Rolando McClain: Week 4's Loss Sits Squarely On The Oakland Raider Rookie's Shoulders
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 5, 2010 8:55 AM PDT
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Raider Nation, we all knew that there would be growing pains for Rolando and NONE of us thought that he would be perfect. Well, this past Sunday he was exposed and then tossed on the spit to burn.
The Houston Texans must have seen that he has a tendency to over-pursue and bite on misdirection, because he was all over the place and was personally responsible for 2 TDs and a host of other big plays.
We all know that Rolando watches a ton of film and that his work ethic is what has gotten him this far, so, I expect him to study the film extensively this week because in this copycat league, you can expect to see the Chargers do the exact same thing.
McClain was nowhere near Arian Foster when Foster scored the deciding touchdown and he bit hard on the first TD of the game. In fact, on Houston's initial scoring drive, McClain was responsible for most of the yardage.
The running defense was atrocious on Sunday, as evidenced by the team playing a two deep zone when the Texans were lined up in a power I with NOBODY split left or right on Arian Foster's 74 yard scamper into the end zone to start the 2nd Half and Rolando needs to own up to it. he is the middle linebacker and he needs to stay home, fight off blocks and not give up the cutback. Period.
We, on S&BP, support Rolando and this entire team AND I will also hold you accountable when you blow it. McClain, you need to own this one. Study your film, get back to work, and don't ever let that happen again.
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Home is where the Heart is - Ro stay home - let's send Groves and/or Wimbley against Rivers
But the DL (except Seymour and Shaughnessy) is accountable as well and the Safeties played like candies whiffing tackles. It was a butt ugly, weak and dumb effort and Marshall isn’t exempt from the blame either. We knew this was a rushing team and were not even close to being prepared.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
Miami's Special Team coach fired after Monday night's game...
If anyone saw how bad Miami’s Special Team played on Monday night and their ST coach being fired the next day, Oakland’s defense coordinator better sleep with one eye open. Our rush defense has not improved, but have gotten worst. Cable has to realize he’s 1-3 and ultimately accountable for how the team performs. Another failed showing by our defense and heads should roll.
The offense have definitely improved. Even with 3 injured WRs (Schilens out, Heywerd-Bay and Murphy playing hurt) which made our WR corps pretty much worthless through most of the game, Gradowski leaned heavily on our TE Miller and our RBs. Our offense is not good enough to lose 3 WRs and expect to win. Our D has got to pick it up!
Ro certainly isn't the only MLB that the Texans have made to look foolish
but he certainly seemed to take a step back this week. Hopefully this motivates him to work even harder.
I also hope he learns that part of being a leader is being publicly accountable. His refusal to address the media will lead to a quick public demise and piss off his teammates if his bad performances begin to mount. It’s not like his peers were looking forward to talking to the press after that one.
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
is refusal to address the media will lead to a quick public demise
What refusal?
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
If I'm correct,
Ro rarely addesses the media. Rarely. But to who’s discretion, to me is unknown. I could care less if they talk to the media, I just want results.
But I could see where the media could spin it around to make ro look bad. For the most part, I’d rather have his play on the field speak for itself.
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by gogomaplata on Oct 5, 2010 2:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
He's not very interesting to talk to if you listen to
I never remember him dissing the media, I think if they wanted to interview him more he would
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
I am more concerned with how it will shape his teammates perception of him
He is trying to be a leader. Leaders need to stay in and take the heat. If he doesn’t answer the questions then that filters down the the shoulders of his teammates.
Lord loves a workin' man; don't trust whitey; see a doctor and get rid of it.
by Rich Langford on Oct 5, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Fortunately, Ro doesn't know how to handle defeat.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 5, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
True
Personally, I think the media has long been too invasive. Required post-game press conferences, media in the locker room, etc.
Why the hell can’t they just have a public relations person speak to the media after each game, and have them leave the players and coaches alone so they can concentrate on what they’re supposed to be doing?
