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2nd Half Game Thread: Oakland @ Pittsburgh

Raiders down 21-3 to the Steelers after the 1st half.

Need to get their composure back, pull it together and come out scoring!

 

GO RAIDERS!!!

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even if they loose, I won’t feel bad. This is a top 3 team we are facing, and long streaks come to an end eventually.

But regardless, I still think we can win. GO RAIDERS!

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:47 AM PST reply actions  

Yes, and Rapelisberger got bitch slapped so there's that.

"I thought it was going in," Warriors center Chris Hunter said. "It looked like the invisible man tipped it away at the last second."

by kenntoe on Nov 21, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Indeed. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

They are really cocky.

I wouldn’t mind seeing a few punishing blows, penalties or not.

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Let's see some adjustments here in the second half.

Maybe some pressure on Roth and perhaps a few screen plays by the Raiders?

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

JC

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Campbel.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

THANK YOU! They caught it!!!

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

zomg camera shot on bruce and hes all alone

they quit on him!!!!!!

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

loll

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

not sure if serious

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

he didn't.

he isn’t trolling you jagger. He is just trying to make a point.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, my answer to his point would be a face punch like the Seymour one.

But since I can’t see him, I don’t know who he is, I will not even get mad.
:)

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 21, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

um... okay..?

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

JC rolled out, and threw on the run again.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

I think that's three times, maybe 4 now.

Don’t look this of jaggerjaw. ;)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey Murphy , tap your feet

High school players can do that

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 11:50 AM PST reply actions  

Stay in bounds murph!

Great throw by JC.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:50 AM PST reply actions  

So far I'm mostly disappointed in our D

Esp. the passing D.

JC isn’t doing great but not terrible either. Our D is just playing badly here.

Seymour … what an idiot.

The people who voted for it being more important to have Zach than Nnamdi … I gotta say … I voted Nnamdi and I’m sticking by that. Johnson is just not good enough.

Lets go here in the 2nd half, at least make the score respectable, mount some kind of friggin game here…

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 21, 2010 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

Ha ha, JC sacked himself

They keep getting unblocked guys in though.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 21, 2010 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

wrote this last week read below

Sorry to say this but it’s true.
Think of the last two games. o.k. Seattle. How many yards did he get on that tipped twice ball ? Lots. I think there was a long screen to Mcfadden that day also. McFadden and M. Reece broke some serious YAC in that game too thanks to a fallen down duo of db’s on the DHB catch.
Now take the KC game. Ford pretty much saved his ass and the win.
Take the ball to make it to OT that Ford had to pretty much come back and fall to his knees to get. And the Interception that Ford saved Campbell from taking. And if Ford doesnt dive for that last catch in OT that play doesnt happen.

I hate to think with the glass half empty but all those plays saved Campbells ass.
Oh and one more…when our DB intercepted the pass to the endzone before the half after he threw an INT right before the half. Even if they would have taken the 3 at the half it’s a different game. Campbell will fail.

by RocklinRaiderfan on Nov 21, 2010 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

keep in mind

the entire first half, the WRs kept dropping everything. You aren;t going to win if they do this.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Now take the KC game

Ya , he saved his ass on 1 play but everything else was good from JC

Against Seattle we didnt even try and throw too much, there was no need to, he did what he had to do and had the DHB bomb

JC did what he had to ddo and was bailed out once

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow wide receivers making plays, thats what their supposed to do.

If Murphy would have dragged his foot the drive would still be going.

by Oceanside Raider on Nov 21, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

NOOOO!!!!!

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

someone block harrison? or do you just not like blocking?

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

Why change in the second half?

I mean, looks like the play calling won’t change either.

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Campbell soup is delicous take that back

Moma McNabb says so

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

morre was around there...

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

2 fucking weeks to game plan

And this is what they come up with? I could do better in 15 mins.

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

DEFENSE!!!

Mike Mitchell!!!!

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

As do I. :) :) :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

beautfiful

If we continue knocking out their linemen and manage to put a few scores on the board, we could pull this one out

by ctokes on Nov 21, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

+2

And some creative D that will take advantage of the Steelers O-line woes to create some turnovers or at least give the Raiders O more chances with the ball.

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

WE NEED A LINE AND A WR

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

a WR that can CATCH and stay in bounds. ;)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

one freakin play

c’mon, that pass was crap

by Sbay on Nov 21, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

The pass was perfect, and murphy did not even try and tip toe in bounds.

yes, it was one play, but an example. Plus it was key.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

nope. not really.

all the throws JC made, the WRS could not catch. Even miller dropped two.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

+2

JC has had a lot of good passes

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I said it last week

remember every said wallace drops all the ball. We need to find on that can catch

by Micheal Y on Nov 21, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

HERE IT COMES

I still think we can win…I want bruce in…just to fire up the O

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 11:58 AM PST reply actions  

not enough

they hold,

the lineman are too far behind the line of scrimmage, that should be a penalty every play

by Sbay on Nov 21, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

we need a wide receiver that can play

was the weather too cold for DHB’s hamstring today

by DK209 on Nov 21, 2010 12:00 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks for showing us 6 seconds of coverage

Between commercials, CBS. (And NFL.)

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 21, 2010 12:00 PM PST reply actions  

I think we need a vet WR

other than that. The WRs are not fired up. If they get fired up they will produce

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 12:01 PM PST reply actions  

catchable pass

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

Thrown behind him

Catchable, yet, but not a good throw—especially considering it was about 4 yards.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 21, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

not a good throw no

but no reason to drop that

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Hit his hands.

I agree with you.

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

That's 12 feet!

I mean, give the guy a break!

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

yeaaaaaaaa

take out Campbell he officaly sucks today

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

what about today

a line and wr – idiotic

how about today

by Sbay on Nov 21, 2010 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

This was JCs first major mistake. Don't ejaculate(for lack of a better term) over it.

The OL and WRs and Miller were BAD today.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

We need an OL

that doesn’t get confused against a shifting defense…

They have looked like a bunch of second-stringers.

Failure builds character; success reveals it

by signcut on Nov 21, 2010 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks JC. That's on you there.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

true

that pass was an “i dont give a fuck” pass

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

it was more of

“oh god! catch it please!”

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

They need some offensive imagination.

No spreading out the defense. No trying to compensate for the blitz.

It's never just a game when you're winning.
- George Carlin
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
- Mitch Hedberg

by TAW on Nov 21, 2010 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprised if Goodell suspends Seymor for hitting golden boy Big Ben in the jaw.

by Walker Wallace on Nov 21, 2010 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

Hey guys, just got on the net

Looks like JaCampbell showed up again today.

