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249 rushing yards and a 6.9 yard average carry. And the beat goes on...
For the last seven years its been the same results for the run defense, regardless of who the defensive coordinator is, the position coaches are, the talent on the field or the so-called "scheme". Yes, this year there has so far been some small doses of incremental improvements, but it has not been sustained nearly to the point to say the problem is being fixed. But even if the scheme is a part of the blame, the scheme still has to be executed by the players and that is clearly not happening.
Last year's linebacking group was the scapegoat for the run defense deficiencies for which they were exterminated and a new fresh group was brought in to fill the "gap". But that's the problem, as this groups main consistency seems to be MISSING the right gap and filling the wrong gap. This group of LB's seem to be constantly out of position, missing assignments, letting themselves get walled-off, and missing tackles.
It isn't all the linebackers fault, but they are a major part of the problem with the run defense.Cable just thinks that we are close and all can be fixed after we look at the film. Taking this undisciplined and soft approach is surely doomed.
So, is the perennial run D problem due to coaching failure to "coach"? Is it the talent that we have? Does the defensive coordinator have a clue as to what to do to actually fix this? If he has a clue, is he permitted to deploy it without coach Davis' full approval. Or are we dealing with a combination of all the above and the problem will not be fixed until there is an organization overhaul from the the top to the bottom.
What do you think Nation? What is your solution to the run defense's failure?
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This is a funk. Something has to happen to make this haze of failure go away. The players are pretty good, the coaching staff is at least half-assed NFL caliber. It has turned into a culture of failure. I truly believe that players come to Oakland with an expectation of failure.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
not sure about the culture of failure
Certainly not this year. It’s more like learning to drive – too many things to watch for, and it takes time until everything blends in smoothly. Watching film and discussing the mistakes is far from enough – practice is the mother of smoothness. Not sure what exactly they work on in practice, but game time certainly provides opportunities.
I actually like what I see much better than last year, rough edges and all.
by Spirals galore on Oct 4, 2010 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Al Davis's defensive philosophy
Effects the coaches gameplan. It something the coaches have to deal with every day. But the oline play Is all them.
But answer me this Batman, why the fuck did it take so long to go to a 5 man front? They kept running it to the same side… Stretch, pitch, or whatever. It was like the Coach was sitting on his hands!!! Until he said FUCK it! He knew how to handle sitiuation… But he had to go along with the hand he was dealt.
And any other coach who comes here will have to deal with it too. I mean if branch, huff, McClain, all make a play… We don’t have this discussion. But they didn’t. And I’m still hung over either way.
1-3 is not good but it doesn’t mean we’re out. The next few games are important with SD, SF, and Denver coming up but I think it will all be competitive games that I hope can win.
The raiders have a lot envested in this season with our 1st round pick tide into this mess. Hopefully there won’t be 2011 draft without the CBA. Lol.
FML x3
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
by gogomaplata on Oct 4, 2010 7:13 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
The "moral victory"
syndrome has taken over the “failure” mentallity; so wtf is the difference?!!!! Yes we have a young team and we have had a young team for a long time now (pun intended.) The excuses the coaches make for failed performances (of coaches and players) are disgusting. As much as Al Davis is to be respected with his efforts, the common thread in this fiasco as an organization lies with he, the man at the top. Too much of a stale methodology shows up in the way our team executes, both on offense and defense (special teams with Jan is shaky too.) Naturally the coaches and players, being paid, can not speak their minds regarding the real issues if Al is doing all the things (juggling/manipulation/meddling, too much day-to-day and game-time hands-on, etc.) the media hints-at, and what Sapp and Kiffin says; but, it is apparent Mr. Davis needs to fully turn over the reins to a trusted family member and trust that they will do the best he or she can, or sell to the highest bidder. And as a devoted fan of the Oakland Raiders the allegiance shall continue but it should be known it is painful. This team needs to create a vengence for winning! with a “no matter what, minus the penalties” attitude; this is no longer a “just win” moral victory situation ‘baby.’ This is the 21st century and Oakland football needs to be a major player.
as things are right now, and until Al gives up the reigns,
I suggest we keep up the relentless constructive criticism. The “poor baby” approach doesn’t work. If I meet some players today, I’ll let them have it.