Usually it’s just vague BS answers to their questions anyway, either:
“Well we had some good things happen for us out there, and we were able to do some of things we wanted to…”
or
“We weren’t able to do the things that we needed to do, and they brought a lot of intensity, and…”
His comment after the loss was "No Comment"
It is all about coming together as a team. At the end of the day, the team is all we have. - T. Branch 10-14-09
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Oct 5, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm starting to not like the guy
own up to being a professional and talk to the media. Even tommy kelly doesd this now after years of brushing everyone off.
I'm beginning to think Gallery is a bust.
He has had nothing to offer but 1.5 seasons maybe 2… Of solid play. I haven’t given up on any of our dozen 1st round picks lately even with Jamarcus I didn’t give up. I ate crow for making excuses for him the same way I did Campbell.
The point is I know Gallery is one hellava tough dude but dammit, we need him in there.
Ro on the hand will be just fine. Hopefully he will be able to remain healthy so I don’t have to make excuses for his play also.
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by gogomaplata on Oct 5, 2010 11:49 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Huff isn't much better. Hind sight is 20/20
But when is enough, enough?
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by gogomaplata on Oct 5, 2010 1:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
Huff seems the worst, at points he looks almost scared to tackle anyone a little bigger than a WR, and his coverage does not make up for it
I Think huff always wants to make the "play".
That’s the problem. If you notice or follow these players twitter feed, most if them are humbled by loses… I honestly think they care about how the teams been playin.
I remember during camp, and how the media was pumpin the raiders up, you couldn’t miss a tweet… Now were losing and not too many are tweeting as much.
I’m still surprised Cable still yapping his gums about being the team they know they can be.
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by gogomaplata on Oct 5, 2010 2:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Huff & others...
Are in the NFL they SHOULD be making plays. Not tweeting about wanting too, you would figured after all that humble pie they’ll had their fill. I have, yet you honestly think they feel bad, but not bad enough to get their shit together and consistently string some wins.
It gets harder & harder every year w/this team.
Death is coming for everyone, and that makes living fun.
question for gogomaplata
when do you have time to check twitter when you have a high maintenance girlfriend?
i say swap Huff for Brown
With Brown moved to LB in college maybe he knows how to tackle, and maybe he has a clue how to pass cover
+1
I’m all for more Stevie Brown and Mike Mitchell. I think we should let Branch and Huff walk, IF Branch doesn’t wake up.
"When you believe in yourself......you will conquer many of your fears before they even manifest."
-Zen Master, Nnamdi "The Awesome One" Asomugha
both brown and huff are lame
huff is a free safety, would be falttened at LB (if that was your suggestion)
I say it sits more on Scott and Kelly who were blown off the ball every play
It’s hard for a rookie MLB then throw in him having lineman always getting to him? When he had Henderson with him he was great. I blame the DL and safeties this week more than the LB’s
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
They were runnin towards Kelly and Houston
Most of the time. Whatever. They just need to get this win sunday. What is it lik
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by gogomaplata on Oct 5, 2010 2:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
What's it like...??? 6 year losing streak against sd?
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by gogomaplata on Oct 5, 2010 2:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yup
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
6 1/2 years
The last time we won was 34-31 in OT and we had to come back. Rich Gannon was the QB and the Chargers were playing as close to perfect an offensive game as you could play at the time with Drew Brees at QB and Ladanian Tomlinson going crazy rushing and receiving against us. If we lose this is going to be 14 straight losses. Not to odd that it coincides with when all of our problems started.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
Yeah... Goddam it
Just reading that, got me fired up thus weekend…
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by gogomaplata on Oct 5, 2010 2:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
No no no no no no no!
I will not dump on him as being that responsible for any of the run D. That lackey Marshall calls 1970’s D schemes because Al wants him to. Our safety support on run plays is a big bag of suckass. I will also agree with SOB on the D line. Kelly is his usual lack luster self that can’t have a consistent 2 games or plays. I give Ro a pass this season as getting a truck load of shit rolling his way nearly every down.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Oct 5, 2010 2:58 PM PDT reply actions
Disagree slightly on Marshall
He called plays from the 70s when he was with the seachickens. He sucks out loud.
