The Totter Has Teetered
by Rich Langford on Nov 1, 2010 3:48 AM PDT
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Look, if you had one shot, or one opportunity
To seize a 500 record in one moment
Would you capture it? Or just let it slip?
Okay, so I didn't write that, but it is relevant. Do you remember when Eminem ruled the airwaves with that song? How about when Tim Allen let loose his cinematic genius again in Santa Clause 2? Or when Friends were there for us...every Thursday night?
Well, these were all the number one entities in their respective fields on November 3, 2002. This happens to be the last time the Raiders were 4-4 or better after 8 games. That season was also the last time the Raiders held an opponent to 3 or fewer points.
Coincidently, it was the last time the Giants were in the World Series, only to lose after blowing a 3 games to 2 lead.
Probably not as familiar is the time when Debby Boone was lighting up our lives, Pete had a cartoon dragon and the Fonz was the king of all shows on the 5 available channels. Well, these were the number ones the last time the Raiders beat the Seahawks by 30 or more.
We could go on with these but, wait....we can't. The Raiders have been too dominant. They have never produced 500+ yards of offense consecutive weeks in a row and I am only assuming, but I feel confident in this assumption, that the Raiders have never had back-to-back wins by a combined 75 points.
Of course, there is the back-to-back win number, but I think everyone at this point knows that it hadn't happened since the last two weeks of the '08 season.
Today was really enjoyable for me. It was great enough that the Raiders kicked ass, but it was even better that my smug Seahawk friends were put back in their place. These friends were getting delusions of team grandeur and those delusions were pirated by OUR OAKLAND RAIDERS!
As enjoyable of game as this was today, the Raiders were far from perfect. I am happy, but I am not going to get carried away with my hopes for the season yet. The Seahawks are bad and they played even below their talent level today.
Still, one thing is for certain, the Raiders are good enough to embarrass bad teams, instead of being the team that can be embarrassed by bad teams and this is a complete change from this time last year. Enough about speculation of what tomorrow holds. We can leave thinking of the future for the future. Right now, we have a victory to bask in.
- And people thought our offensive line was bad! The Seahawks offensive line was a joke and the Raiders over powered them. Tommy Kelly and Richard Seymour set the tone on the Seahawks first offensive series, when each collected a sack. Think about that. Two sacks on the first three plays by DTs. They weren't coverage sacks either. They were holy crap, I can't believe they are already in the backfield sacks.
- The pressure continued. The Raiders had 8 sacks and only one didn't come from the defensive line. They did blitz, but really didn't have to all that often.
- They were just as dominant in the run game. A lot of people were telling other people that this was a good week to start Marshawn Lynch in their fantasy leagues. Lynch had 7 yards on 9 carries and one of his carries was for 7 yards! That's 0 yards on his other 8 carries.
- The Defensive line domination continually put the Seahawks in 3rd and longs. The Seahawks didn't get a first down until there was only 2:29 seconds left in the first half and they didn't get their first 3rd down conversion until there was 12:10 left to go in the game.
- The Raiders ended up holding the Hawks to a 1/16 performance on 3rd downs.
- The Raiders were only 5/17 on third downs, but this was enough to take control of time of possession, which eventually led to them wearing the Hawks D down.
- As lopsided as the score ended up being, this game was not put away until late. It remained a two score game until the 4th quarter. There were quite a few key plays.
- Key Sequence:
- The first key series of events started with the Raiders first possession of the second quarter.
- The Raiders converted a 3rd and 6 when Campbell hit Ford on a slant and Ford made a nice leaping grab at the expense of his knee.
- They quickly found themselves facing a 3rd and 9. The Seahawks had 7 DBs in the game. Campbell was in the shotgun. He audibled and moved under center and handed off to Michael Bush who ran for 8 yards while he had DBs bouncing off of him like balloons. Campbell doesn't audible often, but this showed great awareness. This set up:
- 4th and 1. I figured the Raiders were just going to kick it. I was having flashbacks of the 9ers game at this point. They didn't and somehow the slant got through and Reece scored. What a gutsy call. Campbell hitched before he threw and the delay almost killed the team...almost.
- The Raiders then forced another 3 and out when LaMarr Houston and Death Ro stuffed Lynch for a loss on 3rd and 1. While in the present the game remained in doubt, in retrospect it was over at this point.
- For the worriers:
- I am going to put this in the middle, because I didn't want to start or end with a downer. Nnam! I am not freaking out, but that is only because I am procrastinating. That was not good. I am no doctor, but judging by his reaction, I say a severe high ankle sprain. I am thinking he is out at least a month.
- The Balls Awards:
- Game
- The Lines: Domination! The defense was amazing and the offense wasn't far behind. The Seahawks only ended up with two sacks and the Raiders picked up their blitz better than anyone could've anticipated. Veldheer and Gallery are starting to look special and Carlisle had another very solid game. For the Cooper haters, watch him pull on McFadden's 49-yard run or get out on Reece's 51 yard screen pass.
- Say Hello To My Huge
- The Coaches: The play calling was not for the timid. The 4th and 1? The almost complete and underthrown long ball to DHB on third down near the end of the first half? Gutsy calls. They also used the unbalanced line and it worked. Barnes even caught a pass out of this formation.
- Suck My
- Al Davis: One of the biggest criticisms of Al has been his recent draft choices. Well, they all had a great week.
- DHB-looked like a weapon
- Ro and Houston-both made huge plays
- McFadden-is amazing. One of the best offensive players in football
- Mike Mitchell-is getting better and better. The guy is great at covering TEs...whoda thunk it?
- Robert Gallery-was mauling people and he pissed off Chris Clemons bad enough for him to pick up a key personal foul penalty.
- JaMarcus Russell-had his best week and is avoiding jail.
- Grow Some
- The refs: The 15 yard penalty on Ro for tackling the back of the helmet was laughable. Forsett is like 2 foot 3. The back of the helmet was the only thing to tackle.
- Look At My
- Jeremy Ware: He was thrust into action and thrown on an island and he didn't embarrass himself.
- Stanford Routt: He had a couple of big penalties, but he also had some great coverage. Routt is doing a great job of turning his head around and finding the ball. Just like he did on the one he tipped that ended up bouncing off of Butler to Tyvon Branch.
- You Don't Always Have To Prove You Have
- Nick Miller: It's okay to fair catch some punts.
- Wow! I Just Found This
- Michael Bush: It's about time some bounces went to the Raiders. Great hustle by Bush. He could've just stayed near the line. I am glad he didn't.
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Just Win Baby !!!
It looks like Al is finally kicking back, and letting the Coaches COACH !!!! But the overall Idea of what this team should be, has always been Big Al’s baby !!! Speed, speed, and more speed at all positions !!! We live or die with this motto. Right now, we’re living large !!! Keep on moving forward, and we’ll beb just fine !!!
Amen papa!
I had to watch the game at work in my pickup (which means no beer during the game-which sucks) and what amazed me was the fact that we put up 500+ yds again. During the Bronco game you knew we were hammering them,during this game we snuck up on everybody , including the fans. We kicked the shit out of what WAS the #2 ranked defense against the run yesterday. Noon’s right though, it was a 2 score game until the 4th Q and we kept hearing the “foot on the throat” deal but were kept waiting too long for it. When it did come it was so sweet. You know when I knew we were going to win? When Gallery got “old school” with Clemons , gave him the extra whack going out of bounds to piss him off (and it was intentional) and caused him to draw a penalty. Just like the old days kids! Attitude adjusment has now caused US to get the breaks and lucky bounces that have killed us the last 7 years,instead of our opponents. We must continue to play like a bunch of pirates- giving no quarter,showing no mercy in this next must win game against the Chiefs. Always proud to be a member of Raider Nation, today the sunrise is just a little nicer over the Rocky Mountains! R.F.F.R.
Field Marshall John and Action Jackson deserve the game ball. They have figured out
how to exploit the talent that Al has assembled and that Tom has developed and motivated. Hue and John showed their vision and guts in two straight games (after the hard lesson in SF). The Raiders are amazingly fast and athletic on both sides of the ball and are optimum when boldly set free to ruthlessly attack, pillage and plunder – that is the the Raider Style, Domination, so we haven’t ditched anything but have only come back to our roots – Pressure and Poise.
Thank, Noon, enjoyed your write-up very much.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
This game had as much to do with good coaching as
the niner game had to do with bad coaching. The difference has been night and day and I’ll take day anytime. As I said before I can handle the niner game if it provides the turning point we needed and it looks good so far… A complete domination of the Cheifs would go along way to erasing the now fading memory of the 49er fiasco.
WOOHOOO!!!!!
:=8D
My intense hatred of JASON MARQUIS keeps me warm and toasty at night. Believe!
:=8O
Oakland actually just matched their biggest margin of victory in a two game span.
The only other time was in 1967 when they outscored opponents 99-24. This is unbelievable. I am as happy as I have been in a long time.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
I can't believe they've done this before!