by Spirals galore on Oct 4, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree! Al Davis needs to realize that the game passed him and his mentality by about 30 years ago! he needs to step back and let the coaches COACH! instead of telling them to do things his way! Al doesnt like the west coast offense he doesnt like the shotgun he doesnt like a lot of things that actually work! But he signs the paychecks and so he calls the shots and he is still living in the fantasy world of 1962 when he turned the Raiders around from a 2-12 team to a 10and 4 team! and that was great AL! But damn man that was 48 years ago and football is NOT the same as it was then! Dont get me wrong I dont wish Al Ill but I really dont see anything changing until he kicks the bucket! because until then he will continue to refuse to hire a GOOD coach and a GOOD GM and will continue to interfere with the coaches ability to COACH!!!
You're preaching to the Nation.
We’ve been saying this for the past half-decade.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
by TAW on Oct 4, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
It's amazing...
It’s amazing how many people feel this way yet there’s nothing we can really do about it. Al’s gonna do what he wants, how he wants. That’s what makes him Al Davis.
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Not true
People could stop going to the games all together. I mean, a full on boycott. Al can’t argue with that. He’ll be reminded who HIS boss is. With the games being blacked out anyway, and nobody in the immediate area being able to watch them on tv, a completely empty stadium would speak volumes if it were made clear to him what the deal was. Not for the whole season, I’m talking one game, just to make the point. Those of you who regularly go, and especially season ticket holders, you are Al’s boss and should feel free to remind him.
That seems plausible
However, it would take a lot of planning and effort from the Nation! But even then, Al may even STILL be too selfish to realize what he needs to do. I’m all for your idea though! It’d definitely send a message.
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That might push him over the edge and get the team moved again - bad idea when
3 of the past 4 games came down to the final 2 minutes.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 5, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Our O-line..........
and crappy safety play have been crippling us against the run . The reason I say O-line is because without ball control the D is out there way too much . And if I see Tyvonne Branch miss another tackle I am going to puke (more missed tackles and bad angles then anyone) Huff sucks at tackling too! Mitchell is our best tackling safety but he is a liability in pass coverage. I think Stevie Brown may be the best out of the bunch! Hopefully the Raiders get it together and kick butt on the Chargewhores.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!
Bongsmoke
Scheme
We have run the same 4-3 lack of blitzing since ever. If you never add anything or adjust teams will figure you out
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Overall it is a better situation than last year however the record is identical which is unfortunate.
The run defense is not going to be fixed as long as we are using the same approach we have been using for the past 20 years. That goes back to the players we run out there and the philosophy. It shows in the kickoff coverage as ours is horrid. There are a bunch of long runs and returns in which we don’t even get a hand on the runner. Cable is at fault as well since he was using this more relaxed approach to the first days of training camp. This team needs to put the pads on the first day of camp and that includes the mandatory mini-camps. No more holding out players for hang-nails or bruised elbows. They need to go back to high school style Oklahoma drills in order to get out of this mentality of taking plays off. If they can run two-a-days in the California heat in full pads then playing a 60 minute game in the Fall is a walk in the park.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
if you want to blitz, with thin depth, you need incredible Safeties!!!!
The Raiders made a huge mistake, essentially releasing Gibril Wilson for Branch. While a lot of fans thought Wilson was deadwood, I found his play to have a redeeming quality and he would be very effective in this defense.
If Mitchell is such a natural, why the lack of PT? Personally, he was our 2nd round draft pick last year. Anyone else think that was too high? Given our needs at other positions. Obviously hindsight 20/20, other teams were after him, we drafted him.
Someone have a slight tad of understanding about the safety position? It doesn’t seem fluid at all, there’s no stop-gap to ease Mitchell into the gig. Seems like trial and error and we couldn’t be more erratic at the position if we tried.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 10:23 AM PDT reply actions
the bears were said to pick up mitchell after us in the second round.
also, the raiders run a 3 safety rotation. mitchell plays, but he’s considered the 3rd safety as of now.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
thnks Pat, frustrated, if you want to be blitz happy, you better make sure your safeties
are reliable, it eases the stress a little bit.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep. I see what you mean.
