be prepared to see your staff out maneverued a couple of times this week
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Sometimes are smart coaching
out coaches themselves. Throwing the ball on 4th and 1 when you lead in rushing and have a RB w/ a 6ypc average is genius I must say? I give these coaches credit for the turn around but there not untouchable and sometimes do strange things.
but do you really think Tom Cable and Co. and outwit our staff
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by teabaggingexper on Nov 1, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
No they can't
but there players could pour their hearts out and good plays being called must be executed. I agree with players win games not coaches.
let me fix that for you, Players win games when good coaching prepares and puts them in good positions
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by teabaggingexper on Nov 1, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree a little
Coaching DOES matter, but you can come out w/ a great gameplan and a awesome strategy and still just get pounded into oblivion.
that depends???, would you wager Indy is outcoaching Houston, or could it be that Shaub is looking like a deer in headlights?
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Nov 1, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Fa sho, Cornell (sp?) and Weis are always nice to have on your staff, but the game is played on the field my friend.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Nov 1, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
this is true, but you still must gameplan and adjust. remember this conversation during the game and look for the setup
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by teabaggingexper on Nov 1, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
We could out coach them and still lose
that’s what worries me. I know we won’t be out coached but out played? If we play the Raiders like we did Buffalo look for a loss. We must take this game seriously and play mistake free football.
Keep in mind who we are
this sunday we will be the most prepared and focused team on the field. Never doubt that
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by teabaggingexper on Nov 1, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree Buffalo????
We weren’t ready for the task at hand and made some bad coaching calls. That TO when we got it on 4th and 1 or the 4th down we missed and didn’t try the FG? I like the coaching staff and their balls of steel, but sometimes were not ready as I think we could be.
you keep saying it was a bad coaching call, then you really dont understand what going for it there means.
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by teabaggingexper on Nov 1, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
The reward outweighed risk
…or so they thought. I get trying to get TD’s against the colts or texans, but we should have attempted the 3 against Buffalo. I can’t say he would have made it, but I know we didn’t get it going for it.
We had a how many point lead against houston?
Just to go into prevent ad lose the lead and then throw it on 3rd and 1and then have to punt them the ball with no clock stoppage. That lead to a loss.
and a bad PI call on flowers helped
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by teabaggingexper on Nov 1, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
can't blame the refs
don’t leave it in their hands they will screw you.
we didnt leave anything in their hands, they made the call on thier own
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by teabaggingexper on Nov 1, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
lol Yeah what I'm saying is..
ok follow me here: 3rd and 1and we rush better then anyone in the league and even if you don’t get it the clock runs. Instead we pass Cassel overthrows and the clock stops we punt and they score with 24 second? We could have run off that much time after we ran lol. If you don’t agree that was a bad call then you have beer goggles on for the coaching staff.
all im saying is..all the top notch coaching in the world dont mean shit if it isnt executed properly on the field.
if i were to predict a winner on sunday of course it would be the Raiders, not because we outcoached KC but because we outplayed KC.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Nov 1, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Well they way i see it, you guys rightfully so have capitilized off others mistakes. I dont see us making those mistakes because of coaching
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by teabaggingexper on Nov 1, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
i agree to disagree with that
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Nov 1, 2010 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
come on now, block punts, pick 6, fumbles. you cant possibly think that doesnt have some luck involved
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by teabaggingexper on Nov 1, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
ok..ok lets start with the block punt..
Have you seen SD special teams??? Tom Cable saw a chink in that armor and planned for it. Twice we got the block punt..how can you say that was luck.
Pick 6… coverage maybe.
Fumbles…well if yoiu hold onto the ball that wont happen
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Nov 1, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
well.....
we have great ST
we have only 3 int all year and only 2 fumbles
I just dont think you can beat us without being given some of those oppurtunities
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by teabaggingexper on Nov 1, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I saw the two blocked kicks
and they were NOT coaching. It was players making plays.
contrary to popular belief the Raiders coaches are not Neandertals
like your team, we watch film.
