Should Randy Moss Be Claimed By The Oakland Raiders?
by Raymond St. Martin (Saint) on Nov 2, 2010 9:15 AM PDT
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I, for one, defended Randy Moss when he was traded out of Oakland to the Patriots. He gave his all in the beginning only to be let down by a terrible team and chaos. He then followed suit and "Aligator Armed" his way out of Oakland.
I will never forget the devistating hit against the Charers that ruined his 2005 season. He went deep, "Vodka" Collins threw the ball late and it hung in the air for far too long, then WHAM! Randy was high lowed and was never the same in a Raider uniform. He still came into the game as a decoy, but he was broken after that hit.
After being traded to the Patriots his career went through a rebirth in a near perfect season for New England, yet, somehow, "Randy being Randy", led to him being dealt away, to the Vikings, this season.
The Viking deal looked like a desperate move at the time. I mean, the Vikings gave up a third round pick for a chance to give Brett Favre a target and hope that he could win another Super Bowl before riding off into the sunset.
With Favre now looking like an old rodeo vet who's been beat up, broken and apears ready to hang it up, there was no room for a personality the size of Randy "Coach Killer" Moss.
So, I ask you Raider Nation? Is Moss worth the baggage that comes along with his immense talent?
Read the rest of this to get my impression:
This answer is easy...HELL NO!!!
Let him burn another team and another coach. This team is finally starting to gel and the last thing that we'd need is a big fat turd sandwich when we are hoping for a cherry on top of the Sunday. It is NOT worth the risk. T.O. was worth the risk because he has grown up SOME, but RANDY will still be RANDY and with that being the case I say PASS!!!
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Of course not
This question answers itself. TO has always put in an effort. Randy is a quitting cocksucker.
by lchristmas on Nov 2, 2010 9:18 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Clear, concise and to the point
Moss quite simply is a cancer. I just read where he even blew standing in the chow line after practice screaming he wouldn’t feed that sh!t to Vick’s dog.
He played hard his 1st 2 games here
Then said F it, Id rather have TO. He only causes trouble when the media follows him like in Philly, havent heard anything there from the Bengals
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
sign me up 4 noe of the above
Randy Moss & TO can go buy an island together and film reality TV 24/7 for all I care, (just keep them away from my team and my TV)
"Like I said, it’s like me giving you a high-five and chest bump after you hit for the cycle against the kid in the wheelchair." Vacafan on May 14, 2010
As tempting as it is to think about HELL NO!
He is not going to be claimed by anybody by the deadline and they would be stupid since they would have to pick up his $3.6 mil owed to him this season. Let the Vikes be the last on the list of fools to take on this selfish fuck, well maybe sd or kc.
"I didn't fail the test, I just found 100 ways to do it wrong"
- Benjamin Franklin
The Raiders have finally established a hard working and accountable team attitude
Moss is not hard working, accountable or a team player. Randy will always be about Randy.
FUCK HIM !!!
Couldn't have said it better myself.
AND THE HORSE HE RODE IN ON
by golfswithglock on Nov 2, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I did not we could use the "F" word...rock on!
I have to believe some of the comments Tom Cable is making to the press about considering Randy Moss and that Jason Campbell will not be the starter when Gradkowski is healthy is a strategic / motivational tool. He can keep other teams guessing while stressing good competition between his own players, maintaining quality practice habits and good game production overall. Not to mention the privilege of jerking the media around after the way he was demonized by them last year.
Raider Nation Por Vida!
by Itwasafnfumble on Nov 2, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
We don't need either of them
If we were headed for a big playoff run, I could see maybe taking a risk on Moss. He still has talent and he likes winning. When his team is in trouble, he’ll bail. You just have to realize that about him. And he’s always taken off plays—I saw him play in his rookie preseason and even then, he took off plays. He has no interest in being a decoy. But I don’t see him making a big impact on the Raiders.
We have a young team that is gelling. If we get to 8-8, it will be a great season for us. If Schillens ever gets healthy, our receiver corps will actually be pretty decent—but our success is more dependent on our running game and defense anyway.
@WorldBLee
I AGREE HE IS A CANCER AND WILL DESTROY THE TEAM FROM THE INSIDE!!!! I SAY FUCK HIM AND LET SOME OTHER TEAM DEAL WITH THIS ASSHOLE CRYBABY!!!! RAIDER NATION 4 LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAYBE
The only way I’d even think about Moss is: If he cleared waivers and you could get him cheap. The RAIDERS don’t need to be on the hook for Moss’ 3.8 mil. and 6. something next year.