Good lookin’ out TAW.
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 1, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Definitely out for Sunday from what I saw threw the bino's. Jeremy Ware will have a great opportunity
when Charlie Weis game plans to exploit him – but our return to pressure-cooker Defense should allow Ware ample opportunity to pick Cassell and enter the lists of rookies on the map!
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions
As someone that's sprained his ankles dozens of times....
It’s very possible that he will be fine by Sunday. I’m remaining optimistic that they just pulled him from the game as a precationary measure because they simply didn’t need him in there at that point.
by TexasRaider20 on Nov 1, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Quoted from ESPN
ESPN’s Adam Schefter is reporting that Oakland star cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha may have averted a serious injury.
Schefter is reporting, according to a source, Asomugha does not believe the ankle sprain he suffered late in Oakland’s 33-3 win over Seattle is serious. Asomugha will have an MRI performed on the ankle on Monday to determine the extent of the injury.
Initially there was concern that injury was serious. Asomugha couldn’t put pressure on his foot and needed to be helped off the field.
The Raiders will need Asomugha in a crucial AFC West game against division-leading Kansas City on Sunday. The Chiefs are 5-2 and the Raiders are 4-4.
by TexasRaider20 on Nov 1, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Ive had that same injury myself and
if it’s not broken(and it’s not) he could be back in a week. those injuries hurt like hell but usually don’t do much damage. Hopefully all he needs is a good tape job.
I would sit him out this week.
I never thought I would be saying this after Week 1 but we can beat the queefs without him. I say let him sit out this week and next just to be on the safe side. Ankle sprains are just as bad as breaks since those are the types of injuries that are chronic if the patient returns too quickly.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
by TAW on Nov 1, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Depends on the severity of the sprain
If needs to sit out, then by all means sit him out. Hopefully our pass rush won’t give Cassell time to think much less complete a pass.
I'm kinda with you.
Bye the following week, so that would be a solid 3 weeks to recover.
But he doesn’t have to practice to play on Sunday. If he’s good to go, keep your best player on the field.
by TexasRaider20 on Nov 1, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Doctor? This is a Raiders forum.
We bust heads…not fix them.
by TexasRaider20 on Nov 1, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm a healer!
I see you got a whole head, I can heal that!
"Just Win Baby" is not a philosophy, it is a way of life!
Not saying this guy should start at CB
But Huff did better than i thought he would at Nnamdi’s spot. Just putting that out there.
why is that?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
CB is Huff's natural position, IMO
He’s turning into a great safety, but we’re wasting his man-to-man coverage ability at safety. If we’re without Nnamdi this week, I’m all for using Huff to replace him then rotating Stevie Brown or Mikey Mitch to his safety position. One thing I’m very happy with is our depth in the secondary.
To beat the Queefs we’re going to have to stack the box to stuff their NFL best rushing attack. We need someone physical on Bowe, who’s their only down the field receiving threat. I say iso Huff on Bowe, and Mitchell on Moeaki, and we’re set up to succeed. Our DL needs to be lights out again this week…
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Nov 1, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Steve Brown at FS to replace Huff.
Huff can move over to corner and Ware can play lots of nickel. I believe Chris Johnson should be back as well. Mitchell is best at his rover\ LB\ quarter DB position where is free to roam and should be able to contain Moeaki or blitz. Also having Ware and Huff swap positions should open up lots of nickel blitz looks from Huff. This is fun talking about the kc game finally.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
I gotta be honest
I’m still not sold on Huff. yes he has come a ways and yes he has made some plays but I am still not sold. Nnamdi has done waaaaay more and done much more! granted he’s not the breakout that Woodson was his rookie year but he is solid and dependable and I still am just not feeling that from Huff. Possibly I’m wrong but I still dont think hes worth all the money and hoopla about him from his draft.
"Just Win Baby" is not a philosophy, it is a way of life!
+1
Again, not numbers that will blow you away, but SOLID. 15-27-310-2-0.
I’m not going to lie. I would have liked to see a higher % against the SEA pass D, but I’ll happily take 310-2-0 every week.
by TexasRaider20 on Nov 1, 2010 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I think those stats are better than solid.
I’ve been hating on him but seriously he was outstanding yesterday. He threw a strike to Reece on the TD and if not for a ball bouncing off Nick Miller’s chest and DHB dropping another his stats would have been even better. Just keep doing what you’re doing Son of JA!
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
by TAW on Nov 1, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, he hasn’t been picked off these last two games. He’s making smarter decisions than he was earlier this season.
by Daemon Chadeau on Nov 1, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
That pass to Miller
was fantastic. That’s two weeks in a row he’s thrown a great pass to Nick. Too bad he didn’t catch it this time.
RIGHT HERE
With him we have beat 2 rivals and a division leader. All of which we have dominated . Seriously, the argument we play better as a team with Bruce is a dead argument now. What argument is there to go with Bruce or Boller? Is there any right now? JC is clearly the best passer and were dominating teams right now.
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
The winning is Great but it probably has more to do with coaching mindset than a single position
I’m pretty sure Grad could make all the plays( including the batted down passes ) that Campbell has made. That said, I’m not sure I mess with a good thing and insert Grad back in the line up when healthy. Truth is you do need two competent QB’s on an NFL roster to run the offense and we’re lucky to have that. Whomever starts winning is all that matters.
Bruce is good for 1 pick a game
And the throw to DHB ad the Reece slant I cant see Bruce making at all.
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
You have to be kidding
that bullet to Reece Bruce doesn’t have the arm to put that ball there. Plus our top 2 WR’s were out Miller and Murphy. DHB had over 100 What does JC have to do to get you guys over the Steelers game from last year.
You are right about the DHB throw,
but the Reece throw Campbell hesitates. It didn’t need to be that close. That is exactly the reason why the coaches like Grad. Now JC is showing some things that Grad can’t do, but that slant is not one of them.
Make that throw in rhythm and it is a much easier play. Reece had a little separation on Milloy and the LB wouldn’t be there yet.
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 1, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
That's chemistry we are talking about.
If I were to pick which guy has more chemistry: the guy who has been here for a couple years, vs. the guy who has only been here 7 games, I would pick the former.
But I can see that Campbell is developing this chemistry. He is winning the trust of his players.
Sometimes throwing just the slant won’t win you games. Sometimes it’s throwing the deep ball, sometimes dumping it off, sometimes running it. So far, Campbell is doing things smart, and that’s a plus over reckless play that Grad has been doing ever since after the rams game(and that’s how he plays, but I wished Grad made smarter decisions).
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
He fit in a hellu tight hole
What more do you want from him? And if he would have thrown it earlier Milloy would have still been coming up thus letting him make a tackle . Its as good as a pass will get
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
That was a difficult and PERFECT throw, yes sir
as was the slant to Reese.
Both passes showed extreme guts, determination, and chutzpah as well.
Well, on that play, I just would want him to throw it in rhythm
Are you trying to tell me that Campbell waited so that milloy and the LB would lunge into each other and allow Reece to score? That’s crazy. It was a tight hole, but it didn’t need to be.
That’s the point and that’s the difference between the two. Campbell has improved in this offense…to that there is no doubt, but he and Bruce have different strengths.
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 1, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Coaching to those varied strengths is key
and I think Hue “Wolverine” Jackson has hit his stride with this offense. As pissed as I was after the niner game I’m starting to feel a lot better about this offense and the man who runs it. Game Ball Hue
He didnt plan it like that
But if it was thrown earlier it wouldnt have been a TD, you couldnt ask for anything else
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
You know whats funny
The main Bruce guys haven’t said a word in the past 2 weeks. When Bruce came in the Rams game I gave him love. I guess because JC doesn’t have that old Raider swagger at QB people don’t like him. I could care less about that crap JC and this Running game have been on top of thing the past 2 weeks. I don’t care about making the playoffs right now I just want the team to keep playing with HEART like they shown us lately. I have to show love to the Coaching staff they have stepped up there game up.
I have to admit
I like Grad better but I have to give JC credit he has been playing well and whatever Hue said to him has definately paid off! But then I wasn’t sold on Gannon over Jeff George. and we all know how that turned out! so I say as long as JC keeps playing well keep him in there! he’s got the big arm that Al likes and hes getting comfortable with the offence I think he can get the job done!
"Just Win Baby" is not a philosophy, it is a way of life!
jc
no picks. smart decisions. moved well in the pocket. cant ask for much more.
by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Nov 1, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah yes, I thought it was by JC's best game.
He showed good pocket awareness and made some good throws. The throw to DHB on his TD was solid. That took arm strength to get it there before the safety closed. Good game for JC!
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 1, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
+1
Exactly I thought he threw it intelligently right behind DHB since DHB already beat his man and the safety was over the top of him and the underthrow caused the safety to whiff on the tackle cuz he wasnt expecting the throw to be there.
by word2bigbird on Nov 1, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Reece!