Like your team we come up with a plan also.
dont hang your hat on thinking because you feel like you have a superior coaching staff means the win is automatic
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Nov 1, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think your taking them for granted
I think the Chiefs win also, but with the last game we played and the last game, they played and looked better. We will need our A game to win this divisional battle. If we show up like the team who played the Bills we could very well lose. If we show up with the team who played the 49ers then I see a W for sure.
wow I'm sure you get the point
but my typing was atrocious there lol
With that being said
CJ’s pick 6 was good coverage. How many picks have you guys had? Were those luck that you guys capitalized on? The fumbles was a product of hitting the ball out. When you punch the ball out, that’s not luck my friend. Our D stopped the Seahawks from scoring TDs, and we had +500 yards with only one play i can see as being lucky (Bush in the right place at the right time) but we put up points with our running game and passing. A couple of fans have told us we wont beat them because they wont turn over the ball or their stats are in their favor. But eventually you have to realize that anything can happen. You may think you’re not going to turn over the ball, but shit happens. Should be a good game. I’m looking forward to it.
they have been there
It will be a good game and flowers can ball hawk w/ the best in the league and Derrick Johnson had an impressive pick. Also think stats mean nada in this one. It’s going to be a dog fight like I said 3,245 times before.
Uhm Buffalo anyone????
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Nov 1, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Buffalo still didnt score much and was forced to play our game. we racked up the yards but just didnt finish drives dont be fooled by that game
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by teabaggingexper on Nov 1, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
and dont be confident because of it!!
That game was not yours to win my friend. If there was ever a team that can find a way to lose a ball game that would be the Bills
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Nov 1, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
that was our game to win, they had to come back to tie
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by teabaggingexper on Nov 1, 2010 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
and not only came back but put themselves in a position to win if not for the missed fieldgoal. So again i ask...
was it coaching thst won you that game or was it the Bills blundering
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
by Kobe Won Kenobi on Nov 1, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I say coaching for one reason
The TO before the kick he made then he missed giving us another chance. Even though if Haley would have kicked the FG earlier OT might not even been an option. The last part is speculation though.
I had Succop
but had to cut him because Haley is the FG anti-christ
Nah i dont see false hope, i see a team not quitting like the last 6 yrs.
The wins were nice no doubt, but i want to see more. Our defense is all about bring the house and allowing the corners to play up close and disrupt the rythm of the routes. We’re finally figuring out that just cuz we have a lead doesnt mean we let up.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
Cool
I to know what’s it like to finally see your team turn the corner
matt shaub is getting killed.
I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!
That he is..
and Rackers is bustin my balls
Yea man, im pissed cuz we gave Arizona a win, and literally snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in San Fran
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The coaches cost us SF and probably Ariz too. No matter how hard players play, poor sets
tactics and game strategy can undermine a good team. But, they learned, albeit the hard way and we’re seeing the results of Oakland’s vast talent starting to be optimized.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
here's my view
Bring back Madden and your 13-3 or 12-4. You have talent galore and sometimes dismal coaching. We had talent and no coaching and got some coaches and have already won more games then last year.
We got talent and coaching and the last two games have shown that.
What we lacked was poor execution on offense and defense. Our defense has leaned how to execute the blitzes successfully, and our offense is beginning to play as a team. The only only the Raiders have to avoid that just doesnt work in which is the reason we have given up so many passing TD is when we play the conservative zone defense in the redzone. This confuses more our players than it does the offense on on that mike williams dropped ball in the redzone Routt was confuse on where to be.
by 818Rai8derGuy on Nov 1, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont believe the coaches cost us AZ and SF.