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP

by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:04 PM PST reply actions  

He was doing well in the fiorst half

but the WRs and Zack decided to have stone hands, and drop everything.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

nope, he played well

sooo many drops and shit line

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Sacked by Houston!

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:04 PM PST reply actions  

Is that the 1st sack?

Not that it matters. No pressure at all today. Give pitt some credit minus the holds.

It's never just a game when you're winning.
- George Carlin
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
- Mitch Hedberg

by TAW on Nov 21, 2010 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

And Pitt can thank Marshall

for the lack of creativity on Oakland’s D.

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

two drives. two stops. thanks for fighting D too bad Cable and our OC cant come up with some decent offensive calls or the WRs cant man up and catch a pass.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

Alright. Lets take advantage of this.

Campbell, and WRs, if you guys don’t have a great drive, I will be very, very angry.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

I was going to put a marvin the martian picture

but my firefox thing ain’t working well with that…

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

WTF a fair catch at the 4?

It's never just a game when you're winning.
- George Carlin
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
- Mitch Hedberg

by TAW on Nov 21, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

Just got on the net

Looks like JaCampbell showed up again for this game…

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP

by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

okay that pass was shit

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

Nice pass.

It's never just a game when you're winning.
- George Carlin
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
- Mitch Hedberg

by TAW on Nov 21, 2010 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

okay, that was shit too

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

Fuck you Campbell.

but flag on Harrison. May have enticed that horrible throw. Also may be the reason.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

Lucked out.

Jason ought to give that guy a kiss.

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

Shut up, Fouts

That was totally a drive into the ground. Do you not know the rulebook?

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 21, 2010 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

GREAT HIT!!!!

I hope that motherfucker was knocked out of the game

Heads by the score take flight incite a war
Chicks hit the floor, diehard fans demand more
Behold the bold soldier, control the globe slowly
Proceeds to blow swingin swords like Shinobi
Stomp grounds and pound footprints in solid rock
Wu got it locked, performin live on your hottest block

- Inspectah Deck

by Raider Zealot on Nov 21, 2010 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

JC ran up to the DL......

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:11 PM PST reply actions  

This is pathetic

Bed and breakfast offense whenever Campbell is in the game.
Where is the play calling? Hue jackson come in? ARE YOU THERE???

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP

by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

wow

we dont deserve to win this game smh

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 12:12 PM PST reply actions  

We always deserve to win

This whole game has been bullshit.

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP

by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly JC is getting no help.

Just put him in the shotgun and run some draws. They have their ears pinned back.

It's never just a game when you're winning.
- George Carlin
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
- Mitch Hedberg

by TAW on Nov 21, 2010 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

+1

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Last years beat the same team

with gradkowski

John
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by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

this is a top 3 team?? !! they look like crap.
Throwing a hissy fit cause they have a bad call on that pick 6.
Im impressed so far with the few number of calls Oakland has.
Pitt has been sloppy all game. But the Offense is what hasnt shown up today.
Time to punch PItt in the face with a TD.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

This is pathetic.

No one is playing well. We are committing penalties now as well.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

This is pathetic

Seriously get some fucking yards, stop embarrassing your god damn nation

by ctokes on Nov 21, 2010 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

this is getting crazy

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

Ford hurt

On that too high pass by JC. Good to see him get up, though.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 21, 2010 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

Im counting around 6-8 drops

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

I'm guessing Grad comes in on the next drive.

It's never just a game when you're winning.
- George Carlin
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
- Mitch Hedberg

by TAW on Nov 21, 2010 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

McFadden Drop

Team looks hungover.

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

this cant be from the flight. Again, Cables fault not having these guys prepared.
What happened to just cut it loose?

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

McFadden dropped it, but even if he caught it, he wouldn't have done anything.

almost INT’d too because h dropped it…

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

The O-line looks like wet toilet paper….sad

by Raiderreaper on Nov 21, 2010 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

Nobody is making excuses bro.

The whole team is playing shitty. The recievers are shit, the line is shit, so in turn the qb is doing shit.

by Dogsoldier on Nov 21, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

you keep saying the SAME ExACT THINGS. I think you have blind prejudice.

I do want Grad in now, just so you know before you call me a JC fanboy.

JC has played well in the first half, but his WRs and Zack were dropping almost EVERYTHING he threw to them. The OL was alright, but WRs and Zack, were horrible, and could not help sustain the drives.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

when a qb can't make a decent pass

it is hard to get into a the game as a receiver

by Sbay on Nov 21, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

he did, but you are so "prejudice" against him

that you only see his negatives, and not the positives.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

85% of his throws in the first half were very good.

they just dropped them.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

He made several VERY GOOD passes in the first half though.

and they all dropped them.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

yes he did.

He made several good throws. Look earlier in the 1st half threa, and you would see us say things like “he dropped it…”

He made good throws.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know what cbs means

but he made good throws in the first half.

But if you are just going to keep saying “no he didn’t” then I’m done here. Nothing I say will not change anything.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I can say the same thing to you.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

watch now

those are great passes

by Sbay on Nov 21, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I know. I am not denying them.

JC made those kinds of passes in the first half, and they dropped them.

But you would deny it, and call me blind.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

bad throws

especially when it counts

by Sbay on Nov 21, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

There WERE good throws.

Bad drops. Especially when it count. Like the two drops by Zack, and (3?) by murph.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

i hope you know im white

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

He is a peice of trash

Why do we have these QBs (JaMarcus and now JaCampbell) that show no upside on the field yet get to stay in as a starter?

John
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by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

I think pitt deserves some credit.

They are stopping everything they are doing. As for the drops they probably wouldn’t have been able to do anything with them anyway. pitt is just clocking guys as they get their hands on the ball.

It's never just a game when you're winning.
- George Carlin
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
- Mitch Hedberg

by TAW on Nov 21, 2010 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

no

have you seen the play calling and effort that the O brought out?

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

The play calling is death

But the personal can’t execute… need a better signal caller in there to fake the defense out. Campell gives every play away with his eyes like a rookie..

John
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by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey I'm not saying Oakland is not doing their part either. Lol!

Its just pitt knows what Oakland is going to do before Campbell even gets under center.

It's never just a game when you're winning.
- George Carlin
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
- Mitch Hedberg

by TAW on Nov 21, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

No, it isn't...

Failure builds character; success reveals it

by signcut on Nov 21, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

hardly

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Getting bitch slapped...

Pittsburgh is just taking it to us… and we’re not doing anything about it

Failure builds character; success reveals it

by signcut on Nov 21, 2010 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

Huff could have had that pick clean

If he’d turned around sooner.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 21, 2010 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

Nah, take that back

He was gonna be out of bounds either way, I think.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 21, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

yup

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

we do that too lol

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice play Huff. Somebody is still playing.