That being said,AL,PLEASE don’t fuck up the team chemistry we seem to be building.
GO FOR 3 IN A ROW!
NO NEVER
We have played well the last two games and gained some momentum. Why let the risk of ruining this good run we are having. The Offense looks much better. We aren’t in desperate of a big play receiver. We got a great run game and the passing game has played ok the last two games. Getting Randy Moss could ruin all this and I’m still bitter he quit on the team. He said he was committed to excellence when he signed with us. He DEFINITELY did NOT show it on the field those two seasons.
Let's put this distraction aside. We have the mother of all games ahead of us in 5 days and Moss isn't worth our time & energy
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 2, 2010 9:41 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Not the mother of all games at all.
The Raiders are about to expose the mighty Chefs as the flukey fraud they are. This will show everyone who is the boss in the West. Kansas City is about to experience the same thing as Denver did last season.
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
I hope you're right and I'm wrong. But those quick squirrelly type RBs have caused us problems
and I want to beat and smash there heads and bodies so bad I’m almost foaming at the mouth.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 2, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Cassell can't handle that kind of pressure
Oakland’s pass rush is too relentless for him. McCluster is out, and McClain can catch(and eat) anything else that KC has that even resembles a running back. We need to pray that Nnamdi gets healthy quick…
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
Is Dexter out for sure?
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 2, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
i know people that have a similar mentality
… misery loves company… and at this moment in time, we are better off without him and to be honest with you, im not comfortable with our WR core but id rather be without Randy Moss.
"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour
Hey Ratahan
trade McNabb to us. We’ll give you a Raiders Moss jersey!
The RAIDER NATION is the ONLY NATION!!
by oaklandSMASH on Nov 2, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL
" Only build on positives , don't stack the negatives...Instead of criticizing , what was a positive?" - Donavin Darius
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
Claim him and then trade him
He could be worth a couple journeyman players who have good hands.
I say yes. Claim Randy Moss
and then make him the team bitch. Like, "Hey bitch, my jockstrap is dirty—wash it. Or “Hey bitch, Al’s colostomy bag is full—change it.” Or “Hey bitch, the toilets are broken—open your mouth.”
Randy Moss may not be the WR he used to be, but I have no doubt he is still a Hall of Fame caliber bitch.
I promise; I will never die.
Noon, have ya heard? Suppossedly he got cut because of a food rant. He dissed the food at a "mom and pop" place.
(not fast food) He said he would’nt feed that shit to his dogs, and that he used to eat that shit but now he’s got money. (The food was ribs, chicken, etc. it was a team post game meal)
He basically dissed his own teamates by making them seem low for eating that food and the restaurant servers felt uncomfortable. full story
The RaiderLaker
At first I was secretly pulling for Al to get him (I don't like our depth) but now, after this, I don't want his pansy ass.
Spoiled mfkr, a DIVA, will mess with the locker room. Still, we should’ve brought in TO. Al might get Moss though…..
The RaiderLaker
I am beginning to like our depth.
The kids are playing some ball now. I want Nicky Miller to get more involved. Any word on his injury?
Refuse to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death
Nick's ankle sprain was in practice (Thurs) last week and he returned punts and took
snaps Sunday – so he should be even better this Sunday
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 2, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the link.
Randy Moss fails at life.
I promise; I will never die.
by Rich Langford on Nov 2, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
We need someone like Hines Ward
Not dandy Randy.
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by Ionnes on Nov 2, 2010 10:43 AM PDT reply actions
LOVE me some Hines Ward ...
Definitely one of my favorite players in the league, and he would be SOOOO beloved in Oakland playing the way he does.
Unfortunately he’s never really been available that I can recall.
However … the guy to have gotten that WAS available off-season was clearly Boldin. Never heard the S&B was making any real play for him, and that’s a damn shame. I really think we’d be 5-2 right now if we had that guy.
The only reason I’d say it might be worth taking a chance on Moss is that we’re pretty friggin hurting at WR right now. For this reason I’d not be like pissed off if we picked him up.
I’d think he’d be excited to play for us right now too, cause if we staged an SB run and he played well, he’d feel like he’d get all the attention/accolades.