I say it was more on player execution than coaching. AZ game to many P.I of defense, and missed opportunites in the redzone (Delay of game on Bruce). SF awful play by Campbell and missed opportunities led to mentak breakdown of the defense.
by 818Rai8derGuy on Nov 1, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
We led at halftime w/o an offense and gave up the 5 man press on Smith who then proceeded
to pick us apart. On offense we ran an unimaginative set of plays ad nauseum. I don’t want to go through it again here (or anywhere) because it still pisses me off. But, because the following week and yesterday these same coaches demonstrated that they learned from their heinous crimes – I have forgiven them … unless they regress and then they shall be cast out with the damned.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions
imagine how things would be sitting on a 6-2 record
thats how i predicted it before season started
Success is not measuredby what you accomplish, but by the opposition you have encountered, and the courage with which you have maintained the struggle against overwhelming odds...
-Orison Swett Marden
Jez man..Matt Shaub looks so scared
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This is the Chiefs first real test.
Dont be fooled by stats, stats can be deceiving. Although we are ranked 26th against the run this is a result of our offensive woes(a result of one play given to Johnson, Foster, and Gore). Our seconday is ranked 5th facing 3 of the top passing teams. (StD, Houston, Denver).
Ur team ranked 23rd against the pass and have faced three top passing teams(StD, Houston, Colts). Ranked 7th in rushing but have only faced one Rushing team A. Foster.
If we get consistancy on offense again i see our passing game open up the run for us as it did against Seattle (2nd ranked rush defense), but I dont see your passing game doing that for your guys. You will be lucky to get 100yds rushing rushing.
Yes I Do.
The way our team has been clicking on offense and defense. U have no passing threat on on offense even though u guys have a great rushing offense, in which should open up the passing game youre still ranked 32nd in passing. I see us stacking the line forcing Cassel to air it out. Dont rule out Nnamdi out yet if he playes expect zero cathces from Bowe.
by 818Rai8derGuy on Nov 1, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I KNOW
The Chiefs will put up 100 more likely towards the 200 mark.
We shall see...
anything’s possible, but let’s say we jump on you the same way we jumped on SD and Denver and we’re up 2-3 TDs in the first quarter…do you stick with the run or start wingin the ball all over the yard?
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Nov 5, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Chiefs run the ball on 3rd and 20
& still get the first down
KC is not built to come from behind, they are built to keep the score low, and wait for you to make mistakes.
umm
Ranked 7th in rushing but have only faced one Rushing team A. Foster.
Frank Gore and MJD are still pretty good runners, and they got shut down…
Same thing 2nd in rush defense Seahawaks said before they face us
Gore is good RB this a Good Rb blah blah blah and looked what happend. This is not the same team that started the season ur in for a big battle
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
Gore
has two rookies on his OL and a shitty QB…the gameplan for SF is to stack the box to stop Gore and let Alex Smif prove he can beat you.
MJD had a similar situation because Garrard was hurt and they were starting some guy fresh off the street at QB.
Crennel is one helluva DC, he’ll try the same thing against us this week and dare us to beat you with Campbell throwing. To compensate, I’ll guarantee you see at least three end arounds, and some pistol read option looks…I say we go deep early, too. One thing we have at WR is speed. DHB and Jacoby Ford are two of the fastest players in the NFL, you come out stacking the box, and I can see these guys getting open…it’s just a matter of them catching it…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Nov 5, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
...... I'm sorry... I'm still stuck on the 'this is the first real test the Chiefs will have' statement.
I mean I know we all love our teams… But give Houston and Indy a little credit. I mean, Indy DID win a SB recently, afterall. Unless ofcourse, your saying that your Raiders are a better team than Indy?
Houston & Indy are team are not buit to stop the runs
Indy was exposed on this, and Houston has been exposed on it to. To say that you ran great on two great rushing defense when team chose to pass on this rather run is an understatement. No comment on the were better than Indy yet U guys had ur chance and couldnt capitalize on it, we will get our chance as well.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
I did not understand a word you just typed.
Indy has Peyton Manning. Our defense rattled him all game long. He didn’t throw a single TD against us.