"God will understand. And if he does not understand, then he is not God, and we need not worry." -Orlando Bloom, Kingdom of Heaven
by angelesoterica on Oct 6, 2010 4:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Well
thankfully he is consistent (sarcasm).
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Oct 6, 2010 5:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Rolando and the Defense
It’s been pointed out that the LB’s have looked confused at times. McClain is responsible for the reads and I think Saint is right to a certain extent. I hope it is a problem getting positioning but it seems pathetic how piss ass our run defense is and has been for 8 years now. McClain and Houston came from the 2 top Run Defenses in the country, I think we are making the right moves but still using a dead system. We play with LB’s designed to Blitz and they are forced to play Coverage and systematically are just a waste. The gap discipline the other schemes require are something that would certainly be a better then what we currently are doing. I think McClain will be alright, I see him handling his career really well and being the player we expect him to be.
"When you believe in yourself......you will conquer many of your fears before they even manifest."
-Zen Master, Nnamdi "The Awesome One" Asomugha
has anyone
noticed that we don’t create any havoc on defense? no sacks no stuffs for loss in the run defense no interceptions no fumbles the other team rarely gets called for motion or holding, the qb seems to get 4 seconds on every pass read( thank god for the secondary coverage) when we get blocked we stay blocked…no blitzing no different looks up front or on the back end hell we don’t even fake blitzing and drop back into our base defense…..put simple the D just doesn’t make plays and is not afforded the oportunity by the coaches to do so….we will continue to lose double digit games until we make coaching changes and OL’ BIG AL allows the coaches to make calls and change schemes to help the fellas on the field make big plays…we spend too much time labeling players busts when in fact it is the powers that be that are the true busts.
Our D is as drap as possible and that must be credited systemically to Marshall. But as you watch
the individual linemen you see some, like Seymour and Shaughnessy, holding their turf while others, like Kelly and Scott, getting blown back. So, it’s not simply coaching or players but both.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 5, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Truly
This is so correct.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Oct 5, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Add Al Davis' dated schemes to that and you have a complete picture
Al has always believed that our front four must create all the pressure and that leaves suspect players like Kelly and Scott on an island and over matched. so it’s scheme, players and coaching
Yes, the scheme is exhausted and unimaginative doing nothing to offset our weaknesses
or leverage our strengths.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 5, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Precisely what irks me the most.
We’ve failed to use our offensive weapons to our advantage the same way for far too long. It starts with coaching and trickles down to the players who seem they simply are not taught to disrupt and hit the offense in the mouth, rather, they sit back and wait for plays to happen and respond.
That, cannot continue. Our players aren’t good enough, and need all the help proper scheming and designed disruption can provide. We don’t seem to get that, and if I had to measure blame, I’d say it was at least 60 or 70% coaching, as this unit is new, and can only reflect the leadership. It seems they are doing that; only problem is, the leadership seems content with losing, and the players are reflecting that.
I fear this team will play right into StD’s hands, and lose yet another heartbreaker. We’re just not playing well enough to beat teams that show, that at least for one Sunday, they want to lose less than our Oakland Raiders, and that, sucks for us as fans. We deserve better.
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by brhynno on Oct 5, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Marshmallow is a fossil and Cable a spineless pumpkin ... our rookies are slowly
being corrupted by these corrosive losers.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 5, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
But I should point out, our D doesn’t really seem to change. New coaches, New players, and on and on, but the one constant remains. At least until he comes out in the day light, or we hang garlic around the stadium.
A lot of the non-blitzing and stuffs are because our run defense can't tear through a paper bag much less a block.
The opposition can just rely on six yard gains on 1st down and do whatever they want on 2nd and 3rd.
Cowards die many times before their deaths
The valiant never taste of death but once.
WILLIAM SHAKESPEARE, Julius Caesar
by TAW on Oct 6, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Remember the PreSeason ???