However, I think it is very important, I don’t know if it’s more important than the safeties but, having CBs at the line who man handle their WRs, and mess up their release off the line. Disruption.
But I do see what you mean.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
i think for the most part...
and i mean about 90 percent of the time, the WR’s did a good job clearing the way for Miller and DMC to make plays
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
Get new safeties
The Raiders has had problems at safety for a long time and it wont get any better am not a fan of Branch or Mitchell i really dont see anything special with these guys they miss tackles and take bad angles
Problem is, who is there to go get?
I wanna see Stevie get in for Huff and let Huff try some CB
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Has anyone else noticed that every pass completed happens in front of Tyvon Branch?? He, for the lack of a better word, sucks!
He never attacks the ball. He always waits for them to catch it first. Not to mention that half the time he is out of position. He looks lost out there.
I think Huff is decent. I think his learning curve was a little to big, and it took him too long to get to this point. But he is good at defending the run. But then the RB’s should not be making it to the 3rd level, and require the safeties to stop them.
Hell yes I've noticed and I've also noticed Huff tackles like a girl
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 5, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Blame the safety problem on Rob Ryan, our former defensive co-ordinator, in five years
running the same system, Ryan was unable to establish the safety position, whether through free agency or trade or draft. Pathetic.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 10:30 AM PDT reply actions
Not Ryans fault
He was awful but hje ran Al’s defense. I hate Ryan both Al more so
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
picture says it all
with Q. Groves sitting there lost and having McClain chase after Foster… they kept running to the same side… it was crazy, like they had some cheat code or something… 1st down after first down. fuck my mother fucken life x 10000
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
^
We need to have henderson next houston. not kelly. and shaugnessy on the ther end, with seymour next to him.
Kelly is way too inconsistent.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
and Marshall and Al Davis...
when will it end… when will we have a good season? i swear, i think id rather have them move back to LA so i dont have to buy season tickets ever year…
i thinks its harder when you invest your own money into this. cause its easy to sit there and criticize the team when your sitting at home which i think id prefer. thank god there are outlets like S&BP cause i swear id lose my mind.
the funny thing is, that team on the field is hellava lot better then any of the last 4 years ive been a season ticket holder but its just not good enough to win games.
trust me, if we were 3-1 or 2-2, id at least be happy cause the stats prove were a better team but it doesnt. our team is better but the standings dont show it. i hope we turn it around reals soon cause the rest of the season is an uphill battle outside of the division.
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
I blame Rob Ryan for the lack of consistency at Safety, I wish Eric Wright from Cleveland
all the best, although I think his talent is partly wasted when Rob Ryan runs his scheme.
FIVE years later, we still don’t have the safety position sured up.
Personally, does anyone else feel that Will Hill from Florida or Blake Gideon from Texas are good fits.
I love Gideon, I think he’d be a perfect Raider FS.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind getting a safety, but
depending on the depth of OL next year of course, I would rather address the OL first.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
yeah, I know. Demarcus Love or Kris O'Dowd would obviously be priorties over the
talent available, safety or otherwise.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
talkin draft a quarter through the season
its depressing to know we dont have a first rounder… oh well hopefully we can turn it around
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
I really like O'Dowd, he's a 2nd rounder, he'd be a boon to our O-line
essentially we would have flexible depth, versatility, and a little nastiness.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Seymour has been doing very good for us.
But yes. Quite depressing. :(
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Actually he looked like the only guy who showed up yesterday on defense.
I wonder if he is embarrassed or thinks it’s funny how they perform after all the success the Pats teams he’s been on have had while counting his $12 million.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
I think King Richard wants to win- that's what he wants.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Defense
Marshall or Marshmallow?" Keep it simple" for who? us or their offense. I know this… If its not broke don’t fix it… If it don’t work CHANGE IT. Players have to belive in what they are doing. I don’t see any belief and haven’t for years in Oakland..
They are good just need a little time.
Rolondo just tuned 21!!! This is the first time these guys have played together too. At the same time WTF is Thomas howard not in the game more!?! These backers get burned cause they are pretty big and not totally mobile but Howard is.
Huff has been missing tackles especially on RB’s. I was hoping to see Mitchell in there a bit more.