Houston’s run defense was ranked fifth against the run when we played them. Incidentally, they couldn’t stop us either. No team has been able to even slow our running game, really. So..good luck with that Sunday.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
Indy is one dimensional team
Houston we ran successfully against them to. Houston 5th rank defense at the time was ranked 1st when they played us and moved to 5th. Teams just avoided to run against them cause of their pour secondary coverage. This is a rivalry so all stats, and ranks our out it comes down to who wants it more.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
by 818Raiderguy on Nov 2, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Just checked the stats
Jamal Charles is third in ypc rushing at 6.5 yard an attempt. Mike Vick and Josh freeman are above him lol
He has 100 less yads
than AP but 60 less carries
Chiefs and Raiders match up from a Raiders fan point of view...
Chief’s two headed monster, Charles and Jones are a deadly combination. Charles might be the 2nd most dangerous RB (C. Johnson) RB that we’ll have to face this year. He runs like a water bug with lightning speed. Only CJ looks faster. If he gets a seam or a corner, he’s gone. Cast off Thomas Jones is one heck of a RB that no one believes in. 30+ RB breaks the mold of being over the hill. LT is making a statement this year, but do not over look Jones. A lot of mileage on these tires but he is still making defenses look silly when he is in the ball game. Since both RBs run equally well, a lot of credit goes into the Chief’s offensive line. They’re getting the job done. It will be a big match up vs. Oakland’s D-line. Oakland’s rush defense has really improved the last two games, playing their gaps, swarming to the ball and they’ll need to really step it up vs. the Chiefs if they want a victory.
Cassel as a QB has improved, but he is still inconsistent. This is where they must blitz and rattle Cassel. I think if Cassel is given time, he can pick the Raiders apart. With Nnamdi out, it’s vital for the Raiders to blitz and be successful in getting to Cassel to mess up his timing. M. Mitchell can neutralize KC rookie TE and double coverage must be placed on Bowe. McClain and the Raiders LBs must cover the RB out of the back field. Cassel loves to throw to his RB and with their quickness they it’s just as good as a long hand off.
Raiders offense needs to continue to rely heavily on McFadden and Bush. Offensive line still making unnecessary false start penalties this late in the season, but they’re definitely a top 5 rushing team. With all of the injuries to the QB and WR position, I’m not sure how the passing game is holding up at times. Campbell who can look like J. Russell in a few earlier games, looks like he’s getting more comfortable and more confidence each and every game. Cable says Gradowski is the starter, but if Campbell pulls out another strong showing and win, it’s hard to pull him out as a starter. If Campbell plays confidently and within the game plan, he will be successful. Mainly throwing to the TE and RBs. It seems when the defense over loads on the RBs, Campbell has capitalized with big plays to his WRs. Credit Oakland’s new scheme and offensive coordinator with an excellent game plan. The offense is no longer predictable.
Only 35k fans when Seattle came into town. That’s pretty sad. No home field advantage there. I’m really hoping the die hard Raiders fan from southern Cal, mid-west, east coast, and pacific north west all show up for this huge game. This is a signature game and could be a deciding factor for the AFC West crown. Year in and year out, I’ve always stated the Raiders must win the AFC West. That should be the first goal each and every year. (Everyone wants to win the SB each year, but that’s not going to happen.) Winning your division will get you into the dance.
Maybe...
but I doubt it. Regardless of who wins, we’re not a team that’s built to fold. Too strong of a running game, too good on defense (well, maybe GOOD is a stretch, but decent).
I think if we bounced back after back to back losses on the road, we ought to be able to bounce back if we lose to you guys.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Predictions...
KC > 220 rushing and Oak < 120 rushing yards…
Cassel throws for 200 yards with 2 TDs 0 Ints…
KC wins the turnover battle…
KC gets 1 Special Teams TD…
KC 31
Oak 17
Hey...How'd everyone get in my room?
Nnamdi looks to be a no-go
You guys better take advantage.
by golfswithglock on Nov 2, 2010 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Well it looked like Cassel had gotten better this season
Especially against Houston and Jax, but yesterday he looked kind of confused out there. Is he getting better or no?
That last drive Cassel was clutch.
And it was pretty darn windy. I was scared having him throw back there.
I eat nails for breakfast, tacks for snacks, and I sh*t nickel.
by SupremeChief on Nov 2, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Here we go....