It's never just a game when you're winning.
- George Carlin
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
- Mitch Hedberg

by TAW on Nov 21, 2010 12:21 PM PST reply actions  

have fun grad fans

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

get ready hes gonna get hurt in a couple throws or two because somebody didnt catch the ball or the playcall is lousy.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

We only need 3 TDs.

plenty of time to get them.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

HE CAUGHT A PAS?!?!?!

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:23 PM PST reply actions  

Nice Grad. Showing elusiveness. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:23 PM PST reply actions  

Nice Grad. Showing elusiveness. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:23 PM PST reply actions  

Yes. :)

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

What the WRs can catch?

It's never just a game when you're winning.
- George Carlin
I'm sick of following my dreams. I'm just going to ask them where they're going and hook up with them later.
- Mitch Hedberg

by TAW on Nov 21, 2010 12:23 PM PST reply actions  

its cuz grad is fireing them up! They need some motivation

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

So far so good.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:24 PM PST reply actions  

WHat? short drop back? Short passes?

Why werent we doing this at the start of the game ???

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:24 PM PST reply actions  

huh?

not sure I get that

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

i c now

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

This is our starter

Even if he makes mistakes… he also takes good chances too.

John
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by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:25 PM PST reply actions  

No problem dick

John
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by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Myers caught it?

holy Shit

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:26 PM PST reply actions  

time for Myers to show

What he showed in preseason 2009.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 21, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

nice throw Grad

I want to be the modern day version of Super Mario Brothers!!! Dont care for *shrooms*, but would love to *get large* and *spit fire*...unless im constantly told "thanks, but your girl is in another castle". That would rate a 8.9 on the ole *Suck-ometer*!!!

by Kobe Won Kenobi on Nov 21, 2010 12:26 PM PST reply actions  

holy crap an empty set???! I dont believe it are they finally opening up the playbook?

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

BUUUUUUUSH!

Passing opened up the run.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 21, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

I think playing bush opened up the run game. they werent using him all game. where DMAC now

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey Michael Y

<aybe Grad is using his black magic and made everyones hands bigger ??? :)

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

that looked f from the start

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

that was good blocking

okay, im confuseed

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

Bruce should not have ran back.

reece dropped it.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:29 PM PST reply actions  

that was just hot shit from Bruce

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

well that was shitty

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:29 PM PST reply actions  

That... would be a case of taking a sack would have been better.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:29 PM PST reply actions  

or throwing it away

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

that too.

but even throwing it away, can result in an INT, unless it’s lateral.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

the throw wasn't close to the WR.

It was way too low, and palomalu took advantage.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

that was really all on grad

a scrub coulda saw that, he under threw it into triple coverage off his back foot, he just happened to be the safety in the area, nothing spectacular from troy

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Jc throws a pick that bounces off a guys hands its all on him

Grad throws the worst pass of the day and its all cause Troy is good……. that makes sense

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

worst throw of the day was the

Campbell to Ford three yards in front of his feet.

by $73.27 on Nov 21, 2010 1:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That was a HORRIBLE throw.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

anyone still think Grad is the savior???
instead of throwing it away.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

yes

too little too late,

at least he didn’t int inside his own 20

by Sbay on Nov 21, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

He is better than campbell

not a savior… you think campbell is the future??? lol

John
RAIDERS - AS ROMA - CUBS - WARRIORS - MUAY THAI - HIP HOP

by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Personally

I don’;t think either QB is the future. lol

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Im not on either QBs side. Neither of them has shown the leadership qualities consistently enough for me to actually back them. Sure theyre both the 1 and 2 qbs for oakland but I expect, better yet demand a QB who is a leader and not afraid to fail. By throwing that ball in traffic with 3 defenders. Im not surprised the stud Polamalu picked it off. Thats what hes known to do and why I wanted him on Oaklands side. It doesnt excuse Grad for the throw or make it less of a bad throw than JC who had the pick in his own 20. Theyre both bad throws coming off two bad offensive plays.

Yes Bruce showed and gave us hope last year with his gritty play, but it takes more than that to be a winner. Vick and Sanchez are showing that this year. Jets just took the lead and the win on the game winning drive. Vick, changed his approach to the game and had one of the best games a qb has ever had in the history of the NFL.

We may not be able to get these type of QBs but Oakland can still win in this league without them. Its been proven with baby manning winning with the Giants and the qb for the ravens in the early 00s. As long as you have a decent QB who can get the receiver the ball to make the play you have a chance. This team is there. The D is solid but the offense let everyone down today with the calls being way too one dimensional and not fitting against a team that is blitz heavy like Pitt.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

AGREE 100% !!!

Lot of young talent on this team. You’ve seen it multiple times last 2 seasons, so it’s THERE. There is also, however, no LEADER here. What we have are some damn good players that “show up” badassed every once in a while. Is it just weak coaching? Or is it just the lack of an actual “field general”? Honestly, do any of these guys even like each other personally? Do they even know each others 1st names? Does ANYONE want THEIR TEAM to win? Or is it all about padding personal stats to justify a pay raise or a trade? Remember Brady bitching out teammates last week? Yeah, he’s a dick, but, does anyone get bitched out at all by anyone in OAKLAND????? That is what we need, a BITCHER OUTTER who PERFORMS EVERY WEEK!

by mofackey on Nov 21, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

it was shit

no excuse

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah the whole team sucks....

Get ya facts right……

"The Wolf pack shall be on the prowl this season! Best to believe that"

by Suleku on Nov 21, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

this^

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Campbell would have taken the sack...

Neither one of these guys wins you the game when you put yourself in a hole this deep.

John
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by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

no stop flip flopping

you were just say he should be our starting QB

by Micheal Y on Nov 21, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

he shouldhe is better than campbell

learn to read

John
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by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

not that chance.

It was first down, not 4th down.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I know it was coming all the Bruce

so he couldn’t throw the ball away because he was in a bad situation

by Micheal Y on Nov 21, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

right cause that pick helped so muchh

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Bruce is more comfortable with the offense

which is why he;’s doing better than JC

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

doing better?

that was a shitty pick

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Goes back to the playcallin in the first half. Just horrible. I didnt see bush and Dmac in the backfield at the same time or even split out. WTF?! The offense let down the D today.
Even at 80% the D was putting a fight today. The O. is busy looking ahead to next week.
Cable, you moron, you let me down with this.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

+1

Play calling changed with Bruce

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

If bruce didn;t INT it

it would be a two score game.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought with Bruce we could comeback????@!?!??

wha????