The way he acts, I have to think that Moss at this point cares about one thing, and only one thing … a Ring.
by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 2, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish we had Hines
I miss class acts like Tim Brown playing for the Raiders.
I sport my authentic T. Brown every time I watch a Raiders game.
The RAIDER NATION is the ONLY NATION!!
by oaklandSMASH on Nov 2, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
He's an STD
We’re finally gelling after all of this time. Keep that selfish SOB as far away from our team as possible.
He’s a cancer, an STD, and god knows what else.
He might need us — but we don’t need that chucklehead… I wouldn’t use him as a water boy.
by DatingRevolution on Nov 2, 2010 10:47 AM PDT reply actions
please...
NO…he had his chance and he dogged it for years…I say no way.
Sign him!
Then a la Full Metal Jacket, have all the locker room hit him repeatedly with socks and pillowcasings filled with soap!
I only want Oakland to sign him to treat his aging, non-championship winning, cancerous ass like the whiney little bitch that he is!
The RAIDER NATION is the ONLY NATION!!
Once looked upon as a Raiders raider
but rowdy raiders respect the refinements ‘class-act’ offers. Randy still has not learned what makes the Nation so great; authenticity, knowing when to say “when.” If Moss had grown just a little since he left the Raiders, he could be considered for another chance; however, he still seems to be ‘stuck’ in the wrong mental state to be a comrade accepted in Oakland. Thumbs down until he portrays qualities the Bay Area fans dictate.
I remember Moss telling the fans at the Coli during the Raider Nation Celebration
that he wanted to retire a Raider.
Fuck that guy — I hope he is in the CFL this time tomorrow
The RAIDER NATION is the ONLY NATION!!
by oaklandSMASH on Nov 2, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he'll just get passed around from one team to another
for the next 2 years—no one will be able to stand his epic assholiness for very long.
I can't wait till he's out of the league
and realizes that he wasted his awesome talents by acting like a child.
The RAIDER NATION is the ONLY NATION!!
by oaklandSMASH on Nov 2, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
People like him never realize that they themself are the problem.
They are constitutionally incapable of realizing something like that. Or if they do, they’ll rationalize it away so fast that it will never ‘stick’ and become a matter of any importance to them.
by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 2, 2010 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you imagine if Moss had the work ethic and class of a Jerry Rice?
There’s no doubt in my mind that Moss had a chance to be known as the TGOAT if he had really applied himself, given his physical skills. It’s really a shame that his brain is so f***ed up.
by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 2, 2010 12:34 PM PDT reply actions
You could add all the mustard & mayo in the world to it, but in the end, the Turd Sandwich will always taste like shit…
Taylor Morgan: "My abortion was botched!"
Teemu Selanne: "Wow. That sounds awesome."
by DodgerBlueBalls on Nov 2, 2010 12:35 PM PDT reply actions
no way
coach cable finally has this team in the right state of mind, we dont need him coming in here and fucking it up with his negativity, crybaby bitch, dont even try to catch a ball 3 feet away from you attitude. he used to be on of my favorite players on the vikings but now hes just a disgrace. all that god given talent and he just pisses it away, people would kill to be in his position. as much as we need a veteran reciever (T.O. would have been nice) No waaay!
A Resounding HELL NO!
Watch the tapes… It is so obvious to see that when Moss decided he wanted to not play in Oakland, he started not giving it his full effort on play after play, week after week. He hasn’t changed his spots, he is still in it only for himself, not a team player. He may be the most talented receiver in the NFL, we dont need his disruptive, self centered self on OUR TEAM.
by Raised in Oakland on Nov 2, 2010 1:09 PM PDT reply actions
there is only 1 answer to this question.....
hell to the FUCK NO!!!!!!!! fuck moss
FUCK HIM
let kc or sd bring that chaos into their locker room we will do without him
Noone understands the thoughts of an incarcerated man. the years I've lost, I'm climbing this ladder looking up at this kid whose boss. He's 1/2 my age I'm still getting 1/2 his wage, but I need this check though. So I hold back 1/2 my rage. there's poison in my chest, so I pour it all on the page.
by the world of oak on Nov 2, 2010 1:26 PM PDT reply actions
more important
whats up with nhamdi? Is he gonna be ready to go by sunday cause we sure could use him against bowe
Noone understands the thoughts of an incarcerated man. the years I've lost, I'm climbing this ladder looking up at this kid whose boss. He's 1/2 my age I'm still getting 1/2 his wage, but I need this check though. So I hold back 1/2 my rage. there's poison in my chest, so I pour it all on the page.
by the world of oak on Nov 2, 2010 1:30 PM PDT reply actions
Agree ... this is more important ... our injuries concern me greatly for sunday ...