Chiefs might stumble but they won’t fall/
Raiders can’t score w/o the ball/
Clock control and pound the rock/
I can’t wait til you see our cox/
We’ve been to the black hole times before/
We’ll pound it so hard the holes a door/
Then we’ll walk in and take the win/
and the Raiders asses will never mend/
As Oakland sits there much in shock/
It’s clear who has the bigger cox/
That is my poetic contribution for the day lol
I would love to answer your question, but it would result in yhis thread being hi-jacked
into another Cassel debate. And I’ve had it with those. What I will say is take a look @ the passing defensive ranking of the teams he’s done ‘well’ against and ask yourself if maybe he should have done better.
this will be an interesting game to say the least...
anyone would like to make a friendly wager?
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
raiders are favorites -3 and o/u is 40...
the raiders plus the over!
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Should be
a good game. Been looking forward to this one for awhile. Okay, that’s a lie. Been looking forward to this one since we beat Denver.
It will be a hell of a game
I think I’m going to take back my prediction this week and just see what happens. It’s a coin flip and usually is when it’s Chiefs vs Raiders.
Main thing is
Both of our games last year were crap. This year it will be worth watching. The AFC West has indeed been turned upside down this year.
agreed and I love it
I just felt before the season stared it could be like this.
outside of charlie wies and charles goin off
whats so different? matt cassel is still matt cassel? the chiefs were 1-7 when they played here in oakland… what makes them so different? another year in the system? that is an overrated virtue because JaMcrib was the opposite!!! i understand the chiefs are 1 in rushing and top 5 in defense in total yard and rushing so that right there is enough to make anyone worry… but come sunday, i believe the chiefs are still the chiefs. and the raiders will exploit that.
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Chiefs are just the Chiefs......
5-2 Leading the AFC West Chiefs! Should be a great game, I’m pumped.
The Chiefs are the Chiefs
and we always win in Oakland as of years past. So if your arguing the Chiefs are the Chiefs then good this should be a W right? All joke aside it will be a good game and hopefully we can play good enough football to win
Well...
Crennel has had a big impact on our defense. He’s finally getting DJ to play the way he was supposed to when we drafted him.
Also, Dorsey has taken another giant step forward and is playing very, very well. Shaun Smith has been excellent as well (an odd surprise, but a welcome one).
Berry has been great against the run, and Flowers has taken that next step to shutdown CB level.
So there’s basically been a lot of in house improvement+a fantastic draft class. Add that to Jones playing well, Shaun Smith really helping our D-line, and Lilja+Weigmann being about 10x better than what we had at C and RG last year and that’s why we’re better in a nutshell.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
chiefs are not the best NFL team in MO!!!
STL baby
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
saying STL is better
is a smack in the face and a kick in the balls.
Chiefs will win this game
too many injuries on your side
that's why shit starts no offense
Say"I think the Chiefs can win" instead of “Chiefs will win” and it’s 75% less cocky, but has the same message.
Well, yeah, When we meet again in week 16 we should have Miller, Murphy, Nnamdi, Chaz,
and our NT/DT John Henderson. Now I will tell you that if we have them playing by then, we will win. I guarantee a win, as you will not sweep us.
I really believe our backups and rookies will step up this Sunday!! Hopefully we win.
The RaiderLaker
thats probably why wouldnt be competitive
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
GRAY HAIRS FOR ALL!!!!!