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

that's the game.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

Honestly

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

by ctokes on Nov 21, 2010 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

starting JC when it counts=loss

They started him the last 3 games. lol

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Against KC, that was huge

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

We aren't as good as people started thinking...

We have beaten weaker teams, and some thought that meant we were really good; today is an eye-opener.

We don’t suck, but we aren’t anywhere near being a top team. We may still take the division, but that is faint praise right now…

Failure builds character; success reveals it

by signcut on Nov 21, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Keep in mind this IS in fact a top 3 team we are facing.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

We are good

but not top 5 good. Maybe not top 10, but we can make the wildcard.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

The coffin is closed. Good thing I called it in the first half.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

Looking a little bit better

But can we can see both the plus and minus of Gradkowski…?

Not ragging on him, but he isn’t the answer. Doesn’t look like Campbell is either, so don’t start….

Failure builds character; success reveals it

by signcut on Nov 21, 2010 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

Routt is fine

its CJ

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Bruce throws a pick and people say he is playing great and should start

oh god……..

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

1

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

a tipped 1

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I always said Grad was reckless.

Being reckless has many benefits, but can have drastic mistakes as well.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

it was a first down too. no need to throw it down field like that.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Let them fight for it in practice

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

no he didnt

it wasnt 4th down, could thrown it away and kept the ball

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

JC threw 2

one was called back on a penalty but it was right at the defender, they both are mediocre QBs nothing we can do about it right now just ride it out

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Because the D is missing scott, seymour and namdi. so they have to make do.
At this point in the game with the O playing like garbage even with Bruce in there, who shouldve just thrown it away, the D is gonna start to slip. Expect this to get worse with a full qtr to go.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

put McFadden @ QB lol

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

I didn't expect much out of this matchup

On the road, Pittsburgh remembering last year. No Nnamdi.

Hard for the Raiders to find a way to overcome all that.

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by Hit4TheCycle on Nov 21, 2010 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

no it looks like were back to the 2003-2007 years with this game plan and performance today.
This isnt the 2010 team.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

SCREEN????? WHA????

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

no, hes a sweetheart

hes forever blameless as well

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

MILLER DROPS ANOTHER ONE!!! LOL!

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

longest drive by Bruce

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

WTF

How can they be dropping all these easy passes

by ctokes on Nov 21, 2010 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

ryan clark is an idiot

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

Thank you for showing what EVERYONE IN THE NFL has said. DMAC can actually catch a damn ball! line him up in the slot already!

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:39 PM PST reply actions  

Clark you are a dumbass.

I f-ing hate you. All you do is want to destroy people with gigantic hits, but you really don’t do anything there.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:39 PM PST reply actions  

second time he tried...

get a “big” hit and f’n hurts himself

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

scott is injured, and seymour was ejected for punching Ben.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Seymour chin checked baby ben and got tossed out in the first half. Scott got hurt late in the second Qtr cause a wr didnt catch the ball and on the ensuing punt he got hurt.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Without a win today

Anyone expecting a blackout next Sunday?

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by Hit4TheCycle on Nov 21, 2010 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

Ill be there

But probably

John
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by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

idk

i say 60 40 on blackout

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

How come when the raiders are losing

You guys start attacking other raiders fans?
Calm down guys… we are all watching and talking. No one likes what is going on on the field today.
Some dude called me a “flip flopper” was i rooting for the steelers at one point? Get a grip guys… this team can still play well. Just cut JaCampbell and everything will feel ok at least… lol

John
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by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

Just cut JaCampbell and everything will feel ok at least… lol

sigh

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Thats why I called you a flip flopper

we need to get along when Bruce is at QB but JC you and the cult go for the other team

by Micheal Y on Nov 21, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

No

I just am of the opinion that our 3rd string is better than him. He is terrible.
You are pathetic if you think its a “cult” when others have a different opinion than yours.
You were trolling.

John
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by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

dropped pick

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

nice effort after a bye week.

best player on the raiders are the refs. they would be down by 63 points if not for the shit calls in the raiders favor

by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Nov 21, 2010 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

Palomalu

This guy was NOT in the pitt game last year.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

It doesnt matter if he was or wasnt. This offense has not stepped it up all game. The playcalling is atrocious and the Wrs havent helped either Qb by dropping almost all the passes. Only reliable guy is maybe DMAC, but the coaching staff doesnt bother to use him in the slot or lined up. With two good RBs they run a one dimensional offense.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

This is true.

We have made several mistakes today.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

more than several. Too many for a team coming off a bye week and a winning streak.
This is squarely on the coaching staff. All week i heard about our OCs familiarity and success with Baltimore when playing against Pitt. After seeing NE show the NFL how to beat Pitt. I havent seen one single similar scheme so far that shows me they were studying Tomlin’s defensive strategy. Yes they have a HOFer in Polamalu(somebody I was pulling for Al Davis to draft but he didnt) but they are known to blitz heavy. How do you beat a blitz heavy team, thats a whole nother paragraph. but it can be done.

now what am i left with. A performance befitting of a team that has taken a major step back to the 03-07 years. So much the game has been switched over to the Jets game now since it is more competitive. embarrassing. this is not how you respond to being in first place in november for the first time in years or playing a meaningful game vs a top tier team who honestly today has played very sloppy.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

they will be

1-8 off the bye week now.

And about NE’s scheme…. the Raiders and everyone else can write up those routes, but keep in mind, we have a pro bowl OL, nad the routes the pats use are VERY complex due to the skill set of our WRs(which are different from the raiders).

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

So then what about Pitts loss to Miami earlier this year?
They didnt look that ‘Dominant’ the way they did today, which in all honestly they weren’t today either. This was a one sided affair.
Oaklands D vs Pitts Offense and D. no help offensively or on special teams for that matter.

You can’t take the same approach to beat SD, Denver, KC and Seattle vs Pitt.
Its not going to work. The routes don’t have to be VERY complex. But by spreading out the D you limit the ability to bring a heavy blitz.
that reduces the amount of time the QB has and gives you a chance to make a play. This is something that Oakland hasnt done all year. You use it vs Pitt and they wont expect it since they havent seen it. Instead of lining up ford and murphy you can have murphy, reece, bush and DMAC spread with miller at TE. all better hands than ford, the smaller miller and jlh who is subpar.
Youre gonna tell me a team that doesnt run vs pitt last week is only able to beat them because of brady?
Far from it.
Vs a team that doesn’t allow the run, you are supposed to use the dump pass as a run. Oakland rarely went that way. Harrison on DMAC..please, that wont work with his speed and ability to catch thats a battle Id put money on DMAC winning.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

by complex, I mean diverse.

miami has hartline, bess, and marshall. 2 possession and QUICK and FAST WRs, and a top 5 WR.