The defensive scheme is garbage
Al controls the way the D is run. 4 man rush, we rarely blitz, only one of the corners can handle man to man coverage (Aso), and the safeties just can’t handle it. This is the old style defensive scheme invented by Lombardi 50 years ago. Al is the only guy around that thinks it can still function in today’s NFL.
Old Al just keeps telling himself these guys will figure it out and be able to make it work, but really, the players we have on D are not fit for this. So until Al changes his mind (fat f’n chance) we will have a mediocre defense and a revolving door for coaches because it has to be someones fault.
"We can't stop here... This is bat country."
Sanjay Lal is the only position coach who needs to be put against the wall
the lack of evolution at the WR is a troubling development. He’s not improving any facet of their skill sets.
James Lofton saw something he didn’t like in our Receivers and got out of dodge. Who knows why? Sanjay Lal, little experience in the way of coaching. Unless you count coaching up football players in Scotland. Scotland, you read that right. The Raider coaching staff, wanted Lofton, who politely left, now we have Sanjay Lal. True story.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 12:53 PM PDT reply actions
The news I heard was Lofton was fired because Al heard he was being offered the same position by San Diego.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
by TAW on Oct 4, 2010 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude, if that's true [provide source[s] if possible], or just the regular ether talk, it says two
things about Davis
1] While being cocky, at times, obstinate, at the core of his ego, Davis is insecure about his staff and doesn’t trust anyone.
2] Even if Lofton was offered the same position, why not hire someone with equal or greater experience to save face, instead of hiring a disciple of Lofton, who’s acumen is really low in regards to coaching up athletes.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure, I don't have the info on why he was fired but do have the source.
I am not sure why he was let go which of course is Al’s decision and it’s his team but the fact the man was good enough to interview for their head coaching position and then to be fired was very strange. It could be because he was Kiffin’s choice and Cable probably agreed as a condition of having the interim label removed.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
by TAW on Oct 4, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
It's the scheme, Al's scheme. The coaches my ass, they are handicapped to run predictable,
and outdated bullshit. Blitz more, Blitz at least one safety since they can’t cover or tackle in the open field maybe they can either stop the RB by hitting a predictable gap and before he goes into the high shift and rolls over them, or sack the QB. More Cover 2 and good Zone not crappy zone.
The RaiderLaker
AL DAVIS IS THE PROBLEM.
Things you can do, some can't be done.
by GoDead on Oct 4, 2010 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybe it’s the fact we’re running a 4-3 system when we have the personel for a 3-4.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
it's times like these I miss Chester Mcglockton
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions

I think next year is the year to get a true NT. Whether it be in the 3rd or 4th, we need a big body to fill the middle.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
+1, total agreement on this.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
+2
Sad days we are having right now………but we just look bad. Although we had some bright spots. some great passes but our WR’s need some old fashioned stick ‘em! I mean come on. you get hit in the hands or #’s on a key play and can’t make a catch! I lost my voice screaming at the TV!
I’m just praying we can break this FUNK.
by Cash Money Brothers on Oct 4, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
We have Hendo
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
times like this i miss
Sam Adams, Trace Armstrong, Eric Barton, Crockett, Anthony Dorsett, Gannon, Napoleon Harris, Delawrence Grant, Derrick Gibson, Frank Middleton, Parrella, Lincoln, Romanowski, Regan Upshaw, Wheatley, Rod Wodson, Treu…
aka GOLDENBOYWARRIOR
Nice. I miss Napoleon Kaufman the most, man, he did what he had to do.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
+1
I still wear his jersey when watching the games.
by TexasRaider20 on Oct 4, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I miss the old Al Davis
You remember, the Al Davis that used to make the right moves for the right time in football. The man whose scheme we still run today in a completely different league.
YES
Have something like this
DE: Houston/ Matt S
DT: Henderson / Kelly
DE: Seymour / Bryant
OLB: Scott
MLB:Ro
MLB: Howard/Groves
OLB: Wimbley
And the secondary
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Exactly. But, it’s a bit late in the season to make the switch now. But it’s something to strongly consider in the offseason.