They showed us what this defense was capable of !!! Mutliple fronts. Variety of formations with different personnel packages!!! And they all produced good results. Season starts, and it’s the same old lame BS defense being used. Basic 4 man front with no adaptabilty !!! I have yet to see them audible the defense once they see a formation. I mean Really !!!! I know Ro & the rest of defense can reconize a play sometimes !!! I just have to think that their not allowed to switch up, which points to the coach’s, or is it higher up ???
Leave Al out of it unless you know something certain. Marshmallow seems too gutless to leave
the security of status quo and accept losing gradually by smaller margins as some indicator of success. If this happens Sunday, I will lead a massive movement for his hoary head on a spike.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Oct 5, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
After watching this game up close and personal there are a few things that jumped out at me....
First, sure our rook MLB got his hat handed to him, and it won’t be the last time…He will need time to really get acclimated to the NFL, to start in such a critical position requires great coaching and allot of film room time, if he is coached and he studies he will be a force. I sat and watched us lose a game due to a lack of execution on Offense, as well as the Defensive woes….First, I would straight up CUT Langston Walker, he is a soft as a marshmillow and plays with absolutely NO heart at all. He is a straight up bum on the O line and I would put a rook at right tackle and take my lumps, we’re taking them any way. D Line, Sons is right, it is time for Kelly and Scott to act like they care about their jobs. McClain gets a pass, I believe he will catch up. Saint, I didn’t get there early enough to make to the tailgate, should make it for San Diego…This may be my last game before I head back to the Midwest, watching the games up close is painful, because the Raiders football intellect is so far behind, we need far better position coaching and coordinating than we are getting. Our wins and losses will not change until that happens, ie, look at KC, coaching,….Go Raiders!@!!
by Rodney Sacramento on Oct 5, 2010 7:18 PM PDT reply actions
Exposed and then tossed on the spit to bur
As was most of the defense, Saint. As a unit they sucked. Scapegoating just makes things simpler for the fans.
MLB is not responsible for cutback, thats someone elses job.
by Blake W on Oct 5, 2010 10:23 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
That's the job of the whole front 7 !!!
This includes the MLB. Fill the gaps!!! No cut back lanes!!! DuH !!
If I may
its hard to fill the gap when the fat fuck in front of you (Kelly) is getting pushed down field toward you helping with the seal against you.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
by TheLyleAlzadoPunch on Oct 6, 2010 5:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Players are the problem, not the coaches
Bad feet, bad decision making and not having a team of leaders makes for mediocrity. “You can’t make chicken soup out of chicken shit”
Disagree on the assessment
The Defensive call was the wrong play call at the wrong time and was poorly executed on that 74 yard run. If we would have run our base Defense, it would have been a 5 yard run at best.
A run blitz was called. This means we send linemen to penetrate and disrupt the direction of the run. This was the first failure, there was no redirection of the runner. The runner took one cut and was gone. The SAFTEY is supposed to come up and fill any gaps left. McClain stayed in his gap as he should have. The Saftey Branch was supposed to fill that gap and was taken out by the Full Back. The Free Saftey is supposed to be the last line of defense he (Huff) failed and IMO is most responsible for the TD. McClain may have made a mistake on the pass but how do we know for sure that Foster was his guy in man coverage? You assume since he was nearest to him.
One thing I noticed about McClain is that he stays in his gap as he should almost all the time. We are used to seeing Morrision run out of his gap and his responsibility. McClain knows Football, he is smart. He said recently defense is not difficult, so long as everyone does their job, “the Defense takes care of itself” – very true.
He is a rookie but he is smart. He will be a good influence on our D for a long time. Don’t dog him if you dont understand the play call.
Huff however needs to sit. He is afraid of contact. Mitchell needs to start and right now.
Huff's physique looks more like a cornerback than a safety, on that 74 yard run
it looked like the kicker was trying to tackle the running back.
by Oceanside Raider on Oct 8, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
i agree
def not ro’s fault i think that henderson being out has been a big set back, we also need to execute on offense as well(when it counts especilly, that last drive when murphy dropped a ball that should have been caught to end the game, felt just like the week before),but my man bruce is doing his job and a great leader we are on the road to greatness once again if we have another great draft and a veteren WR that will be dependable and help mold our young recievers
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