Ive been around a while, and my first team was the RAIDERS, and when I take my last breathe it will be the RAIDERS….but has anyone noticed that especially in the AFC West, and especially with Oakland, that we can lose to the NFL cheerleaders, but give us the Super Bowl champs and its a hell of a game and usually an upset?!? I am scheduling my 3rd haircut/dye in 45 days! hahahahahahahahaha In all seriousness though, this will be a great game. I just hope what I have seen the last couple of weeks is real….. if it is, god help the chiefs, and god help the rest of the NFL!!!!!!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"...He who fights with monsters should take care that he himself deas not become a monster.....for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss also gazes into you....." -Nietzsche
this is
going to be a great game. I believe when it comes down to it , it will be our run defense (better than people say it is) vs your run offense(underestimated in my opinion) and our run offense(you’ve heard the stories) vs your run defense(very impressive). You guys have one of the best RB combos in football right now (since i’m a raider fan, i say you fall short to McFadden and Bush, many would probably agree anyway). Since our star corner is out i think you guys might be throwing the ball a lot as well. However in that situation we believe our D-line can come up BIG. as a defensive unit we are tied for third in sacks with 24 however you guys are fourth in points allowed (me thinks this will be a low scoring game). we are also fourth in Defensive TDs with 3 and are tied for sixth in fumble recoveries with 8. All in all, it is probably going to be a defensive game all the way.
my final score.
14-10 Oakland
1 rush TD for Jamaal Charles (probably a 20+ run) and a FG (by none other than your hero Ryan Succop)
1 Rush TD by McFadden (probably inside the 5) and either a pick 6 by Michael Huff or a pass TD (i cant say who because i still don’t know who are QB is this week but im going to say Campbell to McFadden ).I look forward to this game, it’s going to be great
Wait one second....
We fall short of McFadden and Bush?
McFadden: 5.5 YPC Charles: 6.5 YPC
Bush: 3.8 YPC Jones: 4.6 YPC
Chiefs rushing rank: 1st
Raiders rushing rank: 2nd
Nice try.
K, now prove to us that you can stop it. We turned the 2nd best run D into the 10th best last week.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
You barely beat the Bills…
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
Janikowski is the reason.
We should have won that game if he made the field goal at the end.
Bills missed a field goal too in OT didnt they?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
You actually lost to the Niners...
What’s your point? We’ve both had some rough games against bad teams.
The difference is we still won ours.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
The difference is: We radically changed our offensive and defensive game plans
after losing to the niners – night and day.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 6, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
No, you need to prove you can stop it...
A. Foster (HOU) – 17 CAR, 133 YDS, 1 TD vs Oakland
F. Gore (SF) – 25 CAR, 149 YDS vs Oakland
A. Foster (HOU) – 18CAR, 71YDS, 2TD’S vs KC
F. Gore (SF) – 15 CAR, 43 YDS vs KC
by Royals Time on Nov 3, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Before Last week, miami and new england were tied in rushing defense.
AP had over 120(or 140?) yards against Miami.
Only 90 yards against the pats.
Just because foster and gore killed us, and didn’t kill you, doesn’t mean you’ll be running all over us(like just because AP ran all over miami, doesn’t mean he’ll do it against the pats).
We’ll see what happens.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Pretty sre we will be able to run very well
other than that who knows?
the vikings fans were sure too. They called me crazy when I said we can keep AP under 100(because we did this to Ray Rice).
Just saying you never know.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
You may keep Charles under 100
But Charles 95 + Jones 85 = 180
But that would be a very bad day for the Chiefs
Although I was probably ONLY mentioning charles(I don't feel like going back to my earlier posts)
But I;m saying that we might be able to keep you guys under 110. Will it happen? Stats say absolutely not, but I don’t know.
If it were to happen, I’d say charles get 65 yards on around 15 attempts, and jones 45 yards on around 10 attempts. That display a good average for your RBs just to note.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Not for Charles
But anything can happen…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
we'll see what happens.
These two teams always play each other very well. Most of the seasons the games end up as splits. Lets see what happens ons sunday.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Sounds like a plan
BTW, I appreciate the civility and class you’ve shown here.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I can't smack talk for the life of me! lol
Plus, I have been taught to be civil, and respect other fans. I acknowledge that I may not know as much as other teams fans as well. I am here to learn about them and their team(mostly the team) and it’s players. Talk about matchups, etc.(although, on the browns site, because we had an Ask pats Pulpit there, we ended up having a long discussion of movies over there. lol)
Smack talking is beneath me really. I’m glad I have also talked to civil chiefs fans as well, including yourself.