The pats have WRs that can run various routes. The reason we are doing better without moss, is because the only route he really runs is strait. That’s it. Now we have receivers to run a variety of routes, and TEs that can run a variety of routes as well. It’s because of this, that our scheme works best with the WRs that we have.

It wouldn’t work with the raiders, because the players they have, don’t have AS vast a route tree as the pats WRs(if you need me to go more in depth, then ask).

We ran vs. pitt too. We were the first team to run over 75(we had like a 100 something) yards against them. Which goes to show you that our two TEs, who are EXTREMELY good blockers(Gronk and Crump), helped us out as well against Pitt.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 22, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

   As a Chiefs fan I can honestly say I predicted this. Its the Raiders. Well in other news, the Chiefs are beating Arizona. Have a good day boyz……heh heh heh

by Kblomfiee on Nov 21, 2010 12:41 PM PST reply actions  

Enjoy the smell of your own farts too

John
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by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

you are beating arizona, big deal. It's arizona, lol.

Pitt is a top 3 team, and I knew it would be very tough to beat them.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Congrats

You’re beating a terrible team, play the steelers and we’ll see how you do

by ctokes on Nov 21, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Well they wont

cuz there team plays easy teams

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

oh last year. when they were an 8-8 team?

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 22, 2010 6:35 PM PST up reply actions  

ur retarded

try winning against a good team

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

i honestly wasn't expecting a win..

but a loss wasn’t expecting a loss this bad

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:42 PM PST reply actions  

ill take that bet

if i lose I give you an ikea chair for your house

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Who the hell cares

There’s dozens of links online, just google it

by ctokes on Nov 21, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

What the hell is going on today tho?

way to ruin my day, but im not mad just disappointed

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

raiders waived the white flag.

im out too. gonna grab a 12er and wait for colt/pat game.

didnt really expect us to win. I already penciled pitt and colts as losses. gotta take care of business next week

by rat, el rat, mr. rat, the rat on Nov 21, 2010 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

game is still going

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

game is still going

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

One of the better run defenses in the NFL

Should be no surprise what happened today.

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by Hit4TheCycle on Nov 21, 2010 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

I expected to lose

But hoped to see better execution from the Raiders.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 21, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

im in Nor Cal :)

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

obviously lOL

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Well guys, I am leaving.

Not because I am giving up on the raiders or anything, but because I feel drained at the moment.

I hope the raiders learn from this win, and get better from it. This potential loss will benefit us in the long run.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Nov 21, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

wtf why would you turn off the game

obviously if people are watching the game on tv thats the one they want to see

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

we

need some playmakers at WR’s I will give miller his because you are due a bad game but Murphy,DHB, and the rest of WR’s all should not be starting

by Micheal Y on Nov 21, 2010 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

Murphy is goo. We need ford to make plays and zach miller.

DHB should be benched and put mcFadden out at slot or something.

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I blame Dan Fouts

Was broadcasting the Raiders Titans game now this game.

The man is bad juju.

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by Hit4TheCycle on Nov 21, 2010 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

i just want a touchdown

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:51 PM PST reply actions  

did anyone else notice...

the vodka in the background of this thread. or is it just on my screen LOL

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

dnt click it

ttake u to facebook

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

bruce goes down

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

WIN OR LOSE

GO RAIDERS!
Don’t take yourself so serious guys…

Hopefully next time i’m on a gameday thread there will be less negative energy towards fellow fans who want the same thing as you in the end.
I’ll see yall at the game next week.
Thanks for the chat fellow Nation members… PEACE OUT

John
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by Ionnes on Nov 21, 2010 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

O lonnes

Don't Trade Monta
Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw

by JohnnyDangerously on Nov 21, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

We got spoiled by a 3 game win streak.

8&8 was wishful thinking last year, don’t forget. 8&8 can still happen.

by mofackey on Nov 25, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

well that was a bad pass

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

wow murphy

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

yes! harrisons down! lol

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 12:55 PM PST reply actions  

+11111

Something to cheer about finally!!!

by darooster on Nov 21, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

At least UC Davis beat Sac State in the 57th Causeway Classic

Plenty of wind, rain, hail, lightning and thunder.

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by Hit4TheCycle on Nov 21, 2010 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

There shouldn't be any QB nothing in Oakland

Hands down we need to Fire our WR’s Coach and get someone that knows what to do. need a WR’s that demands double coverage we should have went after Marshall

by Micheal Y on Nov 21, 2010 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

Good question.

The decision to suspend him or not will be a telling decision for the league. It will show the degree of the discipline they are enforcing now.
It will also set a bar for how much they will protect the QB’s.
AND It will also show how much they love Ben and how much they (dont) respect the Raiders.

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Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw

by JohnnyDangerously on Nov 21, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Considering that I'm a Raider fan and I'd suspend him for that ...

I gotta think that a suspension will be forthcoming from Goodell.

You just can’t let guys get away with that kinda shit w/o hitting them w/something stronger than a fine.

If he doesn’t get suspended, it’s just cause it’s Richard Seymour and the level of respect he’s earned. If it was like Tommy Kelly, or most anyone else on our team, he’d FOR SURE be suspended.

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 21, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

They're keeping Roth in with a huge lead and little time left.

Make them pay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

Now they throw deep.

You’d think that these guys on D would take that personally and kick someone’s ass. This team has been soooo disappointing today.

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Seymour do us a favor

Punch Cable in the face and tell him to get the team ready next week and from here on out.
This is not the kind of game a team headed in the right direction plays. Sure most predicted a loss, but this way. NO. This is not a dominating performance by Pitt. They were sloppy all game. This is a team on offense at full strength. IE no excuses.
The game plan was horrible and the execution was even worse. Even the useless attempt to spark a fire with Grad being put in wasn’t enough. But strangely some of the plays he ran were not the ones JC ran in the first half.

How bout taking advantage of the dual RB threat of Bush and DMAC for once and have them on the field at the same time. Or what about Reece lined up in the slot too since our WR core is full of morons who cant catch. Keep running yes, but throw the entire playbook at them from here on out. Once you get predictable, you see a team go off on the O line like Pitt did today. I understand you cant block everyone, but the way they played looked like they didnt know PItt would blitz. I know this, everyone here knows this, the NFL Network knows this. Tom Brady knows this. Manning knows this. Even people who watch football once a year know Pitt is a team that likes to blitz.