Big catches and big runs. He’s working his way into this group:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/409953-top-10-all-time-raider-running-backs
#5 on the list is still my favorite.
I’m loving what Reece is doing. Is there a better 3-deep set of backs in the NFL?
by TexasRaider20 on Nov 1, 2010 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Mike Sellers
is pretty nasty. not recently tho.
by word2bigbird on Nov 1, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Enjoyed watching the game before taking my kids out ..
Haven’t been able contribute much comment wise on this site cause my son (third son, and fourth child) was born on 10/10/10 (great day, my son was born in the morning and I was able to watch the Raiders snap the streak against the Chargers in the afternoon). The Raiders look like a different team. It’s funny, two weeks ago I was going over the power rankings on ESPN when I saw the last time the Raiders were 4-4 was in 2002. This isn’t the same team by any means, but who’s to say we can’t have another year like that? We’re in control of our own destiny, let’s hope this team will continue it’s winning ways.
Hardcore Raiders Fans are 5150 .. (iBleedSilverNBlack)
"It's ours for the taking."
by RaiderCreator5150 on Nov 1, 2010 7:46 AM PDT reply actions
Damn the Bills.
They are in every game, yet find a way to lose every game. That could have helped a lot.
I know some want to enjoy the win and not look ahead. I’m not one of them. I’m excited and this is a HUGE game. The outcome of this one could very well determine whether or not the Raiders go to the playoffs.
Yes, I said PLAYOFFS!
A win on Sunday would place us tied for wins in the division and a commanding 3-0 in divisional play. I can already feel the adrenaline flowing just thinking about it.
I'm happy they are coming in after a win.
A false sense of confidence instead of having their heads hung low after a bad loss is best in my opinion. That means they will think they have us right where they want us but I really think this is going to be a blow out. Seven straight losses to kc in Oakland should be all the motivation this team needs. Being 5-4 with a 1/2 game out of 1st heading into a bye is even greater.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
by TAW on Nov 1, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
What needs to be pointed out is the fact that JC is taking care of the ball
No int’s these pass two games. Which means our D doesn’t get screwed with bad field positions.
Also JC is averaging 120 QB rating in all three of his victories. Kinda stud muffin-ish.
BTW our D-line is sexy. Just not as much as Sexy Rex Grossman.
He went off yesterday
Last two weeks with him at QB we have blown out teams, and have combined for more then 80 points. DAMN.
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Notes
- 940, 59.8%, 6 TD, 2 INT, 95.4 QB RAT , JC’s numbers when ignoring the SF game. Thats cheating but still
- Jason Campbell QB rating 82.5, Donovan McNabb 76.0
- Raiders have more yards then the Saints so far
- 135 yards from scrimmage LOWERED DMC’s average
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
I guess People would rather lose with Bruce
Than win with JC. Bruce got his chance and guess what he got hurt no surprize right. JC isn’t making all the right calls or throws but he is clearly better than Bruce.
I doubt we see Bruce
till the Pittsburgh game at the earliest.
we never retreat we always ATTACK!!!
by transparent58 on Nov 1, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
It's all and fine to prefer JC over Grad
But Grad saved us in the Rams game, and nobody can argue that. We haven’t won these two games because of JC’s amazing throws. Guys have been wide open for a change, and it’s mostly people like McFadden, Reece, Bush and Miller blowing these games open. JC is simply managing.
I didn’t hear this outpouring of support for Jason after Rams or Niners games. Are we really going to give JC all the credit for these last two games?
its def not going to Bruce
who seems to get this unconditional support no matter whats happens
by word2bigbird on Nov 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
JC has been solid, but I don't think anyone is giving him all the credit.
He is getting hte credit he is due. He didn’t win the game for us, but he did do HIS job. And that’s enough.
by TexasRaider20 on Nov 1, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
He does get the credit for SD, Denver, and Seattle
But he also had to take his lumps for St. Louis, Tenn, and SF.
Well according to you
Bruce shouldnt be blamed for the Houston game but JC should be blamed for the Tenn game? when the D gave up that many points?
by word2bigbird on Nov 1, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
You're honestly going to compare those two games?
Because Houston was winnable with some help from the defense. Tenn wasn’t even close. Grad kept us in the Houston game to the very end. Can you say the same about JC against the TItans?
doesnt matter
you should still hold Grad accountable for the ints in the game…shouldnt you? or is he infallible?
by word2bigbird on Nov 1, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
We should give him some credit.
Statistics show that you won’t win games if you don’t have a QB playing well for you. I think this article helps with that: http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_3358_Statistical_secrets_of_NFL%27s_great_winners%3A_Starr%2C_Graham%2C_Brady.html
But yes. Give him credit. YOu don’t complete well over half your passes for over 300 yards and two TDs out of thin air.
We are not, by any means, discounting what Bruce has done for us in the Rams game. But that was how many weeks ago? The truth is, he is hurt now, and Campbell is providing us with wins now.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Well.. he completed just above half it looks like.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Michelle Y gives him all the credit.
I love that her feelings are hurt if anyone prefers Bruce.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
People have their preferences
But its kinda ridiculous to base it off feelings and whatnot. Just go with whom ever is getting the wins.
by word2bigbird on Nov 1, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree whole-heartedly.
In fact, if JC has the hot hand, ride him until he doesn’t.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Well Musty 23. I said JC let us down I said neither one of these QB’s are ready to lead us by passing alone. I am simply saying no one gives JC his dues its he manged the game. He had 300 yards his starting TE out and #1WR’s out.
LOL on the Musty!
I think you’re being too sensitive. I think he’s getting plenty of credit but it seems like you need him annointed Jesus. You aren’t going to get that until he becomes Jesus. You seem to be going out of your way to snipe at the Bruce folks. Perhaps you don’t mean it that way, but it seems like it.
Think about this though, the Coaches still say that Bruce is the starter when he is healthy? Why is that?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
The coach made his decision to start Bruce.
The same goes for Andy Reid and Kevin Kolb in Philly. You can’t flip-flop on those decisions and its understandable. However I am a Bruce guy but this team is playing soooo good right now I would go with the hot hand. An example where this back-fired is when kc had Rich Gannon start after Elvis Grbac who they paid all this money to and start got hurt. Rich won I believe 9 out of 10 games and the team got home field advantage with him. Shittenheimer decided to go back to Elvis in the playoffs and they lost to the Donks. I say Jason has done enough to win back the job and not only that but most importantly the team is playing better as it has in years so don’t mess with a good thing.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
by TAW on Nov 1, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
So Cable's just being obstinate?
I don’t think that’s the case. Personally, I think he’s a guy that needs to be pushed. They’ve opened the playbook with him now because he finally has a grasp of it. (That sentence could be interpreted as a question too.) His benching forced him to get his noggin into that playbook. That’s something he should have been working on since April, right?
I agree for now that you go with the hot hand but let’s see how he does when the D doesn’t come out and control the game. Let’s see what happens when we’re behind and he needs to keep it together and really be a leader before he’s annointed the most Holy one.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
dont make an assumption
it was reported everyday that JC was the first at practice and the last to leave. so dont be like that.
Let me throw this out there for you too.
Ever managed anyone? I’ve had a lot of people working for me that would get in early and stay late because that was what they thought mattered. Many of them ended up being let go becuase they were at work but sucked. What matters is preparation and execution of your goals in business and sports.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Uhh
we’re not talking about Jesus. who is this JC character then?
by word2bigbird on Nov 1, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why is that? Because J's insecurity is what prevents him from being a lot better
the Coaches still say that Bruce is the starter when he is healthy? Why is that?
Cable is doing Campbell a big favor by telling the media that Grad is the starter, that way J doesn’t have the extra tension of being a starter who gets demoted again when he chokes big-time. Not that he will choke, necessarily; but guys who lack confidence do so because they have a history of choking.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
JC saved us in the SD game
And blowed 2 teams out , no denying that, and Bruce didnt really “save us” , he helped but the defense did the job against the Rams
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Reality
The reality of the situation is that JC is putting up mediocrity, and the running game is exploding. Running game explodes, time of possession goes up. Time of possession goes up, opposing D gets tired. Opposing D gets tired, stacks the box, passing game opens up. JC looks better. End of the day, when things are going well, JC does ok. Things go bad, JC starts to slide.
I wouldn't go with mediocre, so much as average.
And if the running game and defense is good, they only have to be average through the air.
Ask the Ravens.
by TexasRaider20 on Nov 1, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
95 QB rating, 6 TD's - 2 INTS and 60% passing isnt mediocrity
If you include the niner game he still is playing better than McNabb
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"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Gold Standard?