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
This is something we hoped they put together this past off season
But instead they wanted to talk “hybrid”.
on the positive side, Raiders losing kills Davis more than anyone
He said he’ll walk away if the Raiders win 2 Super Bowls, We’re going in the right direction, I’m just not sure whether or not he’ll live that long to see it, not that I’m wishing for us not to win, it’s just harder to imagine the Raiders winning 2 Super Bowls and he leaves, or the more likely scenario is that he dies before that ever happens.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions
Probably
the later of the 2 scenarios is most likely. This does not mean I wish death upon AD it is just a fact though he is in his early 80s and sick as hell looking and in true pain from serious OA.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Oct 4, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't wish Davis ill will myself, losing eats him alive more than other Raider [fan, coach, legend]
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't want him to die either
I’d just like him to stay home…retire, enjoy Florida on a full time basis.
You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
At some point, even Al Davis has to see what's happenning
If this season continues to sink, and if he has to go through another coaching change, the first announcement Davis should make is, “There is something wrong with how the Raiders have been run for the better part of a decade now, and with great reluctance and knowing there is a lot of work left to do, I am stepping down as General Partner of the Oakland Raiders…”
At some point, this old warhorse has to step down for the good of the organization and the fans. He’ll remind us of all his glory years and how strong his commitment was. His legacy can be rebuilt before he passes on. The work of rebuilding the team and buiding a new stadium can be passed down to someone with less baggage and a fresh start. A new coach can be hired without the spector of Davis overseeing the entire football operation from the top down. The record on the field and in the stands are a direct result of failed leadership, and it’s time for the Raiders to be relavant again. This has to happen for us to move forward in my opinion.
You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
Love is blind
and stubbornness does not break easy as you get older.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Oct 4, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah, I supposed that's why I'm still a Raiders fan
You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
not to mention, the net worth of the Oakland Raiders is $736 Million Dollars, Stockholders
couldn’t be happier. Al Davis has, himself collectively, made more money for the NFL than any other owner, and he couldn’t begrudge them more, than ever, about. He’s an icon, built a dynasty, a maverick. He’s old and lost his edge. Doesn’t matter. He writes the cheques. Trust me guys. Don’t take it personal when the Raiders lose anymore, we will rise again, 2-3 years, be patient.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you want to hear the crazy part of that valuation?
When the team finally sells the NFL will have a huge influence on how much it gets sold for and push the sale price up probably 20% just like the fuckers did in Washington. The share holders are gonna cash in large
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Oct 4, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions
incredible! considering the environ of NFL Universe. Davis V. NFL was groundbreaking
I myself wonder, why the NFL won’t induct Tom Flores in the Hall of Fame.
For Shame.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 4, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Dont get me started
Hayes, Flores, Tim Brown, I am tired I can’t remember all the names but the list is longer than my Ex is a bitch.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Oct 4, 2010 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't do it
Remember the kids in Washington wanted to keep the Redskins. They have to go through the purchase phase just like everyone else. That is how Daniel Snyder got the Redskins. Because they still have to pay the NFL a portion of the sale price. Remember it acts as a franchise not a sole propriety.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Oct 5, 2010 4:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope that is the case.
Even though the Raiders are worth as much as you stated they continue to lose revenue and this season is looking no different from the last few years either. If Al takes the losing as personally as you all say he does than why does he assume his defensive schemes will always work? If he does then why does he continue to undermine game plans set during the week? Why does he try to throw blame on others continuously such as Kiffin bringing out an over head projector like it was going to justify why he won’t pay the man? In the process it made us fans look like a bunch of clowns. He should bury the Just win, baby mantra because he would have to add to it like saying “Just win, baby but if you lose playing my style then I’m ok with that too”. I don’t wish ill of the man but I just want him to go away and never be involved with any decision making when it comes to the Oakland Raiders franchise ever again.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
by TAW on Oct 5, 2010 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions
why you ask? Well, it's very simple: Al Davis has carte blanche. He's the GM.
1 of only 3 GM/Owners who are the principal owner/Gm, the other two being Jerry Jones and Paul Brown.