But this is a rivalry, and I expected plenty of smack talk, and “verbal” communications. And I think it is very entertaining, and adds to a great rivalry that we have here.
Good luck on sunday, and may we keep the Chargers at the bottom of the West! And the Raiders at the top(of course)! :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
What you said! Only about the Chiefs :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
i didnt know you guys had an asamoah? is pronounced the same?
First DMC now Nam??? man this will be fun to watch… hopefully we win convincingly.
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
A real question
Why have the Chiefs struggled in the redzone on D this year?
Also, how has G Dorsey been? On paper the Chiefs D would look to be a little soft on the line and especially in the middle.
I promise; I will never die.
The middle isn't soft!
Those numbers are in the wrong context as a result of QB scrambles from Ryan Fritz last week…
Could someone actually answer the questions instead of getting defensive?
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Not Defensive...
Your question is structured with the assumption that there are “major issues” in KC’s interior line. Though I will admit that is not our strongest feature, our D Line has not allowed a 100 yard rusher all season. Dorsey has came into his own this season anchoring the right side of the line commanding double teams as well as bring noticeable pressure to oppossing QB’s. Do you consider a 17.5 points against on defense a struggle???? Most of the TD’s scored against KC were etheir on Bombs early in the game or rushes late in the 4th. I would assume fatigue to be the cause of the latter.
Most of the TD’s scored against KC were etheir on Bombs early in the game or rushes late in the 4th. I would assume fatigue to be the cause of the latter.
so, we should throw deep, and run the ball to get your defense tired faster. Gotcha. :)
Because apparently the chiefs are susceptible to the long bombs early, and the run late. works for me. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
He can't choose, this is our "different one" our beloeved patriotguy
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 3, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions
lol
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I'm just special. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Given how he has played in the last two games
I wouldn’t mind doing #1. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
There were no assumptions.
The Redzone D is way behind the total D. The Chiefs are 29th in the league in giving up TDs when the opposition is in the redzone.
As for the suggestion of softness, it was a question. As I said, the stats seem to suggest that, but I don’t know. That’s why I was asking.
The fact that you saw these questions and saw assumptions and then only addressed one question was where the defensive part came from.
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
They are starting to panic ... oozing fear
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 4, 2010 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I will
The middle is softer but not soft. We have improved up front. The redzone…..good question play calling maybe? Execution probably? The weakness of this team as of today is pass coverage(not flowers) and passing the ball.
This is better, thank you.
I was surprised at the redzone numbers and also the d’s run stuffed number. Your run D seems to get better as it goes back, which usually suggests better LB play then line play. Also, the numbers on the power plays 3rd, 4th down and goaline rushing situations are below average for the Chiefs. So, I was wondering if this was due to the D-line as well?
I can tell you, that it would benefit the Chiefs to take shots with the passing game when they get to the 30 in. The Raiders like to go to a zone in these situations and they have complete lapses at times, which lead to laughably easy passing TDs.
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 3, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Those numbers are surprising
Part of it is that the Chiefs have had pretty big leads in games, and teams have needed 7 instead of 3 to try to get back into the game, San Diego, Houston, San Francisco.
But part of it is that the Chiefs defense gets tired when going up against dink and dunk offenses, Buffalo, Cleveland….
That’s my best guess because it’s a pretty shocking number, even after watching all the games.
Yeah
The LB play has been pretty good(Hali) and (DJ) are by far the best combine that w/ Berry and D-line and we have good results stopping the run. Other than Hali the pass rush lacks therefore giving the QB to much time to find an open receiver. Flowers is amazing this year and Carr is ok but he gets picked on. Matt Cassel has played better the last couple of weeks but he worries me. He is not asked to do much so that makes me a little more comfortable. Thus far nobody has came close to stopping the run and I fear if someone does we will fall apart. Although I must say it will take a monster performance to stop these backs.The Defense in general had been from downright amazing a couple games(bills-49ers-colts) to decent(jags-chargers)to crazy breakdown mode(Texans). We have struggled on the road but have played Colts and Texans so who wouldn’t lol. This will be a great test for our team. The first game I feel we will be tested but can get a win. The Texans and colts game was ours but prior I didn’t see us really competing. This will be a marker for both are teams. If you win by a few your a decent team if you blow us out you are a serious threat. If we win were a decent team if we blow you out were a serious threat.