Firstly, I’m a big fan of Donovan McNabb. Having said that, I’m not certain McNabb in Washington is much of a gold standard at this point. McNabb right now is making chicken shit into chicken salad with what he has been given, and with what he has, he’s doing a better job than anyone expected. What I see wrong with Campbell is that when games are going well (Denver, Seattle) he does very well. When games go south (Tennessee, SF), he tends to follow suit. The biggest problem with box scores is that some information is left out. I think Campbell is awesome as a back up. So is Gradkowski. Gradkowski is just a little better as a starter.
does he follow suit or is it a result of a bad collective effort
And why is it that when he plays good we kill it? Cause hes big part of our success . And the f is Bruce better, give me 3 valid reasons that aare definitive . No he brings fire BS
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"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
fire notwithstanding,
Gradkowski is a better QB when the world is crashing down around him, and although our O-line has improved of late, they are still sketchy. Gradkowski is more prone to go through all his progressions instead of dumping the ball off at the first sign of trouble. Lastly, Gradkowski is a better leader. Even Campbell will admit he isn’t a terribly vocal guy, and unfortunately a QB needs to be. All in all, the reason we kill it when he plays well, is that he plays well when the team plays well. At the end of the day, I’d bet my last dollar even the crappiest NFL head coach or OC (not a jab at Cable or Jackson, settle down kids) knows one hell of alot more about football than I do, or anyone else posting here (unless one of you is secretly John Madden), and I have to trust there’s a reason Gradkowski is still the starter. As we all saw in the oft mentioned Tom Brady/Drew Bledsoe episode.
the red guy may have just made the most definitive explanation of Cable's decision.
The Rams game was lost had he not made the move to Gradkowski. He kept us in the Texans game when we thought they were going to blow us out. He came back into the game after the brutal blow and threw another TD and led us to a field goal as well. He beat Cincinnati when they were 2 TD favorites and we all know about Pitt. He is a football version of a gym rat. He is a student of the game and he is a vocal leader. I think Cable and Jackson see him as an extension of themselves on the field where Campbell is a very good player who happens to play QB. However Campbell did lead us to 2 TDs in the comeback against SD when we all thought it was over and other than the SF game where he played like shit but so did our run D he has turned it around and the way this team plays all they need is a QB who is a game manager, not a gun-slinger.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
by TAW on Nov 2, 2010 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions
the STL was far from lost
and I dont care about last years game, that was the JR era. Seriously get off his nuts about Pitt last year
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"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
What game were you watching?
We weren’t doing anything that first half and it could have been much worse had Gradkowski not got the offense into a rhythm. The defense played better because they weren’t on the field because the offense was sustaining drives.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
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by TAW on Nov 2, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think that they would rather lose with Bruce.
I just think Bruce is easier to rally behind. People pull for the underdog. Bruce is the underdog. JC is the better QB.
Yea but its getting kind of annoying
its very childish/selfish to say Bruce has heart and blah blah blah when JC has won 3 games this year. I dont care much for the intangibles at this point. I just want results. and whomever gives them to me is the one i am going with. it seems Cable is too loyal to Bruce. people need to stop living in the past.
Bruce is great and all but I am enjoying blowing people out too much. Btw teams now have to game plan for the deep ball b/c of JC’s arm and the o-line protecting which opens everything up.
Exactly, the whole team is playing better overall as the red guy stated above
Grad got hurt because the o line sucked, now their starting to solidify and Campbell is benefiting from it. Campbell sucked as well when the line was weak.There is a belief that a player shouldn’t lose his job to injury. I think Cable is sticking to that and also trying to avoid a QB controversy in the media. Cable might well want to stick with Campbell but he doesn’t want the media hassle
Grads injury really came when he refused to slide and got layed the F out
Not cause of the line let a DL in
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"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Dude
He got sacked by Phillips. Let’s not forget, Campbell got laid out in the pre-season as well, thanks to a certain lineman.
That reinjured it
ut he really hurt it when he got laid out by that safety
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"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Well I guess NE was stupid
Because Tom won them 3 super Bowls. Yeah
No
He’s apparently suggesting the Pat’s line was as bad as ours, us being tied for 3rd in sacks given up.
The better analogy would be Drew Bledsoe and when he hurt his sternum which lead to Tom Brady becoming the starter.
The rest of which is history.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
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by TAW on Nov 2, 2010 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I think that WAS the analogy Micheal was using.
That said, both Micheal and Papabegood have used that anology. I laugh at it because in no way shape or form is Jason Campbell ever going to be Tom Brady.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
no it's not.
If he keeps getting injured behind our OL, why keep starting him?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Under that reasoning
We should just tell Grad he’s not tough enough for the NFL, and should take up coaching instead, despite the fact that he rescued us two seasons in a row.
he rescued us? By playing in two full games?
If he keeps getting injured, and the next guy up is doing just as good and not getting injured, why start him?
Grad is tough, but he seems to be injury prone. JC played great these past two games, and I wouldn’t bench him if he keeps playing this way.
And even then,
Grad got hurt because the o line sucked
It’s not entirely true. Like I said, Grad is reckless. Being reckless will mean getting hit, and getting hit, will mean that there is a chance that he’ll get inured again. Until Campbell starts to suck again, I don’t want to put Grad in, and get himself injured again.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Grad also got hurt because he is reckless.
If you have a bad knee, why the hell would you try and RUN around, when defenders are around you, instead of taking a sack? I know why, he wants to make a play, but that’s not the point.
The point is, is that he got hurt not just because the OL stunk, but because he was ALWAYS trying to make plays. He is reckless in nature, and he pays the price.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Yeah, but dude
He wouldn’t have to do all that scrambling, be so reckless if he had a line that gave him some time.
He can take the sack, or throw the ball away.
It doesn’t matter though. He plays recklessly, and by doing that, he will be susceptible to more injuries.
It is not coincidence that most Mobile QBs get injured more often than pocket ones, and get hit THE most often.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
People pulled for Bruce and I was one of them up until this week.
We all said Campbell needed to win the game with his arm, not that we needed it but he did anyway. Right now we go with the hot hand. This team is playing too good to mess with it. Until Campbell loses the job its his now.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
by TAW on Nov 1, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
If people rally behind bruce much easier
and bruce gets injured, isn’t that like a kick in the face for the players(in a way)?
We all love bruce, but he doesn’t seem like he can control his own actions on the field, whether he rolls out and wildly throws it, or just rolls out, and tries to make a move or two to try and get away from a defender.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Consider
If the defense had played against Houston like it did against the Broncos and Seahawks. That would have been another win. And who knows what would have happened if Grad had started against the Titans? We’ll never know because he had the starting job, which was well earned last year, taken away from him without good cause.
Exactly. We'll never know.
So we have to take what we are seeing here. And we are seeing that Campbell is leading, and producing for this team.
Enough said.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
For now
And if he has another game like SF? Let’s be honest here, thought only real frame of reference we have here is the Rams game where they could be compared equally. I mean, Cassel was playing pretty well in Brady’s absence, but would anybody have considered just giving the starting job because of it? Not a good comparison, but the principle remains the same, does it not?
I mean, Cassel was playing pretty well in Brady’s absence, but would anybody have considered just giving the starting job because of it?
Actually, some stupid pats fans that year were all like: “Trade Brady! This team does well with Cassel already! And he is younger!” So yeah….
ANyways:
And if he has another game like SF? Let’s be honest here, thought only real frame of reference we have here is the Rams game where they could be compared equally.
I said we should be looking at what we’re seeing NOW. I never said he would continue to play like this. We don’t know. What we DO know is, is that Campbell is PRODUCING for the past TWO WEEKS IN A ROW. That’s the first step in trying to be consistent. I hope he can be consistent next week as well(of course, if he has another great week, will you discount it as well?).
The rams game? The one that Grad had his best game, and Campbell had his second worst game? Not a fair comparison. The Campbell of now, looks different from the campbell of then.
What we are seeing now, is a QB being efficient.
Not a good comparison, but the principle remains the same, does it not?
No it doesn’t. Your assuming that we would have a QB controversy in 2009? Um… no.
Now, after Campbell played well in Denver, everyone here is asking: “would he play like that again?” and he did. He played great. He showed pocket presence, and led the team down the field. Whats more important, is that he was smart, and careful in his throws.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Yeah
I get the whole “if it ain’t broken don’t fix it thing”. But there’s got to be a system for who’s the starting quarterback, and not switching from week to week on a whim. I mean honestly, you can only see this from Campbell’s perspective, not Grad’s at all? If he is going to be benched every time he gets hurt then we may as well just trade him. There’s no point in making him sit on the bench when he consistently pulls our fat out of the fire. He could be a starter somewhere else if the Raiders really don’t want him.
But there’s got to be a system for who’s the starting quarterback, and not switching from week to week on a whim.
Why do you think they did that? It’s because they bench the guy who is not doing well. They kept doing that, until one of them solidifies. Has Campbell solidified? We’ll have to see next week.
I mean honestly, you can only see this from Campbell’s perspective, not Grad’s at all? If he is going to be benched every time he gets hurt then we may as well just trade him. There’s no point in making him sit on the bench when he consistently pulls our fat out of the fire. He could be a starter somewhere else if the Raiders really don’t want him.