I think there’s about 0% chance of NA playing, but there’s so many other question marks, some of which become even more critical w/o namdhi. Sounds like Murphy is also likely out. Too bad Schillens is coming along so slowly … at this point I wish we’d have just put him on IR from day one.
Some other important players who’re maybe playing, but banged up:
Zach Miller
Hiram Eugene
Chris Johnson (even though I think he sucks, he becomes important w/o NA)
Jacoby Ford (no idea his status actually, he could be out for all I know)
The injury to Namdhi is just about the single worst thing I can imagine for the Raiders coming into this Chiefs game. I mean, obviously, he’s our best player for one thing. But the reason I think it’s bad this week is that with him out there, we can basically neutralize the crappy Chiefs pass game and focus on the run, which we should be able to stop if we don’t have to worry much about the pass.
W/O him we have this huge unknown in the form of CJ or Jeremy Ware, both of whom require serious safety help IMHO.
To me this single injury converts “I’m pretty confident of winning” into “this game is a real toss-up”.
by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 2, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Better than "Heyward- Gay"
I can understand all of the negativity….but lets keep it Raider Real….Moss is better at half speed than ANY RECEIVER on the current Raider roster at full speed! A non-hustling Moss is light years better than Heyward Bey, who probably couldnt even catch a STD in a whorehouse without a rubber!!! Murphy will get you 50 catches max per season and the cast of others are just a bunch of fucking background singers. Combine all the catches and yards and td’s of the current Raider Receivers vs. Moss career stats…Im pretty sure Randys are better…If motherfuckers quit being so fuckin sensitive and just man up, mayber football will get back to football. We havent had Moss for the past 3 seasons and we still SUCKED!!!! Bringing him back to Oakland wont fuck up a situation thats already fucked up!!
In case you haven't notice, our situation is not fucked-up. The Raiders are getting better each week and if we figure out
how to stop a top rushing offense and Grad get healed we are taking this Division and who knows what after.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 2, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you been watching the last 2 games???
the team is finally headed in the right direction and you want to add the biggest asshole in the whole NFL to a roster finally purged of all it’s assholes. A non hustling Randy Moss maybe better than DHB but what a prick like that does to locker room is far worse than the difference between those two receivers. End of story!
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
CANT SAY
fuck him in the other moss topic without coming into this one, but like i said i looked up to him alot even before he was a raider, but after his stint here, i would rather have shawn merriman here beating our asian tv show stars and feuling our steroid market than that fucking crybaby randy moss
id say yes but
the guys been in oakland before and i doubt he has any interest in returning. Hes not gonna give effort here if oakland claims him.
Truefully, With the Bad Attitude ia All.....
Just remember what he was working with then, far as the coaching and players !!!
Now if we was at full strength at the receiver position, I wouldn’t even be on this page of thinking. But Let me get this out the way first.
The same folks that are saying Hell no, Fuck no, BLAH,BLAH, BLAH, etc. etc., When I brought up bringing in T.O., to bolster our W.O. position in the summer, you were saying the same thing. Now those same folks are saying, Kinda wish we would’ve picked T.O. up, when we had the chance !!! Hypocrites !!! Not that I think they are serious about picking Moss up, but if they did, would it be THAT BAD. We got Better Coaching situation now,(HUE) We ARE hurting at the receiver position. Chad is done for the year, put him on IR, and we’ll see what he has NEXT YEAR !!!
Moss & DHB on the same side, going down field !!!! Get your fucking attitudes out the way, and think about it !!! That would be down right scary, I don’t care who the DB’s are !!! I go you one better, Moss & McFadden on the same side !!!! How much would that open up the offense !!! We might hit the 600 yd mark !!!
Don’t Forget……We Are The Raiders !!! We take all the Malcontents of the league, and make it work for us!!! As much of pain in the azz, runs his mouth too DAMN much, and here’s the kicker !!! If he clears waivers, we can get him for the minimum !!!! Viking’s would be stuck paying his current contract. He wants ONE MORE BIG Contract, and he’ll have to work for it, the rest of this year, and all of the next. Me myself, I’d ride this fool all the way to the playoffs !!!