Like I said earlier in an above post- the buck stops with Davis, he signs the cheques. He can run the team anyway he wants. And, if he did resign as GM, on the small % that happens, he would still decide the future of this team.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 5, 2010 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Dallas fans, they're team hasn't won a superbowl in fifteen years, that's
11 years longer than our drought, still, you see a lot of Cowboy fans that have bigger beefs about Jones than we should about Davis.
Jones really took Arlington for a ride on the gravy train. It’s quite funny, they’re supposed to ’America’s Team’, yet when it came to cost ‘covering’, Jones made sure Arlington was there to pony up.
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 5, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
It's All On The Defensive Coordinator
After watching tape of your next opponent, you plan to play against their strength. If they are a passing team, than you make sure the cornerbacks and safeties now what they are suppose to do and tell them it is their responsibility to give the defensive line the time to get to the QB. Zones are useless if the QB has the time to wait for layers to get open. If the opponent is a running team, load the box to force them to throw the ball. If the defensive plan is not working, than make changes or adjustment during the game or at halftime. That is the problem with our defense. No proper game planning and adjustments. Also during practice, any players who miss tackles in the last game will be staying late hitting the tackling dummy until they hurt and don’t want to miss anymore tackles again!!!
by Archangel25 on Oct 4, 2010 8:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I like to see
I would like to see The Raiders run their defense like how The Ravens and The Steelers run theirs but i also know you need a good defensive of coordinator and players to pull it off but more importently you need Al Davis’ say so and i dont see that happening . I think if The Raiders do this it would give their defense a identiy something they have not had in a long time
Teams that are identified as defensive teams...consistently
Steelers, Ravens, Giants, Bears. What do they have that we don’t have that makes their defense better than ours? Players that not only have talent but HEART and the desire to win!!!!
by Archangel25 on Oct 4, 2010 9:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
In nature, the swiftest animals, e.g. deer, use their speed to escape the predatory ones, e.g. lions
Huff and Branch, like Bey, are swift non-predators.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 5, 2010 3:51 AM PDT up reply actions
bravo, well said
I like to believe that my best hits border on felonious assault.
-Jack Tatum
by R.I.P. JACK TATUM RAIDER D GOAT on Oct 5, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
scheme and safeties and nt/dt
So much for placing the blame on McClain.
There is a reason those runs are going outside, McClain.
There is a reason passes are completed in front of Safeties, McClain.
Teams are avoiding going directly at McClain, therefore exposing other deficiencies. Those deficiencies were always there, but weren’t exploited and revealed.
Scheme: Whether 3-4 or 4-3, you got five lineman, one fullback, one tight end, that’s seven blockers, against, seven defenders. Unless someone beats a block right near the hole, the safeties have to make tackles.
Furthermore, not all blockers get lined up one on one. With a zone scheme, they can ignore the side they are going away from, and add extra blockers in the direction they are running. Which means, both Safeties have to play run effectively.
Linebackers, can disrupt the play if, IF, they have the knowledge and experience to shoot the gap consistently and the lineman to occupy the blockers. We know the Raiders don’t have a line that can disrupt the backfield consistently. As far as knowledge and aggressiveness is concerned, think of it like high school basketball. When you’re a freshman point gaurd playing varsity, the coach doesn’t want you to abandon the play and drive to the basket, but when you are a senior gaurd, you are praised for taking advantage of the situation.
Defensive Line: It seems the Raiders know that they can’t penetrate at will and disrupt the running game. So instead, they work on gap integrity, spacing, and creating a wall. That should allow the linebackers and safeties to make the tackle. We all know how that’s going. But as I mentioned earlier, the linebackers are also blocked, so that leaves the safeties.
Defensively, yes, we need depth and quality at the tackle position. Kellen Heard (where is the big guy?) And Safety. Hey, lets coach up our big hitters, Mitchell and Brown. The Huff Branch experiment is over.
Cable said Monday, "We're playing the right players" So we, as true fans, are put in the position
of forcing Tom’s hand – as we did last year with JR – and BOOing consistently bad play from our Safeties. Our improvement at LCB served to reveal our weakness in coverage at SS and the strong rushing teams we’ve faced early this season revealed Huff’s effeminate tackling. I recall Huff making some hits last season, but on reflection, none of them were open field but sitting duck WRs and sideline takeouts.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 5, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions

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