When have you gotten the impression that Grad was benched SIMPLY because he was injured??? He was benched BECAUSE campbell is on fire right now. Was being injured a part of the decision? Probably yes. He keeps getting injured, Campbell is playing very well, Campbell is making smarter decisions at the moment, and not being reckless.
At this moment, our starter should be campbell. unless campbell starts to suck again, I see NO REASON why we should bench campbell, and start grad(and starting grad… I’ll be hoping he doesnt get injured again).
There’s no point in making him sit on the bench when he consistently pulls our fat out of the fire.
You mean the fire he put us into in the first place due to the INTs? Even though some were not his fault, but he throws a lot into double coverage. At this point in time, just go with whats working. Give campbell a chance to run the offense after how he performed the last two weeks. If he plays bad, then we’ll bench him. Simple as that.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
The guy is doing all he can to try to get the team wins
he was getting very little help from the rest of the team at the times he’s gotten hurt. Maybe if there had been a pocket to stay in Grad wouldn’t have gotten hurt at all. I’ll take a guy like that rather than a guy that just goes down and takes a sack or throws it out of bounds. That IS why people get behind Grad. When Rothesberger does it nobody says anything, he’s just doing his best for the team
some thoughts.
We have FINALLY won consecutive games! We have consecutively put up great offensive numbers, Campbell consecutively had great games, McFadden, hell… they played like a TEAM for consecutive games.
This was what I wanted. Consistency. So far…. so good.
DHB looked great yesterday. I laugh at those who already said he sucks, and shouldn’t play(I just found it funny). He played great yesterday, but I hope he can be CONSISTENT and play good next week.
Reece may very well be the best receiving FB in the game. Don’t know how great his blocking is, but he MAY just be the best offensive FB as well. He reminds me of a MUCH more polished Heath Evans, besides the blocking(unless he is great at it).
Campbell played great. Like I said last week, our OL does have the skill to give him enough time. Campbell, I also noticed n the nfl replay, is that he looked as if he was creating plays as well. Like a certain someone named Grad did when he was starting. I like what I’m seeing from Campbell, and hope he doesn’t disappoint.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Nnam is injured?? NOOO!!!!!!!!!
also, I’m glad I didn;t see any breakdowns on run defense. Thank you guys for that. McClain looked solid.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Huff looked solid at DB when subing in for Nnam.
Huff lookes great at DB other than that great throw catch after Nanm went down on the next play. Huff should play more nickel DB has speed and is able to disrupt at the LOS when playing man 2 man as they showed on one of the plays disrupted that quick slant at the LOS.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
The Raiders simply "look" different.
I told my brother just a few minutes in that 17 points would be enough because I did not see Seattle scoring too many points. The defense has taken a lot of pressure off the offense (and dare we say, vice versa?). It’s been fun to watch. Next week’s game better be a sellout.
I'm here to talk about the past.
+1000....
This team just looks different right now…this is nto the team that we have been trotting out there the past few years…the two deflection pass to Bush for 55 yards would have been an interception last year…the interception by Branch would have been a reception by the opponent last year…The team looks way more confident and they are playing like they think that they are going to win! I cannot agree more but next week better be a sellout against the Chiefs!!
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Nov 1, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Winners make their breaks
losers make excuses. Those kinds of bounces always seem to go to the team that is playing better and in our case yesterday, playing harder and making their own opportunities. Such a change than in the past few years where those plays would kill us and the team would get down. Loving the attitude lately, keep it up Raiders.
You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
Great point
Tyvon doesn’t get an opportunity to make that pick if Routt doesn’t deflect it. And Bush doesn’t get that catch if he isn’t hustling. These breaks are happening, because the entire Raiders team is playing with a focused intensity. You make your own luck.
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by Rich Langford on Nov 1, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I think a game saver was a takle by Shane Lechler
when he just was able to push leon out of bounds if he hadnt done that it would of have gone for a touchdown and the momentum of the game would have changed as well as the outcome.
by americaneagle510 on Nov 1, 2010 10:06 AM PDT reply actions
I noticed that too
and how bout the blocking by JC on one of the end-around plays?!
Got to love a QB who gets out there in space and delivers some hits!
That was awesome !!
I was pretty down on Campbell after the Niners game and maybe I was wrong well see.
The D was amazing 8 sacks constant pressure and no letting up (keep the knee on their necks) our run game looks great and we had a couple huge plays go our way . Nice win !
GO RAIDERS!!!! I voted for the interception as my fav but the Bey td was awesome and the immaculent Bush was cool too!
Bongsmoke
Who would have thought that "bigger, faster, and stronger" would actually start to work?
I know we all hate Josh McDaniels for many reasons, but right now I could kiss that guy right on the mouth. For the entire week leading up to the Broncos game all McDaniels could do was talk about how big and fast and strong the Raiders were and how they create so many matchup problems for teams on both sides of the ball.
Of course, we’ve heard it all before about how the Raiders are the best looking team in the NFL “getting off the bus.” But all of a sudden, the bigger/faster/stronger stuff looks like its starting to work. And more importantly, the team is starting to believe it.
The most obvious example this week was Marcel Reece. You’d be hard pressed to find a FB in this league who is faster than Reece…ever. I’ve been excited to see this type of play from Reece ever since the Raiders brought him in as an UDFA from Washington for the exact reason you saw on the field today – ridiculous athletes who are also good football players (important distinction) wreck havoc on opposing teams.
In other thoughts:
- Seahawks fans must know what it feels like to watch the Raiders on defense all of a sudden. Darren McFadden’s first 12 carries only generated 29 yards, but his last 9 carries went for 82 yards. Pete Carroll properly described it that the Seahawks’ defense was unable to stop the big plays. I guess any defense that’s on the field for 36 minutes is going to have a bad 2nd half. Still, the run defense that came into the game ranked 2nd is now ranked 10th. Told you so :)
- The Raiders are ranked 8th in total offense (2nd rushing/20th passing), 2nd in scoring offense (thank you 92 points last two games), and 9th in total defense (26th rushing/4th passing). If the Raiders can continue to stop the run the way they did yesterday things are definitely looking up for this team.
- Campbell of Gradkowski: I understand that Coaches Cable and Jackson like Gradkowski’s gunslinger attitude, but how do you bench a guy whose gone 27/47, 4 TDs, 0 INT, 514 yards the last two weeks? Campbell should start next week.
- Bring on the Chiefs: A lot of my nervousness about the Raiders continuing to be wildly inconsistent has subsided. If the team is once again able to amp itself up for a game against the division-leading Chiefs, I’m not sure the Chiefs are going to know what hit them.
"You call it, I'll haul it." - Michael Bush
You were right on the money LiveAdam.
I did say Campbell had to complete some big plays to win it and while he did, the defense took the pressure off him and he didn’t need to anyway. However all those pass plays did take a toll as you noticed they started grinding the seachicks out until the O-line just started wearing them out. Also give Cable and Jackson a lot of credit for not abandoning the run. They know what their meal ticket is. This is setting up one HUGE game against kc.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
Haven't they already suggested that Bruce would regain his starting job once healthy?
I;m ok with either QB, but I agree with the majority of you here that it is best not to screw around with the good thing we have going currently.
And what is the staus of Zach Miller—our other top player now injured?
The biggest difference on offense that has helped Campbell
in helping his passing game is that he is beginning to trust and believe in his blind side the LT position DE are no longer getting free passes to the QB i would rather take FS from a rookie than gettign quotes that state form a 3yr veteran i know how important the LT posiiton is to the QB.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
I'd like to see some game film on the O-line from these past two weeks.
Many talk smack about being quick to give blame to Al when the shit hits the fan but what about Cable? He is the guru of this line and with a 3rd rd pick starting at LT and at times moving over to C along with a castoff from Buffalo at RT and yet they are just killing defensive fronts. Thank you Cable Guy for making the NFL season fun again this late in the year!
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
3rd round Div II rookie killing offenisve line.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
by 818Raiderguy on Nov 1, 2010 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
How do you bench a guy whose gone 27/47, 4 TDs, 0 INT, 514 yards the last two weeks?
Easy, because despite our defense playing out-of-this-world, the lead was 13 points going into the 4th, with the game still in doubt.
Gradkowski knows what it means to be “open” in the NFL. He delivers the ball on time and without hesitation. He throws the occasional INT because he is willing to throw over the middle.
JC doesn’t throw picks because he doesn’t take ANY chances. To understand JC, just look at his play in the red zone. The guy NEVER throws the ball into the end zone (unless you count out of the back of the end zone). And despite his vaunted arm strength, he continues to throw lofted balls off his back foot. His deep balls have too much arc and invariably drift out of bounds.
Don’t get me wrong. We are fortunate to have JC coming off the bench. But by a wide margin, Gradkowski is superior at reading, adjusting and making plays.
by beyondoubt on Nov 1, 2010 10:36 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Gradkowski is superior at reading, adjusting and making plays.