EVERY TEAM has a weakness. Expose it and burn them for the W. I predict a PItt loss next week. They are not that great. NE showed this last week, which is why Im so disgusted by this weeks game. Im glad they went to the jets game cause I had enough watching the first 3 qtrs.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 1:02 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Turnover

Groves recovers. This will turn the game around ;-).

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 21, 2010 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

Im ready for the next game

I new this would be a hard game. Im still a raiders fan. And im kinda happy someone punched Ben n the face lol

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

You better be ready for the Dolphins

 cause if you lose the Chiefs will be 2 games up in the WEST………..YEAH!

by Kblomfiee on Nov 21, 2010 1:03 PM PST reply actions  

Your mom is making kool-aid upstairs

Get off the computer and get out of the basement.

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, we are totally ready for Thighpen.

Hopefully Bruce starts… because the Doll D line is somewhat similar to the Pitt D-line. Wake is pretty good, Quentin Moses can get to the QB… etc..

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 21, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

o_o...I wasn't able to watch the game from before..

so can somebody tell me WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED???

In Bruce We Trust

by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Nov 21, 2010 1:07 PM PST reply actions  

We sucked

Not much of a game plan and poor execution by both O and D. No one should escape blame for this.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 21, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Not only should they not escape blame

they should be not paid for that game…and also water boarded…to much?

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya

Don't Trade Monta
Bush is on Fire!
Huff likes it raw

by JohnnyDangerously on Nov 21, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a good summation.

I was particularly pissed off by the lack of anger (controlled aggression) in the second half. Pushed around all game, the Steelers kept the rapist in all game we were so weak, we couldn’t even make them pay for that afront.

Don't shoot, I'm a man.

by Rusty23 on Nov 21, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The lesson of this game

Is don’t go play good teams on the road ;-). We have a tough schedule in the second half. Have to win out against the West and beat Miami and Jacksonville. I said before the season started that I would be happy with 8-8—and I still will. We got a lot of press lately, but we still have a ways to go.

@WorldBLee

by worldblee on Nov 21, 2010 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

Wake Up Call.

How many 3 and outs?

In Bruce We Trust

by NFLanalyzerfromhome on Nov 21, 2010 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

well im done with this game.

see ya’ll next week

Nnamdi Asomugha for 2010 Pro Bowl!!!

by Jagjivan on Nov 21, 2010 1:18 PM PST reply actions  

35-3

Yeeeeaaaaahhhhhhh sonnnnnn!

"Character, not circumstances, makes the man." - Booker T. Washington

by umadbro? on Nov 21, 2010 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

Good Win for you guys

But im still gonna have to ask you to go fuck your self

by Ctb3 on Nov 21, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Well ... that was fucking pathetic in every aspect.

Like I said upthread, offense I expected to struggle, but I expected more out of our defense.

Play calling was uncreative. O-Line played terrible. Receiving corp was terrible, couldn’t catch, couldn’t separate themselves. D-Line was only slightly better, they got a a bit of pressure but not nearly enough. Secondary and linebackers did not cover well, didn’t fill gaps … need I go on?

We were supposed to exploit them with the slants and short balls, instead they did it to us.

I think ZM dropped more balls in this game than he has in his whole career. Not many of them were especially important big/catches, but … awful comeback for Zach. I’d have way rather had Nnamdi for this game.

What really killed us utterly though was the turnovers, and not being able to get to Ben nearly enough, despite their greatly weaken line.

Obviously it’s hard to say with any certainty, but I still think starting Grads would’ve given us a better chance to win that game, but I don’t think we could’ve beat ’em no matter what today.

So, bottom-line as it now stands, we’re middle-of-the-pack team. We obviously aren’t an elite team yet, and can’t figure out how to win on the Road (except in Denver). But that was our toughest remaining game (with Indy being so banged up I think they’re beatable), so I’m not going to lose hope on this season over this one game. We’re one game behind KC, and probably will be tied with SD at the end of the weekend. Anything can happen from here out, we’re still in a strong position in our Division w/our 3-0 record.

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 21, 2010 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

I agree, terrible game overal

Good thing is, its just one game

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one remembers anything else." -John Madden

by I Bleed Silver and Black on Nov 21, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Grad mightve given them a chance to win, by extending the play, but like you said, the play calling was garbage from the get go. That is not how you attack a strong D like PItt.
The D was holding its ground for the most part, but like you said, I don’t know why many people were preferring ZM or NA playing. I would’ve given NA for another week or two of no ZM. Not that I don’t want him, but Namdi is clearly more important than Miller.

Whats more frustrating is that this team has the firepower to beat this so called “elite” team in Pitt. The play calling was what ruined it, followed by the amateur WR performance out there. Yes there was some bad throws but there were plenty of catch able ones too.

losing 3 defensive starters, im not surprised the score blew up. but even in the second half it was good to see several defensive stops despite the lopsided score.

by SilvrnBlck forever on Nov 21, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

At the end...

Why did the Steelers not end it my taking knees? Why go for the TD with 1:30 something left? I would’ve totally called Mitchell over and told him to just Missile Roth in the face area while launching with all his might. Fuck that bitch Tomlin.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 21, 2010 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

That “bitch” Tomlin just fucked your Raiders in the ass.

"Character, not circumstances, makes the man." - Booker T. Washington

by umadbro? on Nov 21, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL, I somehow see us playing again... let's just say an ass fucking will happen but this time not to us, but at an even bigger stage.

Playoffs. We won’t forget. Plus, who is overall fucking who? We are. We lead the win column against the Sqeelers All-tim baby.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 21, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

You think the Raiders are going to the playoffs? Lol. The Steelers, maybe, but the Raiders? No. Also, since you like bringing up the past, I’d like to mention the Steelers’ six Super Bowl championships.

"Character, not circumstances, makes the man." - Booker T. Washington

by umadbro? on Nov 21, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I really wish that Gradz had thrown a TD instead of a pick on his first series...

At that point it’d have 21-10 with plenty of time left. That one play effectively ended the game for us. Terrible decision after what was a promising first series for him. Not the we deserved to win by any stretch, nor was it likely we could have, but … that was a big missed opportunity to get back into this game.

Also, did anyone else notice the blatant friggin holding on Roth’s TD run. A couple of our d-line men got friggin tackled, and there was no call. That pissed me off.

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 21, 2010 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

well at least i got my leg room back on the band wagon...

FML… i fucken hate the steelers. those damn colors are like the total opposite of the what it is to be in the silver and black… fuck fuck fuck… i swear on my life that we were gonna put up a fight, instead it looked like the 2009 raiders out there

"There comes a point an a mans life, he has to step up… I dont care what kind of man you are!!! there come’s a point where he has to fight!!! He has to has that in ’em! He gotta have that in ’em… Lets go, LETS GO!!! FIGHT on 3… 1-2-3- FIGHT!!!! -Richard Seymour

by gogomaplata on Nov 21, 2010 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

Trevor Scott Torn ACL.