Get your attitudes out the way folks, open your eyes and look at the BIG PICTURE !! Fuck a 8-8 season, I want a winning season now, with a little extra, at the end of it. Shit, The DAMN Giants Just won the Fucking World Series !!! And look who they had on that team, a bunch of self proclaimed misfits. Remind you of anyone we luv !!!
You make some good arguments
I wanted Chris Chandler, but they made no attempt to get him. I wanted Deion Branch this year, but they made no attempt to get him. Bey is never going to be all that we hoped. Personally, I have more hope for Ford than him. But what about Moss as a coach for the receivers? They sure could use some better coaching than they’re getting now.
That selfish prick wouldn't give the receivers a towel to wipe their soiled hands. He's a cunt
I don’t respect him or want his bombastic ass on this team. We are a Team and playing like a Team and there’s nobody now disrupting the beautiful harmony that we have achieved. I know that well spoken (and strongly opinionated) voices have been raised today, saying that we should acquire Moss, to them I say, “You are mistaken on this one” (and it is not the same as wanting TO – who never quit on a team before (which is an unforgivable sin (a blasphemy against the spirit of the Raiders). Not forgiven in this life or the next.
S-O-B: ITS HOW I ROLL, DEAL WITH IT.
by Sons-of-Blanda on Nov 2, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
On the Coaching aspect, rightnasty.........
i think he could do much more for our young set of receivers,(experience receiver, that we all were clammering for in the preseason) than what we have now, with Sonjay whatever his name is!!! Plus, and I’m going to say it again, IF HE CLEARS WAIVERS, we won’t have to pay him much of anything this year, and I think Hue’s personality will be able to keep him in check, and make him feel “WANTED” !!!! I just think that the timing is much better suited for him now. We have a better team, stronger coaching( we think today, we might think different after the KC game) all the way around. He could possibly be a difference maker !!!!
S-O-B, I’m not wrong in voiceing opinion !!! We just happen to differ on this one. Not mad at cha !! Shit we differ on the QB situtation too, LMAO !!!! Am I wrong there too !!!!! LOL !!! And BTW Sons. You know who is pissed the most??? PERCY HARMON !!! That should tell you something, right there !!!
Explain something to me though
How this team that once was able to control a completely roided out Lyle Alzado, couldn’t handle a guy with a big mouth?
Moss and TO
No on Moss and forget about TO. Both guys are prima donna. We’ve already dealt with Moss one time, do we need a 2nd lesson? (Remember the saying, once shame on him, twice, shame on you?)
TO always gave effort, but did you see how many QB\WR relationships he burnt? J. Garcia, D. McNabb, T. Romo, and his interview in Cincy recently threw his Offensive Coordinator under the bus. Losing in Cincy, it’s just a matter of time.
We do not need to expose Heyward-Bey, Louis Murphy, or Jacoby Ford to these type of players. Luckily, Heyward-Bey was taught how to be a professional and understands the true meaning of being a “team player.”
We’ve won 3 out of the last 4. Back to Back convincingly, we don’t need the drama.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
We got receivers that play their hardest for us. We got a Receiver out of the Third Round who emerged as a Very Good Receiver. We got a receiver our of the First Round that played HORRIBLE his first year, went Back to camp right after SUPER BOWL SUNDAY to get better, and it seems to be paying off. Moss IS a Cancer. PERIOD. I’ll take a receiver that actually does whatever is in his power to TRY and get better rather than one that is a Great Receiver, but Messes with CHEMISTRY. We are .500 since 2002. Why ruin it? The guys are COMFORTABLE.
In Bruce We Trust
by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Nov 3, 2010 9:47 AM PDT reply actions
No more to worry about- The Titans picked up Moss
and the Chiefs still have to play the Titans. Hopefully Moss hasn’t blown the Titans apart by then.
JUST DOMINATE BABY !!!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
The autumn wind we heard was the sound of one big sulpheric burrito-style fart as the Vikings expelled the gas pain named randy moss…Vikings are going down the drain in a hurry but I applaud them for treating a class A jerkoff appropriately.
Soon enough, his career will be over, and his headlines will contain something to the effect of being arrested for beating up a silicone heavy blonde hooker (with a dick) because he/she/it stole his large dog turd-style gold chain.
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