Then why is his % so low, throws so many picks and often throws into double coverage?
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
To be honest, I don't really want him taking a lot of chances.
And with our defense playing as it is now, he doesn’t have to. All I ask of Campbell is not to beat us with mistakes. Anything else is gravy. Last two weeks, we’ve had a lot of gravy.
I'm here to talk about the past.
Yes but if Campbell had any touch on a sideline pass or corner of the end zone pass there would be another weapon
that, you could say, is fairly safe
LLOOL
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
He delivers the ball on time and without hesitation. He throws the occasional INT because he is willing to throw over the middle
I count fitting in the Marcel pass throw a donught hole on a slant over the middle and JC’s pass are on time as well.
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
2 weeks of total domination from the Raiders: Here's to the bullied becoming the ultimate bully.
For the past 2 weeks, the best part was watching both the O & D lines dominate. Crushing the run on D and running over fools on O has been stunning. With an decent offensive line and a suddenly amazing and tough running back in McFadden, Campbell looks pretty good. It is obvious from the 9er game, that this team’s identity is being forged of an aggressive team that struggles when told to play down. We’ve one 3 of the past four games by pressing on both sides of the ball and the coaching staff looks like they have figured out how to finally put guys in position to win and dominate the one-on-one matchups they were built to play. Now bring us a winner and BEAT THE CHEIFS!
P.s. I would also like to personally thank the Raiders for finally seeing one of my teams crush a Pete Carroll team…added bonus to a sweet win.
You see a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.
+100000000000000
Love seeing pete carroll lose. If my bruins can’t do it love to see my raiders crush him.
This was a signature win
I didn’t think that of the Denver game, because it was set up by the early turnovers and scores that it was out of reach immediately, by variables that are out of one’s control, but this was a win that was ground out methodically.
The defense showed what it is capable of, although it is young and green enough that I don’t expect that every week. The offense (FINALLY) had a consistent scheme and attack, using the strength of that side, and limiting the weaknesses. I give kudos to both Marshall and Jackson, who have struggled to put it together with their respective units.
The offense was moving the ball more than scoring early, but were able to grind down the defense and put it away late. That is the sign, to me, that it is maturing, and that the scheme is right. The OL is not being put into poor positions, and the running game is being successful, setting up the passing game.
I really liked the look of this game. It makes me say, with confidence, that the string of double-digit loss seasons will end this year, as have a number of other bad streaks.
Failure builds character; success reveals it
This a game that everything went our way and should have been put away earlier.
Our redzone offense is killing us. Thank god for that dropped ball by Mike Willaims and two missed field goals it couldve been a different outcome.
Anyone can be a fan of a winning team, supporting your team when its down is what makes you a true honest fan.
the outcome of 33-16?
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
by patriotguy2 on Nov 1, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great point patguy
Those plays would’ve made a difference, but not in the end. The offense was wearing the defense down, it was only a matter of time.
It would’ve been nice for the Raiders to put them away earlier, let us not forget that the Seahawks have a solid defense and they have been very solid in the redzone.
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 1, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
This is the difference between right now and last year is that last year we probably lose this game...
We seem to have the “it” factor right now and we need to keep riding with it…
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
by wacchampions on Nov 1, 2010 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Surely we got some breaks (about time too!)
But feel free to nitpick over a 33-3 win. I’d much rather enjoy it.
I'm here to talk about the past.
Did anyone catch that Raiders-Chiefs special on SNF last night?
I’ve been trying to find a video of it to post here. Anyways it was basically a halftime special that talked about the Raiders – Chiefs rivalry of old and how it could finally be back seeing as both teams are playing well. It was like th NFL was waiting fo us to come back and just had the video on standby. I almost teared up a bit.
Cable Bumaye! Raiders Bumaye!
You know what that tells me?
Our Week 17 game in KC might be a candidate to get flexed to primetime if things continue as they are now. Can you imagine how insane that would be, especially if it was for the AFC West title. But I’m getting way ahead of myself. Let’s get a win against KC in our house first.
by Raider Since Schroeder on Nov 1, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That would be exciting.
But I’m hoping to have the West wrapped up by then.
by TexasRaider20 on Nov 1, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Game ball to the whole team
We finally broke that ef-in can’t-win-two-games-in-row curse!
Anything is possible now.
Break on through to the other side, baby!
JC
I have time for JC. Yes he is conservative (doesn’t want to take the extra risk in a pick and put the team in hole), fine; he’s not the quickest out of the backfield, ok; doesn’t scream at everyone, yap. But he can stand in that pocket and let it go. When you hit a DHB 70 years, it demoralises the other team. The man QB 500 yrds back to back games. The main difference as other mentioned is yes, running game AND not mentioned, Gallery settling the OL. We’re simply a different team with Gallery pounding and protecting. JC needs that extra second and he’s getting it. He’s getting to be a perfect QB for the way AD wants the raiders to play. Deep ball, stretch the field, limit the turnovers. 120 QB ratings puts him in the top 10; he’s doing it back to back. Not an attack on Bruce but JC was missing the team’s top 2 WRs and still delivered. Maybe JC could have done even better with those 2 guys out. We have to support JC going in against KC. He’s a solid QB when healthy.
Of course, I support Campbell when he's in and Grad when he's in
it’s a tough call deciding who the starter will be when Bruce comes back from his injury. That’s Cables call. It is going to be a few weeks til that decision needs to be made and Cable is not going to let on any thought he has. He’s going to stick with "the guy named the starter will be the starter when he’s healthy. When Bruce comes back then they’ll have to do some “it’s best for the team” talk if they want to leave Campbell as the starter. The last thing Cable wants is a media fueled QB controversy that might distract his team.
Bruce,
we all like him. desire is unreproachable. JC is simply getting it done without turnovers. He also has more upside. I can’t see benching JC if he continues to play at this level, particularly if we beat KC. It’s got to be his to lose.
by raiders4liffe on Nov 2, 2010 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Sell out
With the biggest game in the last 7 years coming up, and the Raiders playing out of their minds, there are no more excuses — we must sell out the Coliseum against the Chiefs.
Right on.
I’ve already got my tickets and I’m spreading the word myself.
by Raider Since Schroeder on Nov 1, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
First play after Branch's INT
we could have easily went conservative to kill some clock (even with 13 min + change). Instead a 69-yard TD to DHB. That’s the kind of step-on-their-neck-and-keep-it-there style that has been sorely missing since Gruden and Gannon were here.
I'm here to talk about the past.
Word.
The Raiders are all swagger & killer instinct right now.
With the Chiefs in Oakland, it’s time to smack ’em in the jaw & show them who runs the AFC West.
Raider Nation — we need to show up on Sunday in a mind-altered frenzy, ready for blood.
Why does the mind have to be altered?
How about a clear headed, focused and ready for the kill?
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
if blood-lusting frenzy isn't your normal game state then, indeed, mind-altering is necessary
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
ON A SIDE NOTE
McClain has not done an interview with the local media since the season opener against Tennessee on Sept. 12. He has declined numerous requests since then. When asked Monday if he had time to talk, McClain said he wouldn’t give an interview until the Raiders sold out a game.
“If the fans come out and we can sell out a damn game, I’ll talk to the media,” McClain said. “Until then … I need full fan support.”
and
Randy Moss is available.
I never thought I would say this but I want Randy right now.
This offense is set up perfectly for his skills. If we had – running pure fly patterns imagine throwing bubble screens and fly routes to Moss? This team is already deadly but another deep threat and I mean real deep threat and I would be making vacation arrangements for Arlington in early February.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
Never! He quit here, laid down like a bitch. Don't care how good a receiver he is ... Moss is a poisonous weed
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree.
While I’d love to have his skillset on the team, the Raiders DO NOT need the attitude or lack of effort that comes with Moss.
by TexasRaider20 on Nov 1, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Hey Hey, I agree he is a little bitch quitter but I am not lying when I say we have receivers out and it would be tempting.
With that said, – just had his best game of his career and Murphy is going to get healthy. This team scores even without all the deep throws. It does add another dimension but when we’re tied or second in runs for +20 and +40 yards we don’t need that other dimension. This team is getting the job done with youth and with killer mentality. I am loving it and believe this has to be one of if not the most impressive Raider teams I have had the pleasure to watch just because of how they’ve been doing it.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
by TAW on Nov 1, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yuck
I would rather do my own dental work with a hammer drill than see Randy Moss in the Silver and Black again.
Focusing on the Chiefs vs Raiders Game..
First Off. I am a noob to SB Nation and to the sports Blogss So I wanted to add pretty much every blog and give my insight to how teams are doing.
1st thing. I would like to Congradulate the Raiders for being 4-4 and put up impressive numbers in back to back games against the Donkies and the Seahawks. While also destroying the Bolts Special teams. I am a Chiefs Fan, However, I am a classy one that has extended his hand toward your fanbase and helping you out of that Cellar that both of us have been down for so long. It certainly feels good over in KC for us to be out of that cellar and I know most of you guys are breathing good fresh air as well.