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 2:30 PM PST reply actions  

We dont have Lee

So it will get ugly fast

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw me some Lin... he's good. He's way better than Curry, he should start.....

But seriously… he played good. He should see more time. At least this big win got my hopes up. We crushed you!!!

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 21, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, that's fricking great ...

That sucks. ACL this late in the season, gotta think he’s off to the IR.

Fuck this game sucked. Wouldn’t be surprised to lose Seymour for a game or two here for his friggin idiocy too.

At least DL is a place we have a bit of depth, but still … losing Trevor and probably Seymour for a bit here … the fallout from this game just sucks.

At least we have a greatly weakened Miami coming to town this week. OTOH, if we find a way to lose to Thigpen and Miami at home, I have to say our season is going to feel awfully close to being over at that point.

I’ve been saying it for years now … we need a third down possession guy ala Timmy Brown or Wes Welker … badly. And a really big strong badass like Fitzgerald or Andre Carter to go along with him.

Our WR corp is just not even close to elite NFL standards. Murphy is good enough to be your third guy, Ford is worth keeping cause he’s a rookie, but … I think we need to cut our losses with DHB, JLH, and Chaz, and go after a couple stud WR’s. Badly.

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 21, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

 I would not get rid of DHB after 2 seasons. Chaz is another story. What we need to do is bring in a veteran WR to be a mentor to our young WRs(DHB, Murphy, Ford), but who’s gonna be available to us that isn’t a cancer to corrupt and break down this team? And will it matter if there is no NFL season due to a lockout?

by Walker Wallace on Nov 21, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

 as Bill Parcells has said "if u have 2 quarterbacks then u don’t have any

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Nov 21, 2010 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

im still proud of the team

wearing my raiders hat right now

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by Czheck on Nov 21, 2010 3:03 PM PST reply actions  

Horrible game

Blame goes to the O for not controlling the clock early. The D got stuck out too long and ended up giving up points at the end of the first half. Most important things coming out of the game: injuries and whether or not Seymour gets suspended. Since he has a clean record alongside Rapelisburger’s questionable one, I would say no on the suspension.

5-5 and 3-0 in the division after 10 games? Compared to the last 8 years, I’ll take it. It could be worse… we could be the Bengals.

by The McMafia on Nov 21, 2010 3:12 PM PST reply actions  

Oh well at least the Chiefs won today....hahahaha

Really, I’m just poking a little fun after the ass whooping we took last week. The next win will take the sting out. As much as I dislike the raiders, I still hope for them to be good so our rivalry remains relevant. I look forward to seeing the silver and black in Arrowhead in a few weeks and sending them home with a loss. Hopefully not in OT like it was when the chiefs came to oakland. Good luck in MIA next week. Hopefully the coaches don’t forget that Thigpen beat the raiders back in ’08 with the Chiefs.

by Chiefsfan6242 on Nov 21, 2010 3:35 PM PST reply actions  

Screw you and HAHA to all you congratulating Seymour for his cheap shot.

GG to the rest.

Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Every night at the club the girls screamed when he'd come
He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
And everybody knew you didn't go to the bathroom alone around Big Ben
(Big Ben Big Ben) Big Fat Ben (Big Ben)
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"Salt in the wound’s going to be Steelers coming to Jerry’s palace to win yet another SB" - Random Cowboy fan on BTB

by svenhoek on Nov 21, 2010 5:05 PM PST reply actions  

cheap shot? Did he hit him in the nuts? in the back?

So if some dude comes at you, and punches you straght in the face… it’s a cheap shot? Plus it wasn’t even a punch, and did you see how he flew? LMAO
Slapped, that’s for the rape charges biatch! Go back to the mines, go on git, git dirty.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 21, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

We beat you 35-3.

Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Every night at the club the girls screamed when he'd come
He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
And everybody knew you didn't go to the bathroom alone around Big Ben
(Big Ben Big Ben) Big Fat Ben (Big Ben)
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"Salt in the wound’s going to be Steelers coming to Jerry’s palace to win yet another SB" - Random Cowboy fan on BTB

by svenhoek on Nov 21, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

And when someone is walking past you, not paying attention to you at all, and you punch them....

It’s cheap.

Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Every night at the club the girls screamed when he'd come
He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
And everybody knew you didn't go to the bathroom alone around Big Ben
(Big Ben Big Ben) Big Fat Ben (Big Ben)
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"Salt in the wound’s going to be Steelers coming to Jerry’s palace to win yet another SB" - Random Cowboy fan on BTB

by svenhoek on Nov 21, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes because that matters.

That’s a wonderful trophy you have for all those wins.

We got six for ours.

Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Every night at the club the girls screamed when he'd come
He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
And everybody knew you didn't go to the bathroom alone around Big Ben
(Big Ben Big Ben) Big Fat Ben (Big Ben)
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"Salt in the wound’s going to be Steelers coming to Jerry’s palace to win yet another SB" - Random Cowboy fan on BTB

by svenhoek on Nov 21, 2010 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

cheap shot i dont think so

fool was jumping around like he was somebody, and got hammered. keep your distance or you just might get fucked up

by 414 RAIDER FREAK on Nov 21, 2010 5:10 PM PST reply actions  

Over the internet?

Unlikely.

Hey guess what, 35-3.

Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Every night at the club the girls screamed when he'd come
He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
And everybody knew you didn't go to the bathroom alone around Big Ben
(Big Ben Big Ben) Big Fat Ben (Big Ben)
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"Salt in the wound’s going to be Steelers coming to Jerry’s palace to win yet another SB" - Random Cowboy fan on BTB

by svenhoek on Nov 21, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahh I see.

In that case, Ben was clearly walking PAST Seymour to celebrate a TD with his teammates. I don’t anyone should apologize for being happy for a TD at home.

Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Every night at the club the girls screamed when he'd come
He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
And everybody knew you didn't go to the bathroom alone around Big Ben
(Big Ben Big Ben) Big Fat Ben (Big Ben)
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"Salt in the wound’s going to be Steelers coming to Jerry’s palace to win yet another SB" - Random Cowboy fan on BTB

by svenhoek on Nov 21, 2010 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Fucked up? Like the Raiders got fucked up today? Lol.

"Character, not circumstances, makes the man." - Booker T. Washington

by umadbro? on Nov 21, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they mad bro.

Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Every night at the club the girls screamed when he'd come
He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
And everybody knew you didn't go to the bathroom alone around Big Ben
(Big Ben Big Ben) Big Fat Ben (Big Ben)
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"Salt in the wound’s going to be Steelers coming to Jerry’s palace to win yet another SB" - Random Cowboy fan on BTB

by svenhoek on Nov 21, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

A fluke? Sure. Glad you played Jason Campbell huh?

With Namdi, those long TD’s would have never happened. You just got lucky man.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Nov 21, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

35-3 is not luck.

But whatever helps you sleep at night.

You got dominated dude. We had more yards in penalties against us then you did total.

Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Every night at the club the girls screamed when he'd come
He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
And everybody knew you didn't go to the bathroom alone around Big Ben
(Big Ben Big Ben) Big Fat Ben (Big Ben)
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"Salt in the wound’s going to be Steelers coming to Jerry’s palace to win yet another SB" - Random Cowboy fan on BTB

by svenhoek on Nov 21, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Good comeback.

But we beat enough real teams already this season for me to not be worried by two losses to two Super Bowl teams who had been embarrassed the week before by the Browns. Oh and one was a short week too. Shit happens, we made a statement today. I’d rather lose two to the Saints and Pats then lose one game against a team like the Raiders.

Bungles Tank Stupidly like Clockwork
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Every night at the club the girls screamed when he'd come
He stood six foot five and weighed 241
Kinda meaty in the face with a head full of stone
And everybody knew you didn't go to the bathroom alone around Big Ben
(Big Ben Big Ben) Big Fat Ben (Big Ben)
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"Salt in the wound’s going to be Steelers coming to Jerry’s palace to win yet another SB" - Random Cowboy fan on BTB

by svenhoek on Nov 21, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

sven Rec'd

It was embarrassing to lose to them. The Raiders hahaha

by Kblomfiee on Nov 21, 2010 7:02 PM PST reply actions  

geez whats with Chiefs fans coming in here laughing

are you kidding me?…you guys beat the Cards…i didn’t expect the Raiders to win this game especially with the Steelers coming off a blow out loss at home…we walked into a buzz saw today…i knew the Chiefs would be back in first after today but enjoy it while you can…next week we are going to be tied with you again.

LETS GO RED WINGS!

2011 will be the year....better be....

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by TuLoRocks2008 on Nov 21, 2010 7:38 PM PST reply actions  

Not standing on the ledge yet

It was a real beating today, no doubt… but the Steelers are a really good team and sometimes it just doesn’t go your way. They match up really well against the Raider personnel – the broadcast said they were 3rd best historically stopping the run through 9 games? The team’s strength is in running the ball, controlling the clock so the defense doesn’t get tired, and occasionally taking deep shots; if someone can stop the run and rush the passer then the deep game isn’t going to work out well.

But, just for giggles, here’s a list of excuses that would make a difference but probably wouldn’t have added up to enough:

  • 10 AM start times are bad (see @Tennessee as well). Two more 10 AM games, vs. the Chiefs & Jags.
  • The team might be a little flat when given extra time to prepare? I know Cable stated that was a problem for the opener; maybe it happened here as well
  • I believe Campbell’s the better overall QB, but he’s horrible when he doesn’t have good protection; he gets shell-shocked and then can’t complete simple throws. I’d much prefer Gradkowski if pressure will be an issue and the team can’t establish the run.
  • Similarly, I would’ve liked to see more Michael Bush; the Steelers are really good at stopping speed runners and I think pounding the ball with Bush a little would have loosened the pressure a little. DMC is great but I don’t think he can wear down defenses as much, and since the Steelers are going to be around the ball I’d prefer to see someone who can break tackles better.
  • As much as I dislike Big Ben, he was totally on today. His throws were into tiny windows and the Steeler receivers made the plays. If he was even a little off I think those are potential interceptions – there were plenty of times where the DB was in position but the ball was rocketed in right on target.
  • WRs were bad; a lot of balls going off hands. Granted Murphy was rusty and Zach isn’t healthy but the Steelers were making the same plays.

Anyways… long post is long. All said, Miami should be a much better matchup, and only one game back.

by peetah on Nov 21, 2010 7:52 PM PST reply actions  

I'm almost on the ledge myself ...

Figuratively speaking, of course :)

I agree w/every point you made. I was also thinking prior to the game that given Bush the carries in the beginning might make the most sense.

Unfortunately, in reality we are literally one play away (Jacoby’s miracle grab to send it to OT) from being 4-6, with the Chefs at 7-3 with a victory over us, with only 6 games left to play. IOW, our season would be depressingly OVER right now, for yet another season, if it weren’t for that one play.

So I’m really glad it happened because it kept us in the hunt and has me stilling caring about the season after 10 games, and it’s been a while since that happened.

But bottom-line, we still don’t have a good enough offense to make the playoffs. We’re really looking at having played crappy offense for 7 of the past 8 quarters, and having scored but one offensive TD during that span. That sure looks an awful lot like same Raider productivity that we’ve ‘enjoyed’ the past 7 seasons.

To me the bright spot is the D, for sure playing better ball, but when you get down to it, our defense has usually been pretty decent over the past 7 years IF the O was getting something going in the game, so … even this bright spot is really not all that much brighter than the past. But the D is definitely improved, so … that’s a positive.

We desperately need an elite or nearly-elite QB, and at least one more really good WR. We need a Fitz, or one of the Johnsons, or an Ochocinco type of guy.

It’s really depressing to me to think about all the good young talent at QB that’s come into the league since 2002, and all the high draft picks we’ve gotten, and we blown our chances on busts like Andrew Walter and the Fat Man.

by Brett J Valjalo on Nov 22, 2010 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

All true

About the good breaks, it’s true. Sometimes the ball bounces your way, sometimes it doesn’t – with all of the bad breaks and bad calls over the past 7 years, it feels like this year the luck might be turning the other way. Especially since NE has the #1 pick, better this year than any other :) But yep, totally agree with you – I would say this year they’re fighting harder and have looked closer than any other year. The losses against Arizona & SF were games they should’ve won, but given the recent history, the fact that I can say “The Raiders should have won that game” is already an improvement.

Totally agree on the offense & defense. It is nice that the offense can hold the ball a little bit to rest the D; the defense has been good but gets tired very easily – I’m not sure if all defenses are like that or if the conditioning just isn’t great, but watching fewer 3-and-outs is nice.

Also, given how long it took Nnamdi/Huff/McFadden to develop, I think the “really good WR” might actually be one of the guys already there, but unfortunately may not before next year.

by peetah on Nov 22, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

chiefs on top

This is the time of the year for teams to be rising .not dropping.. too bad,Silver and black and Blue…

by chiefs4ev on Nov 22, 2010 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

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