Oh great
Thanks Ram, you just got 300 people mad at me…
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
I can't believe you guys have a script to prepare for the inflatration of another team's blog!
Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.
by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
That's actually
A continuation of a series I did a long time ago called “Arguing with Idiots”, and one that is intended for kicks and to throw some stats out there.
I changed the title because I didn’t want to offend those of you guys who came over for some friendly debate.
Sorry if that looks bad… I did it for fun.
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
No appologies...this is Chiefs-Raiders!
I called your QB a douche on the front page. Also “Arguing with Idiots” as a guide or script is essentially “Arguing for Idiots.” Like a football for dummies book. Title it however you like, the reflection is not aimed towards the opposition.
Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.
by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
"Oh Shucks fellas, now it's from the fryin pan into the fire ... Gosh darn ... Katie bar the door"
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 4, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
How did you know how that went down?
Change it to “Jas” (my wife’s actual name) and you’re spot on :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Don't try to be nice; I have a heart of darkness that can only be purified with your team's pain
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 4, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What if someone dumps a box of puppies on you instead?
I guess I’m too happy to have that kind of “darkness” (although if you like it, more power to you).
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
Let me quote former Chief Raider, Gunther Cunningham once again
It’s a dark game. I characterize it as a lot of darkness
Oh and to answer your question, Sons eats puppies and shits Gargoyles.
Sticks and stones may break some bones, but words cause permanent damage.
by Rich Langford on Nov 4, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Werewolves would've been better :)
I love my wife, my kids, and the Chiefs. In that order. Except on game days.
posted this on another one of your forums
but thought I’d post it again, here’s to a good game Sunday, one that will be in classic Chiefs/Raiders fashion.
coming from a chiefs fan I think this is going to be one hell of a game. Like always it will be close and decided by a field goal. Game could go either way.
But has anyone put into thought the following weeks even if you do win. Here’s how I see our two teams finishing the season.
Chiefs ————————————-Raiders————————
———————————————————————————————
@Den (W) (6-3) BYE (5-4) Chiefs should win this Oak gets rest
Ari (W) (7-3) @Pitt (L) (5-5) Chiefs should win this one also — Pitt is too strong
@ Sea (L) (7-4) Mia (w) (6-5) This week confused me either game could switch
Den (W) (8-4) @S.D. (L) (6-6) should be able to sweep Den , dont see you beating sd twice
@S.D. (L) (8-5) @Jac (W) (7-6) we dont win there either, you should roll Jac
@StL (W) (9-5) Den (W) (8-6) wins for both sides
Tenn (L) (9-6) Indy (L) (8-7) tough week after both winning
Oak (W) (10-6) K.C. (L) (8-8) Arrowhead is a tough place to win in – we split
In classic Raiders / Chiefs matchups the AFCW will come down to the last game, and will run through one of our teams.. If you win the last one it will come down to a tie breaker.Which you will win.
On a baroque and gray, wet day in Oakland
as the field gets soaked and prepared to be muddied, so too, do the minds and bodies of our beloved representatives of this great league of gladiators.
The AFC West will be decided today, and a convincing win by either side could mean playoff contention.
May the better team win! My biggest question about the Chiefs remains at QB. Will our pass rush prove too much? Will Nnamdi’s absence play a larger role in the outcome? Will the slippery field surface favor either side? Too many questions to answer, but my blood boils as we wait.
The Nation will prove the twelfth man on the field today, and our Raiders emerge victorious, 21-17.
"If your only ambition in life, is to be a better person; well, that's just the best ambition you can have..." Wayne "Rabbit" Bartholomew
Its a long season..
Dont want to get to happy about whats going on with the nation… Dont want any let downs… Its been forever since we have been 500 so everybody…SHHHHH..
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Will
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