#2. I know for a fact that This Sundays game will reamp the NFL Greatest Rivalry and everything thats at steak for Sundays Game. If Flex Scheduling started this week, This game would be flexed to either a SNF or a MNF Matchup. No doubt about it. I want this game to be competitive instead of just a match between the two worse in the AFC like it has been. A win next sunday puts the Raiders in very good shape for a run to win the Division. A loss just means you will have to pretty much Win out if you want the Divisional crown.
#3. Lets Celebrate that the Bolts and Donkies are the two worst teams in the AFC West and focus on this weeks great matchup. I heard Nmandi Asomaugh was supposedly out for this weeks game vs the Chiefs. Now, that might sound bad, but in reality, The Chiefs won’t throw most of the game. We are very one dimentional and your team could win.
I expect a close game but since I’m a chiefs fan, will seek to it that the Chiefs win :)
Congrads Raiders and Raiders Fans!
2010 Kansas City Chiefs:11-5
by Weatherman Kumke on Nov 1, 2010 2:20 PM PDT reply actions
You're right we can beat the queefs by double-digits with or without Nnamdi and no clue who our starting QB is going to be.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
by TAW on Nov 1, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
What the hell?!
That’s two apparently reasonable, clear thinking Chiefs fans we now have posting on here. They must be up to something…
;)
Kick their ass and take their stuff!
by AllyRdr on Nov 1, 2010 2:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Get the f off our blog, Weatherman
Just kidding.
See? We’re not so bad once you get to know us ;-)
Anyway, classy post. I agree with your points, especially #2. Not to lapse into hyperbole but yes, this game will stoke the fires of good ol’ fashioned AFC West hatred. I expect a near-sellout.
Lol :)
This better be a near sellout or a sellout. Plus Its CBS Primetime Game :)
Pretty much anything you need to know about the Chiefs i’ll be able to tell ya.
2010 Kansas City Chiefs:11-5
by Weatherman Kumke on Nov 1, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
wait... so I'll be able to watch this in NE?
Please say yes…
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Depending on the NFL Map this week
That comes out tomorrow usually around 5-7PM Timeframe. I know for a fact its gonna be the CBS primetime game. Unless the Folks at CBS are Idiots and would choose a indy Philly as the game for over in New England area.
2010 Kansas City Chiefs:11-5
by Weatherman Kumke on Nov 1, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh hell yeah, I'm waiting to see is CBS will televise it nationally, or at least regionally in the SoCal area.
I want to watch it on TV not on a small internet screen!!
The RaiderLaker
Patguy... since you are in the east... you may get the Colts and Eagles game..
But maybe not.
The RaiderLaker
Patguy, I guess CBS will show it.
according to this online guide. (click on the Nov 7 date; Sunday)
The RaiderLaker
Oh shit... nevermind Patguy, I checked NE, Foxboro zip code listings in that area/region...
East will get the other game; people in the West will get the KC vs Raiders game.
The RaiderLaker
Indeed
Charles, Jones, Mcclusters status is still unknown for this game, and the run DMC, and Bush. Great group of Running backs. Hopefully Run DMC and Charles go to Probowl this year
2010 Kansas City Chiefs:11-5
by Weatherman Kumke on Nov 1, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
So you're running backs are beat up
like our receiving corp? (Our top 3 receivers may not play sunday)
No. Ment that our DMC might be out
If our RBs were all gonna be out, we would be screwed
2010 Kansas City Chiefs:11-5
by Weatherman Kumke on Nov 1, 2010 2:51 PM PDT reply actions
Gradz Vs. J.C. ?? Are You People Fucking Serious ????
Why is this even in this discussion ??? The Raider just handed the SeaChicks a good AZZ Whooping, AT HOME in the Coliseum, to give them their first back to back win, in 2 yrs !!! Not only that, their at .500 for the 1st time since 2002 with 8 games played !!! Oh, BTW, Campbell started the GAME, threw for over 300 yds, a couple of TD’s, NO INT’s, and overall game management was superb !!! The DEFENSE played, LIGHTS FUCKING OUT FOOTBALL !!! This is all that we should be talking about, but somehow it became about who should be the starting QB midway thru the comments.
Reality check: J.C. was a 1st round draft pick, from AUBURN !! Gradz was a 6th RD draft pick, from TOLEDO !!! JC has started over 70 games, Gradz has started under 20 !!! JC has the stronger arm !! Gradz has the quicker feet !!! JC is a pocket passer, that needs good blocking to be sucessful. Gradz can be sucessful, doing it on the move, improvising. But this right here is the key thing in my opinion.The TEAM is PLAYING together now, on Offense and Defense, for the 1st time since the SB yr. And Campbell happens to be the starter and Gradz happens to be hurt !!! Campbell played his way OUT OF STARTING. Gradz got hurt, Campbell’s back in, and truefully,(IMO) has won his job back !!! Now the golden rule is that you don’t loose your spot because of injury, but let’s get real. Gradz wasn’t lighting it up before he got hurt, and I think he was hurting, before he got taken out. He wasn’t throwing the ball very well, not following thru, possible rotator cuff problem.(again, IMO, Residence Doctor, plz check in)
NFL channel just reported, that Gradz is going to be named(or has been named) the starter against K.C.!!! If true, Cable just fucked up. Old School Rule: If it ain’t broke, dont fix it !!! Especially when it looks like you got the right fix in place.I hope & pray it works out, if true. But if Gradz isn’t on, or is looking rusty from the very beginning, I hope the hook is quick. No time for this loyalty BS !!! We got some good shit going on, and truefully I wouldn’t fuck with it !!!!
Example: Remember when Doug Flutie got Buffalo into the playoffs, and then they started Jim Kelly !!!! Remember how that turned out !!!
For those too young too remember.....
It was 1 & done for Buffalo !!! If we loose this game, it could be 1 & done for the CABLE GUY !!!
Talking about coaching decisions !!!! Childress waved Randy Moss, MAYBE !!! Mgmt. doesn’t seem to be on board with this decision. Shannaghan bench’s McNabb for Grossman, stating Grossman knew the 2 minute drill, better than McNabb !!! Really, Grossman…OMG !!! 2 of these decisions may have cost these the latter they’re jobs. Let’s hope Cable’s decision works out, or he may be joining them!!!
Fair Point
IMO the Flutie/Kelly controversy is kinda like this situation. Everyone screamed “Sit Flutie, he’s too little! Kelly’s the guy!” End of the day, what we’ve got in the east bay right now, is two QBs at the high end of mediocrity/low end of good. Sadly, it’s been so long since we had a good QB, that mediocrity is good enough to fight about. So fuck it, here’s to mediocrity, which beats the hell out of the crapfest we’ve been stuck in for the better part of a decade!
NFL channel just reported, that Gradz is going to be named(or has been named) the starter against K.C.!!! If true, Cable just fucked up.
If so, I’m going to be pissed.
Yeah TR, It was a real quick blurb, by the guy reporting on the Moss waiving !!!
He was also commenting on the “COACHING DECISIONS” by Childress & Shannaghan, when he said it !!
Cable has reportedly said Gradz will be starting against KC, Jagger !!!!
That’s the fuckup, right there !!!! I know you don’t suppposedly lose your spot, due to injury, but to start Gradz in front of JC, NOW, I just don’t think it’s the thing to do. Whether it’s right or wrong it besides the point. the team is clicking, putting up numbers NEVER seen before, and you make a change? Remember how Tom Brady got started ??? When Bledsoe got hurt, and Bledsoe stayed on the bench, even when he was healthy. Brady took them to the SB.(Tuck Play)
oh shit... I was tripping... I clearly read Chaz... lol my bad.
Gradz made the illusion of Chaz to me.
The RaiderLaker
this is a quote from death ro
"If the fans come out and we can sell out a damn game, I’ll talk to the media," McClain said. "Until then … I need full fan support."
they have won 2 in a row so what NATION should we sell that bitch out or what?
by 414 RAIDER FREAK on Nov 1, 2010 4:01 PM PDT reply actions
We keep talking about making sure that we sell out, which I agree absolutely needs to happen...
In case you have not seen this, the Raiders are offering a 2 for 1 ticket deal for this weekends game on the Raiders Website, you have to use the password compass on the ticketmaster site, here is a link to get the discounted tickets. Everyone needs to show up and support the Raiders this weekend!!
http://www.ticketmaster.com/promo/cikvwl
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
Thomas Howard is also selling tickets and field passes to benefit his foundation
$36.
I don’t care where or how you get your tickets, just get them. Sell this thing out.
by Raider Since Schroeder on Nov 1, 2010 4:39 PM PDT reply actions
I just checked on Ticketmaster and all of the lowest priced tickets for Sunday are sold out...that's a good start!
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
I just checked out Thomas Howard's website and man, that seems like an amazing deal along with a field pass to meet him before the game...
However, I cannot for the life of me figure out how to make the purchase, I have followed along and tried to get to a page where I can purchase but it never comes. There is a phone number so I guess that I will call tomorrow. Thanks for the info!! I have season tix but I’m sure that some of my friends would love to take advantage of this…
There is no A in OFFENSE!!
Hey Wac !!!
I went to it, and it goes straight to paypal !!! I f you got an account, I think you good to go !!!!
sons
where can i get good raider info so i can write a good post or our bet i want it to indluce 60 70 80 90 and 00 if u sweep Denver
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
j-man, I understand your feeling low after being beaten by SF; I went into a funk for 3-days until
I converted my sorrow into rage – anger – is what you need now, my friend. Use your writing gift to help your team pull itself from the mire. You know, as well as anyone, what’s wrong with the Donks; you should spell it out in black and white and then you’ll feel much better.
There’s plenty of stuff out there on the glorious Raiders. If Denver continues on its present course, I will provide a few links or sources. However, to do so now would be premature, at least, until we defeat the upstart Chiefs.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks sons
i watched your team on direct tv shortcuts they are playing well they keep this up couild be 10-6 need to keep campbell in for now playing too well to take him out
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
I expect J to start Sunday. Cable refers to Grad as the starter to take pressure off Campbell
who plays looser in the back-up role. Maybe we will see Grad after the bye in Pittsburgh (for a rematch) but if J continues to improve then he may finally have the confidence to be again named starter. That throw to Reece on 4th and 1 was Grad-like clutch and had to impress the coaches and those still leery of Campbell’s heart.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Sons, You know I like JC, Just like I know U like Gradz......
But the one thing that bonds us, We both Luv the Raiders !!! When JC was fucking up, I was one of the first to say, Have a seat young man !!! Same goes for you when Gradz wasn’t throwing the ball good, BEFORE he got hurt !!! We’ve already discuss Gradz ‘s injury, along with others, including Spirals & the Doc !!!
Right now I just feel like we can’t screw with the ship, while it’s sailing straight !!!! Gradz just needs to stay ready, but first get healthy !!! Like I said earlier, Players don’t lose their jobs because of injury, (an Unwritten Rule) but it’s not written in stone, Ask Drew Bledsoe !!!! We need to ride this Pony until it doesn’t work anymore !!!!(Just my Opinion)
Players constantly lose their jobs to injury, e.g. Grad this summer. Many players don't
report their injuries because they don’t want their back-up to have the opportunity to usurp them. I’ve seen enough of Campbell to have a good idea of how he plays. If we are ahead or the ground game is working for us he’ll do fine. On the other hand, if we’re behind and our ground game isn’t happening then I do not (yet) feel confident the J is the man enough to save our collective ass.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 1, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
What JC must prove:
One… that he is capable of a 4th quarter comeback.
Two… that he can make plays in the red zone.
Three… that he can throw deep without lofting the ball.
Four… that he can read defenses and make accurate throws in traffic over-the-middle.
And if you think the touchdown to MR counts, don’t bother to reply because you don’t understand the discussion.
Five… and perhaps most important… that he knows what it means to be “open” in the NFL
Great QBs become great by taking chances and learning from their mistakes.
1-4,
with a great running game and now Gallery, I think that he has shown us enough of his capabilities. he can get there consistently. Five, you can’t have a memory or any shame. Favre excells in that department. You need to have the confidence that you will not get pulled and the timing with your WRs. He’s short on both but he can get there.
by raiders4liffe on Nov 2, 2010 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Missed point.
Campbell has played well while the running game is functioning well. Unfortunately, sometimes the running game is going to stall, and we’re gonna need a QB with a little icewater in his veins to bail us out.
The running game sucked sunday until DMC broke the big one
We relied on JC and he lead us
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Red,
This team is still fragile. We have the best punter and the best kicker. He knows that picks and the easy field positions can put us in a hole real quick. WRs are young and excited but they’re not money yet. He’s playing within the system to give us a chance to win. Our is showing up, he can’t blow it with too many maybes. We’re putting it together, he’s being humble, not throwing anyone under the bus. His 120 QB rating on back to back games is outstanding. he’s in a rythm. I don’t see any panic. I think you actually prefer fire to icewater. He’s a cool cat who didn’t go in a funk when he got pulled. he came back like it was all part of a plan. Go beyond slack, give him some props.
by raiders4liffe on Nov 2, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
In Short
I’m gonna cheer on whoever is in the backfield as long as their doing something productive. In all fairness this whole thing is a “Great taste/Less Filling” argument. Both these guys have different skill sets, and different talents and abilities. Personally, I like Gradkowski. That said, if Curly Howard and Huey decide Campbells the guy, that’s cool too, as long as he doesn’t fuck it up. That said, I’m thinkin McNabb will be looking for a new team next year, so if he rolls in and takes charge I might just run thru the streets laughing maniacally.
He has 1-4
He especially has 4
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"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Injuries...but...still producing..Won 3 out of the last 4...
Both QB1 and QB2 have been injured and we’re still starting Campbell.
RB1 McFadden hurt out for 2 games, we just got him back.
WR1 out, WR3 (Murphy) out, we’re now starting using our WR4 (Ford) WR5 (Higgins).
TE2 back up TE out for a few games with a concussion.
LG (Gallery) out for a few games, but we just got him back.
C (Staele) concussion, but we got him back.
OLB (Groves) out, but we got him back.
Nnamdi out due to ankle.
For a 4-4 team that had to deal with a lot of key injuries, we’re still 4-4. The back ups have been playing pretty darn good. This team has shown a lot of character because back ups are stepping in to produce whenever needed. Rookies learning and playing well. (McClain, Houston, Velhdeer) Previous so called draft bust are also stepping up! (McFadden, M. Mitchell, Huff, Routt, Heyward-Bey, Wimbley, & Groves.)
Raiders have to continue to play with confidence and with a chip on their shoulder.
Raider attitude is the best I've ever seen it right now. Hungry, humble, unselfish and fierce
this starts with the HC who instills these values. Yes, Cable is winning me over.
Tom is hungry, he seems to have replaced “just win, baby” with “just dominate, baby”‘;
Tom is humble, objectively assessing our weaknesses and strengths (and our opponents), staying even keeled, giving the team the unsweetened truth.
Tom is unselfish, letting Marshall and Jackson have free reign in their specialties.
Tom is fierce, (I’m using deduction on this one) based on teams generally reflecting their HC’s attitude – and the Raiders are playing like descendants of Spartacus or Maximus
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 2, 2010 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions
You forgot one thing I think is important.
Tom loves this team! When he said during his press conference yesterday that he viewed the Seahags as a rival because they used to be in the same division, I shouted AMEN! He gets the history, he wants to punish those who oppose us and he has worked hard on getting that locker room focused on being a Raider Team. Malcontents gone. Excuses gone. Accountability here. Is he the Head Coach to take the team to the Superbowl? Don’t know. But as Al ages and inevitably has to start handing over management reigns, we could do a lot worse than a guy that loves this team and is willing to let his coaches and players do their thing while holding them accountable for their actions.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
True. But, meaning no disrespect, love is often expressed in detrimental ways
For example, many here love the Raiders but b/c of their love for individual players, e.g. J, they are blinded and would make decisions to the team’s detriment. Our team is best when playing fast and loose and having a stiff in a key position is a retardant to the team.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 2, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I understand what you're saying but
Everything Cable preaches is TEAM first. I think we’re seeing that now i.e. not sticking with Mario at LT etc. He’s holding people accountable, apparently with Al’s blessing.
Now when it comes to a simple fan’s love for a team, you are dead on.
Don't shoot, I'm a man.
Agreed, It seems Cable is now giving orders instead of pleading with the team
the look on his face after the Donkeys scored their 1st meaningless touchdown said it all, he wants total domination and is damn near getting it. It’s been a joy to watch
by rambis64 on Nov 2, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I loved that as well.
I never saw him that pissed after a play before. I don’t know what he’s doing that just changed his approach from Wade II to this new and improved mini-Madden (using that loosely) but its working so far.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
by TAW on Nov 2, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
This team is just so damn unpredictable
To start off the season looking just like last year, and now two huge wins in a row, a .500 record for the first time in awhile. We spend a ridiculous amount of time analyzing team strengths and weaknesses, arguing back and forth, and NOBODY knows what’s coming next…except maybe Damus, but he has mystical powers so that doesn’t count. And you, Raiderrob.
I really am fearful of the kc running game and us reverting back to our old habits.
With or without Nnamdi the secondary is playing good tight coverage and Routt has been consistently good all year even through the bad games. This team must continue to load the box against kc and while forcing Cassell to beat us; we must continue to force the issue. They have only 3 picks and one fumble lost all year. We need to make them work for once this year. They’ve had it too easy with sloppy teams (Chargers, Niners, Bills, for example). When a team executes against them they struggle such as Houston.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
by TAW on Nov 2, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
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